Banned From Singleplayer? - Minecraft Java's DARK FUTURE...

[@TheMisterEpic]

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[@Dorize]

I'm a great fan

[@o0thesage]

ZAMN, darker than the combat update

[@coachninalawn5991]

Doggo pfp vs doggo pfp

[@drakemeetze5744]

Thanks for letting me know about this themisterepic I'll be sure to be careful now on

[@justshitmyself]

giant fat nuts

[@paulitics6931]

Just wait for these false bans to hit youtubers and see the backlash. Also not cancelling people's realms submissions is downright dirty.

[@viedralavinova8266]

It's not only downright dirty, it's also a felony.

[@boonkiatong282]

Yea let see how much longer minecraft has left with such detiorating management

[@AlOstosman]

And even if they remove it(which lets be real it Most likely wont even happen) they'll re-add it once the backlash dies down

[@Wildteen354]

I feel as soon as this update comes out hundreds of thousands of false reports for big content creators will rush in from trolls and hater and that within the first month of the update most if not all somewhat popular Minecraft KZbinrs will be banned by trolls

[@neosurai3925]

My friend historical Berlin nazi Germany realm is doomed because the easily offended don’t understand history

[@Tigerwolf102onYoutube]

I love how when a company does something the community hates, the community is quick to try a workaround. EA stopped support for BF2 so modders went crazy trying to make the game feel new. KZbin removed dislikes and within the same day, an extension was released for your browser that shows the dislikes. Minecraft adds the ability to censor and report chat, the community makes a mod that disables that. It’s pretty funny.

[@DesolateLavender]

When dumbass people who are somehow in charge make a stupid decision, people with some common sense do the only sensible thing. Reversing it to the best of their ability. This applies to a lot of things.

[@creditcrazy597]

yet at the same time they might be thinking if we break it the community will fix it for us so why listen

[@link_team3855]

wait theres an extention to show dislikes? huh. i need to go find that.

[@Tigerwolf102onYoutube]

@@link_team3855 I believe it's called "return the youtube dislike button". I use it and it's great.

[@namelesskat4814]

@TheAnimatedEverything I bet you're in the group of people that celebrated BFN's support stopping and thought they would go back to developing GW2 lol

[@Heckleb0t]

My biggest gripe is that owners no longer have the control over the moderation of their own servers. I find it annoying and intrusive more than helpful.

[@RomshaAwasthiA]

I agree. WE, the community pays to setup servers. So it should be our rules and our regulations on the server. Microsoft shouldn't interfere into moderation of servers that we host and we pay for from our pockets. If Microsoft doesn't remove it, I believe there will be bad consequences of this action.

[@anakinlowground5515]

java servers have a solution: mods. Mods can fix every problem this game has.

[@ArmageddonEvil]

@@anakinlowground5515 Microsoft is creating a problem by seeing everything is Toxic, by creating an Oppressive system that needs mods to bypass it. lol Methinks, someone should tell Microsoft and every other company to think about what they are doing and not what they need to do. Since this would *kill* Gaming as we know it if these are implemented.

[@iSuckAtGamesGG]

yeah so if u have a slightly more edgy server u can kiss that shit goodbye lol, and if this is going to java than 2b2t is in trouble

[@yakovliam]

I have some great ideas how to get around this on Java servers with plugins.

[@kandd2591]

“Highly trained moderation staff” is just a fancy way of saying robot

[@SvengelskaBlondie]

Might as well be a chimp that just randomly bashes buttons, not lik there's any difference between them and the standard reddit moderator 🤣

[@narrativeless404]

Or just a few if statements

[@CambellsCondensedSoup]

@narrativeless8095 i bet they ran this in python 💀 import minecraft def ban(player, reason): minecraft.ban(player) print('you were banned.') print('reason:',reason) if message == 'hello': ban(player, 'banned lol')

[@narrativeless404]

@@CambellsCondensedSoup Not exactly like that But yeah, you got the idea right 🤣 👍

[@CambellsCondensedSoup]

no, i think its exactly like that

[@capacity3620]

As a long time bedrock player, I’m really glad someone pointed out how outright stupid singleplayer censorship is. I had heard about this reporting system coming to Java due to Bedrock edition also having similar features. In-fact, the singleplayer filter used to be so strict that if you were to try and type the word “Night” in chat, on signs, or even when you were simply *re-naming an item* ,it would be filtered do to the beginning of the word having the letters “nig” which was too similar to the N-word. It was absolutely ridiculous.

[@InventorZahran]

The Scunthorpe Problem at its worst...

[@bazzybfg]

i believe at some point you couldn't type compass because of the last 3 letters and it was a pain for me

[@MysticianLuna_VG]

Me too! I am also a long time Bedrock Minecrafter!

[@hypedhurricane212]

yea same here

[@HeyoNight]

oh no... :(

[@MJRSoap]

Fun Fact: Banning you from even single player is a violation of any 'inperpeturity' lines in the EULA. However, after reading through the current EULA, they removed any line saying you own your copy of the game In Perpetuity. "...when you pay for our Game, you are buying a license to play / use our Game in accordance with this Agreement - you are not buying the Game itself." This is a 'service' license. You don't own the fucking game anymore even if you bought it back in Alpha where you bought the game itself... I can't find the original 'legacy' EULA I agreed too back in late 2009, so I can't compare it to the modern one where you don't even own the license anymore. Feels like it's a violation of consumer trust laws.

[@sirspongadoodle]

it really pisses me off.. i havent even migrated, im not letting microsoft get away with this.

[@QahnaarinDovah]

We need to find that legacy EULA. It’s our legal defense. I agreed to that like 10 years ago. I OWN Minecraft. I’m not renting it.

[@biotoxibility3437]

@@memorymanagement5741 thats why adobe is pirated and im sure people will manage to find a way to pirate minecraft too

[@inaan]

@@biotoxibility3437 isn't that basically using cracked clients like tlauncher? I suppose that it'll just become more mainstream soon

[@VioletWyvern]

Remember this: "The laws didn't protect good peoples, It only protect the persons who understand it..."

[@talkashie]

Restricting someone's access to an offline product that they purchased should be entirely illegal. I genuinely hope this blows up into a class-action lawsuit, not just for Minecraft, but to set a precedent that this isn't acceptable.

[@friendcomputer5276]

I'm suprised that them forcing you to migrate to a Microsoft account or loose the ability to play the game didn't already lead to a lawsuit!

[@oneup117gaming4]

I'm legitimately surprised Microsoft at all hasn't gone bankrupt, they are an incredibly shitty company and the only reason they are thriving is because Windows is so stupidly easily accessible.

[@LordMaliscence]

Restricting someone's access to an online product they purchased should also be entirely illegal.

[@squaeman_2644]

Not to mention I purchased it 10 years ago when Microsoft wasn't run by people who get wet dreams about censorship

[@MJRSoap]

This line 'when you pay for our Game, you are buying a license to play / use our Game in accordance with this Agreement - you are not buying the Game itself.' in the EULA protects them despite it being a violation of various case's where purchasing a game should be in perpetuity, the owners of the IP can't prevent you from accessing the offline content.

[@TheDendran]

Minecraft: "We implement chat moderation now. Behave or get banned for life." Modders: "Hand us the scalpel, nurse, we need to cut out this tumorous growth that has spawned here!"

[@aleksandarlazarov9182]

MS forgot greefing is a thing and that modders exist. I am very thankful the latter geniuses exist to save us!

[@topminator2991]

@@aleksandarlazarov9182 they didn't, they just don't care about modders. moderation is about giving you a "safe environment" when using the unmodified game as is. when you mod the game it becomes none of the owner's business

[@graycatsaderow]

Behave or get ban banned

[@MaoRatto]

@@graycatsaderow No? Some players want a modded chaotic experience. Anarchy servers aren't for everyone and that's okay. Edgy minecraft and one that is much more liberal was good. I quit multiplayer due to this update.

[@graycatsaderow]

@@MaoRatto that was a joke

[@NovemberOrWhatever]

One of the things that Linus (Mr. Tech Tips) talks about with piracy is that when the pirated version is better than the legal version, a lot more people start pirating. If a game has annoying DRM, pirating gives you a better game. Too much of this from Microsoft may lead to that condition. Xbox has enough DRM to where it's a pain to pirate, but pirating is really easy on desktop

[@Darth_Insidious]

I foresee a future where server owners disable account verification so that people can actually play on their server. This opens the door to further piracy of the game.

[@rudrasingh6354]

Yes. Gaben (Valve) also talked about this. Piracy is a convenience problem. Make it convenient for the user to be buy and use legally and you reduce piracy by a lot, make it hell for paid users and you get piracy. Some games have DRMs that reduce performance because they have heavy processes, pirated users get a better experience Get banned from mojang auth servers for chatting on minecraft and get treated like a pirated player? Why pay in the first place and just pirate from the start

[@tiki2tgt]

im pretty sure cracked servers will blow up if this ever gets implemented

[@MrDannyloco]

@@tiki2tgt they already are pretty big because theres a lot of free players, and its the only other populated option besides the monopoly that is hypixel 🤢

[@tiki2tgt]

@@MrDannyloco i know, but im saying itll blow up more, and become more mainstream

[@The_Horizon]

bruh if anything, this just encourages people to use stolen accounts or just use a cracked launcher or whatever.

[@ketch10]

yes thats why im now using cracked

[@sweetgirl0]

I'm glad I didn't buy Minecraft at the first place

[@ArtisChronicles]

@@sweetgirl0 nah, I'm glad I support it while Notch was still there. I'm not so happy with where things ended up. It was ok for a while after the Microsoft acquisition, but it's definitely gotten worse.

[@Akotski-ys9rr]

Yeah exactly if I was banned I’m not buying another account. I’m playing on a cracked launcher

[@lunarinsomnia4688]

Love your videos Horizon. Maybe you should lag out an official Microsoft realm/server lol

[@KaptainKommissar]

the fact that there's even a multiplayer-ban system being implimented in java terrifies me I'll probably never log into a public minecraft server ever again if this is the risk

[@lizardidwat]

Same. I was excited to log into Hypixel when I got Java last year, I haven't had the initiative to do it until recently. Because of this video, I'm kinda hesitant to even log into private multiplayer servers with my close friends.

[@TheBluePhoenix008]

Ladies and gentlemen, this is why you pirate

[@HuzuniIsBad]

@@TheBluePhoenix008 LMFAO

[@ChristopherGray00]

@@TheBluePhoenix008 the sad thing is that pirate servers are now essentially better than the official paid product.... which is mind blowing.

[@aerofur]

Imagine being banned from all of GMod because you and your friends in a private lobby said racial slurs in chat.

[@CharlZEdits]

This Mega corp behavior is unacceptable if they prevent me from playing on my own server for messages on my own server I'm just gonna get a "Free version" of the game. But wait it's not legal to steal from the rich but they can steal from you. Well in some way Minecraft is reflecting what is going on in this world and the trends that are happening. Just gonna love this century

[@wabbit4936]

Argh matey! Time for ye to start sailing the seven seas!

[@Eli-gn5zn]

"Piracy is always legal if the company does stuff that isn't."

[@for4269]

@@Eli-gn5zn You ever heard of Omocat?

[@Otome_chan311]

Yup. I pirated Minecraft in the past. I'm not above pirating it again if they try to dictate what I can do with my own computer hardware and server.

[@Otome_chan311]

It's not stealing if I've already purchased it.

[@thecatofnyan]

Remember: Whenever a game says the sentence: "Safe environment", it's never a good sign. ROBLOX has ruined itself already. Now it might be Minecraft's turn.

[@Tom_Cruise_Missile]

The shit you can say on roblox was hilarious. The filters were so beyond broken.

[@PlzDoNotTheFade]

@@Tom_Cruise_Missile the worst is that sometimes it Just doesn't even filter swearwords 💀

[@DominikPac-Boy]

Yeah I ##########

[@nether1397]

its slightly good now discord used to be cencored. now its back you have to type Discord not discord

[@Tom_Cruise_Missile]

@@gorts_brothers_brother1072 plus the name filter was even worse. I got had a couple of alts with obvious profanity, three nsmed after members of Nazi high command (no changes needed just typed it in), and some questionable statements about the jews. At least a year in and none were deleted, although that was a while ago so I'm not sure now.

[@superking100]

As a Bedrock player, I have seen myself shadow muted and many of my friends shadow muted to the point where they gave up chatting in minecraft entirely. Absolutely hate that this type of thing is not only not going away, but is going to java as well.

[@AnEnderNon]

lets hope Hytale comes out soon xd

[@solarstrike33]

@@AnEnderNon I wouldn't give your hopes up. Remember Temtem and how it was supposed to be a "Pokémon killer"? Yeah, I don't either.

[@p4tchPL]

Oh boy I wish we had Notch.

[@salasyk8708]

@@p4tchPL nah. If Minecraft was still owned by notch we wouldn't have had these big updates. Fr though if notch was still the owner, he would never implement these rules. He stands for free speech. Love that doofus idc if people cry over the controversial things he said but he's ain't said anything too bad. Some of his opinions are opinions like 90% of the world have so I don't see the issue it's mostly sensitive white Twitter users who grew up privileged in America or UK and without real life problems that cry about what he's said and find it so offensive. He created Minecraft man I ain't ever forgetting that.

[@davidarvingumazon5024]

Ban Dream = More Chaos

[@k_nape]

Also, if the report system doesn't care about what language you are talking, there would be a lot of false ban For exemple "con" is a normal word in english, but a swear word in French, the r-word is also a word meaning "late" in french If the moderation team ban player, who used those normal word in their language, because it is a swear word in another, then it's another problem

[@brondlini5459]

I'd die laughing if a japanese person said "escape" in japanese and got banned for racial slurs.

[@nima7632]

If you're korean don't say "you" and if you're Spanish, don't say "black".

[@arthurduete5304]

In my country we laugh using "kkk", imagine if a moderator banned someone because of this

[@R.K_Chalkboard]

Then there's also spelling too. The words duck, and beach are not bad words unless you use them in certain contexts, and even then, would you rather have them use replacement-words, or the actual words?

[@blank6604]

A friend of mine actually experienced this, his account name was mildly simmilar to a certain English language word while being a totally normal one in his. He got permabanned with no chance of appeal and had to make a new one.

[@nobivy3524]

Mojang when P2W servers are everywhere: _’i sleep’_ Mojang when someone says heck: *_’REAL SHlT’_*

[@Artoliann]

Its a sad prospect, although we all should’ve seen this coming knowing Microsoft. Mojang probably didn’t want to add this but I doubt they had a choice, it was probably a Microsoft business decision.

[@memeboi69-k3v]

Fuk Microsoft they are ruining Minecraft and are adding microtransactions

[@grahamturner2640]

I wonder why Microsoft would want the change.

[@TechBlade9000]

​@@grahamturner2640 Parents complain and sue about "Only interaction not rated by the ESRB" indeed being way above what the ESRB rated Minecraft to Mojang/microsoft This is their hotfix (easier than educating parents and making them actually parent)

[@snowythecolaaddict]

​@@grahamturner2640 well they've been scummy since Windows 10.

[@Artoliann]

@@grahamturner2640 I’m guessing they added it because they wanted more control over what choices players have. I’d hope that they remove this soon because of the backlash but I doubt it unfortunately.

[@finnyjam8252]

Banning players should be up to individual servers. I’m totally fine with someone being say banned from hypixel, but being banned from the entire game with no chance of redemption? That’s messed up.

[@Liam_Patton]

This is a good opportunity to ask you this. Do you see why people in real life are so worried about free speech rights? Microsoft can't punish you physically. The government can.

[@chaoticgood1977]

Sound like rockstar 💀

[@IDoABitOfTrollin]

@@Liam_Patton that has what to do with being banned from a single player game?

[@Liam_Patton]

@@IDoABitOfTrollin People in power misreading or choosing to misread speech to see it as bad, and punishing people for it. That's literally exactly what the nazis did to people and removed their rights to appear in public. Once they were out of the public eye they were easy to kidnap and kill. Multiplayer account gone, singleplayer account gone. I'm not calling microsoft nazis, but I am saying that this situation is like a tiny baby version of the same recurring theme in history.

[@SamaraiBoi]

@@Liam_Patton Unrelated

[@pyroshock2789]

What seems the most frightening thing to me is the possibility that anyone can be targeted and server owners themselves can be banned entirely, which could have catastrophic effects on public servers.

[@tinsucevic]

Somebody should report bomb all the major server owners. Let's see microsoft keep this up when backlash from the biggest servers hits them

[@blinking_dodo]

Time to forge reportable chat messages for the developers themselves! *THEN* they will realize how bad an idea this is...

[@tinsucevic]

@@blinking_dodo even better

[@OfficialZubakovaZestyAlpha]

just wait till that happens to famous minecraft youtubers and microsoft will see how rapidly minecraft dies.

[@TylerTMG]

2B2T

[@f1awsy]

This is what happens when companies try to make their games too safe. You get issues where anybody can report anybody as long as they feel as something they said maybe slightly offensive to them, only them. And then ban that person. Thats why I only play with my friends

[@thewhitefalcon8539]

Your friends will still ban you.

[@SergeantMild]

​@@thewhitefalcon8539 This response feels so serious and even a little dark, when in reality it's hilarious. I really appreciate that.

[@globeonthethread866]

No, your right. This ruins the game. The fun is being able to do whatever you want, not this. They should leave anything multiplayer how it is.

[@NormanOtterman]

It’s not gonna ruin the whole game. This is only 1 thing revolving around game chat, and how the moderation is done is also highly likely to change and be modified in the near future

[@jamesfrederick.]

Strong agree Microsoft has gone to far, I thought Minecraft was for all people and was a free space

[@capnsteele3365]

@@NormanOtterman nah what it does is that crazy folk will want to ban alot of people

[@leMoonfur]

Yep

[@hilariousskullnamedcatzo647]

I'm pretty sure being racist in a kids game is terrible

[@GhepoMC]

I think the biggest problem with this is that so many resources were dedicated to this feature (resources which could have been otherwise dedicated to improving the game and adding more content). Hopefully this comment does not get my account banned 🤞

[@Jesus-qv5sw]

Yes, the same with the silly and dumb collaboration with death franchises like angry birds, Buzz Ligear, Ice Age on bedrock, Mojang used more resources on that collaborations than on making fireflies, or making birch forests, or other revamps.

[@louieplays9229]

Im RePoRTing YOu

[@scyllajk2757]

The biggest problem is that they can ban you for what you type. If you say fuck on a server and get banned on it now that is it. If you say fuck then, you cant play online anymore. See the problem?

[@kingzombie951]

I think if Mojang keeps going down this path of not listening to community and changing things that need to be like bugs. If they do continue they will lose buissnes I think it going to bite them in the ass and lose business. Hopefully this comment doesn't get reported

[@link_team3855]

@@kingzombie951 mostly microsoft problem. but uh. still big problem. and mojang will take the blame because they are directly linked to MC

[@Greeny55Five]

Moderation should be done at the server-level, not account-level. If there is a ban system, it should only be done either by the server, or if you're being a problem on official servers, you get banned on official servers, but there's literally not a single reason to ban someone from singleplayer.

[@nima7632]

servers could already do that. A few years back I got banned from a server for cheating.

[@khalifaadam1653]

The good old days wehn you wont get your account what you payed for banned

[@flowcharts7987]

and what about a server that you host yourself?

[@charles3840]

Yeah. Microsoft has no responsibility for what players do on their accounts or even on a server. _And that's a good thing._ Admins and mods are the ones responsible for keeping their own servers in a state they want it to be by disciplining players. There's no good reason for Microsoft and Mojang to implement this. No one was really blaming them for misbehaving players (and the people who did aren't technically literate). They can't be reasonably held responsible for something like 2b2t. Privately run servers are just that: private. And if a parent desperately wants to protect their children, there are ways to ban their home network from connecting to certain IPs and domains. If Microsoft wants to make those tools more easily accessible, so be it. (They own the operating system as well.) They are not morally or legally responsible for these servers. And they should be legally barred from moderating people on an account basis.

[@russotusso1695]

There is a reason to ban somebody from singleplayer To force them to buy Minecraft again

[@kingwolf9447]

This gives me a valid argument to never play on any versions that have chat reporting I never play multiplayer anyway.

[@FungIsSquish]

It’s so sad that anyone speaking out against this in technical Minecraft communities, like every other addition hinting at censorship, is very often shunned, called conspiracy theorist, or even muted/banned for questioning Microsoft. People who have blind trust in these corporations are the reason things like this keep being allowed

[@bumblebeegamerreal]

Don't forget that a leaked developer build of Minecraft Bedrock caused Mojang to censor and strike people's videos. Furthermore, they even disallowed MisterEpic to ever state, talk or upload about MC Dev.

[@bumblebeegamerreal]

The censorship from covering minecraft dev alone could mean that they will abuse it more in the future for other uses

[@1005rhys]

@@bumblebeegamerreal this will 100% be abused

[@bumblebeegamerreal]

Don't forget that a developer build of Minecraft Bedrock caused Mojang to censor and strike people's videos. Furthermore, they even disallowed MisterEpic to ever state, talk or upload about MC Dev.

[@bumblebeegamerreal]

@@1005rhys I'm talking about the recent minecraft bedrock dev, but KZbin deleted my comment

[@heinzdahmlich1745]

Another important point is the fact that this system won't punish the players really deserving it. Most hackers, griefers, toxic players etc. use NFAs anyways which literally cost CENTS! If they get banned, they will just use another account... So by only buying NFAs you are basically immune to the system and it only is about 1 or 2 USD a month...

[@nima7632]

Yet again really only punishing honest, good people.

[@globeonthethread866]

As someone who hacks from time to time, I can confirm this is useless. It also makes way to hacks that can spam false report people to ban them.

[@double0028]

@@globeonthethread866 yeah when i was watching the video i had the exact same idea. It is just a question of time until we will se a client with a report spam module.

[@CyberCat3O]

Ah yes, Non Fungible Accounts.

[@Wishy.]

@@CyberCat3O Not the time

[@Wulfjager]

I find this extremely dystopian and like something straight out of a bad dream. To completely remove someone's ability to play a game they purchased, even when not playing with anyone else, is outrageous and pointless. What I loved about Minecraft in the beta/2011 era is that it was so liberating and open and now everything feels locked down and moderated. Pretty soon they'll start censoring Java chat like what happens to bedrock chat *Made the comment prior to watching the video, glad to see he discussed the ridiculous bedrock chat filtering

[@Liam_Patton]

Take the opportunity to think about the right to Freedom of Speech. Do you want a real-life government to be able to hurt people for speech?

[@electronium6378]

litteraly 1984

[@atlasthespy2707]

It's also a crime

[@dpawensza]

Literally 1984

[@SamaraiBoi]

@@Liam_Patton This is a game about blocks, not a politics simulator.

[@thatonecommenter.]

Coming a year later, I find it crazy that I have not heard of the chat reporting since it came out

[@CorMikeYT]

From now on, I'm playing on 1.18 servers.

[@InventorZahran]

The problem with not sharing the reason for a ban is that the banned player may unwittingly commit the same offense again after their ban period is over. Whereas if you tell them why they were banned, they'll be able to make sure they don't break that rule again (not that these rules should exist in the first place).

[@vertopolkaLF]

Totally agree. If you want to teach player don't do something you don't want - TELL HIM WHAT

[@InventorZahran]

@@vertopolkaLF But that's the thing: these rules aren't about teaching the players, but controlling them. And the best way to control a population is to create arbitrary laws that they'll naturally and frequently break, and then use that to justify aggressive over-policing. We see this in the real world, now it's in our Minecraft too. I thought video games were supposed to be a means of escapism from the troubles of life!

[@IdiotN4]

@@InventorZahran If ya cant escape politics why would you be able to escape the rest of the bullshit? :(

[@silverbone4845]

​@@InventorZahran you're so right

[@daemonvanmeir9697]

could say the same to the people from my old friendgroup i got kicked out of :)

[@Toksyuryel]

This kind of thing should honestly be illegal. I suspect it already is in some countries. I know most of Europe has very strong consumer protection laws, it would be worth looking into.

[@ArtisChronicles]

@@RdTrler maybe someone should make some more permanent calls

[@ahscott2001]

The idea that you can be banned in singleplayer for an indefinite amount of time for a reason they won't tell you is absurd.

[@muchotexto4248]

Imagine you one day write the word cunt in Word Office and the fucking thing then says "You are banned"

[@user-ARCHON_GRID]

It's also straight up illegal fraud, advance fee fraud, to be exact

[@rustyhowe3907]

It makes me wonder if it's some kind of money milking strategy. "Oh you want to play again?...yeah you gotta buy Minecraft again to start a new account".

[@plumpo4047]

@@rustyhowe3907 funny part is how most people that get permanently banned are probably just gonna pirate the game / buy a stolen account for much cheaper.

[@AndrewPacketikov]

@@rustyhowe3907 покупать одинлчную игру, где вас могут забанить - безумие и тупость, я призываю ваех пиратить одиночные игры с донатом и банами.

[@soundtopia34]

It should be that when you do something wrong on a server, it stays in that server. There is no REASON that it should be for the full game. Even Beethoven understands that, doesn’t he?

[@the_mariocrafter]

Right. Minecraft is supposed to be a decentralized protocol

[@LuxuriantCarrot]

This may be why microsoft forced us to migrate. To establish a form of "universal ban", where a ban on any of their platforms means one on all. Just a thought.

[@viedralavinova8266]

One ban to rule them all, one ban to find them, One ban to bring them all, and in the darkness bind them; In the Land of Microsoft where the shadows lie.

[@bruhbruh-us6gl]

@oh no no Mojang is just as much a part of this as microsoft is. Notch should’ve never sold Mojang, it’s clear to me he’s the one that had real passion for minecraft and game development.

[@gorillaglue2560]

"Dont worry, nothing you like about minecraft is going to change!" Boy did that hold up

[@MakerManX]

@@pringle409 The cycle has come to bite us. After making Notch suffer into selling the game and him going through a depression, now we have to suffer the consequences of some other people's action from the same community

[@bruhbruh-us6gl]

@@pringle409 True, though I dislike being labeled as part of a “community” because I play a game. Also I never hated Notch, and I opposed the people that did. It seems to me a loud minority are the ones advocating for these changes the majority does not want.

[@vixeythevixen]

It's funny how some people are still hard trying to defend microsoft and mojang actions with such dark history of moderation shadowbans and etc (not only in minecraft)

[@gamerpro608]

it's mostly microsoft

[@cinnplayedminecraft]

Mojang is just under microsoft's pinky.

[@InvalidUser_]

It's just microsoft. They were behind the migration aswell

[@REDARROW_A_Personal]

I have had to pull a Ben Shapiro on these people and explain to them how stupid them wanting to support such draconian messures.

[@sls12III]

Mojang is clean, Microsoft on the other hand.

[@No-vq1iv]

I remember when Microsoft first acquired Minecraft my biggest fear was that they were going to kill support for it and focus on the Bedrock edition. Now I realize, that would've been the good ending.

[@hiddentreasure2161]

Yup.. If things continue the way they are, the only viable way to play minecraft will be to revert back to legacy versions.

[@michaelepica3564]

@@hiddentreasure2161 I've already begun doing that. I only play on 1.16 now, because of this garbage. I can't be reported on 1.16, so please, fuck off mojang.

[@yxsian9082]

@@hiddentreasure2161 mhm

[@shadowspartanzeta7]

They do all of this shit to arbitrarily drive sales by banned players buying new accounts. They are not only being shitbags, but they are encouraging ban evasion

[@No-vq1iv]

@@shadowspartanzeta7 I don't think so, they have similar policies with Forza and Halo as well and for those games you don't need a new copy to ban evade.

[@lzxty6024]

A server I'm active in, Minehut, decided to switch to Mojang chat reporting. A few months later, they switched back to their own moderators because Mojang did NOTHING.

[@glazechunk]

That’s interesting🤔

[@joshuapateldeleon]

My biggest concern is that people will undoubtedly abuse this moderation system as a means to ban players who they hate/spite and or have a "hit" or bounty put upon them. Getting permanently banned from online play on a game you paid for is far to cruel of a punishment, one that I wouldn't wish even on my worst enemy.

[@mybaIIz]

Hacked client developers are already talking about implementing mass-report functions. Honestly I hope (assuming mojang will double down on this) that they do, and that it causes so much of an issue they have to change it. That's the only hope I can see right now and it's depressing that it's even having to be like that

[@mow_cat]

imagine if 2b2t had this chat moderation...

[@willowshake023]

@@mow_cat They are testing new versions to make a transition

[@AdnanAgusti]

Roblox user mass report minecraft player for saying minecraft better

[@mincraffkoolistgam4557]

You know your life is incredibly easy if getting banned from a video game is your idea of an in humane punishment

[@darklighttwins2776]

“No one can tell you what you can or cannot do” - Official Minecraft Trailer What Microsoft is doing is the exact opposite of the game’s purpose. The big bad of Minecraft isn’t Herobrine or some made up goofy character, it’s Microsoft.

[@doorsroblox123]

yeah Microsoft has ruined minecraft

[@moob453sosuexperience8]

your not wrong on te good side there is nothing microsoft can do. The amount of things we can do. Im pretty sure at this point if the community wanted they could take the game away from microsoft.

[@connorskuya4472]

@@moob453sosuexperience8 yeah lets do that

[@brolive-gw9ql]

@@doorsroblox123 yep

[@gamefreak2016]

If they intend to ban people from single player then they need to start refunding people for being banned. I understand banning people from multiplayer but banning from single player is insanely too far

[@-tweeomoz-1786]

But how are they supposed to con people out of their money then? How will Microsoft executives ever afford their seventh solid-gold hot-tub?

[@Intelwinsbigly]

"I understand banning people from multiplayer" Spineless

[@perfectionist.]

@@Intelwinsbigly literally almost every single online game has a ban/report feature. Single player however? Unheard of.

[@Intelwinsbigly]

@@perfectionist. 2b has no rules, worked out great

[@ayyyndrew-u]

@@Intelwinsbigly a server that advertises its lack of rules doesn’t have a banning problem? Who would’ve guessed?!

[@lag7721]

In the start I was like "lol Minecraft is immortal" at the end I was like "if this don't change it goodbye Minecraft". Should we just give money to notch for him to buy Minecraft again?

[@SvengelskaBlondie]

Id be ok if he bought minecraft, once it crashed and burned. Maybe he can buy it back for a hefty discount

[@Otome_chan311]

Just pirate it. It's what notch would've wanted. Dude literally told us to pirate the game. We should listen.

[@nerfcatss]

​@@Otome_chan311to pirate the game...If you couldnt afford it and said to feel bad

[@mooing_cowmilk]

Currently, if your unable to sign in your account on bedrock you can't play single player worlds you have if they are marketplace ones. So if server support ever ends, you lose access to your worlds you paid money for (I have experienced this first hand since I have crappy internet)

[@imm-a-bot]

No shit? What you basically just said is, "why can't I play in worlds that cost money without confirming that I've spent money!". Like obviously if your not signed into an account you can't play them...

[@AnEnderNon]

@@imm-a-bot the only way you would get the worlds in the first place is if you paid

[@darkdwarf007]

@@imm-a-bot no, what he basically said is "if the server support ever ends, there is no way to play worlds that I rightfully bought"

[@imm-a-bot]

@@AnEnderNon there's a saves file that you can just add worlds with...

[@imm-a-bot]

@@darkdwarf007 that's literally the same as any other online game purchasing system.... if steam were to stop existing you'd also lose all your games Edit: if server support does end it'd also mean the end of the game and not just the end of the marketplace

[@juliusvdl2204]

I got shadowmuted countless times when I played bedrock servers, I remember having to check every week with friends if they could see my messages, and more often than not, they couldn’t. I cannot tell you how many damn times I had to type that strain of characters to unmute myself. You’re one of the first KZbinrs with a large following to bring a light to shadowmuting, thank you.

[@quisquiliarum7710]

omg this just reminded me that like a month ago me and my friend couldn't talk to eachother in text chat and I didn't know why but just chalked it up to bugrock doing it's thing. I guess we were both shadow muted

[@OctoFloofy]

I'm shadowmuted since years already lmao

[@vlfpl]

I have a feeling this is breaking some consumer laws in EU, Microsoft/Mojang has no right to moderate third-party servers using your own client. This is a serious case of privacy breach in my eyes. Not to mention having a product you paid for preventing you from use of partial or full functionality due to vaguely specified reasons.

[@silverpuffle]

can we sue microsoft

[@altoidss10]

not only the EU but the US too the first amendment comes to mind?

[@shytrunks]

@@altoidss10 first amendment only applies to government censorship, not private companies

[@harryvpn1462]

And the fact they dont cancel realm subscriptions after banning you from using them alongside all of this is enough to sue them and win the lawsuit

[@spigotnerd5374]

@@silverpuffle or all banned players can spam sue microsoft in one day ;)

[@dhordey]

I remember playing Minecraft for the first time back in 2015, and seeing what it has become 8 years later is just...sad. People said that Minecraft will never lose popularity, and I guess you can't escape the inevitable.

[@TheyCallMeIce]

I remember seeing a video in the mid 2010s that was like "One day, you, too, will place your last Minecraft block". I told myself that no, I will never stop playing this amazing game. Oh how wrong I was.

[@wafflenovas]

Minecraft has gone through a lot over the years. Many times I've thought the game was entering it's last stages, but then it would somehow come through. But this? This might actually be the downfall of Minecraft.

[@tuxtitan780]

I've already been turned away from minecraft recently, I've been more in favor of terraria because it's still really easy to mod it, and there's just more content in the vanilla game. The only upside minecraft gas compared to terraria rn is that its 3d, which means it has more potential not for mods, but for mini games and big multiplayer games like bedwars

[@isaiahc8390]

Repent and follow Jesus my friend! Repenting doesn't mean confessing your sins to others, but to stop doing them altogether. Belief in Messiah alone is not enough to get you into heaven - Matthew 7:21-23, John 3:3, John 3:36 (ESV is the best translation for John 3:36). Contemplate how the Roman empire fulfilled the role of the beast from the sea in Revelation 13. Revelation 17 confirms that it is in fact Rome. From this we can conclude that A) Jesus is the Son of God and can predict the future or make it happen, B) The world leaders/nations/governments etc have been conspiring together for the last 3000+ years to accomplish the religion of the Israelites C) History as we know it is fake. You don't really need to speculate though because you can start a relationship with God and have proof. Call on the name of Jesus and pray for Him to intervene in your life. - Revelation 3:20 Revelation has been unfolding since Jesus died. The Popes have claimed to be equal to God and set themselves in Jesus' place (antichrist(s)). Vatican City (Which is its own nation BTW) have risen up to fulfill the role of the false prophet Regarding the man of lawlessness or antichrist, 2 Thessalonians 2:4 says “Who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sits in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.” The restrainer that the Apostle Paul was referring to in 2 Thessalonians was the Western Roman Emperor, who held back the Popes from taking power. Once the last Western Roman Emperor was removed from power in 476 AD, the Pope was given civil and ecclesiastic authority over Rome; healing the deadly head wound of the beast in Revelation 13, as they took the Emperors title of Pontifex Maximus, leader of the church and state. “We may according to the fullness of our power, dispose of the law and dispense above the law. Those whom the Pope of Rome doth separate, it is not a man that separates them but God. For the Pope holdeth place on earth, not simply of a man but of the true God.” (Source: “Decretals of Gregory IX,” Book 1, chapter 3.) Pope Pius V blasphemed, “The Pope and God are the same, so he has all power in Heaven and earth.” (Source: Pope Pius V, quoted in Barclay, Cities Petrus Bertanous Chapter XXVII: 218.) Pope Leo XIII declared, “We hold upon this earth the place of God Almighty.” (Source: Pope Leo XIII Encyclical Letter, June 20, 1894) The antichrist sea beast of Revelation points to the office of the papacy, the Popes of Rome, who controlled the Roman beast for 1,260 years, from 538-1798 AD. Daniel 7:25 says “And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.” The Popes of Rome spoke against Elohim and proclaimed to be God. They reigned for 1,260 years, from 538-1798 AD. during which they caused tens of millions of saints to be killed. The Pope’s title is Vicar of Christ, which in Latin is ‘Vicarius Filii Dei’, and equates numerically to the number 666

[@-SteampunkTraveler-]

Literally 1984

[@squaeman_2644]

I mean it's the principle. How could you continue to support companies that not only don't care about you, but are actively looking for ways to screw you and potentially your kids. After 10 years I'm done with Minecraft.

[@justintheprotogen9348]

this is not the downfall of minecraft. this is the end of an era. if mojang doesn't revoke the update then chances are likely for players to get banned for no reason and spread the word to the point where there won't be new players in minecraft. meaning that eventually the last player might get banned and nobody wants to play anymore because others told them to stay away from the game due to the bad moderation they have.

[@seaplanter]

This is kind of like the snooper thing: Most people didn’t mind leaving it on, but as soon as mojang took away the option to turn it off, I was kinda mad. Its not like its a big deal, but its the fact that I didn’t have any control over turning it on/off that annoyed me.

[@tposman1547]

its not mojang, its microsoft

[@Boo1ya]

I think there are mods that disable the snooper feature

[@phoneticalballsack]

This is a unprecedented issue, Sure. But, the problem of children starving is worse. That means that this issue is not bad.

[@scout-05]

@@phoneticalballsack were talking about block game you unseasoned beef.

[@phoneticalballsack]

@@scout-05 You misunderstood my comment you vacuous slimeball.

[@commander3494]

I love how within hours of that feature being added someone already made a mod that can fully prevent you from being reported if its just installed client side, and if installed server side it wont let any player on the server report, even if they dont have the mod. Edit: oh lol he mentioned it in the video

[@raymondboudreau]

Society is beautiful

[@NovaBoi7]

@@raymondboudreau yes

[@DiamondYoshi101]

I've never seen someone work on a mod so fast before.

[@_kiyazz]

The mod was made earlier when someone reverse engineering the code found a hidden feature that would make reporting possible later, they released it now that reporting is a thing

[@cllncl]

Can't wait for the mod where you just spam report everyone in the server for every single reason. Gonna get LOTS of people banned.

[@wherewiiwentwrong]

You know why they're going forward with this? Wait about half a year or so. There will be an update to put ads into Minecraft on world loading screens, or for the bedrock marketplace. It's going to happen inevitably, as it is Microsoft.

[@demarcorr]

now that you say it, it doesnt seem the least bit implausible. They have an ESG score and a profit motive just like everyone else, at the end of the day we're gonna be the product

[@XandarYT]

Well someone will make an adblocker mod. Still that would be disgusting

[@zuzoscorner]

Entering nether. boom 30 seconds unskipalbe ad

[@doteleven5890]

this prediction was incorrect

[@COKTilYouDrop]

I mean yes but that's low budget compared to just adding marketplace stuff for people to waste money on

[@grahamturner2640]

It might not even be Mojang doing it, but Microsoft forcing it. They've seemed to have been forcing a bunch of changes on Minecraft (e.g. the Microsoft account requirement).

[@rainbowsixwarden7243]

I think i like notch more than microsoft...

[@rainbowsixwarden7243]

I think i like notch more than microsoft...

[@LadZeroUltra]

@@rainbowsixwarden7243 At least he’s funny on twitter

[@AshenDust_]

@@rainbowsixwarden7243 at least Microsoft isn’t randomly posting transphobic things on twitter. Honestly they’re the lesser of the 2 evils.

[@AstelleredTV]

Alright so when we buying Minecraft /j

[@Kyee124]

I think if anything, the ban should only affect realms, because that's the server Mojang host, so they can do whatever they want, I really don't think it is reasonable if I was banned from Minecraft multiplayer because I joke about something that is slightly more offensive in the private server me and my friend hosted

[@HHHjb_]

Yes

[@navybIue]

honestly not even realms, we pay for the servers, and we should decide how to take care of things for ourselves. no one wants mojang or microsoft to get in our ways

[@mathughsyoutubeworld2655]

Not even realms it’s meant for you and your friends if you call you friend names it’s just good fun.

[@whoisdarkyxd554]

yeah ikr

[@davidarvingumazon5024]

Don't Update Your Minecraft, You're Safe :)

[@Minecraftforadacaixa]

MisterEpic is totally right, we are not supposed to be ruled by so flawed of a system. The fact little info about how to appeal or have no way as to find a reason for why people are banned is just outright atrocious. Not cancelling realms subscriptions right away by the way is really unfair.

[@giovannicesaramorim9adigan961]

Let's be real, it's basically what Mojang's major ideology wants to do: control what people say, even in a game.

[@randomdood6997]

Ikr its really unfair

[@elweewutroone]

Minecraft is becoming more like the CCP🇨🇳

[@tzshchsjsjxijyo]

@@elweewutroone the next update they're gonna add a social credit score

[@Judge_0f_Everything]

@Elweewut Roone wtf is ccp?

[@CookeDGold]

Microsoft should be sued for this, like what the hell? Doesn’t servers have the “/report” command? This is ridiculous, imagine you’re playing in a server with no rules (like 2b2t) and someone reports you? Wow Microsoft, great job.

[@JustARegularNerd]

The crazy thing to me is that Mojang have had smaller backlashes from changes they've made, such as that time in a 1.13 pre-release they changed the texture of bark blocks, and they immediately undid it in the following snapshot because the players didn't like it. I think this absolutely proves beyond reasonable doubt this is a decision handed down by Microsoft, not Mojang.

[@bruhbruh-us6gl]

Stop defending Mojang, they’re no better than microsoft at this point. The passion for game development left Mojang with Notch and it has been gone ever since

[@bruhbruh-us6gl]

@@GeodeNome If he knew what would happen to the game he would’ve never sold it, and honestly I think he’s the only person who could fix the game

[@bruhbruh-us6gl]

@@GeodeNome I guess the only option now is to play older versions of the game. Not much else we can do.

[@My_Old_YT_Account]

@@bruhbruh-us6gl last I heard he still didn't care

[@bruhbruh-us6gl]

@@My_Old_YT_Account Maybe not anymore, but he’s the one that made minecraft what it was

[@darthcalzone6653]

You mentioned Mojang a lot in this, but in FitMC's video, he mentioned quite rightly how the community and Mojang had a good realtionship before Microsoft bought Minecraft. Likely this is Microsoft making the game more 'child friendly'.

[@SuperMatheusmp]

They seem to forget a lot of teenagers and adults still play and are the ones that mod this game.

[@Astro-ex5ye]

So they get more purchases

[@idontexist1681]

@@SuperMatheusmp modders are a game dev's worst friend. If you kill mods, you get a lot more money

[@darkprinc979]

@@SuperMatheusmp Making the game "child friendly" is just an excuse to exert more control over the players. These sorts of justifications are very often used by dirty politicians who want to push something they know people would reject if they knew the true purpose behind it.

[@ILoveQazaqstan]

One of the reasons why I hate younger children

[@Hunter-lt2sb]

I don't agree with the developers moderating servers that aren't even theirs... Other servers have different values. Let them decide how they want it. It's what Minecraft is all about.

[@spigotnerd5374]

@Fashinqu A. Omg, you got a great idea. Less people will buy minecraft, so the will take a step back and rethink their moves.

[@justintheprotogen9348]

totally agree with you there mate. it's just bullsh*t to interfere mith a moderation system. minecraft servers belong to their hosts and therefore are their property. mojang has no rights to interfere with a servers own moderation system. these bans are going as far as to ripping peoples money out of their pockets because their subscriptions don't get cancelled. and this is a crime called scamming.

[@user-sz7rp7kr4c]

@@justintheprotogen9348 I think Microsoft saved the „control“ over there game for servers in the AGBs, there is something like „our game, we can make with these servers what we want even if you pay for the server“ shit

[@joern122]

waiting for 2b2t´s creative use of the report and ban features. It is going to be so awfully messy..... and the "highly trained moderation team" will be working double time the second this system goes live.....

[@Hunter-lt2sb]

@@joern122 It will probably require an upgrade. When the update does go live, people will find a way around it with mods.

[@nadavweil711]

mojang stoped us from posting a comment on the update edit: they really dont care about our feedback

[@mkwbrick5758]

Sadly, they just have no idea.

[@HDified]

what we wanted out of 1.19 - more biomes - more mobs - many items and cool features what we got - 2 biomes, both so rare that you will most likely never encounter them - 2 mobs that spawn in the rare biomes - *boat* - a way for players to get you to waste 26€ by mass reporting you and getting you banned

[@qxlf]

ye its absolute bs, we as a comunity need to do something about this. the right of banning needs to stay by server owners, not mojang

[@alamak12]

1 more things we got - *fucked up by Microsoft*

[@gamingchickenstudios]

@@-prime-249 I can already see that happening...

[@ChangedTWR]

Minecraft is becoming roblox 💀

[@mortalkod5057]

@@ChangedTWR Its becoming even worse,soon the game that we once all loved will die out again,but this time I dont think it will come back...

[@nathanielwindsor7679]

I suspect that the mass adoption of mods designed to circumvent microsoft's moderation efforts will only embolden them to start policing what mods are allowed to do in the first place, which would make the current fiasco look like nothing in comparison

[@fanban2926]

My thoughts too

[@DialecticRed]

If that happens I'll just move to using a cracked version of the game, and I'm sure many others would follow suit. I am a communist, and like to discuss topics with some of my friends about historical figures we consider influential (Lenin, Castro, Ho Chi Ming, etc). My political opinions shouldn't get me banned from playing multiplayer or the game entirely. Even if you disagree with my politics, that's not the point I'm making. All I'm saying is that this is yet another instance of capitalist corporations taking agency away from common people to censor the exchanges we have with one another.

[@teslo8020]

@@DialecticRed wholeheartedly agree. Restriction of free speech ruins any alternate forms of thought. As a fellow socialist who hates Microsoft the corporation, I’m scared.

[@sebagomez4647]

@@DialecticRed yeah basically this was not a problem. they came up with a shitty solution to a problem that didnt exist. if they wanted to do this just make the moderator tools for private servers better

[@Jesus-qv5sw]

It will just make that most of community stays on 1.19 or 1.18.2 (overall for redstoners complaining for portal changes), i personally did not passed to 1.19 for the dissapoint i got for cancelling the wild features on wild update, i expected wildlife and stuff and we just got mangrive and swamp for that aspect, but now i think that i wont do it until they fix this thing of servers and the wildlife stuff.

[@func_e]

I'm 100% on the community's side on this one. I'm usually the one to take Mojang's side, but frankly, they should stay the heck out of banning players from the game those players paid to get. I love the fact that the modding community is taking a stance here, too. That makes the Amarican in me so happy

[@yoshigalxyed4664]

what's worst about this, is that it wasn't Mojang's decision to implement this, but Microsoft's so they aren't to blame here, since they first had to implement this on Bedrock, because of compatibility with other consoles

[@func_e]

@@yoshigalxyed4664 yikes

[@motivatedvergil8915]

There's an american in you?

[@feesh5648]

I agree with u

[@func_e]

@@motivatedvergil8915 heeeeeeeeeck yeah. Don't worry, he's safe

[@Invalid-user13k]

It's quite sad to see people being able to report anyone and get them banned without the moderation verifying

[@dragonmaster1500]

I've heard that it's mostly Microsoft that's been pushing for these 'features' not Mojang. Really brings their business practices into question. Interestingly, Bedrock is also, from my understanding, managed almost entirely by Microsoft, not Mojang.

[@hardik005dhull3]

mofang is owned my microsoft so everything is controled my microsoft

[@johnnydoe00]

Microsoft bought Minecraft for Money

[@teknixstuff]

It's MS ruining it, not Mojang. Had mojang stayed independent, this would have never happened.

[@willsterjohnson]

​@@teknixstuff agreed, the likes of Jeb, Notch, and the rest of the pre-MS team were there to make as good of a game as possible (which they did exceptionally well), now the few of them still there are heavily influenced by some idiots in suits up at Microsoft, and have very little ability to say "no". It's getting to the point where FAANG-level organisations such as MS are collectively forming a Monopoly (Polyopoly?) and consumers have no say in how the products they buy/subscribe to/already own are changed or modified, even when overwhelming amounts of people try to say "no".

[@MB32904]

@@hardik005dhull3 microsoft said they had a hands off approach in regard to mojang. microsoft did not determine the outcome of minecraft, until now

[@zen1210]

The mute function which was intordised in 1.17 was the best, since it's player decision on who should we mute, but this moderation system is the worst, some random guy would come to a random anarchy server and banned you because you say 'I am going burn your house' and banned you even though It is a server with no rules and Microsoft forced a rule

[@thomasaitken7495]

I'm not a fan of the anarchy servers, but I agree with your statement. They should have no say on private servers.

[@phoneticalballsack]

This is a great feature.

[@Legoperson75]

I think we need to have a class action lawsuit against Microsoft at this rate. The immense lack of transparency should be illegal.

[@CharmineX]

If everyone throws out their 2 cents, than yeah we will definitely do something

[@RealTallestSkil]

It is, actually. Having paid for the game license, the company may not revoke it from you at any time, for any reason. If you retain the original hardware on which it could successfully run, that ability to play the game cannot, by law, be revoked. This holds true in the US, Canada, and the EU. Burn them for hundreds of millions and then never pay for a Microsoft product again.

[@duscarasheddinn8033]

@@RealTallestSkil Why not murder Microsoft executives? Would that make the Minecraft community happy given how liking Microsoft and Minecraft seem to be mutually exclusive?

[@BriefcaseGaming4460]

@@blueninja2003 doesn't matter if it's illegal

[@myacht]

@Miki EULA can make shit like stealing you information legal apparently

[@Jortpower2009-ev8io]

Fun fact of the day in java edition on a multiplayer server all I need to do to disable chat reporting is install any plugin that does anything with chat

[@Blaze5x5x5]

I remember McAdmin. Team Avolition really fucked that shit up. If a single greifing team destroys a very popular global ban plugin because of a grudge against it creator imagine what every greifing team effected by this will do to a feature added by the devs.

[@devinnall2284]

I honestly hope griefers blitz it and get so many people banned Mojang is forced to completely remove the system

[@Blaze5x5x5]

@@devinnall2284 I think its more Microsoft being bitches than Mojang but yeah same.

[@AlexanderScott66]

To be fair, it was still implemented better than Microsoft's. At least that was purely choice: if a server wanted to run it, they could, otherwise they didn't have to, and it didn't ban you from singleplayer.

[@synexiasaturnds727yearsago7]

lmao I still remember when Doridian added them and their alts to the list

[@Cooldude-ko7ps]

Imagine the backlash from the 2b2t community….

[@xd.5513]

The fact that they might take away singleplayer too scares me. And that the customer needs to cancel the the realms subscribtion even after access getting ripped from them is just awful, also if someone is chatting in a realm PAID by them, they should have a right to chat what they want and not be spied or moderated. This kinda does feel like an invasion of privacy action too. Minecraft has always been a community game, let it be moderated and governed by it. I feel many people will go to consumer courts for this LOL

[@BenjaminB-99]

yup.

[@hrkure6498]

They can't take away your access to singleplayer, as you can always play the game in offline mode where they have no way of determining if you are banned or not.

[@xd.5513]

@@hrkure6498 relief.

[@razzy1]

@@nicoelevadoados why not?

[@xd.5513]

@@nicoelevadoados i actually dont

[@xeenproof2024]

Over the last few years, I realized that the most overpowered thing in the world is the Internet Hivemind, especially when enough of them are really passionate. I don’t care how good your team of developers/programmers are, they will lose, hard. The second the player report feature was announced, a counter is already in development and within a month, it’s complete. Keep in mind the chat report feature likely took longer. Honestly, what the hell is Microsoft hoping to achieve here, they won’t gain anything from it but a spot next to EA or possibly stealing it’s spot. Honestly, putting 90% of the internet against you when you are a tech company is a bad idea.

[@gecko2738]

they just want to censor conservative and other groups who disagree with the leftist narratives.

[@oobtty]

Yeah the internet is an incredibly powerful tool for people, especially when they group up in large clusters.

[@PoggersPog]

You show me a 10 foot wall, I'll show you an 11 foot ladder

[@ungezoockt]

And even more. If you piss the internet off enough, in a week you might have nuclear fallout level of disaster by being hacked,doxxed and information leaked. Looking at 4chan there.

[@99fulgur]

If Mojang and Microsoft after all this will still put this in java edition, we should do the hard way.. we should do a massive abuse and false use of the report system making hundreds of bots random report every existing player render the system cluttered and eventually useless in the end maybe then they will listen to the community

[@Zylohex]

my friend once got shadow/ghost muted. nobody could see his messages, we were playing on hypixel (we were both on 1.8.9) and he was typing in party chat, but i couldnt see his messages. he got an alt to see if it was just me but it wasnt. we tried to go to back to the current version of minecraft, 1.19.something and we joined our survival server, he said a chat message, and nothing appeared. for some reason, he had me blocked (in the P menu of 1.19) and he tried typing once again and nothing happened. he somehow fixed it but im unassure how he did. pretty scary how he didnt do absolutely anything, because we mostly use discord chat and vc. we hardly communicate through party. we most likely see eachother online in the server (via expamle: Friend has joined.) and we private message eachother if we wanna join eachother's partys. no profanity going on and he somehow got shadow muted. Very scary.

[@Name_Pendingg]

I was thinking that the community's view point of "more realistic = better" might be the only thing that can kill minecraft but microsoft might kill minecraft through sheer stupidity

[@ShionWinkler]

The Java system isn't going to work, as Java version can simply be modded to block Mojang / Microsoft from even seeing what is going on in your game and even block the report system entirely on their server. This is the main reason Mojang / Microsoft have a love / hate relation with Java edition and have been trying to quietly kill it.

[@benjaminthemandmsgeneral5376]

I never tried that version before just bedrock edition

[@alexeyvlasenko6622]

@@benjaminthemandmsgeneral5376 The Java version is really the only viable option, since it's the only one that has any kind of reasonable mod support. If Microsoft kills Java edition, this basically means no more Minecraft modding.

[@LebronShaqthe2nd]

@@overvoltagestudio i feel like java edition players don’t realise that every other platform can also mod and customise. and we have big salmon and we can bridge 3x faster in bedrock because of block mechanics we actually have a lot more exclusive features that java players like to call “Bugs” even though most of javas “exclusives features” were confirmed to be bugs by mojang. moral of the story java is inferior and is actually the most buggy version of Minecraft

[@jacquelinenansen1029]

@@LebronShaqthe2nd yea but you have to crouch to use shields so I hate it

[@Akab]

@@LebronShaqthe2nd Java has mods, bedrock has add ons. Java mods can change the game and its mechanics to whatever our Imagination and computing power permits, bedrock mods can only add to the game and are limited to what m$ wants you to do.

[@danthegamerx]

I'm super glad you brought attention to the false banning, I'm a pocket edition player and a few months ago my account was suspended for 14 days. They said the reason was "hate speech". Then I went ahead and appealed at the support team and what they had to say was : "we looked into your case and decided to lift the suspension". Literally no proof or actual reasoning. Talk about highly trained moderators.😒

[@michaelfinlay1412]

“Highly trained moderators” Bots.

[@danthegamerx]

@@michaelfinlay1412 Fr bruh

[@maverickdarkrath4780]

from what we've seen the bedrock devs a bunch of money hungry ,arrogant snobs who don't give a shit about the community and are just Microsoft boot lickers

[@darkprinc979]

Microsoft's moderators are so highly trained that their methods and reasons are beyond the capacity of us mere mortals to comprehend.

[@danthegamerx]

@@darkprinc979 Fax, they be speaking the language of the enchanting table

[@MothflavoredJam]

so basically, Minecraft is following KZbin, Roblox, and other "safe environments" straight to abandonedment.

[@Kosh_Naranek.]

I’m really bracing myself emotionally. Minecraft is hands down my favorite activity in my life. I’ve been playing since 2012 with my best friend. I have literally thousands of hours logged in windows 10 edition alone. I know in my heart that this will be misused, and that a ban could possibly even be triggered by a glitch. I’m trying to distance myself emotionally so that when Microsoft has its stroke ruins the game for good I’ll be able to hit uninstall and go on with my life but it’s going to be hard.

[@macekreislahomes1690]

Same here. I have a bad feeling about this cencoring that might become worse than Roblox cencoring.

[@heroslippy6666]

Adapt, improvise, and overcome. They can't stop you from playing multiplayer in the golden age (beta, alpha, infdev). They can't stop you from playing modded multiplayer. They can't stop you from playing cracked servers.

[@koki1829]

I have about 50k hours in the total game, this is the reason why I may finally never play again, atleast with others who are not friends.

[@InvasionAnimation]

I know right. Not many games you can play without internet connection these days.

[@amberlewis012]

What Mojang (or more accurately, Microsoft) is doing is killing the game. One of the most POPULAR and BEST games in these 10 and more years. It's not even an ordinary indie game anymore. I'm sure we all wish that Minecraft can live on forever...but to be honest? I think the day that Minecraft dies is coming soon, way sooner than we all thought. It's sad, but we should all be emotionally prepared for that day.

[@Bob527-u8o]

It is Microsoft that is pushing for “family friendly” even though you could just self moderate with what servers you go on and online interactions have never affected game ratings so I don’t see why they are pushing it so hard now

[@gecko2738]

this is just an attempt to censor non leftist voices.

[@SerinitySack]

Maybe an attempt to get more xbox live memberships by convincing parents to buy it so their kids can play minecraft online.

[@traceswilley1880]

Family friendly rules shouldn't really be a thing, if you are such a snowflake that something that isn't seen as good for children to see offends you, you shouldn't be allowed to be online, the internet is full of toxicity, if you want to be on the internet, you need to grow up.

[@sabersz]

@@traceswilley1880 and Minecraft has been fine the way it is for over a decade. Nothing at all shouldve been changed.

[@XBGamerX20]

@@traceswilley1880 exactly. billion dollar corporations are yet the best snowflakes we can find melting nanoseconds after shit begins. we've seen the case with roblox and now hopefully it's not minecraft

[@thunderbro7218]

This happened to a close friend of mine a month back. His own brother decided it would be funny to report him and we’ll he was banned from single player which is actually bull crap.

[@nexobro348]

idea : mod surfing tips. when a mod is working, and they see a message breaking code of conduct, and click the ban hammer, a bot will surf the web including multiple sever lists, the bot will check the tags and tell what gamemode, server, player, and the message list. Then after the mod acknowledging the info for 30 secounds, they will have to make another mod say yes, then after they get successfully banned. If there is no information provided, then the ban can not happen. (same for another mod)

[@MrLityk]

This censor thing is ridiculous, me and a friend were playing on the realm I pay for and we were talking about gas prices in our areas. I told them "it takes $20 to fill up my moms car" and it censored it because of "fill up my mom" was in it. The censor makes me look like I'm saying something disgusting/inappropriate when I wasn't trying to be. I even tried turning off the filter for the server, apparently that does absolutely nothing.

[@crusher9z9]

Pluss you get to [trollface.png] for your expression of [EXPRESS PRESSION], is [MICROSLEEP] trying to [SHOVE THIS[NEW AND IMPROVED [NO FREEDOM OF SPEECH]UP YOUR [TAGGED BY MICROBESUCK] then all you have to do is! [HELP ME!!! HELP!!!! HELPP!!!!!] in such a way that [HI MY NAME IS RAMAL I AM FROM MICROS... .... --- -.-. -.- AM CALLING FOR HELP YOU WITH POPUP ON COMPUTER] can't [DECONRECONSTRUCTION] your're'ly [spam generated BY YYY OURSTRULY?!!!] [REMEMBER] [PIPEBOMBINSTRUCTION? ATNOPRICEATAL!!!]

[@brendan5260]

>apparently that does absolutely nothing this kind of thing is illegal btw. you cant just advertise a feature in your product that doesnt exist.

[@drevcronsole]

Bedrock censorship is client sided and in a file. Delete that file or change the contents to it ro nothing.

[@MrLityk]

@@drevcronsole I play java, I dont think we have that.

[@drevcronsole]

Wait, you're talking about java. Lol. I thought it was about bedrock or smth

[@mdntsyntx]

So glad I'm hearing more people talk about this, Personally I'm not updating past 1.19 until this is fully gone. Wild to say that since I've been playing since 1.0, but this is just doing too much.

[@capnsteele3365]

theyll implement it into all versions

[@bruhbruh-us6gl]

Every new update they put out, while it adds some cool new features, overall just makes the game worse. I’ve recently started playing older versions of minecraft, and the game feels so much more fun to play. I wouldn’t be surprised if mojang just removes players’ abilities to play older versions of the game soon. They seem to love cramming their stupid and annoying changes down player’s throats

[@InvalidUser_]

@@bruhbruh-us6gl It's not mojang its microsoft forcing the moderation and they were also behind the migration too.

[@HumanoidDerpling]

SAME!

[@bruhbruh-us6gl]

@@InvalidUser_ While that is true in some cases, don’t forget none of this could happen if Mojang didn’t agree with it. While they’re still under microsoft, they retain some autonomy, since they are a subsidiary and not a direct part of Microsoft itself. Besides, it’s not Microsoft adding bad and unnecessary features and cluttering the game, now is it?

[@ecstaticryan4369]

This is rediculous. This should be up to each individual server. Mojang/Microsoft has no right to control what happens in 3rd party owned servers. You pay for a server, what happens in it should be up to you.

[@HyperNightGalaxy]

This mainly has Microsoft to blame. Microsoft is notorious for ruining great things, like how they enforced an internet connection just to play offline games, or how they started collecting and archiving your data.

[@imnotfound]

Mojang banning accounts for litterelly no reason : "You can't defeat me " Players : "I know but he can" *Tlauncher players joined the chat.

[@PicelBoi]

Quick fix: Cracked players using TLauncher, Mineshafter, etc

[@dieselgeezer18]

@@PicelBoi at this point playing cracked sounds like a good option. Microsoft is evil

[@PicelBoi]

@@dieselgeezer18 guess so.

[@ketch10]

@@dieselgeezer18 tlauncher is so easy to mod and play multiplayer in ngl

[@danteclock]

@@dieselgeezer18 yea,i prefer tlauncher cuz u can do anything without bans

[@Ultra_Ocelot]

Even giving servers a way to opt out isnt going to be enough. The ONLY way i will support this update is if servers have to opt for it, AND the ban only effects those servers.

[@bruhbruh-us6gl]

I just want it gone. There’s no point for this to exist except for microsoft to screw people over and make them buy new accounts to replace their banned ones

[@S_fey]

*yes* if it doesnt im Just going to play 1.19.0 lmfao and not update, its a shame to not be abre to update to further versions without fear of beeing falsy banned or banned by a crapply made bot, its going to be minecrafts second downfall since 1.9

[@ianverma3224]

@@Jahali902 nice to know I’m not the only one who doesn’t mind 1.9 combat

[@S_fey]

@@Jahali902 i also like more 1.9 combat

[@Talonidas7403]

1.9 combat is better

[@NY_Mapper]

If they're going to ban you from single player, which completely bars you from a game you PAID FOR, then they should be required by law to provide you a full refund.

[@roadwarrior114]

They ARE required by law to give you a full refund.

[@R3m1ly]

@@roadwarrior114 it's been said already but there's probably something in the eula that says they dont have to.

[@melelconquistador]

At that point, you didn't buy the game. You made a one time payment for a subscription.

[@Monitice]

@@melelconquistador But they didn't inform you of that.

[@isaiahc8390]

Repent and follow Jesus my friend! Repenting doesn't mean confessing your sins to others, but to stop doing them altogether. Belief in Messiah alone is not enough to get you into heaven - Matthew 7:21-23, John 3:3, John 3:36 (ESV is the best translation for John 3:36). Contemplate how the Roman empire fulfilled the role of the beast from the sea in Revelation 13. Revelation 17 confirms that it is in fact Rome. From this we can conclude that A) Jesus is the Son of God and can predict the future or make it happen, B) The world leaders/nations/governments etc have been conspiring together for the last 3000+ years to accomplish the religion of the Israelites C) History as we know it is fake. You don't really need to speculate though because you can start a relationship with God and have proof. Call on the name of Jesus and pray for Him to intervene in your life. - Revelation 3:20 Revelation has been unfolding since Jesus died. The Popes have claimed to be equal to God and set themselves in Jesus' place (antichrist(s)). Vatican City (Which is its own nation BTW) have risen up to fulfill the role of the false prophet Regarding the man of lawlessness or antichrist, 2 Thessalonians 2:4 says “Who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sits in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.” The restrainer that the Apostle Paul was referring to in 2 Thessalonians was the Western Roman Emperor, who held back the Popes from taking power. Once the last Western Roman Emperor was removed from power in 476 AD, the Pope was given civil and ecclesiastic authority over Rome; healing the deadly head wound of the beast in Revelation 13, as they took the Emperors title of Pontifex Maximus, leader of the church and state. “We may according to the fullness of our power, dispose of the law and dispense above the law. Those whom the Pope of Rome doth separate, it is not a man that separates them but God. For the Pope holdeth place on earth, not simply of a man but of the true God.” (Source: “Decretals of Gregory IX,” Book 1, chapter 3.) Pope Pius V blasphemed, “The Pope and God are the same, so he has all power in Heaven and earth.” (Source: Pope Pius V, quoted in Barclay, Cities Petrus Bertanous Chapter XXVII: 218.) Pope Leo XIII declared, “We hold upon this earth the place of God Almighty.” (Source: Pope Leo XIII Encyclical Letter, June 20, 1894) The antichrist sea beast of Revelation points to the office of the papacy, the Popes of Rome, who controlled the Roman beast for 1,260 years, from 538-1798 AD. Daniel 7:25 says “And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.” The Popes of Rome spoke against Elohim and proclaimed to be God. They reigned for 1,260 years, from 538-1798 AD. during which they caused tens of millions of saints to be killed. The Pope’s title is Vicar of Christ, which in Latin is ‘Vicarius Filii Dei’, and equates numerically to the number 666

[@Blaster1360]

I'll forever hate Notch for giving up the one thing that gave him fame and money to such a despicable, controlling, "big brother" of a company. If I paid $30 for a game where I can't even swear in a *single player* session where "my creativity is the limit", then that is going too far with the "protect the children" bs they're proclaiming to the media and stock holders.

[@jaythepug]

If a false ban ever hits those big youtubers like DanTDM and etc, the backlash will be very big.

[@RaysGamingChannel2003]

Yep

[@theminerooms]

They would probably remove it after a big KZbinr gets hit with a false ban since it’s Microsoft

[@nightmarerex2035]

@@theminerooms problem is peaople who are NOT big youtubers little guys always get fried while big ones let go look at the cocaine in white house if that was me or you we would be SLAMMED but not when its the dictators or the dictators son!

[@VestedUTuber]

@@theminerooms If anything, they'd either just revert the ban or put out some sort of statement trying to uphold it. If it was a smaller company the PR hit would be huge, but for Microsoft even that wouldn't be enough to get them to act because they're too big for that to affect them. Worst case scenario, they just drop the game, fire everyone at Mojang, and go on like it never existed. Microsoft already knows their PR is shit for reasons much worse than this, but they've ingrained themselves so deeply into both the business computing and PC gaming markets that they're basically untouchable without a MASSIVE paradigm shift in both industries.

[@vice-gin]

It shouldn't even require for a big influencer to get hit by it to let them know, they should know that this much restriction is bad in a game about creativity

[@Da_maul]

Sick to death of big corporations turning into petty tyrants and ruining things other people made.

[@tubecrazy3000]

Zero censorship should come from Microsoft. Keep the trust with the players and let people run their servers how they want.

[@gecko2738]

fu ck Microsoft, their an out of touch company run by old fat leftists who don't believe in free speech.

[@TwitchyTopHat1]

Mods will save Java, much to Microsoft's anger

[@glazechunk]

Wouldn’t that be nice.

[@CursedImagesEveryday]

Thank god my Minecraft playtroughs mostly consist of overmoding the game, playing my own world for a few hours getting bored, moding it more until it breaks and then not touching the game again for a few months...

[@Slaymisi]

They should add good bedrock features to java like potions and dyed water in cauldrons and armor stands with hands on survival instead of a moderation system that everyone hates

[@GrimKreeper]

Majang said that when Java and Bedrock come together, Java wouldn't change. But it turned out to bea lie. A big lie.

[@bow_and_arrow]

TRUE

[@notkatsuro]

@@GrimKreeper Not only did it change, it only changed for the worst

[@tyronorxy5646]

An idea to raise Mojang's attention to this issue: Someone (perhaps a youtuber) could organise a server event (simillar to MCC) where they invite as many Mojang employees as they can, and while they're all having fun, tasked non-mojang-employee players mass-report all of the mojang employees and the organiser of the event (so it's not as straight forward that this mass-reporting was organised by the same person who organised the event). They have to acknowledge how flawed this reporting system is, if they experiece it's flaws first-handedly.

[@Amongusaurus]

It would also be funny to see the employees get hit with a bit of reality

[@aeiou0858]

The employees are probably immune tbh

[@zm2737]

@@Amongusaurus isn't Microsoft the one who did this?

[@someguy4512]

"where they invite as many Mojang employees as they can," yeah about that, this decision wasn't made by Mojang but by Microsoft, pretty sure this message should be sent to microsoft employees not Mojang.

[@poppyseed799]

@@someguy4512 to be fair, it would probably still draw attention to Microsoft if the Mojang developers got banned I don’t really think something like this could be pulled off, even for a popular youtuber lol. They’d have to be close to the developers in some way.

[@Zaroni_]

Something else to point out, Some servers have plugins that add things like beer and vodka. The mods could ban someone for saying "Give me some more vodka". Some of the servers I play on are entirely not family friendly in the slightest and someone with a grudge can just come in and report the poeple I play with and boom, they are banned.

[@progamermaster2685]

Let's make mojang pay for ruining the game

[@nicoelevadoados]

@@progamermaster2685 Microsoft*

[@Zaroni_]

@@nicoelevadoados Yes Microsoft.

[@isaiahsimmons5776]

mojangsoft

[@slowjustslowinternet]

I thought that Roblox was bad at falsely banning people, but Minecraft took a turn, now I play Minecraft less because the system requirements and the amount of updates and I have never been banned on Roblox.

[@epicdumy7584]

Microsoft doesn’t seem to care about this type of audience they only care about the younger audience so they push these chat filters on both versions of the game to make it more suitable for younger players but I don’t think they realise that without the KZbin/Streamer audiences there sales will drop significantly more than making the game more suitable for older audiences.

[@GamesbiteRtDL]

They have so much money that it won't even matter to them

[@kimkimpa5150]

@@GamesbiteRtDL Exactly. Microsoft could even operate at huge losses because they're too big to fail at this point, and will get constantly bailed out by the government (i.e. your tax bucks). In fact, government bailout is actually the main implicit business strategy for most big corps today. They don't talk about that openly of course, but the act like it 100%.

[@chronictimewasterdisease]

soon enough you're gonna see a paw patrol Collab in Minecraft

[@kirramcdowell]

You buy the game once, it’s not like you multi buy it so as far as they’re concerned, they got your money, they can now do with you as they please. (We are not talking about people who feel the need to buy it on 50 platforms but your average consumer). That and bedrock is the money maker with its marketplace. Knowing all this, why should they ever be pro consumer? Don’t get me wrong, anything microsoft owns is in my book utter garbage and a matter of time until it sinks. But people keep celebrating when they purchase something so if anyone is to honestly blame, it’s the consumers encouraging them 🤷‍♀️

[@miguelnascimento2847]

@@kimkimpa5150 Not only bailouts, microsoft, google and amazon receive trillions from the US government and effectively work as a branch of the government. That's why they get paid with taxpayer money and have people from former military and government positions working at those companies. The information those companies hold is very valuable so it's no wonder the US government decided to buy them

[@TheCookiePup]

"Trust me, this is a positive move, and nothing you like about Minecraft is going to change." -Dinnerbone (account migration video) You can't tell me he said that without being bribed or metaphorically held at gunpoint.

[@megaman37456]

I think you mean literally held at gunpoint. No dev worth their salt would ever even consider this unless put into a hostage situation.

[@ricedanan]

Honestly the two videos with Dinnerbone about the account migration gave off "being held at gunpoint" vibes. Especially the one with the cape.

[@realPurpleOrb]

They literally threatened his character's bloodflow in the video, if that doesn't hint at them being held at gunpoint, I don't know what does.

[@flow185]

Money flows

[@sahilhossain8204]

Follow the gold and rule

[@limitbreaker909]

If they really want to go through with this then they'd better be prepared to start handing out refunds because as far as I'm aware, taking money then not delivering the promised good or service is theft.

[@darwin3684]

Highly doubt it as they can just add a fine print to the terms of service

[@ww-oi4vw]

@@darwin3684 TOS are not legally binding.

[@darwin3684]

@@ww-oi4vw in that case they'd probably change their refund policies instead

[@darwin3684]

@@ww-oi4vw also my bad, i actually meant EULA or T&C

[@ozordiprince9405]

@@darwin3684 refund policies arent legally binding either. Most countries have consumer protection rights / laws that allow you to sue any company that tries to wrong you

[@MeJustMe101]

And people still wonder why piracy is still a thing. Remember kids, if you dont own it with your own money, its not stealing it.

[@Chainsketch]

There is actually texture packs that can completely disable the profanity filter on bedrock edition, it’s kinda dumb that we would even need a texture pack to do it, but at least it exists

[@_No_Naem_]

Why am I just hearing about this now

[@philipmckrevis5838]

my main issue with this feature is that it downright violates the privacy and autonomy that players have of their own servers. especially given that mojang doesn’t pay the server fees on java like they do on bedrock…

[@epsilonarcaneresearch1945]

Privacy and Microsoft are to words that don't belong in the same sentence. Unless that sentence is "under Microsoft you have no privacy."

[@ktorysktos2225]

That feels so Kafkaesque, almost like in The Trial. You are accused of a crime you didn't commit, all the info about your case is withheld from you and there is no easy way for appeal because 'mods know better'.

[@TechyBen]

Because it is. It literally is. MS has a big pot of money. They want more of it. This is their method to get even more. They care little of anything else.

[@maxwellsterling]

You are accused of a crime you didn't commit; the more you deny, the guiltier they accuse you of being and rebutt with a paraphrasing of "only guilty people get frustrated at injustice and abuse of power, because if you have nothing to hide then you have nothing to get angry about".

[@Liam_Patton]

Take the opportunity to think about how you feel about freedom of speech rights in real life. Do you trust governments to do a better job than this? When bans are actually fines, jailtime, and death?

[@maxwellsterling]

@@Liam_Patton Freedom of speech is a lie, independent of the government existing or not; social ostracism will unfortunately happen wherever there is a black sheep, as the individual is made to either adjust their speech to not disrupt the status quo, or outright leave society.

[@JuanLeon-oe6xe]

@@maxwellsterling Or if you cannot "overcome adversity" you're not Saiyan enough for the Social Darwinists, who very conveniently ignore their own inheritances...