BaoFeng Antenna Side By Side Comparison

There are so many antennas to chose from out there, how do you know which ones are good? Today I sample five, plus the rubber ducky and try to give you a good recommendation.
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[@vailguy99]

You know what this is missing? A spreadsheet comparison of the results at the end. Food for thought.

[@richallcorn]

This is a great idea ... then we'd have no trouble finding these various antennas ... everybody has their personal preference. I personally, would prefer using a smaller antenna vs taking my fly rod with me and looking like I'm going "fishing" with an antenna that drags birds out of the sky when I use my handheld.

[@stickmenwithrayguns]

Good video's & relevant topic. Two things to consider: 1. Antennas and/or radio could be mismatched. => The best antenna for your radio might not be the best for another. 2. Using a radio inside a vehicle will cause interference => Moving the antenna just a tiny bit could change the directivity/beamform significantly.

[@jellybeans6533]

Reminds me of the question from the exam pool: T9A07 (A) What is a disadvantage of using a handheld VHF transceiver with a flexible antenna inside a vehicle? A. Signal strength is reduced due to the shielding effect of the vehicle B. The bandwidth of the antenna will decrease, increasing SWR C. The SWR might decrease, decreasing the signal strength D. All these choices are correct

[@AI5HV]

I appreciate your video showing this comparison. I was glad to see that the choice I made on my antenna purchase form my Baofeng BF-F8HP was spot on for performance.

[@billoftt1]

4:18 "Not an ideal situation." I respectfully disagree. Where you tested IS an "ideal" situation for the average user surfing KZbin looking for some information. None of us here are going to be operating in laboratories, most of us will be around neighborhoods with houses and such.

[@bruhbruh13968]

A boefeng with a good whip is no match for a abandon airforce base

[@counterstrifekid]

I use my radios when I am hunting with a few buddies, and I only have to deal with trees and distance. No houses.

[@andrewe2250]

you're confusing ideal with average

[@samljer]

Agreed, if not a building or two even.

[@madmagrider]

A car acts as a faraday cage and kills the signal.

[@chriswesney]

I've been using the expert power 7 and 14 inch antennas since I bought my radios in 2013. I've never had a problem with them and they work great. One of them even survived my 100 pound Rottweiler eating the radio. I still use the antenna even though the rubber is munched a bit.

[@CoryRwtfyt]

Thanks, for this antenna video. I just purchased my first radio yesterday. The Baofeng BF-F8+ and I'm studying for the technician license in two weeks.

[@RustyShacklefordPocketSand]

Cory R. Have they changed or updated the test? It seems like it was about time for that soon.

[@CoryRwtfyt]

I believe the test will be changing in June.

[@mohammadomariqbal]

how bff8+ is different frm uv5r?

[@pamm2230]

Cory, good luck with taking your first test for technician level. Hopefully by now you've taken and passed. Good luck as you take & pass the other levels. Be sure to visit your local ham radio fests. Every year in May is the largest show 3-day event "Hamvention"™ located now in Xenia, OH at the fairgrounds. This is provided by "DARA" = the "Dayton Amateur Radio Association". There is free testing for all levels, interesting informative and educational seminars, vendors from all over, a flea market area, and is attended by people from all over the world. Hopefully you can attend "Hamvention"™ at least once in your lifetime.

[@bobcatt2294]

@@mohammadomariqbal Good question.

[@erictjones]

You make great videos. I have the 771 and I like its range. The fit up to the BF*-HP at least made me modify a small washer to help stabilize the base and make definite positive contact. I even used a small FINE file to lower part of the shield on the radio. Yes that is the sign of low quality, but I do not mind spending the time tweaking my portable, that is so tiny and light. Thanks for helping out others.

[@Steven-gv1ke]

Please test the NA-24J (UHF / VHF Ultra Light Whip 16.2" High Gain Antenna) against the NA-771. The NA-24J solves the excess mass issue that knocks the radio over. Plus for hiking it does save about a 1/4 lb of weight.

[@KevinLaybourn]

For those who say he should be outside the car and paying attention to polarity, he is trying for worse case scenario

[@HamRadioCrashCourse]

Thank you! 👌

[@dylanlockler1039]

yes

[@dhall5634]

@@HamRadioCrashCourse what is polarity? Hold the unit straight up and down for best signal?

[@hyperfluff_folf]

@@dhall5634 i think holding the antenna horizontal or vertical makes a difference :D

[@ajbulan2029]

@@dhall5634 its the way you hold the radio either vertical or horizontal

[@collinjilbert]

Mine is arriving today and I'm stoked to do a comparison of my own. Thanks for doing this video!

[@bilboXbartok]

i have the Nagoya 771 on my BaoFeng and it works great! I do not care that it is longer! It works much better!

[@ericletts4072]

I think this video was very true to the type of area I use mine in. Thank You very much !

[@macboi7601]

I really appriciate all the work that went into this... thanks dude!

[@johns7734]

I use some Anytone radios for my EMS squad, since the AT-3318 series can do 2-tone paging. They're a lot cheaper than the Kenwoods and work about as well (or as poorly, depending on your point of view). I never realized how badly the stock antennas function. I just ordered a 701C (8" commercial/public safety band) to see if I can reach the dispatch center any better. Thanks for a real-world comparison. 73

[@nandoenk]

this kind of test that needed by everyone. real use/life test!!

[@dakotanorth1640]

Thanks for warning me about the stubby antenna. I questioned them, and you answered. I just acquired a 147-160 Mhz antenna. It's thicker than the stock antenna. I hope to see how well it does on VHF. Right now I can only receive because I'm unlicensed, but that will change.

[@wmudtravis5451]

:Ohj look at this, new antenna?" Glad I am not the only one who notices antennas.

[@gnrfan713]

I've tryed a bunch of different antennas and my favorite is the 8" abbree whip. it performs almost as good as the long antennas but so much more convenient. Just seems to do slightly better on vhf than uhf. abbree 18" folding antenna is really great but bulky i use that for scanning at home. 15.5 abbree is almost as good as the 18"

[@factcheckersbranch]

Interesting video I have a small collection of antennas and have picked up some positive tips from you, thanks for sharing

[@BunsAndGunsCalendars]

Thanks for posting. Unknowingly, I ordered your Nogoya 771 already. We have 4 dozen radios in the box to set up .... 3-4 different MFG's and bandwidths.

[@johnforeman2034]

Add that abbree antenna on that bad boy and run the same test.

[@shampoo1991]

Wow what a MVP you are for putting the winner in the description

[@MrNobody-gi3gj]

I appreciate the content...... still surfing all your videos. Found ya through Glover. Keep up good work

[@taldeus4008]

I have a UV-82, and the Nagoya 771 is amazing. I got it after watching your video. Thank you!

[@carlosfabricioalf]

Awesome. Simple, direct. Thanks bud

[@HamRadioCrashCourse]

Thanks for watching!

[@debohannan4315]

Great video, I see some people can't get a hold of what a comparitve test is . Testing in a vehicle is a good way to see how they compare in normal vehicle use. I find 90% of the antennas on handie talkies have an swr greater than 3:1 so that being the case the low power out is even much lower yet . And yes to some replies you can talk further outside car, same talking out from a small plane at 10000 feet but we normally talk when driving the easiest way we can.

[@HamRadioCrashCourse]

Yes! You got it :D

[@d3w4yn3]

This was really, really helpful!!! Saved me some failures in the field for sure!

[@Marcus2750-u1t]

I love these real world testing, we will never be in perfect conditions so yeah...... ty for your work!!

[@adamant6016]

you say this wasnt very ideal. i think it was a perfect example, cause in real life you will have all the structures and obstacles getting in the way of the signal so this really shows the performance of the different antennas..was this guy also going line of sight or was he using a repeater?

[@HamRadioCrashCourse]

All line of sight.

[@jodypriest9874]

Thanks for this. I've had a MJ long on my list for a while. The longest antenna you have is comparable and $10 cheaper. I just ordered it!

[@demonlust75]

With stock antennas I’m able to hear my brothers baofeng at 5 miles away at about 600’ lower elevation with a mtn ridge between us. He can’t hear me unless I walk up the hill a bit. With the 15.5” laiton we can’t hear each other perfectly.. the longest straight shot range test that we’ve done was at 12 miles with rubber duck antennas with 100% success. I didn’t have the other antennas at that time but I’m looking forward to more simplexing! :)

[@markj1374]

Thanks Josh I just ordered 1 from your link. Now to find a cable on one of your other vids!

[@daveg5520]

Thanks for the work man.... helps us out in the HAM community

[@Podunk82]

i used to use a stubby at work, i programmed my 8hp to work with the radios at work , i used the stubby to restrict my tx range

[@jfrtbikgkdhjbeep9974]

have the common 3 types and a rat tail .. options

[@Blakehx]

Cool test, thanks for sharing! You should do this test again with different homemade antennas!

[@rubyx07]

Thank so much. Lots of good information in here. I've got the Nagoya NA 771 R on UV 82L.

[@kengilcrest8670]

Nice test. I would have liked to have seen you turn the power down on the radio during the test (similar to driving further away). I did a similar test years ago testing whether or not adding a counterpoise to the antenna did anything. And was shocked to find that it made a huge difference.

[@aeromech8563]

I've just ordered a na 771 looking forward to trying it out 🙂 Thanks for all your great work 👌🏻

[@Gnolomweb]

WIth simplex communication using BaoFeng UV-5R on 154.95, The stock antenna preforms better in every condition than the NA-771. Me and my buddy are 1.5 miles apart in the suburbs. (Im new to this, any idea why the 771 is worse for me?)

[@Jimwill01]

I use one of my UV5R's as a monitor. I got an adapter and have it hooked up to a slim-jim that is hanging from the ceiling in my shack. That way I don't have to worry as much about lightening! I have used it to make our ham net when it is storming. In addition, as a monitor it does not draw as much power as a mobile or base rig.

[@tommccaff]

This is a great video and really informative. But I'm wondering how the Nagoya 771 compares to the new Abbree antennas (I have a one-meter one) in an outdoor test just like this one. I saw your other video about the Abbree, but all it shows is metered strength in basically "lab" conditions. Could you run the exact same test with the 771 vs. the longest Abbree antenna with a UV-5R?

[@nickeubanks7675]

Yes I was hoping the abbree was in this test as well.

[@bledsoetx]

May I also point out that discounting the short "stubby" antenna was a bit (shall I say it) short-sighted. First, you were testing on 146MHz where that particular antenna is at it's worst. Had you been in the 70cm band at around 446.000 I believe you would have seen much better results. I use BF-888s radios for low power short range work between the wife and I (she's a Tech, I'm an Extra) and those radios with the exact Diamont SRH805S antennas work great for their purpose. In fact, I can hit and hold a 70cm repeater using the BF-888 and the SRH805S from easily 10-12 miles away.

[@jfrtbikgkdhjbeep9974]

exactly .. thats plenty of range , and the little radios do good on power output

[@kennethhepner2287]

I have the 771, I can hit a repeater 35 miles away on 5 watts with my uv

[@dylanlockler1039]

i can hit a repeater 43 miles away with stock rubber duck antenna uv-5r

[@ctsteve1967]

@@dylanlockler1039 SOUNDS LIKE A DUCK STORY TO ME.

[@dylanlockler1039]

@@ctsteve1967 well it is on top of a huge mountain...

[@jarek0737]

See it all depends on conditions, I believe all of them if you have a good line of sight with the repeater..

[@dylanlockler1039]

i think the repeater is line of sight i cant really see it though

[@johnwallace6763]

I bought the expert power 7.5 after seeing this. I like it so far, it works well and it helps with the top heavy affect that my abbree had

[@mikewolf5367]

Side note: this is a very nice camera video quality.

[@robertedwards741]

Awesome comparison brother! Thank you

[@ritalopiccolo8719]

I just purchased two Baofeng Gt-3wp radios. I installed the Nagoya antennas on them hoping for greater communication range and at 80 ft I was barely able to receive and communicate. I reinstalled the manufactured rubber duckies that came with my radios and got a 2 mile range! I'm sending the Nogoyas back and trying another set of them on my radios.

[@ChristopherGaul]

I have a 771 and a Signal Stick. Would like to have seen the Signal Stick in this otherwise great real world test video. Time to redo and include the Signal Stick and the Abbree? Thx

[@saxmusicmail]

I did similar tests about 8 or 9 years ago. We (another operator listening) were going through a repeater located on a 6 floor building. I drove down the highway and tested every few miles. Passing was good quality voice with full quieting. Noise in the voice was a fail. I didn't have the little stubby, but did test the stock UV-5R antenna, the Expert Power, Nagoya NA-701, and Nagoya NA-771. The stock UV-5R, no surprise here, was the worst one. The NA-701 and Expert Power tied with several more miles down the road. The best was the NA-771. Actual usage, if you clipped the radio to your belt with a NA-771 and looked down at your radio you ran a risk of poking your eye out. I gave that one away. The NA-701 and Expert Power were pretty much tied. At that time the Expert Power did not have a name, we just called it the "NoName". It was cheaper than the Nagoya NA-701, so I actually bought several and still use them.

[@rrrandommman]

Love it man, thanks for the channel and vids like this. Still looking forward to a review of the Signal stick if you get one. 73.

[@nevadabadger7925]

Happy New Year greetings from Reno, Nevada.

[@patgar1956]

Thanks for your info. keep up the good work. cheers from Australia

[@HamRadioCrashCourse]

Thanks for watching!

[@bwc1976]

Glad to see I picked the right one!

[@toysareforboys1]

Awesome comparison!!! Love my NA771 on my F8HP, it's a beast :)

[@davidniemi4051]

Same for me on my UV-5R.

[@GTGallop]

4 Watts on a BF-F8+ with the NA 771 I'm able to talk from N. Phoenix to Mt. Lemmon in Tucson - KK7OEM. It's 115 miles.

[@GTGallop]

Clarification - High Ground to Mountain Top.

[@HamRadioCrashCourse]

Line O sight baby!!!

[@Barracuda48082]

Greg Gallop I will be 65 mi south of Phoenix in 4 days visiting, permanantly in 4 yrs..kb8qlz..

[@jeffsisson2090]

I thought the BF-F8+ was 8 watts...hmm

[@cappazone1807]

@@jeffsisson2090 it has 3 settings 2, 4 and 8w

[@lyfandeth]

Any 19" thin whippy antenna msy work great when you are not moving, but if it whips around at all, the signal also whips in and out like crazy. Use it while you are in motion, and it no longer sounds like a champ.

[@HamRadioCrashCourse]

True. Whips on mobile can be awkward.

[@Natei]

I bought this a couple hours ago without watching this, guess I made the right choice.

[@rkaag99]

Good video! Thank you! Too add to your data... I use the Nagoya NA-320A tri-bander (2M/1.25M/40cm) with my Btech 5x3. At almost 18 inches it is a monster, but the performance is really nice (and you don't have to swap antennas out... Btech ships 2 144/440 & a separate 220) Keep up the good work! 73s -Rob

[@JoeKrol]

Thank you for this!!! Just ordered one.

[@killahjeep]

I bought the NA-771 nagoya cleared up a lot of static on my receptions (can't transmit, not licensed yet, working on it)

[@28ebdh3udnav]

I still transmit on FRS when I travel to the island.

[@Gnolomweb]

WIth simplex communication using BaoFeng UV-5R on 154.95, The stock antenna preforms better in every condition than the NA-771. Me and my buddy are 1.5 miles apart in the suburbs. (Im new to this, any idea why the 771 is worse for me?)

[@alancole1394]

Was the EXPERT POWER used ExpertPower XP-669C 7.5-Inch or ExpertPower XP-771 14.5-Inch. I think it's the 7.5 inch in the test shown. ...? Interested to know what you think about the 14.5 inch if you have time. Thanks in advance. Your videos are excellent. Cheers 🍻👍🍻🖒

[@autofox5.067]

Great video! Great comparison!

[@mazmurnintyone]

very good information, this helps a lot, in the end, the length of the antenna didn't matter. Thanks your video explained it all

[@HamRadioCrashCourse]

The length of the antenna does mater with regards to TX and RX. I didn't saw otherwise in the video.

[@JonGretarB]

I usually have a NA717 on for day to day use. But I also have a NA771 that I just switch out for when needed. The 771 can get a bit unwieldy so I don’t have it on unless I have to. But it’s good to have it.

If you like the 717 (or the 666) you could try the Nagoya 24J, which I've found to be better than all the others. Also the ABBREE tactical one is a nice antenna, but way bulkier.

[@johnsheldon7716]

Any similar review videos for car antennas?

[@DirtRoadie]

@2:50 BNC?

[@FornoDan]

Uv82 is my go to. Love it. Undestructable

[@aprilk141]

You can reverse the destructions?

[@tkflanagan4449]

You my Friend are AWESOME.....Thank You

[@snorman1911]

Problem I have with better antennas on the 5R is I think it picks up other signals on nearby frequencies which deafens the front end. At least that is my assumption, the better the antenna the more weird receive issues I have.

[@gerhardmohrmann]

Jsut a comment why the antenna workd well when folded in Higher frequencies..... the wave lengths are shorter in UHF, thus, shorter antenna becomes more efficient. The tape antennas are very durable, and can last a very long time, but one should never force a tight bend as it will result in a fold in the tape curve and then the antenna is floppy.

[@WaschyNumber1]

Cool info 🖖 How is the Retevis RHD771 antenna and 701 and the stuby one? 🤔

[@modeman69]

I actually like a short antenna like the diamond..... and recommendations on a short stubby antenna that is out now?

[@Rusted_Link]

I was able to talk 1.08 miles on a Baofeng UV-9G equipped with a BaoFeng SRH805S SMA-F SRH805S SMA-F Female Dual Band antenna to a Baofeng UV-5R 8 watt equipped with a Nagaya NA-771G. This was in Florida. In case the viewers don't know Florida is flat. The QSO was in a neighborhood full of homes and trees all in full bloom. The Stubby is a good antenna!

[@a.k.3659]

I don't get it, you are saying you were able to talk 1 mile with a stubby antenna and that makes it good overall? With the stubby you are probably not able to talk more than that whereas with the 771 you could have easily been talking to 2-3 miles more on 2m (VHF)!

[@Rusted_Link]

@@a.k.3659 I understand why you are confused. GMRS is UHF.

[@clovenbeast5183]

I don't know I think it's a perfect experiment because what else are we going to be doing with it Good job man

[@celmer6]

Very interesting. How do these stack up against the flat tape military style antennas?

[@brianogram5194]

Great test, out of morbid curiosity, have you done SWR tests on all of the antennas?

[@HamRadioCrashCourse]

I did! I’ll be working through that data on the next Live stream.

[@cogitoaprendo1017]

Very Nice job on the basic antenna video. Real world tests mean more to me than perfect condition lab tests.

[@c.a.7598]

Excelente video mi hermano, saludos desde Colombia!!! 🙏✌️✌️✌️✌️

[@radionutio81ij79]

That car metal body was attenuating the outgoing signal quite a bit, you should have got out of the car while doing the test. 73

[@HamRadioCrashCourse]

All antennas were subjected to the same harsh environment. This isn’t a distance test.

[@RViscara]

hoshnasi like when you tested all the antennas except one with the window down... hardly a fair comparison

[@GTGallop]

Nissan windows don't have metal in them like GM did for a while. Not an issue. Glass is Radio Transparent.

[@g00glian0]

What is wrong with you goofy fucks!? He clearly explained the purpose of his tests. Wow!

[@mickgatz214]

I was thinking exactly the same thing! ;)

[@dylanmaniatakes]

I have a Luiton NA-771 its a big boy but it seems to be way better than the stock

[@Gnolomweb]

WIth simplex communication using BaoFeng UV-5R on 154.95, The stock antenna preforms better in every condition than the NA-771. Me and my buddy are 1.5 miles apart in the suburbs. (Im new to this, any idea why the 771 is worse for me?)

[@1969tonksy]

Great comparison and informative video, thanks...

[@HamRadioCrashCourse]

Thank you!

[@ryanchase2092]

I love my xpert power antenna. I use a UV-5R with an extended battery and can work a repeater 70.4 miles away and they say that I come in at about a 3-5 depending on where I’m standing in the driveway. I’m down in a hole where I usually work it with trees surrounding but it’s a very big repeater with over 700 people on it daily so that may be giving more props to the repeater than the antenna but I think it works wonders

[@puggster]

A genuine NA 771 is a great antenna for most of the baofeng models. It's Deffo hefty but I can hit the repeaters about 1.2 miles from my home. Whilst inside. Out side easily 5+ miles and hits the repeater. It likes more of a complete vertical position though. So if it's leaning it will degrade the reach. Also if using one as a Base setup. Grounding the Base of the antenna greatly improves reception and transmission when not holding it.

[@richardjames3154]

Going to Amazon and looking up the antennas, I see the expert power XP669C in both the 7.5 inch standard whip and the 14.5 inch long whip. You said longer is better, but Im wondering if this is true for these antennas? The longer "14.5 inch long whip" is about a dollar cheaper than the "7.5 inch standard whip."

[@dondonranada6078]

Between nagoya 717 antenna and tactical antenna. I go for the tactical antenna. Longer range and more clearer voice. Why was not tactical antenna not included in testing

[@293940cabster]

Got two miles down the road from my house the other day with a AR805S. Then went 2.5 miles with my AR771. It was choppy but both were able to transmit and receive audibly

[@tcolondovich2996]

Did you test any of these antennas for SWR on the frequencies you used? I like the comparison, and how you describe physical features of the land, distance, and frequency.

[@gsaldana22]

7:20 Me, driving around any neighborhood. (Noticing radio antennas)

[@oldradionut]

I do the same thing. Glad to see im not the only weirdo!!

[@observationpostcharlie1365]

Great video brother I have a na701 and use it on murs band with a beagang do you think the expert power would be better I mainly use my radio in the deep woods an small hills

[@ashleysleight1016]

Great video, great test" which is the best handheld antenna sorted.

[@jimburianek685]

I work for a railroad, the longer train lengths they have gone to make the rubber duck on the issued Kenwoods ineffective. The NA-771 will allow me to communicate with the head end of my train 2 miles away. It is kind of a pain in the butt constantly poking me in the armpit, but worth it.

[@stierhaushomestead]

So based on the follow-up test where you compare output power to the "TactiCool"ABBREE, do you still think the Nagoya NA-771 (AKA BigKahuna) is better than the ExpertPower? I did notice in this video during the 1-mile test the 771 was sticking out of your window and not in the same postition as the Experpower, but in the 3/4-mile test, they were in a relatively same position. Thoughts?? BTW - I do think this was a well-done comparison of a potentially real-world scenario. So kudos for that and the effort you put into it!

[@dasy2k1]

Interestingly I have found some of the so called dual band antennas for the BF are actually much better on one band than another, oftentimes they are better on 70cm than 2m

[@richallcorn]

I loved the presentation ... Suggested changes: do a test for VHF and a different test for UHF I purposefully avoid VHF (2m) because I have to practically take a fly rod with me (long antenna) to use my radio effectively. However, with a UHF repeater (70cm) I can use a much shorter antenna and get an awesome signal. I can't seem to find the "POWER antenna you were talking about on Amazon ... -rich-

[@HamRadioCrashCourse]

Please review my more recent "Practical testing" videos on antennas.

[@wilsonlee63]

Great, my NAGOYA NA-771 easily out performed my stock radio antenna by 70%. I'm not sure if it's a counterfeit because there's no QR code on it as shown on yours, but this could be a previous version before NAGOYA introduced anti-copy packaging measures. I live in the city & don't noticed an repeaters around, maybe there isn't any as I get almost nothing but static the FM radio station are receiving quite well though.

[@Jimwill01]

If you have an Android tablet or phone you can get "Repeater Book" from the play store that will show repeaters and how far they are from you.

[@RViscara]

I would think you should not be guessing that there are no repeaters in your are merely because you are in a city as that means nothing in regards to repeaters in your area. And you should be looking it up not guessing.

[@georgiano5374]

Wilson Lee , we love you don't do more videos driving. Greatings

[@patrickslevin6424]

I've got the Nagoya 771 on all my HT's. Looks like I stumbled into the right antenna.

[@williamsupnick2450]

I am in traverse city I go all way down two Lansing all granrapits all have done nothing

[@stevepatterson3101]

Hello! Do you have a recommendation for a magnetic vehicle mounted antenna for the UV-5R?

[@FourBinLabs]

I would love to see a follow up test done on UHF Simplex. My understanding is that the stubby diamond is a fake, but from what I have heard, it still has ok 70cm performance. There is a great review on amazon showing tests with a spectrum analyzer supporting this. Also, I noticed that the stock "rubber duck" antenna antenna used was the shorter Baofeng unit. Do you happen to have the slightly longer one that ships with the UV-82? My UV-5x3 and BF-F8+ both came with the slightly longer stock antenna and I'm wondering if spending money on an aftermarket antenna is really necessary.

[@xxM5xx]

YUP. That stubby Diamond is a fake / counterfeit. I have one too. Fake. @FourBinLabs I think the Baofang UV-82 antenna you are referring to is the Baofang model A-V85 antenna. I have the A-V85 also and they are pretty good for xmit and rcv on 2 meter and 70cm. My A-V85 antenna came bundled when I bought a brand new BF-F8+. The genuine NA-771 is a better performer compared to the A-V85. The genuine NA-771 is way longer too so it might be unwieldy at times. I switch antennas depending on what I'm doing. Sometimes the shorter A-V85 antenna is good enough (I'm working close) sometimes I need the range and must switch to the longer Nagoya antenna. The fake / counterfeit NA-771 are bad. This video shows the genuine NA-771. For receive-only (scanner or non-licensed persons who will not be xmitting) the stubby has good receive. By all means, avoid using the fake SRH805S to xmit.

[@FourBinLabs]

Yes, you're right. It is the A-V85 antenna. After watching this video I went out and bought one of those ExpertPower antennas. Works a bit better than the A-V85. While I was shopping, I came across an ExpertPower antenna that is about as long as the NA-771. In testing, I now believe this antenna is also a fake. It looks very similar to the fake NA-771 antennas except it's base has to two linear knurling rings just like the fake diamond antenna. Only difference is that the base (and threads) are all black. Also, when the threads bottom out there is still a gap between the antenna base and the radio. Stay away from this antenna! I tested it, it performs slightly better than the fake diamond antenna, and worse than the A-V85 and real EP standard length antenna. Interesting note, I bought the real and fake EP antennas from the same seller

[@walterwilliams268]

What about those wire whips people add on to base with a ring terminal ?

[@compubyte2010]

Okay is the one below a Better one to use than the 771 series?? it's ONLY $16 Authentic Genuine Nagoya NA-320A Triband HT Antenna 2M-1.25M-70CM (144-220-440Mhz) Antenna SMA-Female for BTECH and BaoFeng Radios

[@amintajjoh5956]

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