People don’t mention how much that slight elbow bend helps in shrugs. Love Mike showing it here.
@nicknesler5 ай бұрын
Thanks, I was wondering about that
@jerryjohnson7363 ай бұрын
@KeithBurtons Recruiting your forearms into the exercise doesn't impede the traps' involvement at all.
@SomerandomShmuck2 ай бұрын
@KeithBurtonsjust tried the exercise. Traps are burning way more than with your “method.” I have a feeling your just mouthing off to seem smart
@howardfairbanks69652 жыл бұрын
When I saw Tom Hardy's traps right before his first fight in the movie Warrior, my jaw hit the floor. What's funny is if you look at the rest of his body, it's not all that astonishingly impressive - but big, thick, peaked, meaty traps can really make a body look imposing and impressive all on their own.
@jfigs16492 жыл бұрын
Traps and shoulders are some of the best responders to gear.
@LL-yf9kp2 жыл бұрын
also he was on gear
@turnbull5242 жыл бұрын
That’s due to gear bud - tell tale sign
@MrMikkeldk72 жыл бұрын
Dont forget the big and girthy neck.
@justmarc20152 жыл бұрын
He just has really good trap insertions.
@andyfatknob94032 жыл бұрын
I've left out shrugs for a couple months honestly and was just about to get back into them. Perfect timing
@AppendixVermiformis2 жыл бұрын
Don't, they are overrated. Just row moar. Meadows, T-bar, barbell, dumbbell, machine, cable, and, not to miss out on, upright row. I have a difficult time deciding which is a worse waste of time, shrugs or front raises.
@PanConides2 жыл бұрын
@@AppendixVermiformis Definitely not overrated, its the best way to build huge traps really
@AppendixVermiformis2 жыл бұрын
@@PanConides If you row enough, you don't need them. If you need them, you don't row enough. Deep stretch, pause, control, grow.
@RenaissancePeriodization2 жыл бұрын
@@AppendixVermiformis agreed. Very few people need shrugs. - Dr. Mike
@danielkanewske84732 жыл бұрын
@@RenaissancePeriodization I need shrugs and a hug because the people on the internet are so mean! Great content Doc!
@Kirall-sx1hc Жыл бұрын
Over a period of 5 year exercising, i obviously managed to grow my traps until a certain point. But never felt a pump or felt confident with the technique i used. Today after 5 years training, i have FINALLY got a bloody pump on them traps. Thanku Doc. 🙏🏼
@coopertime14710 ай бұрын
I love doing them with a low cable and leaning back slightly. They've really made a huge difference
@mikegunz73207 ай бұрын
My favorite variation is setting the bench to 30 or 45 degrees and doing a chest supported dumbbell shrug. The stretch is intense.
@moodynoob2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for going so indepth into WHY you recommend a technique, it really helps in understanding and remembering this stuff!
@howardfairbanks69652 жыл бұрын
One tip I would like to throw into the hat from my personal experience is that Myorep shrug work has been amazing for me personally. Once you finish a set, holding the weight in that deep stretched position as Dr Mike talks about for 5 seconds before hitting another set of Myoreps, taking a break and leaving it in that deep stretch position and then hitting another set of myoreps.. Doing that a few times and by the god of Broden the stimulus is unreal
@Osama-Bon-Jovi-012 жыл бұрын
What are Myoreps? Sounds brutal though
@robertdowney59372 жыл бұрын
@@Osama-Bon-Jovi-01taking very low rest times and continuing the set with the same weight
@nuttrubersrevenge2 жыл бұрын
Myorep is an intensity modifier. If I am going to do a myorep set, I will do X amount of reps for my first working set. Then I would aim to get the same amount of reps within my next 1 or 2 sets, but I will shorten the rest time between sets by about 50-75% depending on the muscle I'm training. Let us say I am aiming for 25 reps on the Pec Dec, but due to the shorter amount of rest since my first set, I will probably only get 12-15 reps before the lactic acid is too painful to continue. I will then rest between a very short amount of time, ie. Less than 10 seconds before I pump out more reps, repeating this until I hit my goal amount of reps.
@RenaissancePeriodization2 жыл бұрын
Dude, same same, especially if you have VersaGripps to not be held back by grip! - Dr. Mike
@howardfairbanks69652 жыл бұрын
@@RenaissancePeriodization Ain't that right. I was actually just going edit mine and add that my grip will fail to quickly doing myoreps, so I have to use Versa grips. And I've used all sorts of different grips, but the Versa grip Pro with the extra rubbery feel locks them in and allows me to rest with the weight sort of above my knee. Without grips no way I could do more than a straight set.
@madsbruntt71452 жыл бұрын
I literally just did shrugs, so I'm a bit annoyed at the timing but grateful for the superb advice :D Edit: i always have trouble feeling my traps in barbell shrugs, so i looked up to see if there was a video about said subject with Mike, i bike home, and this video got released 😩
@1brunner6992 жыл бұрын
Luckily you have a workout next week…
@madsbruntt71452 жыл бұрын
@@1brunner699 yeah and you betcha I'm looking forward to rewatching this video and feeling my traps 😂
@RenaissancePeriodization2 жыл бұрын
Sorry we didn't post it a day early! - Dr. Mike
@danielkanewske84732 жыл бұрын
@@RenaissancePeriodization Voted #1 on KZbin for the worst timing! I needed this content 20 years ago not now that Im 45 ...
@jaybird03122 жыл бұрын
Dude same here! First video that popped in my feed right after I got home from the gym. C'maahhhnnn. Lol
@RagingOatmeal10 ай бұрын
Cant wait to try this. My traps explode with minimal work but because I always went heavy I would get the worst hypertension headaches to known to man
@vinnyrivera485 Жыл бұрын
Single handed let the best video for locking down the technique for barbell shrugs! 💯🙏
@Anom5972 жыл бұрын
Hey Dr Mike, this channel has been SO valuable to me as I learn to lift. You've probably heard this request before, but I'm sure many of us would appreciate if you labeled chapters. I've watched enough of these to recognize the common threads, and I'd like to be able to jump straight to the next step.
@RenaissancePeriodization2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. We'll definitely give that some thought! - Dr. Mike
@unaizabaletaaldaz34352 жыл бұрын
@@RenaissancePeriodization that would definitely be helpful! It can be organised in playlists too. Thanks for you work ❤
@masturchief2 жыл бұрын
I stopped training traps because I’m far too lazy/ it’s too tiring to fetch every plate in the gym to shrug, and it never really did all that much. Time to make some real gains with mike!!
@kurasaki812 жыл бұрын
That makes no sense. You could just pick up 70kgs bb 😂
@masturchief2 жыл бұрын
@@kurasaki81 idk, A lot of people can easily shrug 400-500lbs or more in the standard way people do them. I’m one of those people.
@karlfernandes13672 жыл бұрын
Just start shrugging the squat rack with all the plates on them 💀💀
@tallpaul694 ай бұрын
So why you watching a Shrug video?😂
@masturchief4 ай бұрын
@@tallpaul69 because I wanted to make them effective. Since watching this video, the trap gains have been immense and I am getting better workouts. Mike’s videos are good quality and you can always learn something!
@CrossFit-Carnivore3 ай бұрын
Love the humor. So no rolling motion. Got it! Loved Warrior the movie.
@D.-NeverGoBack-2 жыл бұрын
You are the man Mike. Do this for every exercise.
@qv80752 жыл бұрын
Doctor mike to you
@D.-NeverGoBack-2 жыл бұрын
@@qv8075 how do you know my relationship with him cur
@sn0lder2 жыл бұрын
im gonna barbell shrug until i turn into a frog
@antoniogordon60076 ай бұрын
😂
@thsstphok79373 ай бұрын
hahahhahda this why I love internet
@SomerandomShmuck26 күн бұрын
Gorilla would be a cooler choice
@illestdomer20052 жыл бұрын
And don’t forget neutral grip with a trap bar or DBs. Great tips. Snatch grip on shrugs definitely elicits more of a response for me in the mid traps.
@themadmonk63792 жыл бұрын
I don’t know if I have seen Dr. Mike make those type of faces before. Must be good. Tomorrows workout is getting an addition
@tzahi123702 жыл бұрын
Traps is one of your best body part for sure! they lifting the shirt up nicely, I love upper traps .. for me I like rack pull to really stretch them under heavy load and then mix it with regular shrugs full ROM.
@zuhairyassin5052 жыл бұрын
Hands down one of the best fitness channels on this platform
@nicholasdonin14652 жыл бұрын
Mike's the first who taught me about the focus on the eccentric stretch. I've always been a ROM focused guy but never beyond 90 on my joints. The stretch, mainly with pull downs, straight leg dead and incline presses has made a discernible difference on experienced DOMS and amount of weight needed for sessions.
@Sam-pr6oe2 жыл бұрын
LOVE the bent over shrugs. Those and vertical rows are what I credit with fixing my shoulder muscular imbalances that were causing me issues. The trap is a fucking wild muscle that does so so so so many things it’s mindblowing
@PseudoJuju10 ай бұрын
so good. was doing heavy (155lbs) shrugs around 10-12 reps. went down to 95lbs and immediately noticed the difference
@sharks408n2092 жыл бұрын
I broke my left femur and won't be able to hit legs until March the soonest so operation Johnny Bravo is in full effect can't wait for the specialization videos for the lower body to drop so I can plan for Operation Thunder Thighs!
@justtango4741 Жыл бұрын
I do shrugs with a hex bar. I sometimes use that forwards lean and that feels good too. It's the weighted stretch at the bottom that fatigues the traps.
@ParvParashar Жыл бұрын
Really loved the video! Excellent work. Everything is so well explained. Appreciate the phenomenal reasoning behind using the recommended technique, rest times and rep range. This is super high quality comprehensive information. Thank you so much! 💪🙏👍
@ohkshit85002 жыл бұрын
I recently tweaked my back post a heavy set of shrugs. Was a little traumatized. This video really helps, going to hit them soon with lesser weights.
@jjohns172 жыл бұрын
I've worked with the bent over and wide grip technique for a few months and love it! I had to go way lighter, but like you mentioned, it takes the axial load off and gives me a much better SFR. I haven't tried the big stretch at the bottom, but am definitely giving it a shot! Thanks for the great video Dr. Mike & RP!
@likemy2 жыл бұрын
trying to hold at the top (particularly with a wide grip) is also a great cue to maximize time under tension
@AntiFreeze2022 жыл бұрын
I love doing this with a trap bar - really nice!
@dhlong16976 ай бұрын
2:44 "emphasize bottom' gave me a woody mike
@TSB432 жыл бұрын
I stopped deadlifting cuz I was lifting heavy in march. Recently I’ve noticed how my traps have atrophied since. Disheartening and eye opening. I appreciate the video this video for the tips and knowledge. Definitely gonna try your technique out.
@ce85392 жыл бұрын
Grateful for another dope vid, thanks RP team
@lucasvarley97642 жыл бұрын
I love this video! Super inspirational and helpful. I'm curious, have you ever heard of Next Level Diet? I got a personalized muscle-building meal plan from them and I love it.
@DavidDavis3112 жыл бұрын
As I’ve gotten older I’ve went lighter on everything and spend my time focusing on mind muscle connection. I only wish I knew how much better this years ago. There’s a place for heavy lifting but it isn’t for most people.
@Zka77-e1f3 ай бұрын
I bend over slightly to 1) avoid dicking the bar 2) that pose helps a LOT to actually pull my shoulders a bit backwards - this helps target the muscles so much better. Elbow bend is also necessary, you can't pull a larger weight upwards properly without that bend.
@RiskyNickNate7 ай бұрын
Thanks Doc! I tried these out today and I now have a new found love and fear of shrugs! Haha
@OPXPM2 жыл бұрын
I really needed to hear this. Thank you!
@zsoltkiss-szekely81372 жыл бұрын
thank you doctor.this was yet another eye opener
@brianc94302 жыл бұрын
I pretty much do my traps like this already. I get ego tempted at times to go heavy, but realized I hit them way better with lighter weight and slower with greater ROM. Nice to see an expert (who I respect) confirm to me that I am rad! Thanks Dr Mike! 💪🏼👍
@domepiece112 жыл бұрын
My direct trap work is heavy KB holds with straps, like 5 sets of 1-1.5 min. I get an incredible stretch without the neck aggravation I get from shrugs.
@tylercunningham4311 Жыл бұрын
I've been doing trap bar shrugs with only 195 for 12-15 reps, but super strict, hold the pause. Obviously wanting to go heavier but it's amazing how much it humbles you when you try to have perfect form.
@pbx72572 жыл бұрын
Did this by accident! Lifting heavy on barbell shrugs and decided to take plates off until failure. Started shrugging to raise above my belly button (had to get around my belly too btw 😅) with lighter weights. Traps are sore af today. I like to play around and try different things and it’s nice when it works. Glad I saw this video to validate the technique further.
@redcyric12222 жыл бұрын
Thank you for all the videos and great advices!
@hey_zee_ree6942 жыл бұрын
lol love how mike showing off the shreds every time he shrugs showing his vtaper
@jasonz1771Ай бұрын
I don't go above 70lb dumbells or 225 barbell. Slowing it down and controlling it adds up quick. I also do 1 min rest periods. High volume and low rest sucks at first but my ability to recover is rediculous now. Variety is huge but rather than doing variations that hit the same fibers you need to vary the angle to hit mid and lower traps just like varying angles for upper mid and lower pecs. I focus on lower and mid traps and proof is in the puding.
@RussDRocking1012 жыл бұрын
A lot of these movements are following Olympic lifting protocols as there is a snatch grip and clean grip shrug progression exercises that are built into some programming. Additionally the second pull for clean and snatch really incorporates traps too. The biggest take away for me here is forcing your traps down at the bottom of the movement. I've never considered that and I'm definitely going to try it.
@kyleinwisc2 жыл бұрын
Oly work is super demanding of the traps through a full range of motion. Probably just too fatigue inducing and abusive to the rest of the body for RP to suggest for bodybuilders.
@Chancho1987 Жыл бұрын
The man Dr Mike dropping Gems 💎 👌 straight fire dooooooooodddde
@Fatfrogsrock2 жыл бұрын
Not convinced as it goes against what i've learned before, but gonna try it out for myself, cheers!
@Penzig10 ай бұрын
I found upper traps to be really hard to target. For reference I'm a skinny dude who comes from "no muscle", but trained everything else for many years. For me to get really into targeting my traps, I found success with a lot of the tips in this video - such as using lighter weights, arms out from your body, and then something similar to "leaning forward". At least I think the effect is similar: Instead what I did was kind of begin the movement as if doing a row - bringing the shoulders back pretty much as far as they go, and then changing the direction of the pull to 'up' as opposed to 'back', with que's such as "bring elbows back and then lift them up as far as you can". Doing this really SLOW also helped a lot. I also spent a lot of time just holding the contraction at the top, and try and feel out the muscle. Some good ol mind muscle connection. Now after some months, I am having much less trouble connecting with my traps and I can manage with simpler shrug variations if I want to. But I must say I'm still favoring the pull-to-upright-row kinda movement pattern. I'm sure It would be slighty more effective having a strictly 'up' pattern if I was a bit better at it, but that's not the best move for me (yet). And I am seeing results with what Im doing now, so :D
@leecourtney12252 жыл бұрын
I very rarely do shrugs but agree light weight with as big a ROM as poss and high rep is the way. However, I personally feel that no matter how good I get my technique for isolation down on rows, pullups, side laterals etc etc my traps are getting a ton of work, then again I am always going for a lean, muscular athletic build, not a bodybuilder physique and kind of think the massive trap thing (especially with gear) kind of looks ridiculous. Suppose you could say the same with arm training to be fair but enjoy training them 😅, bit whatever anyone says my biceps get waay more growth from chin-ups than any curl
@TheGreektrojan2 жыл бұрын
I'll disagree with that. Big traps are a way to make your shoulders look broader (even if they are not) and they fill out a shirt fantastically. If you are going with an 'athletic' look, basically de-emphasize chest/back. Not ignore but the super big upper body is what usually makes a bodybuilder look different than a standard 'athlete.' But most people get good enough traps with all the pulls so its not a point of emphasis.
@leecourtney12252 жыл бұрын
@@TheGreektrojan you don't really disagree though what I said is that the traps get enough volume from the pulls (and even pushes) and its only if you want 'oversize traps' that shrugs in particular benefit. I train full body so not anti shrug per se just way better exercises I can put in my program in place. I do get it though if your traps are a weakness can definitely hinder shoulder stability and compromise all upper body lifts. Again though I suspect that usually comes from waay too much volume for chest over back and really as the whole back has over 3 times the muscle as the chest it should receive 3 times the volume. But even I am guilty of over training chest as who doesn't love chest work?
@rmay711846 ай бұрын
I definitely feel like I connect to the shrug better when I bend over slightly, also can do a mechanical drop and go upright when you tire out from being bent over
@23ADJ932 жыл бұрын
God tier content. Speciba and toda rabba dr Mike!
@eliotfuchs44802 жыл бұрын
Great tips, Dr. Mike. One more tip to consider -- I find that if I keep my chin up, i.e., eyes up looking toward the ceiling in front of me -- it can be a good cue to get a full range of motion. If I keep my head down, I fool myself into thinking I did a full shrug by dipping my head down into my traps, instead of bringing the weight up to my head with my traps. Furthermore, I think it may help get a better stretch on the traps in the fully lengthened position at the bottom. Thanks for your work and great content! 👍
@BoshSoldierCarp Жыл бұрын
Watching this series has shown me I'm ego lifting without out knowing it on neatly everything. Time to cut the weight right back in my next meso
@apoilgun83422 жыл бұрын
amazing tips ! I've been doing shrugs with high-rep, full range of motion and slow eccentric and it damn works much better than the heavy chicken dance style. I'd also add at that least for me, dumbbell shrugs hits a bit better to my traps due to the chance to stretch 'em more at the bottom. definitely worth to give it a try !
@KenanTurkiye2 жыл бұрын
Go use a standing calve raise machine and try your traps rather then your calves. You might like it.
@camiloduartemusic20529 ай бұрын
Amazing tips💪🔥as always Doc Mike
@theswede54022 жыл бұрын
Been doing this twice a week for nearly 2 years so this was helpful, i def go pretty heavy in general.
@jamesfoster68902 жыл бұрын
Yeah Tom Hardy had some monster traps in that movie Warrior. My girlfriend always wants to watch it for some reason 🤔
@antarc7592 ай бұрын
What reasons?
@LeagueRandomPlayer2 жыл бұрын
OH DR I NEEDED THIS! Been struggling doing light 4x15 and full ROM side rises combined the top ROM also hits traps like hell, but ill go with the rest time and technique today and see how it feels!
@edwardburgess588910 ай бұрын
Thank you Dr. Mike. You’ve helped correct all the bad techniques I learned in the 80’s. I use your guidance to train my son. Truly Appreciative
@pannonianfit15822 жыл бұрын
I like to do shrugs with dumbbells, yea I know less weight but I can retract and elevate my scapula with great range of motion without my neck get in the way because I can push it forward
@yallyall43862 жыл бұрын
These tips really help! Thanks
@Zerel2 жыл бұрын
For some strange reason, I've always had trouble getting a strong mind/muscle connection with my traps. Experimenting with the stretch in the bottom position as demonstrated here absolutely fixed that. I don't know if the day will ever come when I need that much direct trap work, but now I know what to do if I do. Thanks for sharing this insight.
@CJHan2 жыл бұрын
First tip: Don't go heavy. Tell that to fuckin 95% of people I see doing shrugs in commercial gyms, loading up 3 plates and doing ½ of a ¼ rep.
@ericknunez80692 жыл бұрын
in the smith machine because why not
@frasler12 жыл бұрын
I've always preferred using a hex bar over a straight bar for shrugs.
@BigRam20102 жыл бұрын
Super set. Barbell shrugs/ dumbbell shrugs / farmer walks =1 set . Repeat for a total of 3 set's.. talk about fried!!
@ImZyker Жыл бұрын
thank you for the tips, that shirt looks very good
@b34k3r510 ай бұрын
That t-shirt is awesome. Bring it back for sale!
@Man_About_Town_2 жыл бұрын
Big Mike Vanwyck shows a variation as well that is very similar. Love when there is continuity in the folks I look to for ideas/guidance.
@MeliorIlle Жыл бұрын
Watching these videos just makes me be even more impressed with Dorian Yates. He really was the GOAT. Didn't have the best shape, made up for that with impeccable form with extremely heavy weights. So impressive.
@lawrencereid34572 жыл бұрын
Great video. I will try that. Thanks.
@trialsandtribulations71812 жыл бұрын
I've never been a big fan of the typical bb shrugs. I do shrugs in every other direction, overhead shrugs, hanging shrugs, leaning rest shrugs etc.... I think most of my grap growth came snatch grip DLs & high pulls, and heavy carries.
I know this is not very traditional, based on evidence method, but I found that my traps really started to grow from snatching, especially the high pull accessory. Which I'd describe almost as cheat shrug since you contact with hips and you pull the hands almost shoulder level (great stimulus for delts at the same time). I don't know if it works as well for advanced bodybuilders obviously, but for less experienced it's a killer.
@TheoneD112 жыл бұрын
Thanks RP!
@goldenpondrvpark16372 жыл бұрын
Superset these with some super full rom lateral raises and you'll conquer the world with your traps!
@Bjorn_R2 жыл бұрын
Nice timing. Been focusing on my lacking traps and upper back due to problems with shoulder impingement. Hope it helps
@floridamanHooning2 жыл бұрын
I need this, my nephew who just started lifting already has genetically better traps than me... I won't be sharing this video lol
@ajsullyvincennes2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Been lifting for years too heavy. Sets of 10 and 6
@shaleel2 жыл бұрын
I've never done shrugs, besides just messing around once in awhile like doing George Leeman's program. I'm sure they'd be fine eventually, but I feel like it's counter productive to keeping my shoulders where I want them to be.
@dagothodros6412 жыл бұрын
This is a must have exercise for anyone who wants to build a god tier physique
@shaleel2 жыл бұрын
@@dagothodros641 luckily I am just a dude and not a competitive bodybuilder. My traps are not bad tho from genetics + deadlifting. I'd be way better suited using the time for arms and shoulders, physique wise. Also, I have concerns about the prevalence of sleep apnea among big neck'd body builders.
@leecourtney12252 жыл бұрын
@@shaleel I agree with you 100% shrugs are a bodybuilder technique and they get plenty of work from rows, side laterals etc have no desire to basically have traps that are waaay out of proportion. I get it its a desirable look for a body builder, but I think it looks odd. They can be fun to do but most of my trap work is for stability and shoulder health rather than for hypertrophy.
@greenpighunter693010 ай бұрын
Excellent. Check is in the mail.
@hefferonjoe2 жыл бұрын
i needed this
@KenanTurkiye2 жыл бұрын
I don't like rounded traps, rather prefer long prominent ones, that's why I prefer exercises that mostly work the 'outer section' of the top traps, closer to the shoulders not the neck. I know I know some will say that isn't possible, but yeah there's 8 billion people in the world, so.
@davidec.40212 жыл бұрын
After a meso of no trap and very little bicep (RP 3xweek full body 😘 amazing meso btw) i’m going into the next meso with traps and biceps focus to finish off the 2 standard hypertrophy phases. This is gonna come in handy, especially because the w.o. get long and hard and I didn’t feel like “wasting” too much energy on these
@RenaissancePeriodization2 жыл бұрын
Yeah man, you have to have a good reason to do shrugs if you're gonna take the time and effort! - Dr. Mike
@juanyanik7715 Жыл бұрын
You got me at 'Tom Hardy Warrior workout'
@stoicmadi970422 күн бұрын
... Yates row is my go-to trap exercise ...
@kingaltondodson5076Ай бұрын
Dr.Mike You are awesome . Honor me by letting me please you 🙏🙏
@alexisdelgado9876 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Kurt Angle! 🫡 ✊
@dashcamcalifornia50032 жыл бұрын
Dr Mike the bottom is always going to be the tough part. 😂
@sircefiro2 жыл бұрын
I find the leaning slightly forward works well & on the last rep hold it at the top & at the bottom, usually about 12 reps although will try lighter, don't do the super heavy shrugs aka chin downs
@masterwmatrix2 жыл бұрын
4:00 so wristwraps or no? Or did you mean lifting straps?
@limitisillusion72 жыл бұрын
Power Cleans were always by go to trap exercise. I think catching bar on the way down does a lot of damage.
@cocothela824 ай бұрын
I injured my shoulder / neck doing heavy shrugs 6 months ago, hoping this is a way i can get back to training shrugs without so much danger of injury in the future