Bark River Magna-Cut vs 3V Edge Retention Test.

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Mountain Life

Күн бұрын

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@MADHIKER777 5 ай бұрын

3V is a great steel for an outdoor knife! My favorite!

@MountainLife1 5 ай бұрын

I agree. Thanks for watching and commenting.

@ThirdoptionJCSU 3 ай бұрын

CPM3v is like a jeans and leather jacket never gets old.

@dlrmon1 5 ай бұрын

Interesting, I should do the same to see how it compares. I have noticed my Magnacut blade gets a real foggy or hazy look to the steel compared to my 3V...

@MountainLife1 5 ай бұрын

If you do test it, I'd like to know the results. You seem to be getting the same performance as me when it comes to Magna-Cut vs 3V. My 3V does not patina as bad or fast as Magna-Cut. Thanks for watching and commenting.

@dlrmon1 5 ай бұрын

I’ll attempt to do a video. I’ve Been wanting to compare Bark River’s A2, 3V, Cruware, S35vn, S45vn and Magnacut to see how they all compare...I also have those steels in Sabre ground V-edge blade’s from multiple brands. Would be interesting to see the results. I’ll be sure to let you know..

@MountainLife1 5 ай бұрын

Thanks! I'm looking forward to it.

@JonJon-ey8ns 3 ай бұрын

Great review! Thanks!

@MountainLife1 3 ай бұрын

@@JonJon-ey8ns You're welcome.

@snesleywipessqueegeeservices 5 ай бұрын

Perfect Sunday morning viewing. A nod towards the inestimable Pete and Cedric and Ada here, done mountain style. Where are you located brother? Top video Sir. Have a great day.

@MountainLife1 5 ай бұрын

I got the idea to cut the rope from Cedric and Ada, and Dutch Bushcraft Knives. I'm in Western North Carolina. Thanks for watching and commenting.

@MaximumFatness 5 ай бұрын

@@MountainLife1heck yeah! Me too! West of Asheville

@gilbertopadilla3611 Ай бұрын

Bark River says Peters HT does their heat treat for magnacut. There is likely nothing wrong with the steel. Sharpen it a few times and see if the performance improves. Bark River power grinds their blades and it leaves the edge weaker than what it should be. You have to sharpen them a few times to get into the "good steel".

@MountainLife1 Ай бұрын

@@gilbertopadilla3611 You may be right. I guess only time will tell if the performance improves. So far, the knives are cutting well, holding an edge about like 3V, and are easy to sharpen. They are good, but not better than 3V so far. If you are right, they may get better with age. Thanks for watching and commenting.

@gilbertopadilla3611 Ай бұрын

@@MountainLife1 I hope you keep us all updated. Great videos.

@shroomsrus5116 Ай бұрын

You say there’s nothing wrong with the steel, then contradict by saying they power grind and leave the edges weak

@gilbertopadilla3611 Ай бұрын

@@shroomsrus5116 there's a good possibility there is something wrong with the steel near the edge because it's thin and power grinding thin steel could cause it to heat up quickly and lower the performance. So there is nothing wrong with most of the steel. I hope that's specific enough for you.

@bazzzker 5 сағат бұрын

You can wrap that rope with paper tape so it won't unravel

@Glockenstein0869 27 күн бұрын

I have over 400 knives, 12 of them are magnacut. As it relates to edge retention, I do not see much , if any difference compared to knives made with S35V and even 3V.

@jesusisthelivinggod1791 3 ай бұрын

Joh 3: 16 Amen

@richardhenry1969 5 ай бұрын

I believe 14c28n when heat treated properly is just as good as these expensive steels. I personally believe super steels are just marketing. 3v ive had really didn't have the retention everyone raved about. I haven't tried magnacut but it doesn't do anything for me. I prefer carbon steel and 14c28n does very well for a 1/3 of the price.

@MountainLife1 5 ай бұрын

I've actually been using AEB-L the most lately, which is very similar to 14C28N. I haven't tested the edge retention, but it has been performing well. Thanks for watching and commenting.

@Swearengen1980 2 ай бұрын

So you're making a blanket statement out of ignorance because you're poor, got it. Magnacut is worth the money and it's light years ahead of 28n in most applications. 28n is fine for an EDC, you can touch it up often. The pure shit edge retention for field work or hunting makes it worthless. 28n can't make it through one hide of a buck before it's useless. I can do a couple bucks, skinned and fully processed, without touching up the blade with magnacut or cruwear. It entirely depends on the task. Bushcraft, right now I'd go with the new AEB-L PSB-27 that LT Wright is using on the Genesis. But again, that's also more expensive.

@bazzzker 5 сағат бұрын

Sure, leaf steel is the best steel why bother

@kanukkarhu 5 ай бұрын

I have 3v but no magnacut. I don't have enough time in with the 3v to say, but I hear it's a great knife steel. I don't see myself paying to try the magnacut.

@MountainLife1 5 ай бұрын

I only have experience with Bark River Magna-Cut, and I prefer 3V over it. Some other knife brands may have better Magna-Cut. I just have to go by my own experience with the two types.

@christopherlarson7579 5 ай бұрын

What if the Magnacut and 3v are actually the same steel just labeled differently 😂?

@MountainLife1 5 ай бұрын

The 3V has been performing differently than the Magna-cut. 3V seems to be doing better when it comes to corrosion resistance. Thanks for watching and commenting.

@christopherlarson7579 5 ай бұрын

@@MountainLife1 that’s so strange. Wasn’t Magnacut supposed to be more corrosion resistant than 3v though?

@MountainLife1 5 ай бұрын

@@christopherlarson7579It was supposed to be. That was the whole reason Magna-Cut was invented. Some makers seem to be getting better performance. Maybe it has to do with heat treatment.

@Btc1ml 2 ай бұрын

So 3v and magna is the same blade? One isnt better than the other?

@MountainLife1 2 ай бұрын

From everything I've been hearing about magna-cut in general, it should be better than 3V. However, with Bark River magna-cut, 3V seems to be just as good. That's all I can tell you because that's the only magna-cut I have experience with. Thanks for watching and commenting.

@Swearengen1980 2 ай бұрын

@@MountainLife1 The problem is not all magnacut is equal. A lot of companies haven't perfected the heat treat. Which is better depends on the brand and task. 4" and under, I'd go magnacut (it does have better edge retention) - If you get an MKC or equivalent. Larger knives that would be choppers/survival knifes, the edge retention is less important and you may want the extra toughness of 3V.

@realitycheck4296 Ай бұрын

Do a rust test, maybe bark River pulled one of their old switcheroos and they are the same steel 🧐

@MountainLife1 Ай бұрын

@@realitycheck4296 I did. See these videos: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e5yzh6p5n92Mircfeature=shared and kzbin.info/www/bejne/eZuXkKSfjt-goqcfeature=shared

@Btc1ml Ай бұрын

Doesnt magnacut chip or break easier than 3v?

@MountainLife1 Ай бұрын

@@Btc1ml All things being equal, 3V is a couple of degrees tougher than magna-cut, so it should hold up better than magna-cut. I've watched people on video cut nails and such with both, but I saw a magna-cut knife break on video where a 3V probably would not have been phased. I'd like to have a Carothers 3V with Delta heat treat, but they are hard to get.

@11saje82 15 күн бұрын

@@MountainLife1 3V is two times tougher than magnacut. See knife steel neerds

@MountainLife1 12 күн бұрын

@@11saje82 Knife Steel Nerds is where I got my data to start with. He has 3V at 9 toughness and Magna-cut at 7 toughness. That is two (a couple) of degrees difference. To be two times as tough, 3V would have to be a 14 on the toughness scale.

@Swearengen1980 2 ай бұрын

Bark River doesn't have great results with magnacut. I've seen a lot of reports of chipping and not living up to the reputation. I have 5 magnacut blades and the one I'd bet my life on the 2 MKC. They've perfected it. It holds it's edge no matter what longer than big name brand magnacut. It's edge retention is well beyond the BK76 Limited Edition, Reiff, or Bradford. I can't speak for Bark River, but it's something to be aware of. Many are jumping on magnacut, but that doesn't mean they do it right. Definitely avoid magnacut from mass producers like Benchmade, their magnacut is not good.

@MountainLife1 2 ай бұрын

@@Swearengen1980 Thanks for the information. Lately, I had looked at a Benchmade in Magna-cut, because I have one in S90V and like it so far. I'll definitely look into Montana Knife Company. I hadn't really heard how their magna-cut is until your comments, and I have only had Bark River magna-cut. I do have LT Wright AEB-L and PSB-27. So far, these steels from LT Wright are working fine. My AEB-L are large knives and the PSB-27 are small knives.

@Swearengen1980 2 ай бұрын

@@MountainLife1 The MKC story is pretty impressive, what he accomplished at such a young age. Once I tried the Stonewall Skinner in magnacut for a buck, there was no going back. I was looking into the Benchmade water series, but the longer it's out, a lot of reports of the heat treat not being accurate/too soft. Not as tough as magnacut should be. The LTW Genesis in PSB-27 is my next purchase, if I can find one in stock. People are all over that one.

@chancethe9374 4 ай бұрын

I can't believe the barkriver. They put the wrong label on the knife and the qc is a mess. Just because they sell magnacut, we don't know if it's real magnacut

@littlewoody5539 2 ай бұрын

It happened to me Miss label their steel