60% of EV Drivers selling their Electric Vehicle are going back to an ICE car today

[@kmack5799]

I deliver EVs every day so I can tell you why they are being sold after just a few months and it's because they are utter shit!

[@Trumpisanong]

Every EV owner I know in Australia couldn't be happier, where do you get your info? Your claim that they are being sold after just a few months is absurd. We have a whiny anti EV KZbinr guy from the UK here in Australia, he makes the same factually incorrect noises to Aussies. The only Aussies who believe him are those without an EV. Those who have an EV are extremely happy. Is it a cultural or genetic thing where people from the UK are frightened of EV's?

[@andrewwaller5913]

​@@TrumpisanongEVs are shite. Nobody is interested in spending 60k on a milkfloat that doesnot go anywhere. Diesel is far superior.

[@budimpla]

@@Trumpisanong, fanatic lyer. Every person I know that bougth an EV, kept his ICE. The most defender of EVs, who promisse to by another EV, didn't. He bought a diesel, instead.

[@ryanfacer]

I just sold my Tesla Model 3 to return to ICE. A big eye opener for me was when Toyota refused to take it as part exchange. They said they don’t take electric cars as part exchange even their own model. Nobody wants them.

[@BarrieCrampton]

Wow

[@GregPodster133]

Thanks for your comments. Evs have a place, but are not for everyone. 👍

[@BarrieCrampton]

@ that’s true

[@EwanM11]

Out of curiosity, why did you sell? What did you end up getting?

[@Ian-ks9fo]

If nobody wanted your car, how did you sell it?

[@paulnewman9275]

We came with 1% of capacity of massive blackouts last week ...sun not shining ,wind not blowing (other than out of Mlliband's arse). We had to fire up emergency gas power stations costing millions of pounds per hour. That's with about 2-3% of cars on the road being EV's ... and they want us all to have them ( well they don't really as the ultimate goal is to remove private car ownership) and heat pumps - laughable.

[@Ian-ks9fo]

If you replace wind with gas, you will still get the emergency gas power station charging the same amount. They charge that much as they sit there, not used most of the time, waiting for your so called emergency to occur.

[@paulnewman9275]

@Ian-ks9fo So called emergency? Are you a " bury my head in the sand" person ? ..no power is quite an emergency for most. The answer is neither ,it's always been a case of ,for now , nuclear is the only alternative. Wind turbines are useless and in an average 20 year life they don't even offset the carbon emitted to build and install them! Solar panels are ok when it's sunny but are becoming the world's second biggest source of waste after plastic ( estimated at 200 million tonnes per year within the next decade).

[@floxy20]

In Ontario we get most power from hydro (water falls) and nuclear. Maybe we could export some of our intelligent policy leaders. You seem to need them. Even your ("conservatives) are nuts.

[@mikythesaint6507]

We deserve what we Tolerate 😞

[@paulnewman9275]

@@Ian-ks9fo Nuclear always was and always will be the only viable option to fossil fuels for the next 50 years.....Wind turbines are a bad joke and solar panels are fast becoming the world's second biggest waste material after plastic ...

[@tonybaker8208]

At last someone who knows the car business EV will ruin the car industry

[@BarrieCrampton]

They way it is at the moment they will, it might even be too late to turn it round and save it

[@seannewman5391]

China can make a car at half the cost of anyone else and it's EVs that are ruining your bit of the car industry?

[@NeilBarratt]

A van with a range of 70 miles would be next to useless for most people.

[@redpillnibbler4423]

Perfect for me just doing local journeys.Can’t afford one though!

[@tonyc2837]

Imagine the chaos if the majority of motorists switched to electric vehicles. How would the grid cope , it struggles now after a few days of cold weather.🤷‍♂️

[@spiritualdeath101]

I thought that too. But talking of cold weather, if you are stuck in British motorway traffic in this freezing winter with the heater, lights etc etc - running flat out - you need petrol or diesel - the idea of running down your battery just to keep warm and stranding the vehicle or having to bail to the nearest m-way services is not on. When you got to the m-way services you'd have to wait ages for a charger because all other ev drivers would be fighting over it. The whole thing makes no sense to me - other than as a cool electrical toy or gadget.

[@Hitstirrer]

@@spiritualdeath101You are struggling to cope with your fears because you have little knowledge on EVs. Stuck in traffic is no problem as the main battery will run the heater for many hours.

[@Devondogsclub]

...and all electric households with electric heat pumps & cooking etc & all alternatives banned. Electric supply controlled by smart meters.

[@tonypacke6954]

@@Hitstirrer You could be stuck in traffic for many hours. If your so into EV's why are you posting on this channel or even viewing it?

[@GT380man]

Brown outs are already baked into grid plans. One reason for Smart meters is selective reductions in power to our houses. See Australia.

[@emmacohen3926]

YES ITS ME, I’m getting my new Diesel Defender in 2 days time 💕💕💕,,so ends my 3 year EV NIGHTMARE 👿 well said Barry 👏👏👏🇬🇧

[@primafacie6442]

Ohh dear good luck with that Ingenium

[@vandamonium1731]

@@primafacie6442 i completely agree...

[@davidallen513]

Keep going Barrie, you are letting people know the facts.

[@acecolin52]

Peugeot Partner £2000.00 max mileage 70 😂😂😂 load it with tools (and the tool who bought it) and luck if you get 50 miles range. I’d have to charge 4 times a day and I’d never get home. Unbelievable that people are buying into this shite. Keep it up Barry 🍻

[@sahhull]

I hired an EV van for a month for my business. Gave it back after 2 weeks. Not fit for purpose. When loaded for a days work. The added weight reduced the range to just 50 miles per 2 hour charge.. Charging takes too long. I cannot charge at home even if I bought one, just like 40% of UK homes. So being reliant on public charging is a reality for many. Public charging is insufficient, often out of order and furiously expensive. Diesel is cheaper per mile than an EV using public charging. Charging also takes too long even longer when there is a queue. I had to drive out of the way to charge. I lost money, customers and reputation because of the charging and range issues.

[@davidadams5116]

I sold my Ionic and went back to a diesel. Will never entertain buying another EV however cheap. If I was given one I would sell it straight away, if I could find a mug to buy it

[@brandonfromlondonuk3484]

When you bought your milkfloat sorry i mean Iconic did you think to yourself hey i am saving the planet ? serious question

[@redpillnibbler4423]

@@brandonfromlondonuk3484 Not everyone who has an ev believes the bullshit.

[@gillb2268]

as the EV car crash becomes EVer more certain there is a morbid fascination in watching the EVangelists become more and more desperate to plug the unpluggable. Your channel is rapidly becoming one of my favourites, along with a fat Cornish gentleman, an ex pat Pomm, and a chap who buys cars. Good work.

[@GT380man]

All my favourite channels too. “Future, my arse” is a good catchphrase, along with “Thick as mince”.

[@sunnybnk]

My favourites too.

[@ridbanner1407]

My selection as well. Good honest reporting has a certain taste.

[@ComeJesusChrist]

We know them well! It’s bizarre that there are not more decent channels of these kinds. There are plenty of mindless EV propaganda ones!

[@mell3109]

The price of ICE cars is likely to go through the roof, huge shortage of stock out there

[@daverichardson8918]

What’s the reason for going back to ICE🤔. Because EV’s are shite.

[@redpillnibbler4423]

Depends on circumstances.We like ours because we do mostly local journeys and charge it from home very cheaply and it’s much nicer to drive.We don’t believe the climate bullshit and also own a diesel.

[@FredFox-m9v]

yes, this is the only reason to own an EV. Used locally, tethered to it's cheap octopus go home charger, with an ice alternative in the family as well to do long journeys. If you don't have two cars, then an EV is totally unsuitable to do both jobs and you shouldn't buy one. Our EV has degraded 42% now after nearly 9 years but still does the local thing with 60 odd miles of range but a nightmare used beyond it's home charger tethered range. I bought my EV because I was curious, curiosity has now been satisfied and found out that all batteries stop working given time and use, same as they always have.

[@redpillnibbler4423]

@ Fair comment.

[@user-bz9cb8bp2y]

The 8 hour power cut today (my area) reinforces my decision to keep my diesel... Sure my home had no leccy but my car started first time

[@Mark-bo7pb]

Good thing about ICE cars, we can stock up on fuel whenever there is a emergency...you can't do that with a EV

[@user-bz9cb8bp2y]

Not saying eV has no place in motoring.. Some are good cars (taycan, tesla)... Just wish they would lay off demonising ice cars

[@michaelsamwise1]

September 2021's fuel shortage (my area) reinforced my decision to keep my horse... Sure my car had no petrol but my horse started first time.

[@Mark-bo7pb]

@michaelsamwise1 til there's food shortage and i guess you will now keep your legs instead of a horse?

[@michaelsamwise1]

@@Mark-bo7pb Well I eat less than the horse!

[@mrbig7718]

One of the main problem is people buy things for the wrong reasons but will try to justify their decision with absurdity

[@BarrieCrampton]

Yep

[@GT380man]

Same psychology with jabs and masking. They’ve no idea what they’re doing or why they’ve done it, but they like the social approval from people who neither know nor care about them.

[@sunnybnk]

Very well put.

[@harrywalker5836]

back in late 70,s. i bought a lotus escort. used as intended, thrashed.. pretty much seems like w/ends were spent in the shed.. fixing something.. later bought a 1975 xb gt.. 351c.. you realise, its easier putting fuel in tank, than w.ends in shed.. same with ev,s.. sitting around for an hr to fill it.. phooooowy.. ausie..

[@stephensalt6787]

A lady in our village bought her MG5 EV for £27k in 2021 in 2024 with 20,000 on the clock the MG dealer offered her £7k. One pound per mile depreciation, cheap motoring? I think not.

[@harrywalker5836]

i paid 3.5k. for a 1982 ford bronco 4x4.. 24 yrs ago. used for 4x4ing, work, thrashed.. sold it last month for 24k.. spent mainly on upgrades, not repairs. less than 5k.. if that.. ausie.. i also have a 1975 ford f250 highboy. rare,ish. again paid 3.5k at auctions 22 yrs ago.. its now worth 40k..

[@rivergladesgardenrailroad8834]

Totally anecdotal crap.

[@BarrieCrampton]

But yet it’s not

[@rbnhd1144]

I love your determination Barrie as the truth really needs to come out. I'm not here to tell anyone what to buy, people should be able to make their minds up about a car purchase just like any other item they buy, the Bullying needs to stop, we need freedom of choice, I don't think that's too much to ask.

[@timhicks2154]

We are already being warned about power-cuts. How can the power-grid possibly cope with loads of EV’s charging?

[@GT380man]

It won’t cope.

[@Trevor_Austin]

Short answer, yes but… It depends where you live, when you charge and when you are asking. Currently we have a moron in charge of our energy. This tw@t hasn’t quite realised the full implications of what he is suggesting. Assuming EV’s are the universal answer and we have heat pumps and we are reliant on internment, weather dependent power sources we will have to rewire most of our grid, install 10 times more chargers, build a vast number of thermal power stations (as back-ups), have enormous grid support/stability devices in place, work out how to dump excess electricity all by 2030. Yet Miliband can’t find his own arse with two hands and mirror.

[@robburrows2737]

With bi-directional charging EV's are actually part of the answer. You can sell electricity back to the grid at 15p per kWh while charging off - peak at 7p. Just research it.

[@timhicks2154]

@@robburrows2737 - dream on!

[@alanchow5465]

@@robburrows2737lol don’t post facts! It annoys them.

[@zzhughesd]

BYD Dolphin £239 down £239 month. The Chinese are here to wreck the Sh1t out of our lovely car market. Its saddening.

[@simonh870]

And Rachel Reeves is keen to help them by keeping Chinese cars Tariff free.

[@tigersilberhannes9153]

Whats sad about it? Anglos started buying german, french and japanese cars because your own ones were shit. Now you buy chinese or koreas because everyone elses are shit.

[@acousticabuse6953]

Once people realise they are cheap, badly made death traps they won't sell

[@joytotheworld9109]

It wasn't lovely, cars have not been built to last or be repairable, apart from crash safety they are vastly inferior to cars 25 years ago: heavier and more complex. Chinese cars are on the rise not by building better milk floats but by the failure of Western makers to make milk floats as cheaply.

[@brandonfromlondonuk3484]

but bYd cars are ugly

[@Markart50]

I know lots of people who hate the whole idea of EVs. Your small EV is the perfect idea of EVs. LOCAL TRIPS. they should be mass produced. Keeping diesel and petrol for distance driving.

[@BarrieCrampton]

My Ami is perfect for short trips

[@philg7889]

Exactly right. Smart car sized EVs, for shopping and dog walking are fine. The rest - ICE vehicles.

[@harrywalker5836]

so now you own 2 cars.. & pay twice as much.. fk ev,s.. bs idea.. by the greens, w.e.f. 5 yr olds die in the congo, digging cobalt, lith, just for your tiny brain, convenience..wake up..

[@redpillnibbler4423]

@@philg7889 Not just Smart car size - Renault Zoe - mid sized hatchback,does 180 miles.Perfect for all local to medium journeys 👍

[@Twmpa]

Where I work there is an EV only policy being brought in for our vehicle fleet but we cannot fit fast chargers because our electricity grid cannot handle it - an upgrade of that would cost over £40 million apparently. Although that is irrelevant at the moment because the chargers are currently not working. We have an electric Peugeot Partner which takes a full working day to recharge once it has eaten its 120 mile range (we are not allowed to leave vehicles charging overnight). We also have a few PHEVs which, because of the abovementioned never get charged and are using around twice as much fuel as the diesel Astras they replaced (someone explain to me how that saves the planet please!!). A month or so ago, we received some MG4 EVs, all 23 reg with delivery mileages funnily enough. They have a fantastically confusing and unresponsive touch screen system and almost all of the controls, including heating, are on it. Thanks to this, I am certainly convinced that I never want an EV, I'll stick to my 14 year old diesel Citroen thank you.

[@Philip---pip267]

That's the best reason I've ever heard for not wanting an ev. Yes, I can imagine, health and safety not allowing overnight charges, etc. Typical of modern soon to be all unemployed Britain. Its sad but true,, we as a society now create most of our own problems.

[@alicelander9058]

They've just said we had enough gas for a week, imagine another million or two or ten EVs charging at night using gas turbines, that gas would run out in a day not a week

[@twinring3846]

Whenever I watch a video showing you that EVs won't work, I have to watch an advert for a new EV🤣

[@HappyBagger]

Auto Trader must be paying YT an awful lot too, I keep seeing that "if the world of electric..." ad EVERY time I watch one of Barrie's

[@ridbanner1407]

My local MG dealer is smashing it. BUT no one is actually buying them , it’s all PCP finance deals for 3 years with it being handed back for another one. It’s sort of wrecking the car market in a unsustainable Chinese dominated way ?

[@bentullett6068]

China are only bringing loads of their brands to the UK and Europe as their market are already wise to how bad the Chinese built EV's are.

[@sahhull]

Ive been saying this for the last 10 years. Only to be called an oil shill by the virtue signalers All but one of my long standing EV owning/leasing customers have gone back to ICE cars. They guy that kept his is retired, in his own words 'I hardly go anywhere now' He does 2000miles or less per year. Ive got a new customer with a Tesla model 3.. He hates it but he has had it forced on him by the company he works for. What an aweful pile of dodoo. Nothing quite fits or aligns as it should, orange peel paint as standard from the factory. Interior is low effort and as bland as bland could be, the steering wheel looks like a £5 toy.

[@Hickalum]

I sold mine cuz I couldn’t leave my kids in it in case of fire. I know the risk is incredibly low by imagine if you lost all your kids by being burnt alive. So every time I popped into Tesco or a chip shop I had 4 kids in tow, two of them toddlers.

[@brandonfromlondonuk3484]

When you bought your milkfloat sorry i mean EV did you think to yourself hey i am saving the planet ? serious question

[@tokoloshimampara9932]

The risk is very real, especially if subjected to regular fast charging. This causes two things to happen. First is Lithium plating, which is the deposition of metal Lithium on the anode which is extremely reactive. Second this builds up through dendrite formation which then perforates the delicate membrane separating the cathode from the anode. When this happens, it's Kentucky Fried Children time.😢

[@lancethrust9488]

SMART MOVE YOU WENT FROM RANK BETA CUCK TO STREET KINGPIN ,,,, YOUR STREET CRED IS RESINSTATED !!!!

[@maxSebben]

Los Angeles !!! The EV evangelist paradise. Post apocalypse survey would be interesting.

[@kemadat]

When did you saw burning ev with kids inside? Talking rubbish 😅😅😅

[@GregPodster133]

People ( human nature ) just don't like to admit that they were wrong.

[@BioniqBob]

So how does this fool get 60% to tell? LOL B.S. that's how.

[@seannewman5391]

the words "pot", "kettle" and "black" come to mind

[@GregPodster133]

@seannewman5391 I ( 66yrs ) 'Fell' for the diesel 'Hoax' years ago. ( more mpg/cheaper fuel, etc ) and will not be falling for the Ev Hoax. ( they are NOT a one fix solution ) You need to wake up and realise that if " The Government " are pushing anything, it will not be for the benefit of the consumer. The No Congestion charge didn't last long, did it? ( which I called about 2 years ago, btw ) one other thing, why are most EVs sooooo ...king UGLY. Maybe it's just like the old " Dogs looking like their owners syndrome " 🤔🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@garypowell1540]

Why would anyone who is happy with their EV bother to wast their time defending their own choice? ICE owners are not seeking to stop them from doing what they think is best for them. However, our governments have a far more insidious motive behind this massively authoritarian and expensive promotion of EVs at the tax payers expense.

[@johnthemagnificent7022]

Thanks Barrie keep the truth coming

[@bastogne315]

Barry is bonkers😂

[@johnthemagnificent7022]

@bastogne315 Knobhead

[@lancethrust9488]

ITS NOT HARD TO FIGURE OUT WHY PEOPLE ARE GOING BACK THERES LITERALLY 101 NEGATIVES AND GROWING

[@timhicks2154]

Climate Intelligence Unit - a massive contradiction in terms

[@daveb2wright]

So, I don't want an EV and it appears there are many others who do not, also. Where do we go from here? The government has doubled down on forcing this on the population! 28% this year...:-(

[@GT380man]

Where we’re going is the end of mass ICE car manufacturing. That’s the real goal. The authorities don’t care whether or not you get an EV. You’re not going to be allowed an ICE car. Got to go.

[@MrSonicAdvance]

You vote for whoever promises to roll-back the "net-zero" goal at the next election.

[@redpillnibbler4423]

Manufacturers are going to hybrids/soft hybrids - basically ice with small added electric motor.

[@seannewman5391]

We live in a democratic and civilised society and the EV transition its happening because of scientific and political consensus. You may not agree or like it, but hey that's life.

[@daveb2wright]

@seannewman5391 a mandate is not a democratic tool. Forcing people to use something sub standard is a communist act. See eastern bloc countries before the fall of communist regime.

[@neil5877]

My neighbour has one charging on the drive, so my house is at risk. I'm disabled and can't get out of my house quickly. I don't want one to cook me in bed.

[@luckysembry5508]

I’m the same-disabled with a neighbour charging their EV just yards from our front door. I try not to think about it!

[@zrbytegmail]

Your car is way more likely to blow up than his is, look it up. The problem with an EV fire is that it's harder to put out but if it blows up inches from your front doors it'll take down both houses if it's a diesel or an EV.

[@seannewman5391]

@neil5877 Statistically speaking you know your fridge or washing machine is much more likely to set your house on fire than an EV don't you?

[@davidharrington1133]

I noticed my neighbour who had a Tesla and an electric BMW has done exactly that.

[@WeAreAllDoomed-n5i]

When the dealer tries the hard sell on EVs, just say "They're crap! Mention them again and I'll walk out!".

[@David-fj5lz]

Do not forget you are not allowed to use non manufacturers spares so any legal repair mean it has to be scrapped

[@deeza3384]

I don't have an EV, but I hate it anyway.

[@stephenball3504]

Probably because the majority of people don't want an EV. Personally I think ragne anxiety is the biggest hang up that worries people most. I work in the construction industry and we had an electric Transit Van on demo the other year. Range was about 90 miles after an 8 hour charge. What use is that when some days one could be doing 200 miles or more in a day. Not for me thanks, ill stick with my old diesel.

[@theodavies8754]

I still value a 3 year old low mileage tesla in good condition at £1500. Virtually none of the BEVs made so far will be viable by 2035.

[@seannewman5391]

@theodavies8754 I'm afraid you have fallen into the trap of believing Anti-EV KZbin propoganda. Look at the CAP HPI (Insurers) scrappage rates for vehicles. As a percentage and factoring in age, ICE vehicles are being scrapped twice as quickly as EVs. Don't take my word for it, look at the figures. I realise there are lots of factors to consider here , but the idea that for the most part (odd examples aside) ICE cars will outlast EVs is patently mistaken.

[@RayTeggie-er7pb]

It,s weird how they keep producing huge suv e.v,s. With 1000kg batteries that cost an absolute fortune and they loose half the value in a month

[@WeAreAllDoomed-n5i]

What name can you never give an EV? EverReady! California has found a good way of getting rid of the damned things!

[@SzaszaG1]

So how come ICE car sales are faaling wordwide while the whole market is geowing 😭🥺😭😭

[@walkaz]

😂 And new ev owners are just realising they have £450 road tax on their “premium “ purchase for the next 6 years

[@ridbanner1407]

I work in an unheated premises and at the moment there is a noticeable difference in the service time AND the charging time for all the lithium powered equipment. Noticeably it runs out quicker and some equipment charge time is doubled.. Are EVs immune to this effect ? Somehow I doubt it .

[@davefish8107]

I know 5 people that bought EV and 3 of them have changed back to ICE . The only people I know that have kept EV are the ones with company cars

[@FredFox-m9v]

Barrie I have had several commenters reply to me, thinking that you get a new battery fitted automatically if it falls below ( 9 out of 12 bars for mine ) before 8 years and 100 k miles or similar with other manufacturers, with degradation. Could you research it yourself and make some content on the issue. The manufacturer of my EV has the words' at the manufacturer's discretion' written into the guarantee, so even the limited cell repair / replacement that is said, is not even guaranteed because of the inclusion of the word ' discretion '. Also people who have followed it up on forums are saying that you have to pay for an official battery check yourself, at your own expense, before it would even be considered at presentation ?

[@Ian-ks9fo]

Without knowing the exact manufacturer of your car, the discretionary part would appear to relate to the decision to repair or replace and not that it's up to the manufacturer if they fix the battery or not.

[@FredFox-m9v]

the wording from my manufaturer actually says " - - - - - -" will repair or replace the damaged battery 'components' free of charge to bring the battery capacity back to 9 bars. it also says in the preamble " - - - - - -" reserves the right to amend, modify or withdraw any or all of it's commitments at it's discretion. What sort of a guarantee is that ? Nowhere does it say new battery.

[@ghunt9146]

​@FredFox-m9v they will also download it's use, & charging history. If you've gone outside of recommend parameters then they could reject a claim.

[@FredFox-m9v]

What recommended parameters ? The 80% is only a guideline and anyway, we are told that a certain part of every battery is set aside as a buffer. Nobody has said you can't use a rapid charger more than a certain number of times ( mine hasn't been rapid charged regularly anyway ) What parameters are written in stone, never to be surpassed ?

[@seannewman5391]

@FredFox-m9v The simple fact of the matter is there is little data to go on. Batteries are rarely replaced under warranty because they rarely go wrong or degrade too much. Certainly the newer designs. I think it will be many years before we really understand this.

[@paulnewman9275]

Nobody yet has ever given me a good reason to buy an EV and to be be honest there are few reasons now to buy ANY new car ....all too big ,too heavy ,too expensive and full of too much useless unwanted tech.

[@lancethrust9488]

THE ONLY TIME I WOULD CONSIDER AN EV IF I COULD SOMEHOW USE ONE FOR FREE AND RIG THE ELECTRIC SO I CAN CHARGE FOR FREE AND HAVE ONE OF THE FOLLOWING JOBS , TAXI DRIVER , DRUG DEALER , DELIVERY DRIVER PROFITS WILL BE THROUGH THE ROOF !!!!

[@harrywalker5836]

doubt it.. ausie.. there bs. period..

[@davidnorton5887]

If nothing is achieving CAP valuations, what is the point of CAP, or are they in on it as well and trying to artificially hold up values?

[@LuckySpeaks]

All the disabled spaces were full of people without badges at the restaurant today, so I parked my S63L AMG in the EV space, put my badge in the window, and blocked their space for two hours.

[@deeza3384]

That was very inconsiderate. Why only 2 hours?

[@LuckySpeaks]

@ I had my nice three courses, and then had somewhere to be 😝

[@zrbytegmail]

So you saw a bunch of people acting like children with inconsiderate parking and decided to join them? I bet everyone clapped when you walked in.

[@SzaszaG1]

You dinosaurs still use Nokia 5110 I guess. Only need to charge once a week 😂😂

[@markmacleod]

Bought a 24 plate mg zs electric long range in September traded it back to garage in December as it worked out I'd be cheaper to drive a v8 mustang as couldn't charge at house I done 3k miles in it and I was over £900 quid in charge so bought a petrol hybrid mg

[@harrywalker5836]

shoulda got a 4 cyl diesel turbo. old one.. on a 400 mile trip. there quiker & 45 quid cheaper.. ausie.. why people by hybrids, ev,s i just cant fathom.. did gretta make an impression on you.??.. like the covid jab pushers.??.

[@simonjolliff7411]

Still driving my 2007 Town Car, V8 Full size Sedan. very comfortable and reliable, costs about $2,000 per year to run (insurance, Maintenace, tag & Gas) so how would spending $60,000 plus on an EV save me money?

[@Bob-n1t8o]

The only EVs going up are the ones going up in flames

[@pstanyer1]

Ive just driven from Scottish borders to oxford and back in a day set off at 6am back home for 4.20pm. It was a long way and I have to fill up my car which does 50+mpg twice with a total of £ 69. I was only in oxford for long enough to have a bew and use the toilet and drop off the item. If that was in an 20k ev just how long would my trip have been?

[@BarrieCrampton]

True

[@seannewman5391]

Equally you could ask yourself how much less polluting and less carbon producing would an EV be? Would that be worth X number of hours/mins of your time.

[@andrewhill9369]

@@seannewman5391I understand your point, and with points such as this and others such as EV’s are cheaper to run, better comfort, ‘full tank’ every day (if you can charge at home overnight) etc, I simply don’t understand why EV’s aren’t flying off the forecourts? I mean, there’s 38% more vehicle BEV choices than 2023 (I think), and plenty available at retailers, unlike the well-publicised restricted supply of ICE vehicles…. What would you do to make EV cars more attractive and become the popular choice for the masses in the UK?

[@seannewman5391]

​@andrewhill9369 Obvoiusly the "restricted supply" of ICE cars is because manufacturers are making less of them in line with the ZEV mandate. Which is happening because of scientific and political consensus. I think more needs to be done to explain the reasoning. People don't like being treated like kids and told what to do, even if it is neccessary. The main issue is cost. Manufacturers have focussed on high end models because thats where the margin is, but as the technology matures and becomes cheaper (battery prices have plummeted) then price parity will come, indeed in time, EVs will be cheaper than ICE. Most don't believe this, but just wait and see. Lastly there is a lot of anti EV propaganda out there (there is on both sides to be honest) and people are scared of change so they won't until they get further reassurance. I can only speak as I find. Most EV owners I know say they won't go back. I think we need to see where public opinion is in a few years to really know whether a 2030 or 35 ban is realistic. I hope it will be.

[@andrewhill9369]

@ I too like to see both sides, and often view pro-EV threads too. The key point that many EV owners appear to be negative about is the charging network. Cost, functionality and the lack of a standard for payment with the various apps being required. I agree that people don’t like change and certainly will be antagonistic to something that isn’t seen as an overall improvement to what they are currently using. For transparency I used to work in the motor trade for 20+ years, I retired at the end of 2023 as it was, simply put, shite. I can’t imagine what the trade was like last year and moving forwards.

[@robertmailer4978]

There no electric van out there which could replace my diesel van? even if I wanted to change, as an electrician of 45 years, the grid could not cope, there will be power cuts as we move towards green energy , so how do you go to work if there power cut.? once the country can generate electricity cheaply, but more importantly pass it to the end user, then I feel EV could be the way, as long as price come down and battery improve

[@NeilBarratt]

I'm sick of getting adverts for EVs on KZbin. I never watch new car content.

[@johnpassey3176]

I'm a grizzly 60+ year old bloke. i get adverts for EVs, make up or McDonalds

[@NeilBarratt]

@@johnpassey3176 And holidays? I'm a similar demographic.

[@tivvy-xf4kz]

@@NeilBarratt there's an app to stop that for free

[@davidmuir2546]

Ive read BT have placed an order for 3500 electric vans for their fleet,wonder how long its gonna take to get your phone line/internet fixed now 😂i wonder if thats how stellantis made their quota.

[@zitzong]

Only got to see adverts on tv and internet and it seems that electric cars are being shovered down people's throats. Maybe I am stupid but I still don't understand what is so great about battery cars.

[@bentullett6068]

It's to please the government's net zero policy

[@zitzong]

@ correct, to satisfy the net zero by 2050 requirement that the uk goverment made law

[@Sp_75-76]

You should try driving one

[@zitzong]

@@Sp_75-76 yes I have already

[@PNH750]

My Zoe was great to drive and had a 218 mile range but I sold it after just 1 year. Why??? Cold or wet weather badly affected the battery and electronics and in winter my 180 mile journey to work then meant I had to often re-charge the car using a commercial power point. This taking hours because the car did not have a fast-charge capability. The cost ending up being more than running an ICE. Then I got numerous electrical problems and despite a a 5 year warranty was charged by the dealership to investigate each problem. £120 for each of the 7 faults.

[@redpillnibbler4423]

That’s understandable.Our Zoe works well as an ev because we only do local journeys.However the manufacturing quality is crap and it has design flaws.

[@Philip---pip267]

If you have a nearly 200 mile trip to work, why buy an ev in the first place? I love my ev, but thats only because I'm retired, have a warm garage to keep it in, and one charge lasts me over 3 weeks. We know by now how these things perform, they're fine if we do research and buy according to our needs.

[@redpillnibbler4423]

@ Sensible answer.

[@HappyBagger]

That Mazda MX30 has already cost £7 per mile just in depreciation! My diesel focus has cost me 6 p per mile in depreciation since I bought it🤣 even adding n the 10p per mile diesel the EV would have cos over 40 times as much even if the electric was free😂

[@Grahamvfr]

To be fair, selling any new car weeks after youve bought it, says more about the persons acceptance to waste money than anything else.

[@HappyBagger]

Says a lot about their gullibility in being sold something that was not fit for their needs, and so desperate to get rid of it they'll take the hit

[@Fred-gu6pk]

​@@HappyBagger Either that or they didn't clear it with the Mrs first.

[@davidforbes6250]

Build them, and they will come.

[@paulyflyer8154]

I wonder how they're managing to charge their Teslas in California now?

[@Sp_75-76]

Dames as all the ICE cars I should imagine

[@redpillnibbler4423]

I don’t understand the polarisation of opinion on ev’s. Why do ev’s have to be either great or crap? Why do people who buy them have to be superior beings or complete morons?

[@DM-ki1bs]

Most are bought during the summer months and regret sets in during the winter months. My neighbour was excited with his purchase only to regret it when the cold weather hit. Be it with the charging and diminished range with all the systems running in the winter. He cant get rid of it for another 2 years due to his finances.

[@simonscarrott9071]

These new Tax laws which are coming in wont help

[@seantaylor9758]

I wonder if DPD are selling their EV vans. Just come up on my app that I have had an all electric vehicle delivery except it was a diesel! Is that misinformation or maybe they just got this wrong?

[@shaungilmartin1505]

are all these quick ownership changes in fact actually drivers rejecting the vehicles under consumer law

[@davidadams5116]

Are these people horrible Barry,lol

[@sussexbikerpillion]

Have you seen the new road tax rates for April ok EV a moderate 190 ICE vehicles over 40k new retail price will now have to foot a luxury tax of £410 pounds on top of the ridiculous road tax rates of say Range Rover Land Rover etc still emissions based. For five years from registration. I think if you have any of these luxury brands you will see a massive depreciation of these as people ,well only the really well off can afford to pay this additional tax 😢

[@Sp_75-76]

Luxury car tax is not a new thing, and applies to EVs as well

[@actualfacts1055]

More people are buying used EV'S because more people are selling them.

[@harrywalker5836]

???...why would you buy one. plus. the batts are worth 20k plus, minus, to replace.. if, it dont burn first..madness... ausie..

[@richardarthur4024]

Dregs. Spot on about evangelists

[@TheCornish123456]

The change in VED in april for the expensive ones is going to make the situation worse.

[@HappyBagger]

While my Focus diesel goes up from £0 to £20, 10 years old and they finally realised it was zero tax😂

[@johnthemagnificent7022]

There's only one Barrie Crampton End Of

[@overland_adventure_nz]

People are not gonna start buying alternative fuel vehicles until they are more efficient and lower cost. Electric vehicles are never gonna do this and they’re destroying the planet by all the Earth being dug up to get their precious metals,, including things like copper which is not enough supply worldwide to increase the electricity network for charging EV’s and also for the increase four times more copper needed in an EV vehicle then a standard internal combustion engine vehicle. Now larger vehicles are definitely going to hydrogen and probably most motor vehicles will go to hydrogen or some to fuel that we haven’t even seen yet . Electric vehicles are only a stopgap and the experts are know something about this say that there was not gonna exceed 10 to 20% in 30 years time of their worldwide fleet of vehicles on the roads. People talk nonsense about hydrogen being very expensive but with the new developments including Australia developing a new catalyst to split water into hydrogen and oxygen it’s bringing the cost of this down considerably. In New Zealand we have quite a few hydrogen refuelling centres that are not even transporting hydrogen around the countryside but instead utilising the water from the town supplies filtering it as it requires to be more pure and then turning this into hydrogen straight at the pumps . The electricity needed to do this as much less than one large EV recharging centre . The other development is that many countries around the world have got free from the ground hydrogen coming out and this is being utilise in New Zealand. At the moment. They are researching the quantities of hydrogen. We have to if they can build a service network from this hydrogen sourced from the Earth. Large vehicle vehicles will use hydrogen with internal combustion engines and also this means older large trucks and motor vehicles can be repaired with an internal combustion hydrogen engine . Smaller vehicles can also use hydrogen fuel cell technology, but this is too expensive for Joe blogs and only maybe for the Rolls-Royce sort of person . Pushing electric vehicles like they’re doing in the UK and other parts of the world is just absolute nonsense and it’s destroying people’s livelihood with wasting money as within 10 years. All the electric vehicles that are on the market today will be worth only a few cents if not being actually charged to dispose of . Time to move on stop pushing electric nonsense from these evangelist and let’s look in the future motor transport .

[@clivefrear1784]

At the risk of sounding like a conspiracy theorist, but is anyone else finding it strange that many of these cars’ most recent owners bought them on the last days of months, very recently and are seemingly selling them before they’ve had a chance to get really fed up with them? Sounds more like a registered keeper details change than anyone actually buying them to use - which is no more or less disturbing!

[@tivvy-xf4kz]

that is exactly the point barrie is making. the smmt only record new registrations so most of these cars are being registered then sold on or stored as used vehicles therefore getting 2 mentions in the stats without actually getting on the road,

[@stevebobojones]

I had a Morris Marina 10 owners £300.😊

[@redpillnibbler4423]

I think I had one of those,second car I owned.😄

[@Paul-ey1ct]

Ive got a electric car on contract hire, a VW id3 it's fantastic for me, goes like a rocket , really fun to drive , the insurance is covered and up to four other drivers I choose, and any glass and tyres, replaced if needed also VW breakdown cover included, also if it breaks down they take it back and give you another car .. all for 2 and a half hundred quid a month, fantastic, I'd say take one on a test drive and make your own mind up. Rather than be persuaded by someone on utube Or me .

[@pietjemol3420]

The only way part of our transportation could be by EV batteries is the motocycles in Taiwan, with places to swap your battery with a full one. With cars that is extremely cumbersome and the grid wouldn't cope with the massive batteries needed for cars. But for cities with smaller motocycles it could work.

[@BioniqBob]

Nice to hear from one of the uneducated.

[@Ian-ks9fo]

Barrie very interesting video but how did you pick the 20 EVs on carwow. There are way more than 20 available. Ta

[@BarrieCrampton]

There were 20 EVs available today, no cherry picking went through everyone, showed the dates of the 12 who are selling within the year, and several in just a few weeks

[@micky27p1]

Great stats but show a few ice car examples - bids vs cap to highlight the issue

[@dannycrooks8462]

2 close friends had EVs and they got rid of them before a year was out the reason they got rid was lots of tech problems and not doing near the range stated the couldn't go a full day without charging with what they were doing it wasn't possible to charge it during the day and the length of time it took to charge a few other friends have evs and they're happy with them but they're only doing short local journeys

[@johnowen7061]

How many get EV and cannot charge at home or cannot get their head around driving and charging the car, did they do their homework. So is way there so many car with short time that they are up for sale, Barrie is correct need to ask why they are selling them. There are the people who like ICE car which is fine my me and would try to talk some one in to them, but don’t say I am a idiot to have a EV, I did my home work I can charge at home, I got £11,000 of the price it cost me less to fill that a PHEV I had and my insurance went down by £200. I know some one I know had a Nissan PHEV moved to the new MG HS ICE car and this is drinking petrol so now looking to change to the MG HS PHEV, I will let you know how much they lose on a car they bought in October if do go through with it.

[@blogg9922]

Brother in Law wanted rid of Kia eNiro. Nothing wrong with it, just no longer suited their need to do regular journeys to rural Scotland thanks family issues. Wanted to go for a Hybrid Kia dealer who supplied EV 9:14 9:21 not interested, nor was anyone else and yes, WBAC & Motorway offers were low Happily still had an old Audi diesel.

[@caterthun4853]

Great news. Thay will drop the price of EVs . So far I have found them too expensive. Believe the price of batteries have fallen 50% in last 6 months.. still keeping my petrol 4x4 for off road work.

[@oojimmyflip]

My miles have significantly reduced in my diesel recently and I'm pondering swapping to an EV maybe a used MG, my garage has had a used MG EV for two years and it's going well for him only doing 25 miles a day to and from work. I think if your mileage is short it's possibly going to fit into life a bit easier.

[@timhicks2154]

Don’t do it

[@brandonfromlondonuk3484]

do it please so we can all laugh at you in 6 months

[@acecolin52]

I would check out the videos on here about the guy with vibration issues on his MG ev before you do. If you are only doing low mileage get one if you can charge at home and park it away from your house but just check out the videos first about the MG.

[@daverichardson8918]

Noooooooo

[@Derecq]

Barry has said several times before and in this video, -if you are only doing low daily mileage and can charge at home an EV will suit your needs. There are plenty of low mileage low priced EV's out there, the problems start if you want to do any long trips and have charge away from home.

[@SzaszaG1]

Lies and lies

[@BarrieCrampton]

Feel free to point out the lies, otherwise just keep quiet

[@PNH750]

I was working in central London.

[@gerrymoorhouse2130]

The answer clearly according to luddites like barrie is to bring back coal fuelled steam cars or better still horses.

[@mikeolly67]

Intelligent input there 🥱

[@BarrieCrampton]

Obviously not clear enough for you to understand sadly, because that is not what I’ve said, EVs need to be sold properly and without lies, and people like you putting words into other people’s mouths

[@bakulpatani-zp2wx]

Don't stop

[@zjzozn]

Barrie don’t you understand how auction bidding works? Don’t most bids come in at the last moment?

[@alicelander9058]

I used to take my kids and grandkids out of the ice car when filling up due to fire risk in 80, 90s 00s, EVs are even worse imo especially if you cant open the doors

[@taptaptapuk]

The truth is out there

[@timhicks2154]

@BarrieCrampton - what motorcycles do you have? I have a good few Classic Historic ones.

[@5kram]

Just PX my Nissan leaf after 5 years but I stayed EV just a bigger battery model they are great for me.

[@TheBlibo]

You hav hit the nail on the head if they are no good for a joy ride what are they good for..... local commuting,so who can afford to buy an ev just for commuting and have another vehicle for enjoyment wether that be for hooning around in or towing a caravan, most of us don't want or need more than one vehicle and get the vehicle that suits them for their daily commute and their personal enjoyment in whatever flavor that comes.yes there will be a few that have multiple vehicles for separate purposes and i am shure that a few of those will have an ev. I wander how many people got an ev for the driving experience? And i wander who owns the most ev's the public or the business as a tax offset

[@redpillnibbler4423]

I love driving an ev,it’s a much nicer experience.However it’s used for local to mid range only.It’s never been charged away from home. Horses for courses.

[@ADYDRURY1234]

To be honest Barry I am finding it quite funny seeing all the pro EV sales bullshit numbers, it was on the TV the other day again banging the EV drum. You only have to go out for a drive at busy times of the day and see the lack of EV's on the road. Let them keep pushing the EV dream, while they are stuck on their driveway or in some shit hole carpark for ages on the end of a cable they are not getting in my way.

[@staffy4389]

So the MACMASTER is correct , there should be a choice.

[@chriselliotme2683]

I will be dumping my ev. For an ICE car!

[@RayTeggie-er7pb]

I have an atos dis ability scooter, the battery on it, drops to half the usage time when the weather it cold, stuff useing an e.v when you loose half the charge when it,s cold

[@johnowen7061]

Sorry your scooter sounds like that it’s few years old to be dropping like that or not charging correctly. EV do not lose half there charge only lose range because you have heating on in cold weather and about 20 miles, with no heating on I can get 195 on 200 miles battery. But like the heat on.