Bart Bellon & Thor

[@5aturnia]

Gsd malinois cross. Wow what a mix. I hope to own one one day. The best of both worlds

[@5aturnia]

Looks like what the German shepherd is supposed to look like and did look like in the 1920s before all of the poor breeding

[@wmorenoiii]

One of the best dog trainers in the world, it’s sad so many people have screwed up how people view e collars, when used properly they are one of the best tools available and also one of the worst in the wrong hands. Obviously people with negative comments don’t have any clue on proper use of the tool.

[@onlywhenprovoked]

I have never seen a pair as good as Bart and Thor. Very inspiring. As I get further along training my all-black GSD, I see a lot of these "tricks" are deeply bred into these dogs and comes quite natural to them. They absolutely love working for their leaders. Anyone who watches this video and can't tell that this dog absolutely loves this, just doesn't know GSDs and Malinois. I love all dogs, but these are not like a dopey lap dog, and they would not be happy with a "pet"s life. They Need Work.

[@Novahunde]

Have watched lots Bart's clips and had this one sent to me. It is truly inspiring. Thank you so much for showing us this work I have so much fun trying to copy it with my little girl!!! Just brilliant.

[@brandonhinton2073]

I would ignore those who made the negative comments. They will continue to abuse their dog by restraining them to a 6 foot leash for the rest of their life instead of having a dog off leash trained that can be trusted in all circumstances.

[@suzetridesanandalusian8529]

Or just chained in the backyard with an igloo and zero human interaction. This is a poetry in motion and look at the *wag*! Thor is about to wag it clean off!

[@stevet1790]

Very well said! People with their dog restrained on a 6 foot leash for their entire life have no room to even bring up the topic of abuse.

[@ALANZO-y9w]

People are missing the point of the e collar, it's on the dog but he not using it, do people no how much time and countless training was giving to get to this level, you have to put in the work, u will never see this level of training no where, this is not back yard training

[@marilynfuller5718]

I could and have watch this team over and over! highest respect and regards!

[@ike21983]

This is absolutely Amazing!

[@ogk9com]

I love showing my sons what a happy E-dog looks like. This was then. We should all be better today.

[@bazingaaa1991]

I got the same exact dog but not as trained of course . Amazing Thor and Bart

[@marcnsango9438]

Vous êtes un génie Bart Bellon je vais réaliser mon rêve 🥰🇨🇲🇧🇪🦮🐕‍🦺

[@marcnsango9438]

You're a genius Bart Bellon I'm going to realize my dream 🥰🇨🇲🇧🇪🦮🐕‍🦺

[@Thomas-ig3kn]

Truly amazing 🙏🏻👊🏻

[@lindebree7978]

i have bin told it is not an e-collar but an training collar(remote -electric ) so you kan "stimulate" your dog to listen better to you

[@dennyblake1093]

Something

[@snubblebubble4937]

They're the same thing.

[@faruk510tatiks]

Bart you are a very good trainer but also good person I will go at you seminary in November 2012 in mexico see you there

[@roky2787]

Der top wie immer

[@madasorescu]

Excelent team ! Great work! Wunderbar !

[@Topdogperth]

What is the word/command he uses for right side position?

[@raumir123]

Toda una máquina

[@thekynologist155]

For alllllll the chatter abounding around the “balanced trainer” concept (or worse, label), Bart’s and Michael’s NePoPo doctrine-especially when being executed and exhibited by them-is a truly “balanced” system…hell, it’s in the dang’d name, eh!? But I don’t mean simply a properly proportioned “balance” between positive and aversive stimuli, but rather using aversion and inducements in ways that cultured a balanced dog, a dog with balanced nerves, drives, motivation, and above all a balanced brain and resultant cognition! Don’t we all want the same in our programs and praxis?! The Bellons have spent decades helping trainer-handlers answer the How? And Why? for us. Let me suggest one simple balance that I believe, in my confessedly insufficient knowledge of them and their system to suggest I’m expert in either, that provides a sort of macro-system influence, which is a balance between the best of the present AND past knowledge and philosophy of working dog art and science, heart and soul, and weds those two times in a way that defines the future of dog training for generations! Gratitude and congratulations from us, Mr & Mrs Bellon!

Excellent .

[@margaridalourenco2777]

Perfection!

[@vincentlu9607]

elite level for sure

[@marcelocontroldog486]

Sensacional Bart

[@lindebree7978]

if you watch his hands you wil see some kind of ring on his finger, this is part of the remote controle system from the ecollar. you can find this remote at the following site Dogsport.be and search for the TT1000FK , i don't mean that he uses the electric tick all the time , i dont think he does because it also has sound and buzz function i think , but it is very wel possible

[@Лилия-Рыбинск]

Очень красивая работа собаки!

[@karneilemalisrealattackdog5437]

Hello just wanted ask few questions I bought a female Mali 2 days ago and just building a bond with her at present she dosnt bark or anything just learning basic sit stay down how do I teach to speak on command and how to train her on family protection she's spot on around kids heals sits just want some advice how to get her to speech and bite on commands

[@leaannsavage2231]

Find a local dog training club in your area. See if you can find someone trained in Bart's NePoPo system.

[@dennyblake1093]

Give her to me!

[@newtoncamposcampos]

Good evening, which race that dog?

[@chris9352]

Thor was a Malinois mix / he wasn't a pure breed.

[@ericfinley126]

Nice 👍🏾 work

[@johnitalo3309]

Que controle maravilhoso.

[@tapsarautanen]

Martin System PT3000 series have what they call finger kick, he could be actually using the collar from a small ring. Still from the video it seems like Bart Bellon is not using that system but only he knows for sure.

[@boxster87]

thank you so much i wish i could come to your silver class

[@k-9teamzagrebschoolfordogs68]

Beautiful just beautiful

[@Ton-gm3lf]

This man really is the best there is. Look at the happiness Thor shows.

[@primalcritters]

I love when herders have working line German Shepherd in their lines. Makes them more impressive looking and I think gives little bit more balance when using the right dogs.

[@lukeryuzaki2328]

This is a purebred Belgian Malinois. Bart Bellon is a Belgian, he's a legend in Belgian Malinois training circle.

[@lukeryuzaki2328]

Google Flik van de Leibeekhoeve. It's this very dog registered name in the pedigree you can find on all famous pedigree website. Have some respect for other breeds, and their breeders/trainers.

[@shepherds.pie.youtube]

​@@lukeryuzaki2328 is he really a pure Mal?

[@lukeryuzaki2328]

@@shepherds.pie.youtube For some reason I can post the name and pedigree number. Flick van de Leibeekhoeve

[@lukeryuzaki2328]

Yes. Flik van de Leibeekhoeve

[@romulocapoeiraangoleiro2705]

Maior gênio da sua geração

[@ClvenTroy]

where can i contact bart bellon??

[@carlosescudero8233]

Can anyone tell what command does he use for "right"???

[@tanjas5653]

thats dutch "achter" it means behind

[@ronnysevelinus1088]

krav maga freak so what is common dose for right side

[@torbengreeven3779]

Geile Arbeit 🤘🏻👍

[@ITCDOGS]

you're right. Bart is not using the e-collar!

[@Tinohadji]

Not using it here, but he trains with it. Because he is not a moron. This guy is one of the top guys in dog training.

[@kogrady2409]

He has the finger kick on the middle finger of his right hand.

[@Mario2815]

Respekt !!!

[@TheK9work]

yes he is

[@MissKimChannel]

amazing

[@richerodriguez8079]

Super impressive. But yet I cant help feel that parts of the continuous clip have been sped up. I 've never seen a dog back up into heel position so quickly.

[@sequoyahbean]

It's done with shock and escape avoidance training. Google NEPOPO. Not my idea of a willing dog - too pressured and it's actually a bit uncomfortable to watch. If you watch Mario Verslype's work, the difference in the demeanor of the dogs is telling.

[@richerodriguez8079]

I'll take a look at it.

[@argophontes]

sequoyahbean That is *not* escape and avoidance training. Escape and avoidance is training by putting the dog into an aversive situation, and then demanding a behavior to get out of it. That is not at all what NePoPo does, and Bart himself even talks about that approach being incorrect. If you watch Mario Verslype and *maintain objectivity*, there's no difference in demeanor.

[@Trovatore75]

argophontes So you think electric shock is all fuzzy and nice feeling?

[@argophontes]

Trovatore75 Firstly, you missed the point entirely. Maybe read the comment again. Second, no, it's not fuzzy and nice feeling, it's uncomfortable. Not painful, but uncomfortable.

[@gevorgvoskanianhundecoach]

Tip Top

[@krazytrinisteve]

Insane

[@denceffcostel8799]

as vrea,ca si Blacky al meu sa faca asa ceva.E superb

[@vaso2212]

it is just perfect job............

[@Indigostar_media]

Trovatore75 can we see some of the videos of the dogs you claim to have trained to this level of obedience? You claim to have much success in your methods, perhaps if you shared then some of us would be willing to face out shock stimulation. I checked your page but all I could find was a short clip of 3 out of controll mutts chasing each other aggressively and freely through what aperas to be a school field. Just trying to find some better advice than here since your self proclaimed better than the best. Hope to hear from you soon buddy thanks in advance for your help

[@viviencooksley6096]

Watch the world champions at the FCI world championship. Much better than anything you see here and they don't use torture devices because these are illegal in civilised countries (the champions are European) ;)

[@turboblenderofficial4684]

@@viviencooksley6096 you can not make a dog feel happy as this one if you use torture. But you can make him miserable, fearful and agressive. And the FCI champions go to Bart Bellon nepopo school and seminars and are glad to pay money for that.

[@viviencooksley6096]

@@turboblenderofficial4684 A dog with very high motivation can still be trained cruelly using compulsion. You are misinterpreting drive and stress as being „happy“. There is no reason to use electric shock to train dogs. Plenty of people train dogs without resorting to compulsion and avoidance training. And yes - I know people go to pseudo trainers and pay money to learn how to expertly shock dogs. That’s one of many reasons mondioring and IPO handlers have a horrendous reputation. They will do anything to a dog just to get quick results. Kind of pity for the few who actually do the hard work of training a dog humanely.

[@turboblenderofficial4684]

@@viviencooksley6096 I think you are misinterpreting something wrong: the tail. The tail tells everything. A dog trained with cruel methods has its tail between their legs, not pointing up in the sky. Why do you think I am an idiot? The tail tells everything I need to know. In the presence of a stick the dog works with his tail pointing up in the sky. If the dog was mistreated he would look so miserably that the trainer will not want to show him. You are clearly ideologically motivated, not an objective person. If you show this to any objective person he will not find anything wrong in this video.Yes, dogs have feelings too, I admit it, but when you say that big dogs can be trained with zero compulsion whatsoever, you sound like a scandinavian lunatic, sorry. Also, I dont see a point of communicating with closeminded people, so, please, dont try to continue this stupid conversation.

[@viviencooksley6096]

@@turboblenderofficial4684 Nope. A scared dog has its tail between its legs. An aroused dog does not. The response to unpleasant stimulation is not fear. Here the dog wouldn’t be afraid since it is relieved when the uncomfortable stimulation ends. That’s actually how negative reinforcement works. You are avoiding unpleasant stimulation - which is relieving. What it also does is completely remove free choice from the dog’s repertoire. And you are adding negative stimulation before it being removed. So it is cruel and unnecessary- and it produces obedient dogs, not dogs that are creative and think for themselves. You just get stupid functioning robots that will do anything just to end negative stimulation. If you bother checking with internationally recognised standards of humane training - whether it’s LIMA or LIEBI or the Humane Hierarchy by Dr. Friedman, you will see that in all systems negative reinforcement is very high up on the degree of aversiveness. Humane trainers will avoid it as much as possible. This guy has made it the “go to” procedure for things that could have easily been taught with positive reinforcement (which is widely recognised as being non-aversive). Basically it’s compulsion - which is the worse form of abuse.

[@kzreiq]

daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaam

[@Dvyttt]

Dog or machine? I dont know.

[@lindebree7978]

watch his other videos very close , he does use the e collar to train his dogs , this dog already knows his tricks so e collar is no longer needed

[@awangbudi6713]

mantab

[@onlywhenprovoked]

those vibrate like a pager or a playstation rumble pack, no shock.

[@1965Benji]

Jak by asi vypadala poslušnost, kdyby neměl v ruce klacek ( prut) . Kdyby pes nemiloval tak moc míček, neudělal by pomocí klacku se psem nic. Takový přístup k výcviku se mi vůbec nelíbí...........

[@dorkatomankova5132]

Pán nepoužívá pouze klacek. Pejsek má také velice dobře maskovaný elektrický obojek

[@1965Benji]

@@dorkatomankova5132 : tak to mi ušlo 🙄, no teď už je to před šesti lety, možná pejsek ještě žije. Pán je už v letech, doufám , že už s cvičením skončil, kéž by 🙄 , mělo by se to kontrolovat od ochránců , protože takhle předává způsob výcviku ostatním . Nejraději bych do něj pustila 1000 V

[@dorkatomankova5132]

@@1965Benji koukněte se pejskovi na zadní stranu krku. Uvidíte dva provázky. Ty patří elektrickému obojku jménem Chameleon (velice příznačné jméno) součástí systému je také téměř neviditelný prsten na prstu cvičitele. Celý systém je navržen tak aby byl pro většinu lidí neviditelný. Poslušnost pejska tak vypadá více organicky. Tento pán je stále mnoha lidmi považován za jednoho z nejlepších psích trenérů...

[@1965Benji]

@@dorkatomankova5132 : kdysi jsem cvičila se svými psy, ale takovým způsobem by mě nikdy nenapadlo 🙄. Chudáci pejsci 😥 . Jak někdo může tvrdit, že tenhle způsob cvičení je v pořádku 🤷. Lidi se mění, jejich myšlení 🙄

[@dorkatomankova5132]

@@1965Benji Lidé chtějí výsledky mávnutím kouzelného proutku a mnoho neinformovaných majitelů, kteří nechtějí "ztrácet čas" cvičením svého psa rádi šáhnou po "kouzelném nástroji" kteý za 5 minut vyřeší všechny jejich problémy. Že e-obojky nejsou žádný všelék na lidskou nezodpovědnost si vůbec nepřipouštějí.

[@laura71440]

avec un collier electrique c'est une honte

[@scigheibein1668]

Visto che ti senti così ganzo perché non ci provi con tua moglie?.....ammesso tu ne abbia una!!!!

[@viviencooksley6096]

Torture doesn't have much to do with training. In most civilised countries these torture devices are actually banned because animal cruelty is not permitted.

[@leaannsavage2231]

To call it torture you clearly don't understand the tool. I find dogs hate Head Halters much more than eCollars used at the levels these trainers use them at. To quote the Romans, abusus non tollit usum - the abuse of a tool is not an argument against its proper use.

[@viviencooksley6096]

@@leaannsavage2231 You are probably referring to the use as described by Schwitzgebel (negative reinforcement). Frankly, if the tool were CONSISTENTLY only used on very low settings, there would be no reason to have the tool be able to produce high settings. If the intention were to never use them abusively(as positive punishment), the way they would be constructed would be different. There are several studies proving the possible detrimental effects of these torture devices - just read them if you really care.

[@viviencooksley6096]

@@leaannsavage2231 P.S. You asked somewhere else if I am a "pure positive trainer"... I do not know how you personally define "pure positive trainer" - so it's impossible to answer truthfully. "Pure positive trainer" is not a clearly defined scientific term relevant to this profession. Do you mean using purely positive punishment or using purely positive reinforcement...or are you referring to "positive" not mathematically but ethically??? No idea what you understand under that term. I personally use scientifically sound methods that create as little fallout and causes as little distress to the animal as possible. Generally, I want my animal to have free choice not be forced into anything by discomfort or pain. Perhaps that answers your question? I might add, that the torture devices used by Bart Bellon are forbidden by law where I live under the law prohibiting animal torture. That is what the law is actually called: Prohibition of animal torture. So if this supposedly "very gifted trainer" were living here...he would stumble into problems because his preferred tools for teaching animals (Shock collars, pinch collars etc.) are ALL illegal here. And guess what - we get by fine without them. My main coach Bettina Ogris(Austria) makes the top ten in the FCI obedience world championship and uses none of these devices. The world champion is from Finnland (another civilised country which has banned animal torture disguised as training).

[@leaannsavage2231]

@@viviencooksley6096 - I will have to discontinue our conversation because I can't discuss a tool rationally with someone who labels it a torture device. Again, to quote the Romans, abusus non tollit usum - the abuse of a tool is not an argument against its proper use.

[@leaannsavage2231]

@@viviencooksley6096 if eCollars didn't have the high setting, they could not be used for training such as snake avoidance training. Food treats aren't going to prevent a dog from getting bitten by a Rattlesnake. Rattlesnake avoidance training is not abuse. I find it hard to believe you are really so kind towards animals when you are so sarcastic and mean to humans. "if you really care" that kind of sarcasm is uncalled for, and not nice.

[@DutchMrD]

Met stroom kun je alles leren schijnbaar , hhhmmm laten we ook zo mensen gaan opvoeden als een machine met stroom mooi man.Vroeger konden ze dat zonder stroom daar heb ik pas respect voor.Die hond heeft al zo veel schokken gehad dat hij een halve debiel is geworden......robot robot robot

[@lucabrasi3253]

Jij kent er vast alles van

[@schulsani0782]

DutchMrD sehe ich genauso

[@LinaVH]

I would be impressed to see if Bart could do all these things without the e-collar on. I've seen dogtrainers do this only with positive reinforcement. It's far more honest to the dog, and way more impressive. I don't really like the stress Bart's dog is under (the whining). However, I don't say he is a BAD dogtrainer. I just don't like his fondness for tools.

[@enigma06081994]

the whining isnt stress the dog is leaking drive

[@Tinohadji]

He is not using an e-collar here. But certainly has used corrections to get the do proofed so well. What you are seeing here is a completed proofed dog, that is impossible to achieve with r+ only.

[@leaannsavage2231]

LinaVH imagine you and I are in a room, and I have something in mind I want you to find/touch and we decide to play the "Hot Potato / Cold Potato" game, but I can only say "hot potato". HOW FRUSTRATING would that game be as you struggle when I get silent. How much easier (and more fun) would the game be if I could say "cold potato" when you are off track. That is all the eCollar does - inform the dog when it is off track so it can get to the reward faster (and with much less frustration). I feel sorry for smart dogs who are struggling to find the right answer in a "pure positive" environment where crucial information is withheld from them...

[@thotchocolate8503]

Look at all the other body language and you’ll be able to see that it’s drive and anticipation, not stress.

[@ingnut996]

Zero stress happy dog.

[@arielnoyola]

A dog full of fear. That mumble after the commands is from the trauma of receiving the shock from the electronic collar. And all the people commenting here that it is a "wonderful" obedience. Bart Bellon will never dream of winning an IGP world tournament.

[@JacobBlom-i6q]

A dog that's full of fear will never play. You can't even read a dog.

[@arielnoyola]

@@JacobBlom-i6q You do not understand anything about dog's training 🫣

[@Trovatore75]

The most gifted machine trainer as long as you don't mind machine abuse. Oh, darn.. It's a living dog... Ok - then I guess it's animal abuse instead.

[@leaannsavage2231]

Apparently you can't read dog body language - that dog is in drive, and is having a fun! A dog with those genetics is going to have that level of intensity whether it is channeled into a dog sport, or channeled into tearing up a couch. Much better to channel that energy and drive into something fun for both the dog and handler.

[@leaannsavage2231]

@Cold German Beer I don't think you understood my point.

[@leaannsavage2231]

@Cold German Beer Have a nice day.

[@puzzlespillet]

i bet i could get this guy to do tricks to do all kinds of tricks to if i put a shock collar on him to.... i have just reported this video for animal cruelty

[@K9JusticeTrue]

You moron, as if...presumptuous to say you could get the same level of training. Um, and why don't you look at the dog before you cry cruelty?? Does the dog look at all abused? SMH

[@puzzlespillet]

I could get you to do just aswell as that dog if you had a shockcollar og you daft bitch

[@K9JusticeTrue]

OK brainless, you clearly have no understanding of what you see, or dogs, or training. Just see a "shock" collar (hint, they don't shock, and he's using negative reinforcement at low levels). So buhhh bye now.

[@puzzlespillet]

I see a dog that is trying very Hard not get punished, it is clearly not working cause it wants to. Ever heard of positive training? I like My dog, i dont shock him to show off.... You wanna Zapp your dog, fine. Hope it bites you back....

[@K9JusticeTrue]

You're brainwaished. I train with positive methods, so um, yeah I've heard of it....and I don't see that at all. Because wait for it..he's not punishing the dog with the collar! It's called (if you would research before being an armchair 'trainer'...) NePoPo. Negative positive positive. The collar is on very low levels, and using negative reinforcement. He's not "Zapping" his dog. He's one of the best trainers for protection sport dogs on the planet. Do you see the dog ??? He's in drive, and excited to be working, and HAPPY. That is what counts. So shush. Go learn some more. There's a ton of ecollar trainers that suck, go troll their videos.