Bart Hanson Gets Put All-In for $7,350.. Can't Believe the Result!

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2 жыл бұрын

Bart Hanson reviews a recent hand that he played on the Hustler Casino Live stream where he is jammed on at the river for $7,350 leading to an unbelievable result.
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@CrushlivePoker
@CrushlivePoker 2 жыл бұрын
Would like to honestly hear the case for check calling here for 1.4x pot all-in if anyone wants to make the case for it. For those of you that are on board with a bet fold line, looking back and counting combos I think this river is so bad, he has more better than AQ hands than worse. Assuming that he does not call with A8o and below, I count hands that we beat: 6 combos - A2ss-A4ss, A6ss-A8ss 8 combos - AJo - 14 total. Hands we lose to: 6 combos A2hh-A4hh, A6-A8hh 6 Combos AT (including ATo) 4 Combos -79hh - Q9hh 4 Combos - 67hh, 68hh, 78hh, 34hh 20 total. Note that this does not count any thick thick slow plays like 55 or 99.
@yahtzeecrew6410
@yahtzeecrew6410 2 жыл бұрын
Too many combos get there on the river, fold has to be correct long-term. Bet 1.5-2k fold to jam on the river seems best given the stack sizes as you mentioned
@AjDotKom
@AjDotKom 2 жыл бұрын
clear fold on the river given the turn action, almost threw up when you showed he had AJo
@fevolenko3995
@fevolenko3995 2 жыл бұрын
Ok ill try. He never bombs with a flush because if he has the back door flush, then you don't based on your flop play and him having the Ah. He rarely has 2 pair because he wouldn't expect you to call with 1 pair - certainly not the overbet. To me against this specific player it's a call because the hand that makes sense he could have to beat you, based on his call call, is the flush, BUT imo the flush is ruled out because he would want that call. Based on you never having the flush based on your bet bet check, he all ins with flush 0%. If he had set or 2 pair you hear about it by the turn so thats unlikely too. I've watched a lot of Mike and Friends and his overbet makes literally zero sense - so I call here - but I've got a "Wow" pre loaded because he literally could have anything... These guys all spaz at times. I do think from his perspective he thought it's unlikely you have flush, plus he's blocking nuts, and because you checked after raise bet betting, he genuinely thought he had the best A. I think subconsciously you read him for having it because he genuinely thought he had it and he overbet thinking he might sometimes get a hero call from worse A, but also he counterintuitively thinks you could sometimes fold better..
@alloutofnothingatall
@alloutofnothingatall 2 жыл бұрын
Mike is clicking buttons here. this is that 1/20 or 1/25 scenario where someone is betting with worse but isn't a complete bluff.
@alloutofnothingatall
@alloutofnothingatall 2 жыл бұрын
@@lucaferrieri3753 it doesn't make any sense though. if it's value what worse hands are calling? if it's a bluff why pick this hand to bluff? he would have to literally see Barts cards to make this bluff make sense. he can fold out AQ and AJ to avoid a chop. those are the only hands that bluffing makes sense against.
@fredtalksmoney1713
@fredtalksmoney1713 2 жыл бұрын
Wow blocking out the other people hands and percentages so we can get your perspective in the hand is fantastic i would love to see more of this content Bart!!!! Thanks love your channel!
@nathansquire591
@nathansquire591 2 жыл бұрын
Completely agree! Love this format
@mylon999
@mylon999 2 жыл бұрын
Me too, this is the best way to present a hand!!
@jamescasino8453
@jamescasino8453 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid - poker isn’t about always making the right move when you know all the cards, it’s about making the right move w the information you have. Thanks for showing ur losses too 🙏
@xDubstepify
@xDubstepify 2 жыл бұрын
thank you for this comment. poker is a tough game.
@thebarrybarry
@thebarrybarry 2 жыл бұрын
Great format ! Blacking out cards is so good for the viewer . Also I can’t understand how you only have 70k subs but I’m sure that will absolutely explode up in no time as there no other content out there so good for hand reading .
@mangohavoc6428
@mangohavoc6428 2 жыл бұрын
I concur, haven’t bought the CLP course yet but just chilling with Bart during his live show has helped my game IMMENSELY!
@CrushlivePoker
@CrushlivePoker 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I learned a lot from the last time I tried to black out players' cards in that QQ hand vs Vertucci. Have to scrape the graphics before the river and do a bit of editing. Also the fact that the cards are always moving makes it a bit of a challenge.
@patrick_kyker
@patrick_kyker 2 жыл бұрын
I think a lot of his material might go over the heads of some new beginning players.
@Gos1234567
@Gos1234567 2 жыл бұрын
@@CrushlivePoker Although i think you let the cat out of the bag when you said "this guy" in such a way that wasnt complimentary,lol!! I was thinking ace rag
@bakaraymoo7389
@bakaraymoo7389 2 жыл бұрын
bro bart has been making content for over 10 years. it aint going up. you should be glad people arent interested in this type of analysis and, instead, just donk vloggers. its good for the game
@troythemak
@troythemak 2 жыл бұрын
Think it's a good fold in general here. This is just one of those fringe scenarios where a recreational player is value bluffing.
@ticenits1926
@ticenits1926 2 жыл бұрын
precisely. They dont like the idea of calling because they know that means they're behind, yet they dont mind valueowning themselves because "thats just unlucky".
@t4404
@t4404 2 жыл бұрын
this is a great way to analyse a hand and understand your thought process without knowing the outcome. more of this please.
@PhillyFebruary
@PhillyFebruary 2 жыл бұрын
I thoroughly enjoyed this explanation and blacking out the graphics made it much easier to focus on your analysis! Thanks so much for taking the time!
@jcw8955
@jcw8955 2 жыл бұрын
take a shot every time Bart says “the reason why…is because”
@mikehamilton367
@mikehamilton367 2 жыл бұрын
or "here's the thing"
@stevemarvinrealtor
@stevemarvinrealtor 2 жыл бұрын
I Like that you blocked out his hand till the river, do more of those videos bart, thank you
@SlowPokerTime
@SlowPokerTime 2 жыл бұрын
It's hard for me to make the case for calling - except maybe because it's specifically Nia you make a player-dependent shrug-n-call. That said, feels like the check-fold to the overbet jam is usually right for all the reasons you carefully laid out. Good fold, imo, frustrating results aside.
@dan_gk
@dan_gk 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I agree that the only case you can make for calling is a player-dependent one. If you watch HCL frequently, Nia turns made hands into bluffs all the time. He does a variety of things that make very little sense. He is also a huge calling station, so I kind of like the idea of bet-folding this river for a small size. Nia might well jam here anyway as a bluff over a block bet, but I think you're just as likely to get called by such a sticky opponent.
@YallaMiami
@YallaMiami 2 жыл бұрын
Mike Nia is a 🤡 I would have called
@pakawaka
@pakawaka 2 жыл бұрын
Agree this is a very specific player, Mike Nia has so much heart you need to call off sometimes
@fredde2593
@fredde2593 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, even though Nia makes crazy plays often, this is not the spot where you call. No obvious busted draws that calls 2 streets with someone behind you. AJ checks here 99% of the time, unless you have special powers and knows hero has AQ. :-)
@LukeWilsonn
@LukeWilsonn 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Slow.
@Blakeburke1
@Blakeburke1 2 жыл бұрын
Enjoying the new video style 👍🏻 thanks for the high quality videos keep pumping them out
@nickmullen402
@nickmullen402 2 жыл бұрын
Love this format! So cool to get to sweat a hand with Bart
@tonycatalano4338
@tonycatalano4338 2 жыл бұрын
Great play and thanks for the detailed explanation. Plays like that are the difference between good players and really good players.
@wlibera
@wlibera 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, very nice analysis and kudos to Mike for realizing he is probably behind, and pulling off a balzy bluff. I would just like to point out that strat of "check folding vs big bets" on such a runouts should not be played vs best opponents, because they can very quickly realise that we dont have check/calling range in that spot.
@sr4087
@sr4087 2 жыл бұрын
thanks for the effort of the black out; way cleaner than blurr and better for viewer for learning thanks again
@Eric-tj3tg
@Eric-tj3tg 2 жыл бұрын
Learning..slowly, we're learning. Thanks for the thorough explanation!
@richdaigle1031
@richdaigle1031 2 жыл бұрын
That was literally the only hand that he got to the river with that you beat. Good fold.
@mallred32
@mallred32 2 жыл бұрын
Facts. He saw a disciplined player that could fold many hands that had him beat. Made the move against a good player that can make a tough fold, position matters.
@jerrymason7887
@jerrymason7887 9 ай бұрын
Na, I think he just thought he had the best hand and was trying to get value.
@newstandardaccount
@newstandardaccount 2 ай бұрын
@@jerrymason7887 I think that's mostly right but he overplayed his hand. He loses to a lot of aces but beats some too. He obviously loses to a flush but he has the Ah and Bart is likely to bet a flush on the river. So, it's really unlikely Bart has a flush (plus, it was a backdoor on the flop so Bart would only have a flush if he had the 9h, and that hand is unlikely to bet the flop). The problem is his sizing. You want most of the aces to call you! His sizing guarantees that Ax folds, and he's only getting called by trips, two pair, and the occasional flush that checked. The only hand that folds that you want to fold is exactly what Bart had - AQ with no hearts.
@vallacespoker7902
@vallacespoker7902 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the content … i use a lot of your information in real time .. especially a lot of the thought process .. I can’t quite break hands down quite as good though yet … but it’s implementable .. love this sport :)
@wolffofcinema3448
@wolffofcinema3448 2 жыл бұрын
Outstanding content as usual Bart!
@nathantorian3005
@nathantorian3005 2 жыл бұрын
Great content, please make more videos like this Bart. Ty!
@rossferger9229
@rossferger9229 2 жыл бұрын
The classic "Value Bluff Shove". Lol. Again, thanks for all that you do. Really great insightful breakdown. Good luck at the Series.
@Gos1234567
@Gos1234567 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe Nia is a merge-shark🤣😂
@mikexpoker3275
@mikexpoker3275 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bart Always enjoy the videos and your analysis ❤🙏
@frankringwald4315
@frankringwald4315 2 жыл бұрын
the classic case of a fish playing so bad that it ends up being genius again lmao
@lt9948
@lt9948 2 жыл бұрын
Personally I think in these games especially at the hustler your river check was perceived as weekness yes if you break it down he could be bluffing with the best had in his mind he had the blocker to the flush i think ultimately he decided to go for it that's the difference at these stakes players are willing to put in max pressure on a perceived range..
@Mr.B_Gambles
@Mr.B_Gambles 2 жыл бұрын
One of my biggest issues with my game is aside from a few rare great nights it seems like I always start a session and find my rhythm early on but 2-3hrs in I might fall off my rhythm and it’s like every decision I make is the wrong one any tips to try and get it together and under control when those moments arrive?
@bullyboy131
@bullyboy131 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing this.
@mariolakatos1116
@mariolakatos1116 2 жыл бұрын
14.47 min of trully excellent content ! Thanks for the lesson I learned 👍.
@brianradant2885
@brianradant2885 2 жыл бұрын
Literally no reason for him to bet AJ unless he’s so good he knows your exact holding.
@joehenry9546
@joehenry9546 2 жыл бұрын
Actually it’s the perfect place to bluff. He blocks Queen Jack for the straight, and the back door Flush got there which he can represent holding the Ace of hearts. He’s trying to get two pair or less to hold and turning his hand in to a bluff.
@brianradant2885
@brianradant2885 2 жыл бұрын
@@joehenry9546 I guess. I just think his hands good enough to not need to bluff. How often does 2 pair fold? And AJ beats Bart’s give ups. I’d rather bluff hands that don’t have showdown value. Just my opinion.
@ghostmutt4265
@ghostmutt4265 2 жыл бұрын
@@brianradant2885 great explanation. Really, you only need to follow the last line in it
@ozrenbalic6051
@ozrenbalic6051 2 жыл бұрын
@@brianradant2885 agreed. Just because you have relevant blockers to nuts/nuttish hands doesn't mean you should bluff. Bluffing top pair second kicker, trying to get TPTK and two pairs to fold, doesn't make a lot of sense.
@DKBlair
@DKBlair 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the insight Bart
@dfdice1
@dfdice1 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Thanks for doing a tough hand where you didn’t take down the pot. Good reminder that you gotta stick with good logic, even when people are taking bizarre lines
@TheBarkanMethodofHotYoga
@TheBarkanMethodofHotYoga 2 жыл бұрын
Yea....good fold....love you blacked out his cards!!
@davidthom3582
@davidthom3582 2 жыл бұрын
wow, always next level mindset love the breakdown.
@patleaf2432
@patleaf2432 2 жыл бұрын
you checked and Mike sensed weakness ;P
@paulmcdougald4953
@paulmcdougald4953 2 жыл бұрын
I probably woulda called but for the wrong reasons as you explained, great video
@VegasNit
@VegasNit 2 жыл бұрын
Nia is known to be a unconventional player. But the A of hearts is the best card to have in your hands in this context, so I bet he capitalized on that fact. Thanks for the analysis, good fold long term
@jaymaxwell56
@jaymaxwell56 2 жыл бұрын
Great blog one of my favorites ever though it didn’t work out in your favor thanks
@herts9999
@herts9999 2 жыл бұрын
Perfect analysis. Saw it live Nia had to specifically put you on AQ because he knew you'll be calling with two pair plus.
@dustin9106
@dustin9106 2 жыл бұрын
Good analysis, Bart
@brycepowell6639
@brycepowell6639 2 жыл бұрын
As much as we can look at his range, I wish you had more commentary on what YOUR range looks like when we get to the river. Because what hands do you bet on the flop/turn that dont bet the river? Aj/Aq is basically all I can think of. Maybe a weird flush trap, like QJhh. Because when it comes down to it, if he thinks you never are bluffing or have worse value, he has an amazing hand to bluff with.
@Jermo484
@Jermo484 2 жыл бұрын
I dont think A5 or A9 should be going for a bet on the river either necessarily.
@Strombonio
@Strombonio Ай бұрын
This is one of the big reasons I’m a huge advocate for bet/folding rivers, especially against fishy players that won’t put you in spots turning 9x or an underpair into a bluff. I’d take a half pot or maybe 2/3 sizing and then it’s a trivial fold to a raise. 10H definitely a really tough river for Bart’s exact holding.
@tommypitcock9928
@tommypitcock9928 2 жыл бұрын
Well done I enjoyed it . He pegged your hand that is the reason for all in
@ozrenbalic6051
@ozrenbalic6051 2 жыл бұрын
I love the concept of not showing your opponent's cards until the end of the hand.
@jonathanngo6482
@jonathanngo6482 2 жыл бұрын
Great Analysis!
@zkave
@zkave 2 жыл бұрын
Really good fold! What a hand.
@lucasburns2465
@lucasburns2465 2 жыл бұрын
This was a great video for blacking out Nia’s hand. Couldn’t believe he had AJ lol
@stevenlewis3981
@stevenlewis3981 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome content as usual.
@vijx9617
@vijx9617 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video!
@qwertz12345654321
@qwertz12345654321 2 жыл бұрын
Like you said, this River card is extremly good for his range. Him having the Ah and KhTh on the board blocks you from most of your flushes. Even his J is relevant to block straights. Solver will often mix in overbet bluffs with the Ah in spots like theese even though its top pair. It folds out AQ and puts A5, A9 in a tough spot. That said, its really hard to imagine anything worse calling this bet.
@Gos1234567
@Gos1234567 Жыл бұрын
I thin the guy is defo bluffing here,no way is it value bet to get A8,A rags to call,Maybe he thinks he can fold out Two pair?
@iBxDiZzzLe
@iBxDiZzzLe 2 жыл бұрын
Any thoughts about about a small blocker bet on the river, even though its an awful river card ?
@EfficientRVer
@EfficientRVer 2 жыл бұрын
Rather than check/fold, I'd probably block 1/4 pot and fold to a raise, or block 1/10 pot and pray for a tell if he raises. I would love to hear what size bet you would have called, other than folding to "a large bet". I think you'd call up to 1/4 pot or 1/2 pot, so to paraphrase Mike Sexton, "If you're going to call a bet, you are usually better off picking an amount to bet yourself." Even a fish knows that raising that river is often suicide with one pair, and rarely gets called by worse even if raising with a straight or the nut low flush.
@NKKK19
@NKKK19 2 жыл бұрын
What are you doing with AA/AK/99 in this spot? Your hand strength is essentially same as AQ if you put V on 9xhh/Axhh type hands.. would you bet/fold river instead of checking? And if you check, are you calling off $7k?
@downupsidetoside
@downupsidetoside 2 жыл бұрын
I like this style!
@ozdenozdogan2494
@ozdenozdogan2494 2 жыл бұрын
Wondering if you had 2 pairs? Because almost it would be same situation. If you had ak or at, first of all would you bet on the river? As long as we didn't like Th, after checking on the river we were gonna be tested by all in. And we would be losing same hands that we lose w aq. So would you fold 2 pairs at the same situation?
@sniperd
@sniperd 2 жыл бұрын
Love the blackout, makes it so much more fun!
@victorarshavskiy4216
@victorarshavskiy4216 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Bart! In this case it makes little sense, but, if, say, you bet small, like 2k, would AhJo be a good hand to turn into a bluff and move all-in?
@windy6455
@windy6455 2 жыл бұрын
Playing 200bb deep and everyone is splashy passive pre. Shouldn’t you raise a little bigger than basically 3bb, with a tighter than normal range?
@WhiteSharkconcac
@WhiteSharkconcac 2 жыл бұрын
Damn I learned so much from this episode. That's for the explanation.
@sr4087
@sr4087 2 жыл бұрын
thanks again Bart
@MrJoosebawkz
@MrJoosebawkz Жыл бұрын
Idk the player that well but I think he had a perfect hand to “bluff”. I could be wrong since I’m fairly new to the game but as an exercise i counted the combos you could have based off the board, how you played, and his hand. I assume Bart plays pretty close to preflop and i used the RFI chart from pokercoaching to come up w a range. obviously it wont be 1:1 but anyway I think it’s really important that the villain here blocks both straights and the nut flush. And I think the fact Bart is a fairly disciplined player raises from +1 helps a lot too. Basically taking into acct the villains hand and the board, by the river Bart has around 44 combos that’d “have” to fold (all the Ax off and suited hands that don’t hit 2pair. +JJ & QQ) Then you’ve got 11 reasonable 2pair holdings that still probably fold but not as much. maybe 50%-80% instead of 90% You’ve also got 12 combos of possible sets by the river. I think all of them are likely besides maybe Tens. 9s could definitely bet the flop once before hitting. These probably fold out less than 1/4 of the time although with straights and flushes it isn’t 0 at least not against all players in a multiway pot. And as far as lines that I see Bart specifically taking. That’s really it. Although there still are more combos in your preflop range that theoretically you couldve been playing as semi bluffs. KT+ QJ+ JTs and J8s. Theres 30 combos of these and he beats/folds out 25 of them. So in total, assuming you weren’t semi bluffing a gutshot or your literal two flush draw combos, he’s got very high fold equity 66% of the time, decent fold equity 16% of the time, and low but non zero fold equity 18% of the time. On the chance you were on a draw or completely bluffing, he still has high fold equity (or has you beat) 83% of the time. Obviously I don’t really think you can calculate to this accuracy at the table (maybe pros can lol. but it seems pretty unpractical to me) but I think this is better understood simply as a case study into how powerful the right blockers can really be when mixed in knowing your opponents ranges. Practically speaking, he knows you basically have no flushes and no straights on this board while he can have all of them. I also don’t think this analysis really adds any insight into how Bart should play his hand but idk unless I’m thinking about this completely wrong it actually seems like a really good spot to bluff if your opponent is a discipline player who can find the fold button with top pair great kicker on a connected wet board and without the flush suit Ace. Maybe this is stupid thinking here but I think the fact he also has top pair 3rd kicker just makes it better bc it’s so polarized he’s actually probably getting called by worse hands more often than a smaller bet and beats a _lot_ of bluff catchers. While also folding out a lot of 2 pairs and increasing his odds of making a profit against sets (basically the only way to beat sets here is to shove. and i mean it’s not a trivial decision to call with a set. it’s a good hand but it still loses to the straight and the flush) which statistically is the worst thing he has to deal with. That being said it’s totally possible I just don’t get poker and what he did was a psychotic bluff.
@jasonbigelow1403
@jasonbigelow1403 2 жыл бұрын
nice break down of his value bluff 😅
@dutz2116
@dutz2116 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video
@bryanjohnson8162
@bryanjohnson8162 2 жыл бұрын
These are the games that I play on the regular these are the games that I want to learn how to play!!
@romanp8694
@romanp8694 2 жыл бұрын
I find this happens to me a lot. I get to the river and villain makes a huge bet that should mean a polarizing range. But in fact, these villains have very mergy river ranges. I don't even know what the proper adjustment should be to that??
@well.thy.one.
@well.thy.one. 2 жыл бұрын
call every time so they stop fucking around
@toddpolish
@toddpolish 2 жыл бұрын
Great self analysis. Fold all day!
@z17seattle
@z17seattle 2 жыл бұрын
More blacked out videos please! My favorite for sure!
@moaf2padventures757
@moaf2padventures757 2 жыл бұрын
for all those saying things like 'mike doesnt know enough to know that bart is capped at AQ/AJ here' it could just be much more simple than that. mike could just be thinking something like 'im gonna rep the flush and hope he folds two pair or a set. all in'. wrong process, right results type of thing. from what ive seen of his play (admittedly very little) he seems to play kinda randomly.
@mikehamilton367
@mikehamilton367 2 жыл бұрын
I doubt he is bluffing there..... the thought process could just be 'I haz top pair'
@Gos1234567
@Gos1234567 2 жыл бұрын
Not sure he would try to get sets to fold,I was thinking he just doesnt think his Ax is good enough if he checks as Bart just checked on a scary board,i mean ive seen pros turn top pairs into a bluff on trickey boards,but usually its with a rag kicker
@robgeib1723
@robgeib1723 2 жыл бұрын
Bart, I really enjoy the content. Do you use a color card for your editor to do color correction with? The color difference was almost distracting today between the two videos. I don't think they cost much and will add a lot of production value with little effort on your end.
@CrushlivePoker
@CrushlivePoker 2 жыл бұрын
color difference between my camera and the feed u mean?
@tpj8269
@tpj8269 2 жыл бұрын
@@CrushlivePoker yeah, the skin color of players looks red in the feed but normal in your webcam
@CrushlivePoker
@CrushlivePoker 2 жыл бұрын
@@tpj8269 Yeah. That was the actual feed, though. Meaning that is the raw footage on youtube red tinted
@madmad4769
@madmad4769 2 жыл бұрын
great vid bart
@Chief_Brody
@Chief_Brody 2 жыл бұрын
Nice explanation.
@intrepidus3378
@intrepidus3378 2 жыл бұрын
Certain player types just do the most random things that I sometimes go into auto call mode with anything resembling a "good" hand. It can make playing in games like this very frustrating. But, I try to consider the times that they get me the price I pay for having the fish at the table. It's good for the fish to get off with the bate from time to time. It keeps them coming back. And those chips are still in play. You can't look at the hand in a vacuum.
@mattt.4395
@mattt.4395 2 жыл бұрын
"get off with the bate"
@michaelfluharty7904
@michaelfluharty7904 2 жыл бұрын
Bart. In my recreational opinion you (as always) played the hand perfectly
@DreadX10
@DreadX10 2 жыл бұрын
He played the hand correctly, not perfectly as 'perfectly' would've been to call.
@Strombonio
@Strombonio Ай бұрын
I don’t see anybody talking about this - what do we think about a bet/fold on the river? I had the idea in mind on the turn, especially on a brick river (2x not of hearts, maybe an offsuit board pairing card), but even on the heart river, i think your range is way too capped if you check. I think if you make it $2000-$2750 on the river, worse hands can still call, and better hands will jam and it’s a trivial fold.
@brickriver9627
@brickriver9627 2 жыл бұрын
That was a boss shove
@loganholt2290
@loganholt2290 2 жыл бұрын
Great fold. The straight and flush draws both hit on river. I really hate being put in this spot.
@danduggan971
@danduggan971 2 жыл бұрын
Does a value/blocking bet of $2.5k make sense and takes the bluffs out as you're priced in at that point? Great video, thanks for sharing.
@Strombonio
@Strombonio Ай бұрын
I just made a comment with this exact idea. I think $2500 might be too big, and you risk pricing yourself into a call if opponent jams. Bart mentioned that he miscalculated his opponent’s stack in the moment, and i think that’s a big reason he decided on check instead of bet
@patrick_kyker
@patrick_kyker 2 жыл бұрын
When you're getting three or four callers should you raise your pre-flop amount?
@DreadX10
@DreadX10 2 жыл бұрын
Or improve your post-flop play if increasing the size of your pfr doesn't work.
@jackryan716
@jackryan716 Жыл бұрын
Even though you're going to get bluffed some of the time it's more profitable to fold in this scenario. Things become more complicated when your opponents turn hands into bluffs at a high frequency. The key is to identify how aggro and bluff happy certain players are.
@leorubio5653
@leorubio5653 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Bart, you haven't attempted to talk to Mike about it yet to see if he was betting for value or turned his hand into a bleff? Thanks for sharing Bart! :)
@CrushlivePoker
@CrushlivePoker 2 жыл бұрын
Nope. And I doubt really think I ever will. Not appropriate in my view
@billyzummo7934
@billyzummo7934 2 жыл бұрын
Love you Bart!!!
@jakobyuksel6418
@jakobyuksel6418 2 жыл бұрын
Decided on a fold aswell
@PlaygroundComed1
@PlaygroundComed1 2 жыл бұрын
Live a lot of other days, Bart! Please do! :)
@majidivari1863
@majidivari1863 2 жыл бұрын
100% overfolding river in this kinda spot. Olivier Busquet once mention( to have a big win rate )overfolding river specially big bets it's often if not always nutish range. Money that we lose by hero calling is way more than when we win. So good players know how and when folding.
@skadidota392
@skadidota392 2 жыл бұрын
I like the video w/ blacked out cards.
@josecubaron8331
@josecubaron8331 2 жыл бұрын
Mike Mia should do a video on this hand.
@neilquinn
@neilquinn 2 жыл бұрын
Wowww AJ last hand I expect here haha. Original flop is so dry and he doesn’t have 9x after turn bet unless he had hearts like you said. I’m a nit but this is a fold all day to me. Hard to imagine bluffs that make it to river except a poorly played 87 and 76
@janvdplaat3067
@janvdplaat3067 Жыл бұрын
Because of the possible heart flush, a bluff on the river is very tempting to villains (like Mike). The villain knows how rational Bart plays and knows also Bart will fold, if there is a real chance he could have hearts. One way Bart can possibly/maybe prevent this, is to bid 2000 on the river (5410). Agree? .
@shawnchouinard268
@shawnchouinard268 2 жыл бұрын
Its a textbook fold yep
@johnnytwotimes7854
@johnnytwotimes7854 2 жыл бұрын
This was a Mike Postle play by Nia here lol
@johandennis8824
@johandennis8824 2 жыл бұрын
He maybe tried to bluff any smaller flush off their hand since he had ace of heart.
@academicdeaneducation6671
@academicdeaneducation6671 2 жыл бұрын
The bet was for value. Your river check was perceived as a weak A and he polarized his hand hoping for a call. The question, to me, is "what did my behavior suggest to my opponent"? Obviously, your action gave him the impression, rightly or wrongly, that you were trying to get to showdown cheap and he didn't want to lose value against the weaker A he THOUGHT you had. He simply misread you but got the right result because of his position. Personally, if you believe he is incapable of such a misreading, you have to fold. On the other hand, if you believe your hand's strength is disguised and he IS capable if a misread, you call. A small bets may have provided you with that information. Just a thought.
@JonyBetancourt
@JonyBetancourt 2 жыл бұрын
Bart by checking the river didn’t you cap yourself to a one pair hand? Pretty much any two pair that you have in this spot will want to bet for value. So if Mike knows this is true, he can jam for value against your other 1 pair hands that want to hero call him, and get you to fold out the only 1 pair hand that beats him.
@ExiTeCA
@ExiTeCA 2 жыл бұрын
mike doesn't know that lmao
@JonyBetancourt
@JonyBetancourt 2 жыл бұрын
@@ExiTeCA which value hands two pair or better is Bart checking there? Bart talks about bet/folding thin for value all the time. Do you think he’s checking A10 there?
@scottbrown110
@scottbrown110 2 жыл бұрын
He most likely knows AJ is no good after you go for 2 streets into 3 people. You're not betting the turn with any worse hands other than backdoor hearts, which gets there. Checking to him once the backdoor flush completes gives him the green light to jam with almost all of his range as you're almost always going for value with AA/KK/AK. Your hand very much looks like AQ or AJ. As played the stack sizes make make bet/folding 1/2 pot tough as you'll be getting almost 4:1 on a call off. For me, the in between turn sizing leads to the river problem. Out of position against multiple opponents a smaller sizing of 1/3 pot would give you enough stack depth to comfortably bet/fold 1/2 pot on the river.
@damienpaul
@damienpaul Жыл бұрын
Well you know what they say, "If you're not folding the best hand every now and then, you're probably not folding enough"
@mikedove1344
@mikedove1344 2 жыл бұрын
tough spot, i would have folded there also.... great content
@acetyl4088
@acetyl4088 2 жыл бұрын
While you went through this hand I thought about it from my perspective and there were really only two hands that get to the river which you beat: AJ and maybe A8. I think jamming the river is either a genius or bonehead play - genius if he puts you on exactly AQ and bonehead if he thinks he genuinely has the best hand there. It's one of those shitty spots where there just aren't many value hands for you so it's tough to lead on the river. He just happened to have one of the few value hands that calls down to the river. I think if you bet 2/3 pot on turn and then check river he checks it back, but the less than half pot turn bet may seem a little weak, combined with the check on the river although I would have played it similarly. I would maybe lean towards a call if the river was a heart other than a 10 though, because I think the line he took was very A10/AJ heavy but you only beat one of those two combinations.
@fufupaly88
@fufupaly88 2 жыл бұрын
didnt know what he had either before watching this. However, if he has 2 hearts in his hand, he only has AhXh cuz you did bet flop and he calls with ppl behide him to act still. It's very unlikely he has a float on the flop, and he didn't raise you on the turn to protect his hand says he probably don't have a set. So, if you are folding the river, I guess that means you are 95% sure you are folding AhXh. He could be value bet the river with AT.
@nsant
@nsant 2 жыл бұрын
Chat pros with a < $2k bankroll: "That's a snap call"
@robertmoeller6871
@robertmoeller6871 2 жыл бұрын
the crux of the hand is deciding to bet flop so multi-way. you said it yourself, you’ve been x all the flops you bricked so why not protect your x range. sure, you can assume that absolutely no one is paying attention to tendencies in this game but in the case someone is you are gonna get owned (not the case this hand). also the issue with betting is that you need to assume Mike Nias range is really strong considering he has been calling you down oop otf and ott. standard fold otr.
@srebrinabalova1145
@srebrinabalova1145 2 жыл бұрын
I think this may have been a bluff, not value betting. But I may be wrong. The A❤️ bluff representing the nut flush is a standard one, in my opinion. From watching Mike Nia play, he is definitely capable of making bluffs in different spots. I would be 50/50 to call, but I would lead more towards calling, because it is a multi-way pot and if Mike had a really good hand, he might've raised instead of just calling.
@CrushlivePoker
@CrushlivePoker 2 жыл бұрын
Take a look at my pinned comment. I am not including any slowplays. The Th at the river literally makes more combos he arrives with here better than AQ vs worse.
@srebrinabalova1145
@srebrinabalova1145 2 жыл бұрын
True. Many combos beat your hand on the river. So in the long run, I agree that a fold is the right play based on the number of combos that win over your hand. The river is a bad card for sure. I just always wonder when I check river in this type of situation, whether this conveys weakness and signals to the opponent a good opportunity to bluff if he did have a weaker holding. I wonder what would Mike have done if you did a blocker bet on the river. Would he still shove?
@soxinseven04
@soxinseven04 2 жыл бұрын
I won't argue for calling as played, but I would argue that you should be using larger bet sizes on the flop and turn in these very loose games.
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