The Vespa was designed by a man who hated Motorcycles

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@mikebikekite1
@mikebikekite1 Жыл бұрын
I used to ride large motorcycles and never even glanced at scooters. Then, one day at a motor show, I sat on a Vespa GS 200 and I thought I could live with this. It did everything I needed, it was fun to ride, it was economical, I could carry more with it and it seemed to need minimal maintenance. I also loved the look of the thing. I normally changed my motorbike every couple of years but I ended up with 2 Vespas, the GS200 and then the GS250, for the next 20 years. I only gave up riding them when the thieves in my city worked out how to steal them. Shame, I miss riding them.
@s70cas7ic0
@s70cas7ic0 Жыл бұрын
I had a vespa 50 with a tuned up 125. She was a hoot
@Eduardo_Espinoza
@Eduardo_Espinoza Жыл бұрын
Practicality is beauty
@rocketspushoffair
@rocketspushoffair Жыл бұрын
i hope you get another VESPA! BAD THEIVES!
@tuguybear930
@tuguybear930 Жыл бұрын
I can't wait until hand amputation becomes compulsory for thieves.
@kennypool
@kennypool Жыл бұрын
Yes, twenty minutes on the helix and my 750/4 was on craigslist. Although in retrospect I wish I'd kept it. Who knows? Anyways the Vespas are wildly overpriced, I stick with Honda
@nickedmett1
@nickedmett1 Жыл бұрын
Enjoying a morning coffee al fresco on a Greek island several years ago a Vespa glided past with a family aboard. Father was in control, mother was behind him, cradling a baby. Behind her, on the luggage rack were her two other children, riding back to back with their legs dangling over the engine cover. to complete the load a sheep peered out from between the fathers legs. Six riders - one scooter - no problem!
@CockatooDude
@CockatooDude 7 ай бұрын
How to destroy your wheel bearings with one easy step!
@bloopasonic
@bloopasonic Жыл бұрын
I was fueling my Vespa near a popular biker spot next to a group of Harley riders some time ago. They all looked the part, big bikes, shiny chrome, heavy leathers. One of them walks up to me and silently looks me and the Vespa over for a while. Then he looks at me and says: "You know, secretly we all want to ride one of these!"
@markallen2984
@markallen2984 10 ай бұрын
I don’t think he was talking about your scooter……he was talking about you 😂
@staninjapan07
@staninjapan07 9 ай бұрын
I feel the same every time I see a Honda Cub, even when I am on my bigger bike. I reckon they are the coolest bike ever made, yet they are (or were until they made them fancy recently), just a simple, reliable tool.
@mustaqimarifin3820
@mustaqimarifin3820 8 ай бұрын
lmao@@markallen2984
@fredorico41
@fredorico41 7 ай бұрын
🤮🤮🤮 not real motorcycle, come on you don't see these doing the Isle Man TT
@leeinwis
@leeinwis 6 ай бұрын
DOUBT
@williamwintemberg
@williamwintemberg Жыл бұрын
In all my years, I must admit to never being a Vespa fan. After watching this video, I'm still not a fan but I do understand it's significance. Always an outstanding video on this channel!
@indonesiaamerica7050
@indonesiaamerica7050 Жыл бұрын
They're for high density urban situations. The only feel right at relatively low speeds.
@s70cas7ic0
@s70cas7ic0 Жыл бұрын
​@@indonesiaamerica7050eactly! Drive a vespa in an old italian town, you'll fall in love immediately!
@kylejohnson423
@kylejohnson423 Жыл бұрын
​@@indonesiaamerica7050Yo, I had a piaggio scoot just for running errands in an urban environment in the U.S. It just kind of works. Granted, I later traded it in for something that could do highway speeds, but I had to cover the thing in cases and bags just to match the simple utility of the scoot.
@ligametis
@ligametis Жыл бұрын
Vespa at least looks better than any other motorcycle
@robertonavarro7713
@robertonavarro7713 Жыл бұрын
A scooter is more like a micro mini car designed for traveling along congested city streets. It can hold a lot of office or grocery stuffs in the lockable underseat storage. In a motorcycle, you need to haul your various stuffs in your backpack if you don't have saddlebags.
@wooddavid8293
@wooddavid8293 Жыл бұрын
Back in the day on a scooter forum, the subject was how people would call your scooter a moped. One guy said the when someone called his Vespa a moped, he would correct them. Saying "it's not a moped, it's a post-war Italian lady's shopping bike". Scooter Boy for Life!
@stephenremington8448
@stephenremington8448 Жыл бұрын
Them hot hatchback cars - granny shopping wagons.
@WafflePlaneRC
@WafflePlaneRC Жыл бұрын
The moped forums are even worse- go asking a question about a *scooter* and you'll be chased right out!
@stephenremington8448
@stephenremington8448 Жыл бұрын
Back in the 70s when I started buying Easyrider magazine, I remember thinking it seemed unusual that Harley-Davidson riders were calling their motorbikes 'scooters' and 'scoots', also they called their engine a 'mill'.
@jhoughjr1
@jhoughjr1 Жыл бұрын
MOPBOYZ
@babboon5764
@babboon5764 Жыл бұрын
@@WafflePlaneRC There are MOPED Forums? *Evolution must be running in reverse*
@NormanF62
@NormanF62 Жыл бұрын
One of the most iconic vehicles of all time and when people see a scooter, the name Vespa recalls it for them! Next to the Fiat, its association with Italy is unmistakable.
@Farweasel
@Farweasel Жыл бұрын
Cos no one outside Italy would buy such lousy machinery Fiat was long a bye-word for 'in competition with Lada'
@Eduardo_Espinoza
@Eduardo_Espinoza Жыл бұрын
@Farweasel We got old Vespas on sale all the time in the classifieds.
@Farweasel
@Farweasel Жыл бұрын
@@Eduardo_Espinoza In that case - My condolences
@weeliano
@weeliano Жыл бұрын
My Dad rode and Vespa PX-150 and I remember my entire family of 5 riding on it in the 1970s. I loved the Piaggio brand and its associated vehicles. I went on to own the Piaggio maxi scooter X8 200 which shared many of the same design principles of its predecessors. Wonderful scooter to ride! Excellent documentary and great archive footage!
@supervespadude
@supervespadude Жыл бұрын
Great video. I've worked at a Vespa dealer in the past and still specialize in vintage Vespa resto. You really fall in love with the old ones. Their like old vw bugs on two wheels, tons of personality
@kariudo
@kariudo Жыл бұрын
I have to vote the Honda Super Cub is the most important icon in the automotive industry. Not to downplay the timeless significance of the Vespa, and its earlier attempt at a "polite" motorcycle for the masses.
@helloworld963
@helloworld963 Жыл бұрын
I ride Chinese a Super Cub replica daily to commute around 80km(~50miles) Despite vibration this bike is rugged and very useful.
@aaronleverton4221
@aaronleverton4221 Жыл бұрын
@@helloworld963 My actual C50 Supercub does not excessively vibrate. I have to assume that when you say "Chinese...replica" you are probably talking about a Chinese clone of a much newer step-through like the Honda Dream/Wave etc. To kariudo, you are not wrong, but [insert some insanely long, technical and boring argument here that attempts in its entirety to ignore observable outcomes] something about Japanese mass production scale bludgeoning everything in its path.
@vesparraf
@vesparraf Жыл бұрын
The Honda Super Cub is a mere copy of earlier Moto Guzzi Galleto. its only merit is mass production
@aaronleverton4221
@aaronleverton4221 Жыл бұрын
@@vesparraf No, clutchless gear-shift and 40 million sales to prove you wrong.
@vesparraf
@vesparraf Жыл бұрын
@@aaronleverton4221 🤣🤣 so that's your reasoning to prove the super cub is not a copy of the Galleto?? It had a 3 speed pedal operated gearbox and the shape and function was clearly ahead of its time. The super cub only proves 2 things: Japanese back then we're closely payomg attention to (copying) all other European manufacturers and that they had a much stronger production power, selling bikes all over the world.
@calcagnolibero
@calcagnolibero Жыл бұрын
When an average italian thought about motorbike in the mid '40s he did not think of Indian, HD or Triumph. He thought of a Moto Guzzi that has been winning races ( Europe and World Championships and Tourist Trophy) and innovating the motorbikes scene since the 30s.
@ericcsuf
@ericcsuf Жыл бұрын
I've ridden motorcycles for 50 years and always had a sort of condescending view of scooters based on absolutely nothing but bias. I was a little surprised that your video was so positive about scooters and their rightful place in motorcycle history. I'm going to be looking at them a little differently now. Excellent well-researched video..as always.
@sus8e462
@sus8e462 Жыл бұрын
And a twist, a 400cc scooter... I recently got a Piaggio BV400 & though I absolutely love my 2013 Vespa 946, it's 150cc & a little challenged on hills & freeways (on flat, it can go 65, but perfect for smaller curvy roads), but do now wonder if a few folks were shocked that they were passed by a scooter 😅.
@ericcsuf
@ericcsuf Жыл бұрын
@@sus8e462 Some time in the 80's my wife and I were two-up on a BMW on the Bayshore Hwy in the SF Bay area. It was late at night, I was in the #1 lane and a couple of motorcycles were coming up FAST behind me with the headlights shaking a little from pavement joints. I thought it must be some choppers as they often have shaky headlights. I pulled over one lane to let them pass. It was three guys on scooters doing over 70 mph. I later learned that there were 500 cc scooters so maybe that's what they were.
@philtucker1224
@philtucker1224 Жыл бұрын
I’ve got to say that was a really nicely presented video. I was a scooter boy myself in back in 1970 and still find them just as interesting today. Thank you for sharing such a thoroughly well researched episode. 👏
@kennypool
@kennypool Жыл бұрын
I was a motorcycle guy from 14 to about 40. Then I tried a Honda helix, im 66 now, still have my third helix ( flipped 2 for my 07) also have a reflex and i keep a 750 shadow just for slow cruising. I guess my point is, enjoy the simple practical easy going scooter life
@sugarnads
@sugarnads Жыл бұрын
I had a 2019 Z900. Went to thailand last year and zoomed around on a yamaha 155 scooter. Came home and unowned the z900 and got an xmax 300. I have some skeletal issue which was making it harder for me to ride the kawasaki. I love my scooter. Its fast enough. It handles well. I can go shopping and get 4 bags of shopping under the seat. (I cannot over emphasise how much i love having storage on a motorcycle that isnt fucking panniers.) My left ankle doesnt die trying to change gears ( arthritis). Love it
@kennypool
@kennypool Жыл бұрын
@@sugarnads good choice.
@nickiemcnichols5397
@nickiemcnichols5397 Жыл бұрын
I noticed he didn’t mention the Ducati.
@bryanmelton5538
@bryanmelton5538 Жыл бұрын
THATS GREAT
@kennypool
@kennypool Жыл бұрын
@LaneAWD_OwO yes, I snatch up any good deals I see on helix/reflex for quick flips. Not ready for the super cub yet, they need a 250cc Cub
@teacherdude
@teacherdude Жыл бұрын
Piaggio had to innovate or die in the 1990's and their decision to redo the Vespa saved the company from cheaper, more modern Asian competitors. These wiped out many US and European manufacturers who simply thought they could keep on putting out the same product, year in, year out. BTW another movie with a great Vespa sequence is Dear Diary (1993) by Nanni Morietti
@InXLsisDeo
@InXLsisDeo Жыл бұрын
You can see Vespas everywhere in Munich. It's easy to spot dozens everyday there.
@mikefawkes5195
@mikefawkes5195 Жыл бұрын
British motorcycle industry was the classic example of pompous and antiquated attitudes 1969 was the year the bike was Honda cb 750 the day the industry changed ,British literally Would not change and that was it. Whereas Italians absolutely did
@paulandrews7622
@paulandrews7622 Жыл бұрын
I have ridden Vespas since passing my test on a PX125 in 1982. Helped form a Scooter Club in 1983 and am still obsessed with them to this day. As they say, once a Scooter Boy, always a Scooter Boy. Great video and all the best from the UK !!
@DEVOn.A.Skertic
@DEVOn.A.Skertic Жыл бұрын
P200-E., Grey. My sister had a PX-125 which was bored out to a 177. ( Navy Blue with chrome chowls) 2- Tone! 2 Rude!
@astro61362
@astro61362 Жыл бұрын
My first "motorcycle" was a 50cc Honda Metropolitan. I loved that little scooter! I've always had a soft spot for scooters because of it. Thanks for the interesting video.
@slow_ae2676
@slow_ae2676 Жыл бұрын
In Indonesia it's called ''Scoopy" with 110cc and they're everywhere! Hell, 2 out of 10 motorbike parked in my flat rn is a scoopy
@jackfrost2146
@jackfrost2146 Жыл бұрын
I remember the TV ads back then---"You meet the nicest people on a Honda."
@gvillxtine2773
@gvillxtine2773 Жыл бұрын
I watched Luca with my niece when it came out, now whenever she comes over she always wants to watch motogp! That movie sparked a fire in her for bikes and I couldn't be more thrilled
@risby1930
@risby1930 Жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the video. I have owned Vespa's, Cushman's, Honda Cub's and lot's of motorcycles over the years. The Vespa served it's purpose for Italy, until the Fiat 500 came about. The little Honda Cub, did the same thing in Japan, but was able to broaden its' appeal to something more than transportation in the USA "you meet the nicest people on a Honda". I believe that all the different Cubs have sold well over 130 million through out the world making it the best selling vehicle in history.
@deltavee2
@deltavee2 Жыл бұрын
Lived in Europe last half of he '50s and Vespas were _everywhere!"_ I loved and still love the form-follows-function art of them. And the sound of the Vespa 2-stroke engine is one of the first of many engine sounds burned into my mind. My first motorcycle in the mid '60s was a 2-stroke Yamaha 100cc "Tin Twin" as they were called. Rode the hell out of it. Tough little bike.
@pauloconnor7951
@pauloconnor7951 Жыл бұрын
Well told Bart. The genius of creation of one person. Not listening to market research or boffins. The mechanical artist.
@CockatooDude
@CockatooDude 7 ай бұрын
He was a boffin himself.
@murraycharters6102
@murraycharters6102 Жыл бұрын
I am 79 now and ride a 2017 Suzuki VStrom 650 XT. However, I purchased a Vespa when I was 17 years old still going to high school. I loved that little escape machine. I can’t remember what year model it was but it had the headlight on the front mudguard. It never gave me an ounce of trouble and I put a lot of miles on it. I remember the day I sold it to a guy at Highgate Hill in Brisbane. I remember riding it to his place as if it were yesterday, but I can’t remember who I bought it off second hand. I am told that if I still had the Vespa it would be worth a lot of money now. I had two crashes on it. One when I slipped over with diesel fuel on a corner, and once when riding down a hill at night, a dog ran out at me. I hit the dog and went down. I can still see the sparks coming off the Vespa as it slid down the road. Mum lost her nerve and suggested I sell it. I did sell it after I had it repaired and purchased a 1954 Hillman Minx car with money I had earned myself. I still have many many happy memories of my Vespa. By the way the bloody dog ran off apparently unhurt. I lost some bark and torn clothes.
@JukeboxGothic
@JukeboxGothic Жыл бұрын
I have had Vespas since 85 and Lambretta's before that. I've also owned motorcycles alongside scooters. I use the Vespa like most would use a car. Bad weather take the Vespa, short trip, take the Vespa. Parking somewhere where some idiot might knock over one of my nice bikes, take the Vespa. My current PX200 looks like its been to Hell and back but it still keeps going. It gets a lot of use. I can rebuild it in a good weekend. I love my old motorcycles but the Vespa is also special and always puts a smile on my face.
@geraldscott4302
@geraldscott4302 Жыл бұрын
I love Vespas. I have two. a 1979 P200E, and a 2006 GT200. The P200E is by far the most fun. It is a kick start, manual shift, manual clutch 200cc 2 stroke. It's about as mechanical as it gets. It makes beautiful sounds, has a wonderful feel, and requires a LOT of interaction with the rider. And to me that is what all motor vehicles are about. That's what makes them so much fun. The GT200 is a completely different thing. It has almost none of the qualities that I think a machine should have. It is basically a twist and go transportation appliance, devoid of any kind of character. It is smooth and quiet, it has a shiftless CVT drive, it is electric start, and liquid cooled. I still think the styling is beautiful, and wish it had a 2 stroke manual shift engine. It's one redeeming quality is that it is carbureted. It is one of the last carbureted Vespas made. So while it is smooth, quiet, and fairly boring, it is still, for the most part a machine. Just an over refined one. It serves well as a transportation device, both in town and on the highway, but it's not really a recreational bike like the P200E is. After 2006 Vespa went down the road to scooter oblivion, making nothing but computerscooters. A sad end to something that started out as such a cool idea.
@monaabbyhamedani917
@monaabbyhamedani917 Жыл бұрын
I feel the same way about my two - I've ridden the same 2009 S50 every day since it was new and although l love its loyalty (and it's a 2 stroke) it doesn't feel special or involving like my '79 50N.
@theogantenbein7870
@theogantenbein7870 Жыл бұрын
Moving the headlight from the fender to the handling bar was the icing on the cake, designwise. It looks 100% better in my opinion.
@quak0707
@quak0707 Жыл бұрын
When I turned 14, 5 years ago, my dad got me a 1980 Vespa 50 special. It’s the most fun thing I probably will ever own
@coffeeisgood102
@coffeeisgood102 Жыл бұрын
As a long time BMW motorcycle owner who has traveled across Canada and the US, I have always admired the Vespa for its design and civil attitude. It set itself apart from other scooters and bikes and had no real competition in its class until Honda brought out their version of a scooter. I’m waiting to see if Vespa brings out an electric model. If they do I’m sure it will be special and I will park one in my driveway.
@pratyushjayachandran
@pratyushjayachandran Жыл бұрын
They do have an electric model. Don't know if it is launched in the area you live though.
@LymanPhillips
@LymanPhillips Жыл бұрын
I think a scooter is inevitable for the US. Can't wait.
@stephenburnage7687
@stephenburnage7687 Жыл бұрын
No competition? What zbout the Lambretta?
@coffeeisgood102
@coffeeisgood102 Жыл бұрын
@@stephenburnage7687 I’ll look that up. Never heard of it.
@stevenwilliams1805
@stevenwilliams1805 Жыл бұрын
​@@LymanPhillips inevitable for urban areas perhaps but, America is too vast for many people to start riding two wheelers. Trucks and SUVs are definitely going to be a deterrent for many you don't even feel safe driving amongst those giants in regular cars.
@samuraizach442
@samuraizach442 Жыл бұрын
I ride a Kymco Like 150i, it looks like vespa with basically a Honda engine. Scooters are outrageously fun, approachable and highly practical. I commute on mine everyday in Oregon weather (rain,sun, etc) and I like to say “I’m having the most fun of anyone going less than 45mph.” Score yourself a deal on one and I guarantee you won’t regret it.
@henrymach
@henrymach Жыл бұрын
The best designs are the ones that really solve a problem. The Vespa did it so well it became an icon
@Janika-xj2bv
@Janika-xj2bv Жыл бұрын
THIS is top quality content. Thank you. From Reggio Calabria 🇮🇹
@michaelb.42112
@michaelb.42112 7 ай бұрын
I've "graduated" from big Vtwins to scooters at 55 years old and couldn't be happier.
@peteb2304
@peteb2304 Жыл бұрын
Bart, I love your videos. You find the best archival footage and stills, and wrap them in knowledgeable and entertaining commentary. You, sir, are the Ken Burns of motorcycle history.
@louislopez55
@louislopez55 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video, your best one yet! I think this video will be used in design school classrooms everywhere.
@afonsoalves9704
@afonsoalves9704 Жыл бұрын
Two things you didn't say: I heard that the initial vespa engines were starter motors for aircraft engines, and that the wheels were airplane tail wheels
@axelboltz3077
@axelboltz3077 Жыл бұрын
By the power of Ctrl + F i found your comment before making my own comment with the same content. So here i am to support that statement!
@afonsoalves9704
@afonsoalves9704 Жыл бұрын
@@axelboltz3077 just felt like it's such a shame he didn't mention it cause it's such an interesting curiosity
@Ntmoffi
@Ntmoffi Жыл бұрын
So it was basically a pony motor that got repurposed.
@barryervin8536
@barryervin8536 Жыл бұрын
I believe the motor was from a hoist used to lift bombs into the bomb bay on a Piaggio bomber.
@wesleycardinal8869
@wesleycardinal8869 Жыл бұрын
Another great chapter bart. The mighty Vespa! I am convinced that if riders bought bikes with their brains instead of their hearts, we would all be riding scooters of one sort or another. But the Vespa is both practical and beautiful, one of the marks of a true classic, like the Honda cub. Thanks again 👍🇦🇺
@stevenwilliams1805
@stevenwilliams1805 Жыл бұрын
How very true. Many do buy things based off of anything but practicality. Case in point, an estate would be perfectly suitable in place of the crossover SUVs that are out selling everything. But you can't say station wagon without someone going "ew that's a family car." So they buy an SUV for their family. 🤦
@CheesusCrustus
@CheesusCrustus Жыл бұрын
It always depends on for what role you want to use the vehicle. For most people in the west (including me) a motorcycle is more of a fun toy. The Vespa practicality works great for short commutes, but they're not made for carving or traveling, unless you like going really really slow. It can be done, I even saw many Vespa clubs while touring the alps (great guys), but they're clearly not made for it. Always depends on what role you want your vehicle to fulfill.
@hathaway.1166
@hathaway.1166 5 күн бұрын
i feel so lucky that a 2013 LXV125ie and a 80s Japanese Super Cub lives under the same roof of mine❤
@gadgetsglamour269
@gadgetsglamour269 Жыл бұрын
Our first family vehicle is Vespa. I just it. Seeing your is going down memory lane.. liked your video Vespa is a Marvelous Design A Design for Masses..❤️❤️👌👌
@wayneyadams
@wayneyadams Жыл бұрын
The first time I saw a Vespa was when I had my paper route. I delivered and afternoon paper which was picked up and folded in the driveway of the route manager. Two brothers had Vespas which they used to deliver papers. The rules said we had to use bicycles, but the route manger relented and let them use their Vespas. I remember how cool they looked and I really wanted one. In all these years, I never bought one, but they are still super cool.
@caty863
@caty863 Жыл бұрын
That *"something to straddle"* is what makes me in control when I am riding.
@philliprobinson7724
@philliprobinson7724 Жыл бұрын
Hi. Great video, thanks. My only gripe with riding the Vespa was the very stretchy cable operated gear-change mechanism, and the lack of a positive stop gearbox like my Tiger 100 motorbike. Once into third gear, you had to be double-jointed to pull in the clutch to return to second or neutral. It was worse with the four speed box, the clutch lever went for a walkabout around the handlebar. However if imitation is the sincerest form of compliment, the Vespa wins hands down. Douglas Motors made Vespas under license in GB. Italian Lambretta, and even Britain's BSA and Triumph made lookalikes. The Triumph Tigress 250 cc 4 stroke twin scooter was intended to burn off Vespas at the lights, but couldn't. The same scooter as a BSA Sunbeam 175 sported a 2 stroke single, but the extra 25cc of British muscle for some reason didn't get through to the back wheel. That's why I was a "rocker", rather than a "mod". Any "likely lad" today who wants to get a feel for what it was like growing up in the fifties and sixties need only Google the hit song "Just for kicks", by Mike Sarne. "The kicks" were the kick starters of course. (A "likely lad" was any lad likely to get into "the odd spot of bovver") Cheers, P.R.
@Mehmehmeeeeeeh
@Mehmehmeeeeeeh Жыл бұрын
When the Mini first came on the road in the UK , a heater and the radeo was an optional EXTRA ,you also needed a radio license .
@jimbroen
@jimbroen 6 ай бұрын
I've owned a lot of vehicles that appear in your video. Early Mini, first gen GSXR 750, Grom and a Vespa (250 GTS.) The GTS was a first class machine. It weighed 384 lbs and had a saddle that kept two good sized adults comfortable on a longer ride. I rode eight thousand kilometers over two years of ownership. It's one of my favourite of the many bikes I've owned since the mid 1970s.
@АлбертАйнщайн-з1р
@АлбертАйнщайн-з1р Жыл бұрын
Nice quality content. Keep it up that way bart. Post war machines are proof nothing can break human spirit. If you can't fly, then run. If you can't run, then walk. If you can't walk, then crawl. but whatever you do, you have to keep moving forward.
@vetto._.630
@vetto._.630 Жыл бұрын
My dad in 1986 bought a Vespa Px125 arcobaleno E and still to this day he drives it like he was young again. I really like driving it , im glad my dad bought it
@Rom3_29
@Rom3_29 Жыл бұрын
Few years ago, driving home from work at midnight. It was cold and raining buckets. Earlier it had been nice, warm and sunny day. I saw this poor fellow riding his scooter without rain gear and open face helmet on a highway. He was going about 50 mph and getting splashed and sprayed from passing cars.
@leendeen8745
@leendeen8745 Жыл бұрын
…and
@usernamemykel
@usernamemykel Жыл бұрын
@@leendeen8745 ...and he had a real-world experience, not looking at the world from inside an air conditioned, rain-free enclosure. Riding around in a car is like seeing all around you watching a movie. Riding a scooter or motorcycle is EXPERIENCING everything (wind, noise, smells, etc.) around you - nothing 'artificial".
@Rom3_29
@Rom3_29 Жыл бұрын
@@usernamemykel - all though it looked funny. I did feel envy not being able to ride motorcycle like I used to.
@onerider808
@onerider808 7 ай бұрын
“Beauty comes from function in a more powerful way than if you’re just trying to make something beautiful.” Nice.
@CockatooDude
@CockatooDude 7 ай бұрын
I disagree with his assessment, but it is occasionally true. Mainly though we just remember the functional objects which also happen to be appealing. Contrast the B-2 with a Cessna 172. The designs of both are strictly influenced by their function and both are iconic, but we remember one for being beautiful and always use the other one as the butt of a joke.
@leaningtoweravenger
@leaningtoweravenger Жыл бұрын
Howdy! Beautiful video, but I would like to add a couple of things. The engine at the beginning wasn't designed or build on purpose but it was a starter engine for bombers: as they couldn't build bombers anymore, they had starters engine to reuse somehow. If you happen to know Italian or find an Italian friend to help understanding it, in 2019 the Italian state TV produced a multi episode TV movie on the life of Enrico Piaggio which is called "Enrico Piaggio", it is good and it talks extensively about the Vespa too. If you are in Pisa or Florence, go to Pontedera (by train it is 15 minutes from Pisa or 30 from Florence) and go to the Piaggio museum, which is inside the Factory (10 / 15 minutes walk from the station), as it either costs you €0 (zero) to visit on your own or €5 to get the guided tour.
@Emalythe
@Emalythe Жыл бұрын
Thanks for putting together a great history video. As a longtime Vespa rider and former Mini owner, I never considered the idea that the two were very similar.
@0MoTheG
@0MoTheG Жыл бұрын
The sheet metal work is great. I can not comprehend how it can be so round.
@diobrando19
@diobrando19 2 ай бұрын
By far the best video about the history of the Vespa. I do hope you'd consider making a video about how motorscooters evolved from the Vespa, to the new Maxiscooters by Suzuki like the Burgman, etc.
@geewhizhk
@geewhizhk Жыл бұрын
"When the average italian think of motorcycles, he thinks of triumph or harley". Well... there were italian motorcycles in existence in those days, Ducati, Moto Guzzi, Benelli, etc.
@simonnomis5302
@simonnomis5302 Жыл бұрын
i have a 50s smallframe in Greece....simple ultra ultra ultra ultra ultra ultra reliable ,Brings a smile on my face everytime
@Christopher_Giustolisi
@Christopher_Giustolisi 3 ай бұрын
The best thing about the Piaggio vespa is that it gave us the Piaggio Ape, which to this day combines hauling capacity and utility with the comfort of sitting in a metal box.
@SevenDeMagnus
@SevenDeMagnus Жыл бұрын
Well done, well done Enrico Piaggio for Vespa and Corradino d'Ascanio for designing the Vespa or Wasp in Italian, you made scooters stylish and maybe even invented scooters. God bless his soul.
@lpd1snipe
@lpd1snipe Жыл бұрын
Great video! I remember first starting to see Vespa scooters and the Honda step through models in the 1960s, along with a few Cushmans that were still out there.
@usernamemykel
@usernamemykel Жыл бұрын
I found this of interest because have a Genuine "Buddy 50 "2 stroke scooter, made in Taiwan (not crappy China) AND a Honda "GROM". The "Buddy" is built with the reliability of any Honda product - it's a 2018 model and I've had NO issues with it in the five years I've owned it. Both the "Buddy" (made by "PGO", a premier manufacturer of scooters) and the "GROM" are so very much FUN to ride, and certainly easy to ride at my current age of 78 years (Imperial, not Metric). It's amazing how tight a turn one can make with either ride by making either heavily LEAN into the turn.
@staninjapan07
@staninjapan07 9 ай бұрын
Very well put-together video, thanks. At the end of the opening words, I had expected to hear "Honda Cub", though I knew they would not be spoken. I certainly agree that there is a beauty in simplicity, and especially in small, round-town bikes.
@rickmcdonald1557
@rickmcdonald1557 Жыл бұрын
Great video and History Lesson~!! I saw the funniest picture the other day and it showed an old dark green Vespa sitting on it's lift-up kick stand and painted across the back of the big wide seat it said= "No, I don't want a Harley"~! Damn funny~!
@InXLsisDeo
@InXLsisDeo Жыл бұрын
There is an incredible return of Vespas in Europe. I was in Munich a few weeks ago, and the Vespas are everywhere. It's easy to spot more than 2 dozens a day while walking the streets.
@davmac6148
@davmac6148 Жыл бұрын
I had a 125 cc Vespa when I was 17 years old, I was using it to go for rides to go to school and when was raining I wasn't getting water on my feet and legs while my friends on motorcycles did. It was good in winter all I had to wear was good gloves and a good jacket while my legs were always protected from cold air. Very light and very easy to drive. The good old days very GOOD FUN ! more fun than PlayStation 5.
@G58
@G58 Жыл бұрын
My first bike was a Honda C50 Cub. What we need to understand about that bike is that before designing and manufacturing the Cub, Mr Honda looked at everything being produced by every manufacturer all over the world, including Italian scooters. He recognised the advantages of low centre of gravity, load-bearing step-through frame, leading link front suspension and leg shields. Yet because he understood the market, and approached the task without small minded prejudices, and employed proper sized wheels, the machine he produced was not just not a scooter, it was a practical motorcycle - which of course went on to become the best selling vehicle of all time. There are therefore many many reasons why I bought a Honda C50, and most of them are in the design ethos of the machine. Although still arguably not quite a proper motorcycle (they were called ‘granddad bikes in my day), it was better than a scooter in every possible way. And whilst the patent for the original scooter may describe it as a new type of motorcycle, the very fact that to this day there is virtually zero crossover between scooter riders and motorcycle riders, is evidence that they not only have totally separate DNA and serve very different purposes, but they exist in different universes. Yes they’re ‘iconic’ and probably fun to ride - if you don’t mind looking ridiculous, eat salad, drink soy milk, and have no desire to go fast, cover serious distances, or ever be taken seriously by proper bikers. As I said, different universes.
@wesleycardinal8869
@wesleycardinal8869 Жыл бұрын
People have taken cubs, and vespas around the world; they can go serious distances but you need to adventurous to try it.
@AngelSapundzhiev
@AngelSapundzhiev Жыл бұрын
Both type of riders need to think outside the box. I have a roadster naked motorcycle and a classic Vespa - I enjoyed them both equally and love having the different experience riding them. Same universe, different experiences- both bring many smiles per mile. 🙂
@PRH123
@PRH123 Жыл бұрын
Your second to last paragraph is completely meaningless for Italian scooter riders... it's used there as a daily serious transportation tool, a way to get from place to place... not to strike an image, join a group, have fun, or compete, etc... it's a perfect tool for getting around in an Italian city, large or small...
@SAM-zt2uy
@SAM-zt2uy Жыл бұрын
This video makes me want another Vespa... Already got an ET4 (first of the 4 stroke autos) but would really like an old 2 stroke PX, I've also got an old skool GSXR750 but the Vespa is so much more practical for my cross town commute and still great fun.
@fearsomename4517
@fearsomename4517 Жыл бұрын
I have respect for Vespa, I'd like to own a classic original. I miss my restored '50 Triumph Thunderbird. I won first place at Mid-Ohio bike show. Took me over 5 years to restore. Very correct.
@aaronleverton4221
@aaronleverton4221 Жыл бұрын
I had a '65 Sprint. i want another.
@savage22bolt32
@savage22bolt32 Жыл бұрын
I had a '58 Beezer. My dad wouldn't let me have a minibike or scooter. He said the wheels are too small and you hit a run and you'll go over the bars!
@AndrewUtz3
@AndrewUtz3 Жыл бұрын
I first fell in love with Vespas when I had the opportunity to travel to Rome back in university. A decade or so later I bought one, a GTS 300. That was a fun bike!
@1683clifton
@1683clifton Жыл бұрын
Watching all those clips of people motoring about on tiny machines warmed my soul. And as always I was entertained
@chanzemaffey1467
@chanzemaffey1467 Жыл бұрын
Amazing video and amazing footage, would love to see what you can dig up about Lambrettas. As a long time owner of both a vintage vespa and vintage lambretta its always fun learning new things about them, thinking I knew everything already.
@nickiemcnichols5397
@nickiemcnichols5397 Жыл бұрын
Lambrettas were very pretty. I’m surprised they went out of business.
@maryhines322
@maryhines322 Жыл бұрын
I have a 2003 Genuine Stella, a Vespa PX150 (1982) made in India for the American market. It is now 20 years old and in use every day there is no ice one the road. The last time it was at the dealer for maintenance was 18 years ago. It looks almost like brand new. The spark plug is 15 years old. It starts right up, runs fine and goes as fast as when new. I clean the air cleaner once a year, change the tires every 2-3 years, a new battery every 5-6 years, also clean out the carburetor about then. It comes with a tool kit that will do about anything you could do alongside the road. Around town I get about 100mpg. It will carry ten bags of groceries by putting plastic crates on the luggage racks. It has hauled firewood. A group of kids came from India to our church once, and when they saw it they all piled on and took it for a ride. Their leader saw this and stopped them, he said it was dangerous for 9 to be riding at once, so 2 had to get off and wait a turn. I think it will last longer than I do.
@JTSunriseMusic
@JTSunriseMusic 18 күн бұрын
Such a beautiful vehicle to be stylish on, was more about the person than any motorcycle
@trevorserfontein8399
@trevorserfontein8399 Жыл бұрын
FANTASTIC concept!..And it's STILL going STRONG!💪👊MUCH respect!🤝
@ngauruhoezodiac3143
@ngauruhoezodiac3143 Жыл бұрын
A Vespa is far more practical in city driving than a full sized motorcycle.
@unclefredsbrickslot5824
@unclefredsbrickslot5824 Жыл бұрын
I was in Italy (Sorrento) a couple of weeks ago and I would guess that every other adult was riding a Vespa. They are particularly useful for the narrow streets and alleys of a typical Italian town. Italians are terrible drivers and often zoom up behind pedestrians at high speed. At least you can hear them coming by the loud engine noise - the new-fangled electric bikes and scooters are more deadly for being silent! Great vid, bro!
@All_I_can_say_is_Wow
@All_I_can_say_is_Wow Жыл бұрын
I like to imagine a world where they made even bigger 2 stroke race bikes
@DGCastell
@DGCastell Жыл бұрын
What a great video, I never paid too much attention to the Vespa but this was eye-opening. Incredible how difficult times bring out the best of the human mastermind.
@ghoulinthegraveyard399
@ghoulinthegraveyard399 Жыл бұрын
My friend had found a late 60's red vespa with a 5-speed gearbox while going to garage sales. Spotted in the garage snagged it for $800 in the mid-nineties. I laughed at first, rode it, it was fun. Still love my motorcycles, but it was a complete original experience.
@Vee_231
@Vee_231 Жыл бұрын
We have a PX150 that's sadly been languishing in the garage since before the pandemic. Hopefully, that will change soon.
@basedury
@basedury Жыл бұрын
i’m trying to convince my girlfriend to get one so i can ride my interceptor and she can be next to me on the scoot. we would look so hipster and cool edit: there are many reasons for owning a motorcycle, but if you can’t admit to yourself that part of it is that they’re cool, then get back on your v-strom or NC750X and let me pretend i’m in the 70s on my royal enfield
@robalberts
@robalberts Жыл бұрын
Yes, we did that. .. and you will be! Cool, I mean. These two bikes go well together round town. Enjoy.
@FabioRodrigues-xs8vf
@FabioRodrigues-xs8vf Жыл бұрын
Pretty lame to get a motorcycle to "look" a certain way. You should get a motorcycle to ride it.
@hiddenmortimer5189
@hiddenmortimer5189 Жыл бұрын
Pretty lame to virtue signal about something so simple as motorcycle riding. People ride for all kinds of reason. Besides, half the fun of motorcycle riding is the looks. Unless you ride a POS that looks like it’s put together with duck tape, then you shouldn’t be talking.
@virusdumb
@virusdumb Жыл бұрын
I think you should instead get a sidecar
@jasperdomacena6491
@jasperdomacena6491 Жыл бұрын
well... a newer Vespa is sort of a good choice CVT, EFI would go as high as 300cc's personally would choose the 300cc Vespa just because it can easily keep up with traffic and the torque! the older Vespa with a 2 stroke engine is not so great (for a not mechanically inclined person) -Italian Electricals will mess with you from time to time -Seasonal Carburetor Tuning -Breaker Point Gap will have to be checked from time to time -it's a 2 stroke engine so the spark plug will require frequent cleaning, you would have to prevent high speed engine braking (if you're running pre-mixed fuel) -Fuel Economy is also bad.. 4-5L/100km plus 2 stroke oil
@johnpublic168
@johnpublic168 11 ай бұрын
Great look into history of Vespa. Loved it.
@stargazer162
@stargazer162 Жыл бұрын
I always found it interesting how the Vespa has the exact same design philosophy as the Honda Pacific Coast, it being of designing a sleek motorcycle where all the mechanical parts are hidden similarly to in a car, and it's meant to be more appealing to the masses who aren't necessarily motorcycle fans but will be sold on the practicality of it. However, where the Pacific Coast failed, the Vespa succeeded, because although the Pacific Coast is cool as hell, it is also too big, expensive and intimidating to have any kind of mainstream success, while the Vespa truly feels like a vehicle the average person would ride. Probably the only motorcycle that has managed to replicate the success of the Vespa is the Honda Super Cub. Another thing I find interesting is how other brands have struggled to make their scooters cool, something where the Vespa greatly succeeded at. Scooters are typically seen as purely utilitarian by most, some even consider them to be a bit dorky compared to a "real" motorcycle, but Vespas were something people actively desired, they wanted one just because they know they would look cool as hell while riding it, and I don't think I could say the same about any other scooter, I mean yeah they have their fans but I doubt many would buy a Kymco Agility 125 to impress girls.
@veiserexab1428
@veiserexab1428 3 ай бұрын
"We are Scooter Brothers my friend, Scooter Brothers!"
@jimprice1959
@jimprice1959 Жыл бұрын
I had a Vespa 150 back on the early 1960s. It was a great design. You could easily change the tires. It won an industrial design award.
@smitajky
@smitajky Жыл бұрын
My first motorcycle was a Vespa built under licence by Douglas. It still had the rod gear changing. The headlight was mounted on the front legshield so it wouldn't point around a corner. It had a very comfortable seat and a solid carrier and a lockable weatherproof luggage container. A single transfer port with a special crown piston. It had done a HUGE distance when I sold it. Most modern Japanese bikes needed to be rebuilt when moving only a third of the distance. It was a very special machine and I regret parting with it.
@Pneuma40
@Pneuma40 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like you had a rare and special bike.....you get to keep the memories.
@davidhunternyc1
@davidhunternyc1 Жыл бұрын
At 3:53. The "celadon" color is superlative. The best color in Vespa's history which, btw, is equally as stunning on a Porsche by Singer. Celadon has a muddy base, mixed with equal parts grey, green, and beige, and sometimes with a hint of blue. It's a complex, calming color that's impossible to pin down. Simply perfection. Btw, I hate motorcycles. Broke too many bones and have tinnitus in both ears. So someone, anyone, get in touch with me. Let me design a new kind of motorcycle with you.
@othgmark1
@othgmark1 Жыл бұрын
The motorcycle didn't make you crash you crashed the motorcycle as for hearing loss again stock exhausts do not lead to hearing loss.
@davidhunternyc1
@davidhunternyc1 Жыл бұрын
@@othgmark1 How about asking questions instead of making assumptions? My father had me riding on the gas tank of his Bultaco when I was 3, no hearing protection whatsoever. I got my first 50cc motorcycle at 4. The motorcycle didn't make me crash? Try telling that to a 5 year old who was forced to ride long distances in the desert and the mountains on a jerry-rigged parts bike. By the time I was nine, I had broken bones and was hospitalized for hearing loss.
@othgmark1
@othgmark1 Жыл бұрын
@@davidhunternyc1 sounds like your own old man was responsible. Properly put together and tuned Bultacos were among the best handling bikes of the era. I raced them for years. A poorly maintained Vespa would have had the same results except for the hearing loss. But without the muffler a Vespa is pretty loud too. I am genuinely sorry that your dad was seemingly not concerned with your health and you suffered for it. It's a shame you missed out on motorcycling because of those experiences. I have been fortunate enough to ride around the Americas and Europe including some saddle time on Vespas. Safety wise there isn't a big difference, a motorcycle is better on an open road while a Vespa is more nimble in city traffic.
@davidhunternyc1
@davidhunternyc1 Жыл бұрын
@@othgmark1 Yes, it was my father's fault. He was a douchebag. He's still clueless about safety but that doesn't matter. My opening comment is, I hate motorcycles. Whenever I hear one I automatically cringe. I do like Vespa's, however. I love the look of Janus motorcycles too but they are noisy.
@supernerd8527
@supernerd8527 Жыл бұрын
I understand that is focused on Piaggio Vespa but there is an iconic iteration of this in India. Bajaj started selling Vespas from 80s as 'Priya'(Dear) and later put out the better version called 'Chetak' that looked far better than the 1985 version of Vespa in collab with LML. The Chetak '97 was that dream 'dad's vehicle' that children enjoyed the rides on.
@ghost963cz
@ghost963cz Жыл бұрын
Every single country on earth made their own Scooters or copied Vespa, India is not special
@supernerd8527
@supernerd8527 Жыл бұрын
@@ghost963cz I was only referring to licensed Vespa not any other scooter. And India is special for me.
@vorrdegard2176
@vorrdegard2176 Жыл бұрын
There is a chetak in front of me rusting
@Snowaxe3D
@Snowaxe3D Жыл бұрын
@@ghost963cz Why so salty dude?
@stargazer162
@stargazer162 Жыл бұрын
@@ghost963cz Mine didn't, we made licensed Lambrettas instead lol
@BryanTorok
@BryanTorok Жыл бұрын
In the early 1970s, I owned two Vespas. I have no idea what the model numbers were. Both my girlfriend at the time and I took our motorcycle license test on them. Completing the low speed maneuvering course was a little tricky as the engine and transmission were on the right side so the bike was not balanced. Also, the Vespa I had was fitted with a foot operated clutch and foot rear brake. Fortunately, the examiner I had understood the problems with the Vespa and took pity on my in grading my test. They were fun, durable, and cheap.
@giordanofox
@giordanofox Жыл бұрын
the best thing ever of the vespa was that you know you'll eventually get home no matter what, just bring a couple spare parts and you will never get stuck anywhere!
@russelldawkins9094
@russelldawkins9094 Жыл бұрын
My understanding was that the Vespa was born out of Piaggio looking for something to do with the large number of nose gears it still had on hand after WWII. They were used as front suspension for the Vespa. No?
@lint2023
@lint2023 Жыл бұрын
I've always wanted one. And it would fit right in my stable since I have two MotoGuzzi's. !
@AngelSapundzhiev
@AngelSapundzhiev Жыл бұрын
I own a Vespa PX150, Aprilia Mana 850 and now looking for a Moto Guzzi (V85TT or V7 Stornello) to complete my Piaggio collection. Love Piaggio and true Italian motorcycles!🇮🇹🛵💨
@mikesbarn1858
@mikesbarn1858 11 ай бұрын
There’s something about the comfort of sitting fully upright with arms lower that really appeals to people.
@AkashYadavOriginal
@AkashYadavOriginal Жыл бұрын
My Dad used to ride Vespa, we shared so many sweet memories on thay scooter. Personally though I hate driving scooters, I don't trust their tiny wheels and their easy to lock breaks. My dad now rides with me sitting behind my bike and hates it.
@milankanazir5852
@milankanazir5852 Жыл бұрын
have LML T5 150 '90. first owner, ride everyday, but it's no only in family, also have GS550E '79. and R1150R 2006 but start with MZ TS 150 '77. form my dad 39 years ago
@Pneuma40
@Pneuma40 Жыл бұрын
I think that Vespa and VW bug is a good comparison. There were many fans of both and for the same reasons. Both air cooled simple but innovative drive train with aerodynamic (voluptuous) bodies. Both intended to be inexpensive transportation. Wildly popular leading to a well stocked restoration fan base more than half a century later. Small incremental changes to the same basic design over decades.....I love them both.
@carltreurnich8482
@carltreurnich8482 Жыл бұрын
My uncle was a sponsored top rider in South African super bike racing and i remember him telling me back in the day that that the 250 cc did 180 kph,and he wasn't joking
@KeepItSimpleSailor
@KeepItSimpleSailor Жыл бұрын
In Saigon there are kazillions of scooters - and the Vespa is very highly prized amongst them.
@cristheojon4884
@cristheojon4884 Жыл бұрын
And because of the vespa, scooters are the most commonly used motorcycle in most parts of Asia especially here in Southeast Asia. Unlike how America sees scooters, almost like an afterthought, scooters here are given the same respect as any other motorcycle, and yes we do consider scooters as motorcycle I know many wouldn't agree. Scooters are used in short rides, long rides, daily drivers, for businesses, for leisure, etc.
@makarambles
@makarambles Жыл бұрын
What a great video to show up on my recommended when I'll be a Vespa owner officially in 48 hours!
@bartmotorcycle
@bartmotorcycle Жыл бұрын
Congrats!
@sus8e462
@sus8e462 Жыл бұрын
Last year I decided to replace my Sym Mio 50cc scooter (very cute/Vespa inspired) with something faster, and found not just a Vespa, but the Vespa 946. I fell in love. If you're going to get a scooter, get a Vespa (but Korean models are great for budget). If you're going to get a Vespa, get the 946! A local dealer had a low mile 2013 (first year for the model) and I've tripled the miles on it. Absolutely love it!! (Though skip '18-22 featured designers--distract from the beauty of the body shape). Though this year for a little more comfort on hilly freeways (hard to avoid in my area), I added a new Piaggio BV400 after months of reviewing motorcycle options for 300-600cc range.... And really I love both!
@OldSkoolBiker62
@OldSkoolBiker62 Жыл бұрын
The title of your video made me laugh, I have loved big motorbikes for aslong as I can remember, whereas my dad who in the 60's and early 70's worked as a fitter at the BSA factory in Birmingham UK.. even though he worked on BSA Goldstars amongst other models he himself hated motorcycles, but he loved scooters and actually owned a Vespa. So you see now why I found the title of your video amusing. The only thing of my dad's Vespa left is the Vespa badge itself, which he had removed to have re-chromed which he had done but then ended up having a accident on the scooter and the Vespa badge was never refitted and the scooter ended up rusting away in our back garden, and as a young boy of about 6 years old I remember sitting on this rusty old Vespa and pretending to ride. And I grew up loving motorcycles but hating scooters.. but I will never let go of the shiny new looking vespa badge that i found wrapped up in tissue paper after he passed away.
@pietervanbreda4360
@pietervanbreda4360 Жыл бұрын
Very nice content, and well presented
@RicardoHerrera-wn4gd
@RicardoHerrera-wn4gd 4 ай бұрын
Had a Yamaha xt 250 and triumph speed master, but best adventure in my life was on scooters all over Sought east asia. Came home and bought a Vespa
@PM-dz9fe
@PM-dz9fe Жыл бұрын
Bart, are you familiar with the Lambretta scooter? It may be an interesting topic for a video. I owned one in the late 1960s bought from a man who owned it in Italy where he was stationed with the military for a while. I think he had it flown back to the USA. It was a 150 cc model and was quite good.
@samuelquevedo3639
@samuelquevedo3639 Жыл бұрын
Great video, very informative and well presented. One comment tho, in Latin America there are many countries whose main mode of transport IS traditional, tubular frame, large-radius two wheeled motorcycles. Cheers.
@seeingeyegod
@seeingeyegod Жыл бұрын
Another well done video. I never actually realized quite how long ago the first Vespa came out. Also somehow didn't realize they were built by Piaggio despite me knowing of that company for their aerospace side.
@ngauruhoezodiac3143
@ngauruhoezodiac3143 Жыл бұрын
I recall that the first Vespa engine was originally an auxiliary power unit for Piaggio bombers.
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