Baseball in World War II

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@BaseballsNotDead
@BaseballsNotDead Ай бұрын
Corrections/Omissions... I completely missed Wally Judnich and his 5.3 WAR on the 1942 St. Louis Browns who went in the military in 1943. Don't know how I missed him because he was on my spreadsheet where I catalogued every MLB player. Valid criticism that I didn't cover the Negro Leagues or mention the All-American Girls Professional Baseball League. Especially with the title "Baseball in World War II." I nearly included a few stories, but it really didn't fall into the scope of what I was talking about (specifically Major League Baseball and it's affiliates) and is a topic I'm not nearly as well versed on so I didn't feel I'd do it justice. Lots of comments about me saying "Washington Nationals" and not "Washington Senators." That is not a correction because they were officially the Washington Nationals from 1905-1956, but they were commonly referred to as the Senators. It's a bit like X versus Twitter where a lot of people still say Twitter even though the name is officially X now. Shirley Povich even referred to them as the Senators in a direct quote I used and I even said Senators once in the video that wasn't a direct quote. Basically either Nationals or Senators are fine to use. Pronunciation goofs - I usually try really really hard to get these right, but some things just trip me up sometimes. Al Brazle is pronounce "Brazz-il" and I did say it right the first time in the video, but the second time I used his name I said "Bray-zil." I also struggled a bit with Kwajalein as it was just one of those words I just couldn't get out right with my accent (think German trying to say squirrel). I think I got close, but even right now I don't know if I said it right or not.
@paulframe85
@paulframe85 Ай бұрын
Thanks for the clarifications! It's another magnum opus
@JackieDaytona1776
@JackieDaytona1776 Ай бұрын
I'm 18 seconds in and paused to read this and I'm pumped to watch it! I also learned something as I'd have bet money it was officially Senators! And not covering the Negro Leagues is valid criticism I suppose, but this isn't the MLB Network! You're a content creator putting in hours and hours of work for the love of baseball and to entertain. I appreciate your work and maybe one day in the future you can make a part two that gives the Negro Leagues and Women's League the time they deserve. Until then, thank you and keep it up!
@smoceany9478
@smoceany9478 Ай бұрын
rectangular prisms on google earth, i see you
@BaseballsNotDead
@BaseballsNotDead Ай бұрын
I literally forced myself to learn Google Earth just for this video. Had never worked with it before.
@Trivve
@Trivve Ай бұрын
The influence of Jon bois continues to grow
@fries5849
@fries5849 Ай бұрын
@@BaseballsNotDeadIm just starting to think that google earth animation is the best way to do sports documentary’s
@ethanniedorowski116
@ethanniedorowski116 Ай бұрын
​@Trivve legend an he wouldn't have it any other way.. his work is for the people just ask us
@ken_U_seet
@ken_U_seet 25 күн бұрын
Been seen
@theEWDSDS
@theEWDSDS Ай бұрын
Now we need a video on baseball in the Civil War
@nickhueper2906
@nickhueper2906 Ай бұрын
It could be a KZbin short haha
@MrAweeze
@MrAweeze Ай бұрын
Ww1 first
@dancolonna6590
@dancolonna6590 Ай бұрын
Ken burns baseball series spends a decent amount of time on both the civil war and WW1
@tweezerjam
@tweezerjam Ай бұрын
@@dancolonna6590too bad his documentary isn’t free on yt. Lame- that kind of precious material that should be available for all. It touches on so many aspects of our life that you’re bound to learn something.
@CoachJohnMcGuirk
@CoachJohnMcGuirk Ай бұрын
Why does baseball get all the best videos? I don't even like baseball but their video essays are like 10x better than all the dorks sitting in a computer chair yelling strait into the camera about basketball trade rumors.
@Cocaine4209
@Cocaine4209 Ай бұрын
Yeah basketball fans love their daily MJ vs LeBron debates, not sure how they don't find it getting old after all this time
@joshuawoods4039
@joshuawoods4039 Ай бұрын
since the sport is so storied it happens to coincide with a lot of world history. NHL started in 1917, NFL started in 1920, NBA started in 1949, but then you look at the MLB. It started in 1876, making it the oldest by 41 years. so by the time these sports were finally well known, baseball had already been America’s game.
@afuzzycreature8387
@afuzzycreature8387 Ай бұрын
@@joshuawoods4039 a lot of america grew up around baseball in the way that basketball and football didn't (we'll ignore hockey as its mostly a canadian phenomenon in the zeitgeist despite it being my preferred sport). Reality is football didn't hit high level mainstream until the 1960s though there's a lot you can say about it. Reality is baseball players were household names whereas nobody knew football players in the same way.
@rdrisms
@rdrisms Ай бұрын
baseball has a lot of history and a lot of statistics (even before the rise of sabermetrics, box scores kept track of all the major counting stats)
@michaelcornwall
@michaelcornwall Ай бұрын
Baseball has always attracted the best nerds and dorks, like I'm huge in football KZbinrs, but the baseball guys are more like idk the guy obsessed with stats, and stuff and just so thorough.
@Kawhilight
@Kawhilight Ай бұрын
YES!!! Thank you for dropping this. I’ve looked into it so much and there isn’t a single video (at least I’ve found) that goes in depth in this short era of baseball history
@BaseballsNotDead
@BaseballsNotDead Ай бұрын
Every baseball documentary about the 40s does the same thing. Covers 1941 in detail with the 3 big storylines (DiMaggio hit steak, Williams hitting .400, Brooklyn's Dem Bums), mentions Pearl Harbor and some big players leaving for the military (DiMaggio, Greenberg, Feller, Williams), mentions Pete Grey, maybe mentions Gedeon and O'Neill, then cuts straight to 1946 as if the league didn't exist and turns the focus to Jackie Robinson. This was by far my most difficult video to make not only because how expansive of a topic it is, but just how little information is out there. There's also VERY little video footage of 1942-1945 major leagues, minor leagues, and military teams playing baseball. I forced myself to learn Google Earth just to be able to put something on screen.
@Masterman274
@Masterman274 Ай бұрын
@@BaseballsNotDead Thanks so much for making it, have never heard of so many of the storylines and it was fascinating to watch
@sporer_
@sporer_ Ай бұрын
@@BaseballsNotDeadyou did an amazinggggg job
@abrandenburg10
@abrandenburg10 Ай бұрын
That ending monologue was the best piece in the history of this channel. Nowadays half the country refuses to even associate with the other half and is more content in their hatred. It shouldn’t take a war to make everything that simple
@jman2050
@jman2050 Ай бұрын
A one-armed man hitting .218 in the Majors is absolutely wild.
@charliesinferno
@charliesinferno Ай бұрын
Just more and more proof that baseball has some of the most dedicated sports fans ever. The amount of research this required must've been mind nunbing, and this video on top of that is definitely the best in show for the information it's presenting. Amazing video as always.
@BaseballsNotDead
@BaseballsNotDead Ай бұрын
Appreciate it!
@jeffphillips1832
@jeffphillips1832 Ай бұрын
This is a top quality documentary, not another KZbin video. Excellent work bravo!
@BaseballsNotDead
@BaseballsNotDead Ай бұрын
Thanks!
@wafersmash338
@wafersmash338 Ай бұрын
As a massive baseball fan and veteran, I was moved by this video in a powerful way. I've been watching your stuff for a while and this was one of, if not the best, Baseball YT video I've seen. Thank you for making it.
@jackk5024
@jackk5024 Ай бұрын
I would like to say, despite the general underperformance of this video, I'm really really glad that it did get made. These kinds of deep dives into unique circumstances in sports history are always fascinating, and this is no exception. Thank you for putting in the effort required to make it.
@Rutherford12
@Rutherford12 Ай бұрын
Here's a fun fact, after the 1941 season the St. Louis Browns had proposed a relocation to Los Angeles for the 1942 season. The voted needed a majority approval by the 8 American League owners. Expected to pass, the vote was scheduled for December 8, 1941. After the events of the previous day, with aircrafts and aircraft supplies needed for the new war effort, the vote was rejected 8-0 with the thought that air travel was more necessary for the war than to fly teams to Los Angeles.
@theaminusteam
@theaminusteam Ай бұрын
Hy thank you rutherford
@ethanniedorowski116
@ethanniedorowski116 Ай бұрын
Maybe then they would have kept a 2 handed lineup
@WMusick
@WMusick Ай бұрын
1960 Ballot Measure in Portland, OR to build the Delta Dome at our Delta Park if passed. In 1959, Green Bay Packers who sucked at the time, said if measure passed, they'd move to Portland. Measure narrowly defeated, and Green Bay, WI got all those championships.
@sporer_
@sporer_ Ай бұрын
Watched this in parts and finished it today. Just gotta say again how brilliant it was and how much I learned even as a huge baseball nerd myself
@achillesheelys5139
@achillesheelys5139 Ай бұрын
Hey BND, a while back I got into historical OOTP sims because of your livestreams. It was honestly surreal to see one of my franchises goats, Warren Spahn, talk about his time with the engineers trying to keep the bridge from being destroyed. And in such high quality too. Very sobering to see the human side of the war like that. Thank you for all your hard work into making this video
@EWNOREVERSE
@EWNOREVERSE Ай бұрын
Excellent documentary, this video should do well.
@BaseballsNotDead
@BaseballsNotDead Ай бұрын
Thanks. Primus sucks.
@bobbest8627
@bobbest8627 Ай бұрын
Thanks! Clearly not an amateur production the main streams and networks should pick this up. Should be the first thing Every player watches at the start of spring training right after acknowledging Curt flood. Keep up the good work, sir.
@michaelcornwall
@michaelcornwall Ай бұрын
Hank Greenberg what a beast! You brought back fond memories of reading the books from the school library about baseball, instead of paying attention in junior high lol
@mrmikejsteele
@mrmikejsteele Ай бұрын
This is an incredible piece-informative, interesting, and even moving at the end when you extend the scope a bit. I knew only the most superficial details about this era before, and as you say, the stories here could more than fill a ten-hour documentary, but you balanced everything beautifully here. Thank you for your work to compile, organize, and synthesize this for us to watch.
@davidleatherberry4122
@davidleatherberry4122 Ай бұрын
Another banger my guy, these long form documentaries are AWESOME. Appreciate it.
@paulframe85
@paulframe85 Ай бұрын
These last two videos have given myself, a baseball neophyte living in the UK who started following the Mariners in 2020, a fantastic overview of the last 85 years in MLB history. I truly appreciate the time, effort and craft that has gone into producing these wonderful documentaries. Thank you Baseball's Not Dead for the countless hours of education and entertainment.
@TNN402
@TNN402 Ай бұрын
Absolute banger of a documentary, really can see all the effort and detail put into this video. Don't think I've ever not liked any of your videos but this one was particularly insanely well done.
@jimc.goodfellas
@jimc.goodfellas Ай бұрын
Awesome stuff my friend...this subject has always interested me. My grandfather met Ted Williams on an airbase in Korea and it was one of the highlights of his life
@naciremasti
@naciremasti Ай бұрын
I sure hope you've gotta long form documentary on the Negro Leagues in the works. You and the Baseball Professor should collaborate on it together.
@Kyguy922
@Kyguy922 Ай бұрын
This should be in Cooperstown!
@Quinndica
@Quinndica Ай бұрын
I hope you’re blessed with more time to make videos. You do such a good job. Baseball fans and KZbin as a whole would benefit greatly for more content from you.
@mirrlamp
@mirrlamp Ай бұрын
What a wonderful documentary. I knew certain players had been in the war but never heard their testimonies so felt a great deal of emotion hearing their first hand accounts. God bless everyone who fought for our freedom and sincere thanks for making such a high quality film on a subject many will not know about.
@keatonabrams9237
@keatonabrams9237 26 күн бұрын
Gotta say, just started watching you today and I know NOTHING about baseball. Come from a baseball family but was never interested in it myself. Your videos are just the right mix of engaging and informative that I actually feel like I’m picking up on stuff. Thanks!
@ethanniedorowski116
@ethanniedorowski116 Ай бұрын
Baseball fan this is truly something I look forward to watching 5 times then all your best again at least once... Man you make me love baseball again an I'm a soxs fan redsoxs it's not black bad right now but still rough times
@n.stamm_
@n.stamm_ 7 күн бұрын
Historian here... That was very well done! Always interesting to look at lesser known aspects of a major historical event such as WW2, that most often gets told through the sheer scale of war and violence. To put a spotlight on the relation between sports and societ and the impact of sports *on* society, at a time when that particular society was tested to its limits, is a pretty good piece of historical story telling!
@TrentonLandmark
@TrentonLandmark Ай бұрын
One of the best sports videos I’ve ever watched. Excellent work!
@AndrewJW
@AndrewJW Ай бұрын
This video was amazing. Literally had me choked up at least a half dozen times. America used to be a real country.
@JSR_
@JSR_ Ай бұрын
EXCELLENT video man! I hope this blows up, I love how in depth you cover this. I've never really seen this covered. From a Dodger fan, GL to your Mets, may the best team win :D
@BaseballsNotDead
@BaseballsNotDead Ай бұрын
Ew no... I'm not a Mets fan.
@IglasiaswitaI
@IglasiaswitaI Ай бұрын
I love these long format videos
@ofersagi5653
@ofersagi5653 Ай бұрын
Man if this is even half as good as your doc about unions I'm gonna watch this ten times!!!
@BaseballsNotDead
@BaseballsNotDead Ай бұрын
Sorry but it's only 46% as good.
@Xenon1825
@Xenon1825 Ай бұрын
​@@BaseballsNotDeadThat's still 4.6 watches of this doc so should still be good for ad rev
@FrekyD
@FrekyD Ай бұрын
Fantastic vid as always, Baseballs not dead's quality is so consistently great!
@thecaveman3503
@thecaveman3503 Ай бұрын
Buddy disappears for 5 months, and then drops a whole ass documentary. Let's go!
@conedx
@conedx Ай бұрын
holy crap a 90(ish) minute video about two of my favorite things ever! world war 2 and pre-LA dodgers baseball!
@kingchuckfinley
@kingchuckfinley Ай бұрын
Love that the journalists criticized players for not joining the war voluntarily, while they sat there writing that not voluntarily joining the war.
@kurumauzamaki2731
@kurumauzamaki2731 Ай бұрын
“No future in electric lighted play” I know it’s not the same now as then but still find it funny
@JacksInTheAir
@JacksInTheAir Ай бұрын
Great Video - didn’t plan on watching the whole thing but here I am
@zbou23
@zbou23 20 күн бұрын
Hey man, been subbed since you were under 1k subs and its been very cool to see your stuff become more comprehensive, ambitious, and polished. Keep it up bud, couldn't be better!
@kandikidzora
@kandikidzora Ай бұрын
This is so well done! I always wished Ken Burns’s Baseball went more in-depth with this topic. Thank you so much for this!
@koreanBaseballNerd
@koreanBaseballNerd Ай бұрын
Jesus, what an absolute gem of a video.
@jacobhamel3013
@jacobhamel3013 Ай бұрын
Great video, I was hoping you’d make another one. The thought and time you put into it really shows. I appreciate your content.
@blondeucus8121
@blondeucus8121 Ай бұрын
tremendous videos dude wishing you the best amazing quality
@blondeucus8121
@blondeucus8121 Ай бұрын
also glad u cited some mark felton stuff he's amazing
@zqrahll
@zqrahll Ай бұрын
This is an amazing video, major kudos to all the work that must have gone into it.
@thatpitcherguy
@thatpitcherguy 21 күн бұрын
Fantastic job, I appreciate all the hard work you put into this video. Keep up the good work!
@1rwjwith
@1rwjwith Ай бұрын
A great tribute to all these men.
@JackCallSports
@JackCallSports Ай бұрын
As a baseball nerd thank you so much for making this
@toadeightyfive
@toadeightyfive Ай бұрын
Was a little disappointed you didn't really touch on WWII's impact on the Negro Leagues. There are a couple stories there that could've been fun to fix in, like Leon Day winning the 1945 "G.I. World Series" with an integrated team, Jackie Robinson's wrongful court-martial at Fort Hood, or Satchel Paige trying to organize a strike at the 1944 east-west all star game. Though I suppose the video's already over an hour long long and super comprehensive enough as it is, lol. Really fantastic work.
@BaseballsNotDead
@BaseballsNotDead Ай бұрын
I almost included Leon Day, but you have to make choices on what to include in a video like this. I'm not only not very well researched on the Negro Leagues during this time so it would've bloated the project pretty heavily with scope creep so decided to keep the video to Major League Baseball and its affiliates. Totally get any disagreement on that and it's good criticism.
@toadeightyfive
@toadeightyfive Ай бұрын
@@BaseballsNotDead oh yeah, 100% understandable. cuts are inevitably gonna have to come from somewhere in order to keep a project like this manageable.
@riven756
@riven756 Ай бұрын
not sure if this was intentional, but regardless the repeat of the 2nd strain of colonel bogey at 38:22 coming in right as you talk about how stan musial was dominating the league is such a fun moment! great video as always
@DrAnarchy69
@DrAnarchy69 Ай бұрын
As a historian, I commend you for all your quality research. Tip of the (baseball) cap to you!
@Abraham-yl2qs
@Abraham-yl2qs Ай бұрын
Very interesting and well put together vid. Definitely learned something today
@ThomasBaxter
@ThomasBaxter Ай бұрын
Thoughtful and well researched. At 90m I can only guess at the effort that went into this, and bravo. Well done. I only _vaguely_ heard my brain play "I Dreamed I Saw Joe Hill Last Night" during the film stock.
@edgardrobleto
@edgardrobleto 17 күн бұрын
Great video. Thanks for the interesting information about this period in MLB.
@davidcollison8973
@davidcollison8973 Ай бұрын
This is wonderful! I hope the HOF has a copy of this film
@ghost64626
@ghost64626 Ай бұрын
Man, this was a beautiful video. Thank you
@tweezerjam
@tweezerjam Ай бұрын
You’re a great narrator. 👍🏼 I feel like I’m watching the sandlot or the Christmas movie.
@jessiebullock
@jessiebullock 27 күн бұрын
Great work. Thank you for making this.
@shhhvcnear
@shhhvcnear Ай бұрын
Man, I want to watch this but I dont have 1.5 hours xD Saved to watch later and thank you for putting in the effort for these videos my man
@JanksBaseball2428
@JanksBaseball2428 Ай бұрын
I was getting worried bc u hadn't posted in a while. Happy to see ur back. (Side note u should make some more shorter content.. I'd love to watch ur vids more often)
@gialaureano246
@gialaureano246 Ай бұрын
NEW BASEBALLS NOT DEAD UPLOAD LETS GOOOO
@mtoy42twin
@mtoy42twin Ай бұрын
Great video as always, and I'm assuming you're a Mets fan considering the Mets hat on your logo? Good luck in the series, a subway series would be really fun to watch.
@sleestack13
@sleestack13 Ай бұрын
Brilliant video. Thank you SO much.
@brettanderson9633
@brettanderson9633 Ай бұрын
I don't know why that video had me choked up, but thank you!
@zackhackattack
@zackhackattack Ай бұрын
Wonderful video! One caveat is that you can’t say this is the history of baseball in WWII without mentioning the Negro Leagues. Many Negro League players fought and died during WWII. The war had a tremendous impact on the societal view of black Americans which later contributed to the integration of baseball in the later 1940’s. Even Jackie Robinson was drafted and then served during WWII, and I’m disappointed that such a rich history didn’t even get a mention. As said by MLB themselves, “Negro League is Major League”. An absolutely beautifully researched video and regardless, I truly enjoyed it!
@alexabruzzi8267
@alexabruzzi8267 Ай бұрын
Common Baseball's Not Dead banger
@midwestproblem3162
@midwestproblem3162 Ай бұрын
This is an excellent video. I was always curious about this
@ba780YT
@ba780YT Ай бұрын
This is an incredible video.
@Speedster___
@Speedster___ Ай бұрын
Should license this to MLBN
@timsweeney6209
@timsweeney6209 Ай бұрын
So freakin' good as always
@adamgullion7341
@adamgullion7341 Ай бұрын
This is an excellent and amazing video
@sporer_
@sporer_ Ай бұрын
Super niche reference but when I heard the jazzy music at 51:38, I was like “it’s bilbo”
@UnfairEnforcer
@UnfairEnforcer Ай бұрын
He has returned!
@Explosivo57
@Explosivo57 Ай бұрын
We're eating good today, boys. Great video!
@Brett-m1m
@Brett-m1m Ай бұрын
Incredible video thank you for teaching me about some history :)
@RealBlueony
@RealBlueony Ай бұрын
Minor correction on the Browns, they did lose at least one player to the war effort prior to 1945, and it was arguably their best player-in 1942 Wally Judnich put up over 5 WAR with an OPS+ above 150, and then missed the next 3 years in WW2. Regardless, still an excellent video, and we should not and cannot forget all that the soldiers of WW2, and even civillians, had to sacrifice.
@BaseballsNotDead
@BaseballsNotDead Ай бұрын
Doh. How did I miss that? I even had him on my spreadsheet...
@RealBlueony
@RealBlueony Ай бұрын
@@BaseballsNotDead lol it happens. Still a great video
@BaseballsNotDead
@BaseballsNotDead Ай бұрын
Really annoying that I did that because I even had him highlighted on my spreadsheet which means "put him on the WAR going to War chart." i.postimg.cc/C5mV4V2L/Judnich.png
@michaelward9880
@michaelward9880 29 күн бұрын
Very good video! Thank you.
@doormat2539
@doormat2539 Ай бұрын
Another movie theater level production thank you baseballs not dead
@Haha_You_Fool
@Haha_You_Fool Ай бұрын
Amazing doc!
@BaseballsNotDead
@BaseballsNotDead Ай бұрын
Thank you!
@Iridescence93
@Iridescence93 Ай бұрын
very interesting and well done look at a neglected period in baseball history
@emmanuelcoronado5796
@emmanuelcoronado5796 8 күн бұрын
this is amazing, thank you
@kingchuckfinley
@kingchuckfinley Ай бұрын
This is amazing.
@benjaminbrown1620
@benjaminbrown1620 Ай бұрын
BND you are my favorite documentarian.
@ARMTOAST
@ARMTOAST Ай бұрын
can you see why bobbybroccoli uses blender instead of google maps now? 😅 amazing vid as always. some of your best scriptwriting on display here imo
@Smarod
@Smarod Ай бұрын
Hell yeah another documentary on a topic i wouldnt reserxh on my own but its incredibly interesting nonetheless
@chrisrice7844
@chrisrice7844 Ай бұрын
Nice documentary.
@stuffbenlikes
@stuffbenlikes Ай бұрын
Great stuff, thank you!
@tgorefan
@tgorefan 14 күн бұрын
2 hour 1800s baseball documentary when
@TJY-mb5hk
@TJY-mb5hk Ай бұрын
Awesome video
@pathutchison7688
@pathutchison7688 Ай бұрын
I would argue that war time is when baseball matters most. That it’s absolutely essential. A lot of good reasons were put forward in this vid, and they are all true. But keeping baseball going would, quite simply, give Americans a sense of normalcy, and make the population feel like Victory over the Axis was not only possible, but inevitable. It kept anxiety down among the masses.
@TheLencho
@TheLencho Ай бұрын
as a current active duty service member and huge baseball fan , this is a great video and really gives some insight to how things were back then , great work 👌
@NickC1966
@NickC1966 Ай бұрын
Loved the video. Wonder if you left Billy Hoy’s nickname off by mistake.
@shado87j82
@shado87j82 Ай бұрын
Ironic he uploads this right after we cover this section of sports history in class. Im down to review 🙂
@KevinKaiChan
@KevinKaiChan Ай бұрын
Interesting fact: Japanese star pitcher Eiji Sawamura, who played the visiting American all-star team of 1934 and struck out Babe Ruth and other MLB power hitters, was drafted into the Imperial Japanese Army during WW2. He was killed in the Philippines when the transport ship he was on was torpedoed and sunk by American submarine. The present day NPB Sawamura Award (equivalent to MLB’s Cy Young Award) is named in his honor.
@TheBadBaseballFan
@TheBadBaseballFan Ай бұрын
Today is my anniversary, but it appears I now have more important things to do!
@crowtservo
@crowtservo Ай бұрын
My grandfather said the only baseball game he ever went to where the players weren’t his kids or grandkids was in Hawaii during WW2.
@Lgz009
@Lgz009 Ай бұрын
I literally yelled lfg when i saw this came out
@dariomancari4012
@dariomancari4012 Ай бұрын
1:15:03 was not expecting a Walter White reference in this video with a Werner Heisenberg shoutout. I had to do a triple take on that one
@fourkneeyay
@fourkneeyay Ай бұрын
32:00 Not me hearing the opening to an "Everything Wrong With..." video 😉
@BaseballsNotDead
@BaseballsNotDead Ай бұрын
It's almost the same... but they have 8 booms. I only had 7.
@BaseballsNotDead
@BaseballsNotDead Ай бұрын
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