Prime HLP Single Stack - 3 Years Later

I thought this was going to be a quick video. Boy was I wrong 😑
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[@GlucksGym]

Finally! Someone who uses something before they review it.

[@QuickQuips]

I mean you do use your stuff too.

[@EricB03]

I use stuff before I review it for sure

[@fwiffo42]

😂

[@BasementBrandon]

What fun is that though? It's much better to review something without using it so you can just say it's great and get those stacks of affiliate cash. Bonus points if you don't even own it.

[@EricB03]

@@BasementBrandon 😂

[@AgentOfLogos]

I've had mine for a while now and I have to say I am completely disappointed in it. It's bulky, the adjustable part is clunky. When I got it, it was delivered and it was already damaged. I wanted it replaced and the company was not very helpful. I feel the pulley is also NOT very smooth compared to other pulley machines out there. Overall, I would not buy again

[@BrandonSchwartz1]

Their wheel design for replacing plastic guides for the plates just is not smooth for whatever reason. Tried one of these at another guy’s house and it was night and day compared to a bolt fitness pulldown which was buttery smooth.

[@AgentOfLogos]

@@BrandonSchwartz1 the sad thing is I was going to buy the bolt fitness one at the time but ended up going with this because I wanted quality (or perceived quality). Would have saved a ton of money too... If I had to go back, I'd probably get one of the new rep fitness functional trainers

[@BasementBrandon]

Sorry to hear that, I the only issue I had with mine was one of the plastic spacers between plates came broken but they got one out to me really quick.

[@mwpig5]

I never noticed the sound but now that you pointed it out I probably will. Thanks for that.

[@hankyou85]

That’s how I feel lol

[@BasementBrandon]

Welcome 🤗

[@datglasstho]

That's twice as much as what my entire 3"x3" 6 post rack with plate storage and high/low plate-load pulleys. Nothing could convince me that's worth the expense for a home gym.

[@BasementBrandon]

I would agree, this is way down the lists on things I'd suggest for a home gym, but I am at a point where a lot of the stuff I own is more "nice but not necessary"

[@fwiffo42]

It’s great to get an update after you’ve had the unit for so long. I’m really interested to see how the Rep Adonis compares to this. If I was to get one of these, I’d consider using the Darko Voodoo for low rows and as a leg holder rather than the Prime solutions.

[@BasementBrandon]

Yeah much more options on the market now, but just like anything we seem to buy these days, something better is always on the horizon lol.

[@TheKurtlocker]

@@BasementBrandonthe constant evolution of the equipment in this space. What I love most about the prime is the dual 1:1 & 1:2 ratios in the same piece of equipment. That’s where the price is justified. What’s your take on the stray dog ATRs? I just added a single stack to the side of my rack

[@BasementBrandon]

@@TheKurtlocker TBH i havne't looked into many of the machines from SD b/c of the price point

[@TheXILLR]

Q1:With the low row cable being a 2to1 ratio as opposed to the lat pulldown being a 1to1 ratio, do you find yourself maxing out on low rows? Q2:Can you fit 45lb plates using the bare steel pin or does the weight shield get in the way? - if not what is the max amount of weight you can fit on it? Q3:Have you tried something like the rogue solo pulley attachment and attaching it to the lat pull down cable to make it 1to1?

[@BasementBrandon]

q1: I don't think I've used the full stack but by the time I get to those movements I'm already a few movements deep and tend to be aiming for higher rep work. q2. I believe so but can test q3. I have not.

[@jackviviano7231]

@@BasementBrandon @TheXILLR The Rogue Solo won't work on the original Prime Single stack that doesnt have the side holes. But it will work on the updated one they have now. My opinion on this machine is its very hard to do everything right but i think its best for Back and Tricep work. It also is good for some Shoulder and few other things. I also have the Step up platform which I use for a few Leg exercises. I like this machine a lot.

[@ClarksvilleBarbellClub]

Small calves crew checking in, B. 6:56 Another great review!

[@BasementBrandon]

😭

[@ClarksvilleBarbellClub]

@@BasementBrandon #metoo, B. 😥

[@squealer42]

" All rubbing points are fully rubbed, ... and trust me, I'm lubed out." Oh, I trust you. Keep it up another year and you'll start going blind like the rest of us.

[@BasementBrandon]

Hasn't happened yet! 🤞

[@bro_nah___1]

I wonder how many of these units Prime has sold because of BB?

[@BasementBrandon]

People still prob on that wait list b/c they take forever lol.

[@frostyarmadillo1921]

Love this type of long term review! I’m also interested in hearing your thoughts on the Voltra I as I just picked one up.

[@BasementBrandon]

I could prob do an initial impressions so far. I haven't dove in deep to a lot of the damper stuff, the app, or attaching it to a barbell. But I really really like it. The biggest issue is due to the price point and long term feasability, I don't think I could recommend it to 99% of people.

[@oswelds]

You can probably quiet the frame down by choking it with a strap. Same way as if youd choke a cymbal. Just ask someone to squeeze the frame while you do the exercise and youll see if itll work.

[@BasementBrandon]

Step 1, need to find a friend 😅

[@rjm656]

One of the first reviews to point out anything negative with what I'd call the "commercial bougie brands." There seems to be such a huge bias towards them that anything they make must be better because it costs more. Good to see a dose of reality here.

[@BasementBrandon]

there's a lot to like still, but for the cost, lead time, made in USA, etc... there are some low hanging fruit that should be addressed.

[@dlroto]

Great video, you could add dynamat to the back in certain areas to keep the sound dampened.

[@BasementBrandon]

I wonder if that would bother me with how it looked lol

[@10626476]

Place it or acoustic tiles under your banners and flags.

[@TheXILLR]

Hey you should review the Pegasus from rep and see if it fixes the issues you had with the seat on the prime single stack. I also think you’d like the bull dog pad function of the Pegasus

[@BasementBrandon]

I just don't think i want to drop $3k on something to fix issues that aren't a huge deal for me 😅

[@TheXILLR]

@@BasementBrandon no im talking about the Pegasus seat. Not the Adonis

[@joecowan3719]

I know you love your Rogue rack. If you had both the Rogue and Rep rack today, like you did a few years ago, how much harder would it be to get rid of thr Rep knowing all the equipment they keep innovating to buid upon it, compared to Rogue who has been lacking?

[@BasementBrandon]

I'm not sure to be honest. I use my extra space in my current rack for so many other things, I don't think I'd want a cable system inside it. Especially seeing how people seem to be annoyed with the REP trolleys and cabling.

[@joecowan3719]

@@BasementBrandon Fair point about being able to do more work in the rack without the cable systems in the way. I am probably thinking even more about the constant innovation from Rep and how in a few years they will keep innovating in the home gym space and it seems like Rogue is not focused on that market as much.

[@billchurch4460]

I have a Rhino in my rack for pulldowns and other cable exercises and feel like it works quite well. I've often wondered if something like a Voltra would provide an equivalent cable exercise experience, or if maybe rigging up a couple could mimic a functional trainer, but I was shocked when I saw the price of those things. You could probably do something like HomeGymHangout with a couple of Rogue CT-1s and some storage in between by the time you paid for a couple of the Voltras. That's probably an exaggeration, but maybe not a huge exaggeration. I guess a limiting factor of the CT-1s could be the height.

[@BasementBrandon]

The issue for me with the Rogue solutions is just getting them into the basement 😅

[@billchurch4460]

@@BasementBrandon Yep, I hear ya.

[@reginaldchesterfield8110]

Man its expensive, but seems like it was really well built!

[@BasementBrandon]

Luckily Brandon from 3 years ago paid for it so it doesn't sting much anymore.

[@GoreckiFit]

Great review!! Yeah there are a few more options now compared to 3 years ago. I mainly bought for a replacement lat pulldown and to use the low row, but I paid so much for it, I’ll never sell.

[@BasementBrandon]

Apologies for leaving out the "i" in your last name

[@GoreckiFit]

@@BasementBrandon all good, it’s a hard name to say, it’s more like ger-ecki with a grrr 😆

[@jakephilips7008]

The overcomplicated bearing set up on the guide rods is on all of the older strive equipment as well and everyone I have picked up used or tried made the same noise. Not sure about the newer prime selectorized equipment as the set up with the add on weights for the stack looks different and is probably not noisy.

[@BasementBrandon]

Thanks for the feedback!

[@firstfloor5347]

for the height handle issue, i have the same issue with another machine, i used a bolt instead of a carabiner to connect a long bar to the top ring and it worked perfectly to my height, but at an expense of 2 minutes every training session i needed it

[@BasementBrandon]

Good tip!

[@JonHanner-un7ef]

Thanks for the thorough review. Waiting on the Rep Adonis. Looks like it has a dedicated low row 1:1 and probably going to save $2,000+

[@BasementBrandon]

Ah the low row is 2:1 still according to their site.

[@DanielGarcia-th5ri]

Been waiting for these vids for a while. I'm actually surprised on some of the annoyances you mentioned. I would too be annoyed with the echo from the metal shield.

[@BasementBrandon]

Just little things!

[@NoFate247]

That shipping charge hurts my feelings!

[@BasementBrandon]

😅 doesn't count if it happened more than a year ago right???

[@NoFate247]

@@BasementBrandon it's a write off

[@nkrumpos]

Great review! Been waiting on this full review since you got the thing. Any idea if they have since fixed the seat issue?

[@BasementBrandon]

They prob will say yes, my gut says no.

[@nkrumpos]

@@BasementBrandon Do they offer an upgrade those of you that did not get the 4-way holes on the post that comes standard now?

[@BasementBrandon]

@@nkrumpos I'm not sure, but even if they did I don't think it would be worth the hassle to try to dissemble the whole thing for that. 😅

[@michaelthompson1680]

I'm 5'9 so that will be a Good stretch for my lats. Nice piece

[@BasementBrandon]

Right on!

[@willbarclay3172]

The Beyond Power Voltra has a band peg attachment, do you know if it is compatible with the band peg on the Prime HLP for doing more eccentric overload? Coop from GGR used his Voltra on his Rogue Rhino, but I haven’t heard of the Voltra being used in addition to a weight stack for instances where you might want even more weight in the eccentric.

[@BasementBrandon]

I'm not sure TBH, they're pretty responsive on IG though. I only have the sliding rack mounts for them so can't really test.

[@willbarclay3172]

Thanks for the speedy reply, I’ll send them a message!

[@stevephla]

Looking forward to the REP Adonis and how it compares to this machine.

[@BasementBrandon]

Does look pretty slick!

[@Dragos8376]

Looking forward to your take on the beyond power voltras.

[@BasementBrandon]

Need to get an impressions video out for sure

[@R32R38]

Speaking of legs, I wonder how many people still use the old fashioned iron boots. You can still buy them.

[@BasementBrandon]

Or monkey feet!

[@maximumsoftness7469]

Nice video m8. Speaking of purchasing, when are you gonna do another run on the bar don't lie shirts? I'd love to buy one.

[@BasementBrandon]

I'll look into it

[@_cfl]

New subscriber, considering a home gym. Like your videos. :-) What is the bench press rig to right of the Prime HLP?

[@BasementBrandon]

It's a Sorinex Competition Bench. I have a video on it from a few weeks ago.

[@carps_gym]

Always liked this piece. It looks great on your gym and in the corner. But for me this is just too much for one piece. At one time my whole gym rack, dumbbells, bars and plates was less than this one piece.

[@BasementBrandon]

Yeah def have to pay to play!

[@dirtdog5045]

Good and honest review

[@BasementBrandon]

Thanks for taking a look!

[@ClarksvilleBarbellClub]

14:00 Tall guy problems.

[@BasementBrandon]

😅

[@nowayjosehomegym]

maybe if you use my promo code you would buy it again lol good review! I still love mine but I also use my FT for other cable work as it is smoother than the single stack. I only use it for latpulldown and low row and other options out there are taller than this one which doesnt work for my space.

[@BasementBrandon]

😅

[@benmooreman]

Wonder if you could add foam inside the posts and if that would dampen a bit.

[@BasementBrandon]

Could give it a go

[@dertrendtrader]

Uff really expensive stuff. I have the ATX Trinity Tower. Its less than half of the price of this one and can everything this one can do and even more.

[@BasementBrandon]

I think it just depends. Typically made in USA is more expensive than made in China. This has a better footprint IMO than the ATX. You also get 50lbs more on the stack. The ATX is also not available to us here yet.

[@dertrendtrader]

@@BasementBrandon Sadly it still will take time until ATX will be in the USA. Regarding the stack it’s impossible to move 135kg. I’ve tried hard (I am 110kg heavy and have been training for 20 years) but it’s way more than 99% will be able to move in their entire life. Regarding the footprint it’s only 1,76m long. Usually not a problem for basement or garage and with 2,35m high also not to high for most rooms.

[@MathiasMorch]

Is there any benefit to using these v-type roller bearings on guide rod vs. the more traditional linear ball bearing or sliding plastic bearings? Or why do you think Prime went with it?

[@BasementBrandon]

Maybe longevity? I'm not sure TBH.

[@MathiasMorch]

@@BasementBrandon Ok, thanks anyways! I don't recall having seen others use that design, so it just seems odd considering multiple people commenting on the noise.

[@rk23cw]

Where did you get the decal sticker?

[@BasementBrandon]

Ah I don't recall. I just googled custom vinyl decals

[@2080bop]

Big B, do u have a set of Hansu LB Plates u would consider selling? I started buying some before they were discontinued.

[@BasementBrandon]

I do not have any 😭

[@mediumspeedsomedrag9885]

Try the soft side of Velcro

[@BasementBrandon]

I just think with the wear and tear of putting it on/off that the adhesive will give, but may be worth a shot.

[@arturoadame5286]

I love my LP2

[@BasementBrandon]

I think if I had the space and more importantly a way to get it into the basement, I may have considered that.

[@raps7027]

I have never heard of Legend fitness before, but I took a quick look at the website and they have some nice stuff. I need a nice new dumbbell rack for my gym and they seem to have some nice ones. It seems you have to ask for a quote though as the prices are not listed on the website.

[@josephbloxham3992]

Is the stack heavy enough for lat pulldowns with reasonable strength?

[@BasementBrandon]

Yes, 350lbs stack and you can add bands or a weight pin if you need more.

[@Rocket4ce]

Those Voltras look hella tight.

[@BasementBrandon]

They're great, but my worries are price point and longevity.

[@twistedbarbell3950]

It works so well in that corner!

[@BasementBrandon]

💪

[@user-yv4kn2ws8r]

Crazy $$$%

[@BasementBrandon]

Broke and Bougie lol

[@evdb7246]

Why can't you stand up straight? Seems like you can't extend your knees fully

[@BasementBrandon]

I sit at a desk all day before coming down here to film. Takes awhile to get me going lol.

[@carps_gym]

Also. Not a fan of their green. If I was to get a piece I was going to delete the green

[@BasementBrandon]

Agreed~