Basic Go Shapes of Life and Death

Stephanie Yin 1P introduces the basic shapes of life and death.
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[@tenj00]

My right ear feels lonely.

[@RogueAizenYubel]

I thought my Bose was screwing up.lol

[@marcgandini7831]

My right ear feels lonely too :-)

[@jammydodger9288]

I was soo confused

[@glennthomas6827]

h EAR... h EAR !!

[@jsihavealotofplaylists]

music but no voice

[@loupax]

All these emergent patterns rising from such simple rules, and yet you can't really play unless you name and learn those patterns. There's probably a lesson about learning hidden there somewhere.

[@panavsingh9834]

true!

[@filiepsamyn4450]

Why was the black stone vertically of the white stone in the dead eye not removed?

[@ronbuchanan4026]

My wife and I have been changing over from Chess to Go, and she bought me a Go board for this past Christmas. It is your channel that I watch more than any other. You are a great instructor, keep up the videos!

[@tashikrtv6878]

You don't have to switch completely though.

[@adsoyad-ln7zb]

tashikrTV And he can

[@tashikrtv6878]

@@adsoyad-ln7zb wut?

[@panavsingh9834]

@@tashikrtv6878 @ad soyad means he can play both of them or one of them, it's his choice

[@kishascape]

@@tashikrtv6878yes he does. English chess is booooo. Personally I’ve switched to Xiangqi, or Chinese chess. Vastly superior, and unlike go or Shogi, no annoying anime/Netflix people who are pretending to be into it because of some TV show.

[@FISHD0G747]

I'm having a bit of trouble understanding why the square-4 (13:30) is dead. I see that if black has sente, there's no way to move without giving white the ability to take the key point of the resultant bent-3. But isn't it also true that white has no way to play that doesn't create the same ability for black? That is, white can't move inside the square without creating a bent-3 that black will then claim the key point on. What am I missing here?

[@rmath101]

Agree, I'm also confused by this.

[@prevostclement]

As a beginner, this video is priceless, thank you !

[@AnTonello_Acciaiuoli]

The best Go channel i ever seen!

[@LuisMedina-cr9db]

The hardest thing for a beginning player like me: is to thing ahead, I can not see if a group is dead or not until I play in side of it and see the result.

[@someone4673]

i'm a begginer too. i just imagine the board and play some moves on the imaginary board and the one that works i play on the real board:

[@andrespineda7620]

This is the most informative lesson I have found. Everybody else spends too much time talking about nothing and waste a lot of time. Here I learn quickly and walk away with a good set of rules that I can understand and apply in a game. Thank you very much and keep making these videos, please.

[@mgWadell]

AT 12:46 in the Square 4 - why is that already dead? Can black just avoid playing within that territory? What would happen if white plays first in a Square 4?

[@manuelmama]

gracias desde España. Tengo 10 años y me gusta aprender Go contigo. muchas gracias señorita Yin.

[@prathameshjoshi1497]

Your ability to explain things that others can understand is excellent. I am learning from you the deep concepts of Go. Thank you

[@vj7248]

I understand life and death and eyes 👁 alot better now

[@carterdahl9654]

*a lot

[@deeprollingriver5820]

I realized after watching this tutorial that I need to stick with checkers

[@panavsingh9834]

that's rude.... try to understand

[@duyphan264]

Started learning to play Go a few days ago, and your channel is the only source that I can understand the reasons behind placing (or not placing) any stones. Stephanie is just amazing in making things simple to understand!

[@DS-hz4ie]

As a beginner I have to say that this is a lot to take in and it will take me time to go see it all. But it's presented very well.

[@SighrisSargon]

Did you watch, and give yourself time to absorb, the 3 (or 4?) previous videos she made?

[@potatoeconnectionmohawk1996]

The reason i like Go so much is it seems to be the most balanced board game that represents warfare and military thinking. Risk is good but is unbalanced compared to this

[@Fynmorphover]

I don't think you need to show the symmetrical cases every time... That could shave off 5 minutes of the video easily.

[@TuringMachine001]

0:00 Intro 0:50 Definitions and why you need two eyes 3:35 Real eyes vs false eyes Basic shapes: 5:55 two-in-a-row eye (self atari, snapback) 7:50 straight three (vital point) 10:00 bent three 11:05 square four (sente, gote, more space not always better!) 14:15 pyramid 15:55 cross five / flower 17:30 bulky five / knife-handle five 18:50 rabbity six 20:48 already alive questions 21:10 bent four 22:15 straight four 22:45 rectangular six

[@cloudsRniceC0M3]

google images: basic shapes draw them on paper including vital points give them nicknames (tetris L, bunny etc) keep next to you when, playing, puzzling

[@squidy7771]

Dad: "You see, if you play that move, I can take your stones." Me: "Oh, I see!" Video: "You see, if you play that move, you're DEAD!!" Me: "Oh... ok..? Dad: "And in this shape, which is a square with a dot sticking out-" Video: "It's a KNIFE!!" Me: I... uh...

[@bastienp7334]

Be careful ! When it's in the corner, the rectangle 6 is a sente live gote die !

[@boyar1978]

is it a good idea to create the two eyes in the very beginning? I started playing today against a computer. I tend to try to start creating the two eyes in the corner and attempt to keep making the eyes outward. Usually the computer out manuevers me but i tend to get almost an entire side.

[@ShredST]

Usually you don't create two eyes in the beginning because it's important to make big moves in the beginning to establish your influence on the board.

[@kyuplayersmind]

Very Nice lesson. Thanks. One suggestion, to help you institutionalize your institute: make a pdf with your logo on it that sums up this vital lesson. I love your teachings. Tx

[@bandofdegenerates]

Outstanding channel. I've watched a couple now and I really like the no-nonsense approach. Ca't wait to play again and use some of this!

[@1MarmadukeFan]

Tile drops at 15:44 22:45 "Ractangular 6. It looks like a ractangular."

[@Samgurney88]

Thank you for your channel. I've been playing chess for a while and I've only just started learning Go. You're a good teacher - you are so clear for beginners. As beautiful as chess is, the rules of Go are much more elegant and introductory theory therefore seems much more logical, despite the fact that Go is in many respects a more sophisticated game.

[@ex0ja]

I thought I had this until she got to the knife handle 5, then I realised I'll never remember all this

[@mtaur100]

Audio is not working. I'm up to 2 minutes into the video and there is no audio after the introduction music. Ads have audio. Lesson does not. Can you fix it, please, KZbin tech folks? I know I'm missing a good lesson. Thanks.

[@hakurou4620]

Some of the shapes that are alive on the center of the board (bent four, rectangular six) only live in sente if they're in the corner, so watch out.

[@vellyxenya3970]

Why is that? I would love to learn :)

[@hakurou4620]

@@vellyxenya3970 It's a little complex to explain in a single youtube comment, but while in the center of the board they will always have enough eye space to make two real eyes, because the edge of the board count as "both" players for the purpose of capturing, its possible to get undercut and have your group killed. You can read more about them as Sensei's -> senseis.xmp.net/?RectangularSixInTheCorner

[@stopthink7202]

love these videos but as a complete beginner, I have to ask, these huge surrounded shapes that you are showing us, do they frequently occur in a game of go? The games I have played so far have never had one colour surrounding another on that kind of scale. It's an achievement to even get a double eye.

[@wenqing5917]

18:43 Stephanie said,"pokey five"

[@edwardredmond1969]

hi stephanie. what is the origin of the 19x 19 board? why not play on a 21x21 board? this would be even more difficult & a real challenge for the best of players.

[@Harrycuff91]

Love your stuff :) wanna see u play

[@288skp]

Lady is no doubt a good player but I can’t follow her explanations

[@baterickpatman]

your explanation is excellent and the pace of the video is perfect :) I'm new to Go, thank you for your help!

[@sukriyesoyer2664]

Thank you so much for this amazing channel!!!💕I tried to find some quality, helpful channels teaching the go game in english. I could only find a channel and it is yours. Also you are really good at teaching that i can undertsand even though i'm not fluent in english. So glad we have your channel!!😊

[@AT-sd4kw]

Great video and channel. At the 5 min and 37 seconds mark of the video, why is legal for white to be in the false eye? Placing a white in the false eye means white is surrounded. Thanks

[@ThotdeNomaden]

Because white suround a group. Of black stones with this move. Because these stones will be captured the white stone in the false eye will live and the move is not illegal.

[@worldisgoingcrazy851]

Great tutorial. If everybody starts playing for money the level of play will go up dramatically.

[@biranit50]

what is the role of the 9 thick points on 4, 10, 16 colums??

[@shadowwalker4633]

After hitting a deer with my car -honey is it dead or alive 😂

[@wenqing5917]

By the way,she is using Japanese rules. Chinese rules is after a round is done,you need to take away the dead stone and count the territory AND stones

[@BHSAHFAD]

ok now i am actually learning

[@Nekodnekod]

man my right ear is lonely

[@comunidadestrategojuegosde7869]

i love these videos. thanks!!

[@Viewpoint314]

Excellent teacher, thank you!

[@VulcanOnWheels]

12:46 What if black avoids placing a stone inside their own group until there's only 1 space left?

[@masonmonnie]

Then it will die because there will be a bent three and your opponent can take the vital point.

[@31088489]

so symmetry is the key here

[@vassilisbakalas3423]

excellent teaching

[@Korkusuzo123]

Great videos. Helpful, precise and clear.

[@hikgerguy1234]

At marker 4:19, I'm not understanding why playing white in the left eye is illegal, but playing it in the eye on the right is ok. Can someone explain that a bit more? Not even a week into learning Go, so this is a bit confusing right now.

[@francis3266]

Because playling in the right eye will capture some black stones, creating freedoms for white. If a move looks like suicide at first but is actually capturing enemy stones it is legal by rule.

[@raffaelesimonelli]

Even though it is not the same thing, by analogy, the eye reminds me of the infantry formation necessary to counter cavalry in the wars of the 1700s. Thank you for the lesson.😊

[@alvarocastroregueiro]

Thank you, you explain better than others because you go from basic to complex with patience and without rushing. I will watch the channel more to learn more

[@BilalAhmed-hz2tt]

Ty

[@mingweihe8100]

What if having more than 6 points inside, that would be awesome if someone can give the answer for this general pattern.

[@handlebargg]

If you have 7 or more life cells inside, doesn't matter what shape they are, they are Alive

[@hakurou4620]

@@handlebargg Butterfly seven can be made into seki, but that's the only one. ( this shape -> senseis.xmp.net/diagrams/49/8f4018a8a18487905220dad99c829ae3.png ). If black plays at 1, playing it out leads to a shape where both the inner black group and the outer white group share the same two liberties; whoever plays one of them will lose. Under japanese scoring, seki counts as points for neither player.

[@abizern665]

Clear and thorough. Thank you!

[@aaronbuchholz4184]

Very helpful video! Anyone know where I can play against people? I only have the computer on my phone to play against.

[@deeprollingriver5820]

And here we have the dog lying on the couch. You’re dead no matter which way you move.

[@randynelson5998]

You are easily the best educational resource for Go on KZbin. Thank you so much for sharing all these lessons!

[@firerocket7343]

Is it better to leave them die to waste your opponent move to capture? It also reduce the territory your opponent have right?

[@gabi111able]

I solved all the puzzles till the one at 16:03, now I'm feeling tired haha

[@vg0o]

if my friend and i have little knowledge of life&death shapes. and we can't agree on the score at the end. how can we play without agreeing upon those shapes.

[@csabakallai3830]

Love your accent in English :)

[@rwharrington87]

These videos are very helpful. Thanks!

[@miked4079]

I'm not sure if you're saying "a legal" or "illegal"

[@francocuen6617]

Much needed explanation! thanks so much!

[@Dionisios.Iliopoulos]

Another amazing lecture. Thank you

[@redstick4722]

Rabbit 6 looks more like a cute minimalist squid imo

[@30803080308030803081]

I like Stephanie. She is really pretty.

[@Sallinn1296SEXY]

Yes she is

[@AlainPoker]

great teacher. great explanation. thank you

[@yoshiwiseful]

thank you ! for making these videos

[@omepunkey]

I love these tutorials. Learning a lot. Thank you!

[@thuanjourney]

Thank you so much

[@snowwarden3711]

where do i buy those bowls and stones?

[@NOTmyProblem...]

These videos are really helpful 👍

[@otaku_central010]

Thanks for free knowledge.

[@b00i00d]

what if i have one good eye, one patched-up eye and a hook?

[@Albioneastadventurer]

She looks like the singer Jfla.

[@cardi2795]

At 18:00 why can't black play at the top right corner? Are we just looking for immediate ways to create eyes and not necessarily looking for all the possible moves?

[@hakurou4620]

Top right corner would make the eyeshape into a pyramid four, and it'd be whites move; white simply places their stone at the vital point and kills the group. Or do you mean "why cant black go through and play on the outside"? That... COULD be possible, if that move is a "forcing" move (i.e. white has to respond to it rather than kill the inner group. But, if white doesn't have to respond to that move, you're essentially giving up your entire shape there, which would most likely win white the game. 14 points for capturing your group, plus an additional 18 points of territory, so that'd be 32 points for white. You'd have to have a move that threatens white lose more than 32 points in order to play elsewhere.

[@alemurra1]

Do you take the stones from the board ? And if you take them from it , can you use that space again if it is need it ? Can someone tell me please?

[@bandofdegenerates]

I'm certainly no expert. But I don't think there's any rule against throwing stones back in. However, if the shape is what it is, I imagine it'll just be a case of history repeating itself. That said, I did notice that once the eyes are established, it's an illegal move to put your stone back in because it would be insta-dead. Which I suppose is the very purpose of eyes.

[@adamant8435]

She's so cute I'm in love😍💗

[@kevinmacaroni2524]

For me, “intersection” might be an overrated word. White?

[@dillonyoung5502]

What would you call it instead of an intersection (which is what it is)

[@Festoniaful]

Learning a lot!

[@nathanmcintosh2658]

Great content

[@artalcoolique3341]

Whys it a square? What's the point of wasting turns just to make your eyes bulkier? And I thought all you had to do was surround stones to capture them, why weren't they captured? Why did white have to play the middle to capture? Also, are eyes only a middle of the board thing? Do you need to make eyes in the corners too?

[@LeRotaku]

I am a semi-beginner but I will try to answer. The reason it's a square is because they cover the "cutting" points; she showed it in one of the earlier examples with two eyes, where if you're able to be "cut" from outside, the opponent will be able to put your "false" eye into an atari, and force you to fill it, leaving you with just one real eye. To answer your second question - it's a rule that you can capture a surrounded group with only 1 eye by placing a stone inside it. If the opponent has two real eyes, you can never fill both of them because the first one will always be a "suicidal" move. In other words, you can only play a suicidal move inside an eye if you already surrounded that group. Third question: eyes can be up against the wall as well. Same rules apply.

[@fouronetwo813]

Think of the surrounded black formation as a medieval castle and the empty interestions inside as wells. As long as the castle has access to the fresh water it can withstand the siege.

[@callimatecalligraphy8513]

Nice!

[@FancyNoises]

Okay, so I'm shit at chess... but to me, having never learned Go, it seems like 80% of the explanations are unnecessary, because they are just logical extensions of things that she already explained. Maybe this is because I have played around with Conway's Game of Life? Also, it's algorithmic stuff. I think having done some programming as a kid helps me out.

[@vg0o]

opposite to me...

[@FancyNoises]

@@vg0o maybe part of my problem is that I understand a number of concepts in chess but I hardly ever get practice at applying them, which seems to be more difficult for me by orders of magnitude, whereas these Go concepts regarding various configurations of I shapes are mostly repeated adding of the same abstractions, which programming majors in.

[@paulsobczak1484]

@@vg0o you'll get it... Just play and start to get a feeling for it!

[@Vidsquid0906]

Great video!

[@eac-ox2ly]

Wow, what a great tutorial. Loved it!

[@mythopoeic8236]

:)

[@apester2]

Wonderful!

[@masterofnone1481]

I’m in love 😍

[@ehsaniakbari6625]

Hi there. I've got confused. you taught that a square-4 is 100% dead. however, I could not follow it. Imagine black made a square-4 which is totally surrounded by white. then if white plays first inside the square, we get a bent-3 with black sente live. though you mentioned that is dead, in this case black can save it. doesn't she?

[@ncinaah]

It's dead because white would never play inside the square.

[@Jericho_Padilla]

Its black Territory if white didnt play inside the box. But its 100% dead i think because White will play 2 stones adjacent to each other then black will kill it and a last snapback to kill the group

[@vg0o]

i tried with computer. very difficult for black to be alive unless white bluntly places two diagonal stones. (i am a novice, though. and still not sure under japanese rule how the players reach agreement on deciding whose territories it belongs to)

[@bluewales73]

It took me a minute to figure it out, but if white plays there first then white can guarantee it dies. It takes several moves of back and forth and eventually devolves into either a straight 2 or a bent-3 on white's turn. I feel like she skipped part of the explanation. She showed that black can't change it into something safe, but she didn't show that white can kill it if white wants.

[@hikgerguy1234]

At marker 6:25, you lost me. You play a black stone on the left liberty, then put a white stone on the right liberty and state that now the black group is captured. I don't understand the reasoning behind that. In fact, white was already surrounding the black group prior to that move, so why wasn't black declared captured at that point? Or for that matter, when you first started, why can't we state that the black group is already captured (even though it has two liberties). Think I'm missing a key point somewhere.

[@felipeb2354]

I think I'm completely in love with you.

[@jonnjonzz7006]

I love this girl she is so gorgeous

[@callmeenzy5715]

Ayo she bad

[@_next223]

She's so gorgeous and smart. A wolf with two real eyes.

[@bharatsangam2200]

Useless .

[@isn0t42]

Omae wa mou shindeiru.

[@creeeeeeeeee4101]

NANI

[@fachriem]

thanks, you have a great mind, good explanation, nice eyes, beautiful face, including good body 😍

[@tipsy6764]

Inappropriate.