Basic Scuba Diving Set Ups

[@lbaronXL]

we are seeing more and more Din here in South Florida over yoke. It is wonderful.

[@Benman2785]

i also prefer DIN - and not only because i am German :)

[@r.jackson9962]

Never tried din I was certified on yoke and never switched

[@Tapio86]

Using DIN but bring my converter/adapter just in case when travelling abroad, making sure there would not be any connection issues (I know many tanks have DIN with a yoke insert, but just want to make sure the dive is happening).

[@georgedavidson509]

Just for reference the "DIR" setup for twins is: Right post: long hose primary reg, wing Inflator Left post: backup reg, spg, drysuit hose(if required)

[@fredericv974]

I hope more dive centres would see the versatility of DIN. Converting a tank from DIN to yokes is so much easier than the other way around. I also really love that you make noise for long hose primary donate! I hope more divers and training organizations would realise this works really well and can increase safety if standardized. However, since you mentioned DIR, I would get rid of the 90° angle. It's something extra that can break and would get in the way of donating. Even in the video, when you're demonstrating primary donate by holding your fist next to your mouth you wouldn't be grabbing the hose but that 90° bend. Also, on twins I believe it's considered best practise to have your longhose and SPG on different 1st stages so you can troubleshoot your manifold. (or when overhead, a roll off of the left post)

[@jakeman1397]

What does the term 'roll off' mean? I've seen the term several times but don't know what it means. Other than that I completely agree.

[@Yggdrasil42]

Jake Williams I think it refers to the tank valve rolling closed by friction against an overhead surface. If you’re in a very restricted environment where you’re up against the ‘ceiling’ that could happen. One of the advantages of sidemount is that the valves are protected under your armpits, but DIR doesn’t like sidemount.

[@rossmacrory2390]

Another amazing video guys 🤙🏻 awesome info !

[@hanskuijsten2380]

Diving at home: Double 7, Apeks DS4's-TX50's on a necklace, no longhose, Wing (horseshoe)/steel BP, Seaskin neoprene drysuit, Heinrichs-Weikamp Sport comp. Warm water holiday set-up: Same Apeks DS4/Tx50's, converted to single tank set-up, Xdeep single wing/aluminium BP. Bare shorty, Heinrichs-Weikamp Sport comp.

[@-bonidltwat-6331]

Hans Kuijsten what country is home?

[@-bonidltwat-6331]

Mostly because I tend to dive in warmwater and I live in Scotland I can’t really dive here because I have no drysuit and I’m not trained.

[@hanskuijsten2380]

@@-bonidltwat-6331 The Netherlands.

[@jayking1073]

@@-bonidltwat-6331 join BSAC they’ll teach you dry suit for free

[@kotro88]

Just got a new rig for travel: Aqua Lung Outlaw with inflator/octo Airsource, and ditchable weight pockets. AL Mikron primary, Suunto D5 with airpod. So I'm basically down to two hoses....braided, of course! :) I'm spoiled and only dive warm water so it works.

[@vinceperkushin3008]

Aqualung Mikron for primary, integrated second stage on the BCD inflator instead of an octo is such an awesome setup!!!

[@Vasilis_Chatzis]

Great video Could you make a video about double tank valves (H and U) and what is the balanced second stage ?

[@simplyscuba]

Don't see why not!

[@Vasilis_Chatzis]

Moreover what is the auto closure divice (ACD) in regulator and can I wash the regulator with ACD without dust cap?

[@kurtsteiner8384]

Apex tx 50. It's the only pair I have. Rn use these. I like them.

[@user-ru1yg2ig5y]

at 7:45 what you suggest is a mistake... Those octo-inflators are a bad choice in terms of safety, for many different reasons!!!

[@djole_belic]

Nice video !

[@gee4526]

Hello Mark, Shaun, Thank you for another entertaining and informative video, Keep em comming. I have an issue maybe you can advise me on. I have tried several different Octo holders, and on almost every dive I will find my safe second floating beneath me or behind me wrapped around a mermaids neck or something. Is there a keeper that will actually hold it in place? I am not a big fan of the necklace so what else is there?

[@Benman2785]

4:00 - or simply buy the Mares Octopus MV - you can use this both ways ;)

[@ianmcdean41]

suggest you go do GUE Fundamentals before advising on so called DIR setups as other have said the house routing for twins is completly wrong. You can of course do what you want but there are very good reason why we route hoses the way we do and personal preference isnt one of them (apart from the fact that we prefer to do it the way thats thought through properly)

[@kevingumfory]

Puff. Puff. Pass.

[@Teampegleg]

For travel I use the same regulator setup, as the regulator and computers go in your carry on. If I ever get a travel setup, it will be able trying to limit the weight of the backplate and wing (probably something similar to the xDeep Ghost, but using a standard harness instead of xDeep's weird harness). Since it was mentioned, for traveling divers I think yoke (A Clamp) is better. Outside of Europe yoke is the standard, and DIN isn't always available. Yes you can adapt it but for me when you attach the adapter I am always hitting my head against the first stage, unless I turn the tank around. As a DIN diver, if I know I am going to a destination where DIN is completely impossible to find (like in many places in Asia) I try to make time to switch my regs over to yoke.

[@Yggdrasil42]

Team Peg Leg On the other hand I’ve been diving in four different dive centers in Thailand and Indonesia recently and all of them had DIN with removable inserts. I was perfectly able to use my own DIN set. So I think the convertible valves are becoming common (thankfully).

[@charliehaslam4967]

Is it just me who's instructor trained them with only primary reg on the right as well as drysuit hose and BCD hose Octo and SPG on left. Personly I think it's better because it's easy to donate the Octo with out as s bend in it

[@djole_belic]

LoL from Serbia !

[@harrisonmundschutz2654]

Is that regulator oriented differently than what I’m used to or are the second stages on the wrong side?

[@c.patricksadowski9959]

Can you do a video about the Hydros Pro w/Air 2 and the need (or not) for an Octo with this setup? I’ve seen nothing on this BCD so far. Thanks

[@MrZachalewel]

I got the hydros pro, while the air 2 seems like a no brainer, really think about philosophy of use with secondaries. You're buddy is out of air, you donate your primary start breathing from the air 2 and preform a safe ascent to the surface. You'd usually hold the dump valve above your head to dump the air in the bc but it's in your mouth providing you with life. There is a dump valve on the right but your right hand should be holding onto your buddies bc. You can pull hard on the corrugated hose, one end is connected to a dump valve - problem is the other end is connected to your mouth. My unconventional advice is to have two 'primaries'. So rather than a S620 paired with a cheap R095 maybe pair it with a S560. After all you're the one breathing from the secondary.

[@corbanreinhold979]

I was taught that you grab your Octo with your pinke finger close to the mouth piece

[@Randomdude2708]

3:40 why not just attach the octopus on the other side? That avoids any « S » on the hose (if your octopus can’t be switched to be left hand, of course).

[@stevenkirkman7719]

Stefan, at last someone else who see's the advantage of having the the right hand feed octopus being on the left side so the injured diver can swim to the surface still in dircet contact wit hthe diver but swimming alongside the rescuer. This is the way the BSAC teaches the single cylinder setup.

[@RoboCNCnl]

Can you please add some more KZbin commercials in there...?

[@zimt1]

AdBlock

[@simplyscuba]

Will do! 😉

[@Tapio86]

No adds when I watched, so probably country depending :)

[@shinazu_k]

WOAH THATS A LONG VIDEO FOR SIMPLY SCUBA

[@simplyscuba]

I asked Mark to keep it short maybe just over ten minutes... he gave me half an hour! - Shaun

[@jackdiamonds8734]

5:10 #flappysnaghazard

[@simplyscuba]

YES!!!

[@DanBowkley]

This needs to be a shirt.

[@simplyscuba]

@@DanBowkley 😉

[@jakobberner1765]

Is that a SKX?

[@fentonpettigrew2928]

To a newbie what does DIR even stand for?

[@Floodbait_117]

Its standard for (its German so forgive me for spelling) Deutsche Industrie Norm. It's for mainly higher pressure but it can be used at lower pressure

[@kenhilton9689]

@@Floodbait_117 Sorry to be a pedant but DIR stands for Do It Right, a style of diving using a standardised set-up, but of course you are perfectly correct with DIN

[@Exlr8Films]

12:17 Excuse me....wtf???? 12:48 R.I.P. Primary donate...

[@zimt1]

???

[@SomaliCoastguard]

​@@zimt1 I don't know if Chrankus's objections are mine but (12:17) a 90 degree angle on the long hose adds a failure point and removes a tactile distinction between it and the short hose and (12:48) The bolt snap on the long hose should be attached with o-rings or something which can be torn away, if his first stage is clipped and the bolt snap jams then he will not be able to donate quickly if at all.

[@zimt1]

@@SomaliCoastguard agreed on the first one, it could be negligible when you take one swivel of a trusted fabricate. Some regulaters already have got a swivel on it. I store my primary reg. with a boltsnap one the right d -ring when i´m on the stage. In that case you always donate gas with the regulator wich is in use.

[@SomaliCoastguard]

@@zimt1 Donating a short, necklaced hose is in my view more than a little sub-optimal and doesn't resolve the problem that you'll be buddy breathing off it if you cant release the long hose; doable in open water, less than ideal if not impossible in confined environments.

[@zimt1]

@@SomaliCoastguard you got me wrong. The primary is clipt away whilst im on a deco stage or on a botom satge. When my buddy need air he get the stage regulator while im switching to the necklace regulator. So when he need more space to move he can get the whole stagebottle. The stage regulator is on a 1m hose, thats long enough.

[@RobGUNSHOP]

Bad advice and you’re clearly not familiar with a Hogarthian set up so don’t give advice. Environmental seals do not impact cold water rating. And you don’t know what a Venturi switch is for lol.

[@fredericv974]

Just saying advice is bad is hardly helpful.

[@RobGUNSHOP]

Smaghed Incorrect advice is given on long hose use. Inaccurate workings of a first stage.

[@hanskuijsten2380]

"Environmental Dry Sealing System Standard on most Apeks first stages is the unique Environmental Dry Sealing System. This system serves a number of purposes, including the prevention of ice build up on the main spring that can occur when diving in extremely cold water. Dry sealing the first stage also acts as a safeguard against the entry of contaminants and silt into the main spring chamber, and eliminates the need for messy silicone oil or grease filling inside your regulator. The Environmental Dry Sealing system is found on Apeks Tungsten, XTX200, XTX100, XTX50, XTX40 and XTX50/DS4 first stages." Is what Apeks themselves have to say about environmental sealing & ice....

[@mik3ydll]

it's mostly air humidity from the tank that causes freezing kzbin.info/www/bejne/sIa1nIFpmbSpgZY , hence sealing doesn't help for that.

[@GinEric84]

@@mik3ydll Humid air from the tank... Okay