Basic vs Adjustable Motorcycle Shock | What’s The Difference?

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What makes an adjustable shock absorber better than a basic rear shock on a motorbike? Here are the differences.
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@Wannabearborist 2 ай бұрын

Damn, this is gonna be a SHOCKing video 😂

@ChaosCauses 2 ай бұрын

Shockingly good comment

@Wannabearborist 2 ай бұрын

@ 😂

@alvinsandiyavoo637 2 ай бұрын

Bro, can you restore more bikes???? I love ur contents, especially when you restore bikes... I learn more from you

@thorstenmetalhead9666 2 ай бұрын

Very well explained. Please emphesise in the next video more, that preload does not make a suspension stiffer. The spring rate stays the same! Preload just changes the sag/geometry of the bike under a static load. If the springrate doesn't work for the weight of the rider it should be changed out. I'm to heavy for stock springs on most motorycles and it makes a very notable difference between maxed out preload dial with a standard spring in comparison to a proper springrate for my weight.

@shibapatrol801 2 ай бұрын

For majority of riders out there, the stock shock is usually good enough as long as it gives preload adjustment. Compression/rebound adjustments (and more) are really just for riders looking to maximizing their lap times/riding experience where the shocks are actually being put through their paces. Someone who just commutes to work/does a bit of touring on weekend won't see much benefit from an aftermarket shock. You'd be best served with correctly adjusting your current shock or replacing the OEM shock if it hasn't been touched in years (much cheaper)

@betruly7894 2 ай бұрын

You didn't ride with Harley Sportster OEM shocks. 😂 I'm around 150lb those shocks will catapult me in the air at every bump at speed over 30 mph. No return rebound what so ever. 100% made from rubbish. Harley should sell the bikes as hardtail and offer better shocks as option only 😂. Enjoy your ride bro !

@gorkzop 2 ай бұрын

Totally disagree. My Xt600 has WP front and rear shocks and it's just Way better to drive and more fun Okay maybe progressive springs in the stock suspension would get it 80% to what I have/need.. but on many cheaper bikes the suspension is wacky and in my opinion after good tires is the best upgrade

@shibapatrol801 2 ай бұрын

@@gorkzop Well I can't comment about your specific bike specifically but my point was that majority of riders won't benefit, that's not to say that some won't (like yourself)

@Jagknorr 2 ай бұрын

I played with my front forks preload and rebound and wow what a difference it can make to make the bike track a line through a corner or wallow off towards the ditch. Definitely worth playing with to understand things. Its also crazy that when you get it dialed in, your talking a millimeter of a turn makes a gigantic difference. Its real crazy.

@Kim_Miller 2 ай бұрын

My Triumph Tiger 900 GT Pro has rear shock adjustable on the fly on the dash panel. It's kind of funny sitting on the bike and adjusting the preload and the bike raises or lowers itself a couple of inches. Riding modes further adjust the rear and I can fine tune rebound across a range of nine settings.

@pabsocs 2 ай бұрын

amazing content. If i had one desire i would say even deeper. ive always wanted to know how to set up a bike properely but it feels like magic

@giannismarkogiannis 2 ай бұрын

Twin shocks are still being used by big companies ( Honda,Yamaha) on their 125cc scooters or mopeds

@pauloconnor7951 2 ай бұрын

I have cheap Taiwanese shocks on a Kawasaki . I must be lucky; they perform awesome !. Only mods I've done are RaceTech Cartridge emulators in front suspension which also I love !

@chrisdadigger1018 2 ай бұрын

If you’re lucky enough to be between 140-180 lbs you will never have to worry about buying the adjustable suspension. The stock will be just fine for you.

@lenz930 2 ай бұрын

no, it's not

@YeeLolBoi 2 ай бұрын

Absolutely not

@stockstunna 2 ай бұрын

Exceptional video. Now I understand shocks a bit better 😀

@FREE_PUREBLOOD333 2 ай бұрын

I'll watch this video on the rebound, I'm sagging a bit at the moment, probably feeling a bit of compression, but I'm sure I'll spring back to normal soon. 😬👍

@exothermal.sprocket 2 ай бұрын

You might benefit from some traction.

@bartjaspers240 2 ай бұрын

The differences are really shocking!

@chamber40 2 ай бұрын

Also ordered Bitubo rear shocks for my HD VROD.

@pauloconnor7951 2 ай бұрын

4:47 Rebound is other way my friend. Downward motion .

@zain786ification 2 ай бұрын

The main thing about adjustable shocks is the preload, i didnt know wtf was that until i added luggage on the rear then the front handle bars started to vibrate under slow speeds, so had to adjust the preload on the rear shocks on my vfr .

@MotoDash1100 2 ай бұрын

Have trouble feeling like time is passing on your 3am-3pm shift? Turn on notifications and you'll get one from your Sunday -cartoon- Moto Morning channel at 9am, .. only 6 hours left! .. Makes the shift feel all that much faster. (Someone send caffeine. Saturday I was awake since 6am Friday, and today I'm only on 3 ½ hours of sleep... caffeine should be a employer-provided safety equipment.

@CHAPNOE 2 ай бұрын

First shock vid i have seen that talks about shock length changing steering geometry. lots of vids on installing lowered shocks on bikes but no one addresses how it affects steering good video do you still have a promo code for Quad Lock want to purchase another

@bdalasile4476 2 ай бұрын

Informatively “Shocking” Video❤😅

@A_u_g_u_s_t26 2 ай бұрын

Amazing content

@Sir_Cactus 2 ай бұрын

Not having a piston to seperate the oil from the gas is not such a big problem as you say it is. The oil and gas do not mix that easily. Only under extreme stress for extended periods of time (like in motorsport) does this become a problem. When the shock is mounted horizontally or upside down, I admit that a seperating piston is necessary. Furthermore, the twin shock design is also not as bad as you say it is. Yes, it is not optimal, but it is not terrible either. The problem with Harley Davidson motorcycles is not the twin shock design, but the way the swingarm is mounted. Not to the frame, but to the heavily unbalanced engine, which is mounted to the frame using rubber bushings. It also ain't that rare that the engine is not mounted perfectly straight and level, which does not help the handling.

@katsuya2742 2 ай бұрын

As long as it fiit you, it works 👍

@collinslagat3458 2 ай бұрын

Do aftermarket shocks and front suspension fit (almost) any bikes?

@stefanhansen5882 2 ай бұрын

Interesting. Why is it obvious at 3:31?

@oricardomiranda 2 ай бұрын

I’m shocked 😂

@wobblysauce 2 ай бұрын

Sticker shock.

@Rhetorical346 2 ай бұрын

3:30 "Obviously mixing oil and nitrogen together is a bad idea." Why?

@samsonsoturian6013 Ай бұрын

If you ain't racing you don't need anything more than stock parts

@SimSimon87 2 ай бұрын

I wonder why front mono shocks are not a thing yet. There are bicycles with only one fork arm, why not try this on a motorcycle? Make it extra beefy and you'll never have speed wobble ever again!

@PeterR0035 2 ай бұрын

😮Since +15 YEARS, some BMW models and all BMW GS models have single front shock. And oh yeah, that doesn't help against speed wobble at all... 😅

@exothermal.sprocket 2 ай бұрын

All sorts of stuff has been tried on motorcycles over the years. Front swingarms (Yamaha GTS1000). Front monoshock action (BMW for example). Other complex things that ultimately achieve some kind of goal but end up being super complex and many totally lose feedback from the road surface to the rider's arms. The telescopic fork remains the least costly, most communicative system that does a commendable job. The Telelever system on BMW and the current Goldwing solve the brake-dive issue, but they also mostly eliminate traction feedback to the rider. Doing the "lefty" single fork system might be possible but it would require some pretty stout and thick parts that would resist flexing and fatigue at the wheel axle and the steering yoke. Consider how much bending force is put on fork tubes under hard braking. You also have to control wheel direction vs. handlebar direction by some kind of rotational control, especially if you were to experience speed wobble. Much less control with a single tube setup vs two. They do it on bicycles, but bicycles rarely see more than 30 mph, don't have to stop 600 pounds mass, or control a big heavy wheel set. Stiction has been a problem, the force needed to get forks to initiate movement. They put low friction coatings on tubes to reduce this issue. Another solution has been USD forks, where the bending moment is the large tubes toward the triple clamps, rather than right-side-up forks and all that bending moment is smaller tubes where the seals and larger tubes have to slide over the flexed portion of the small tube (under load). Also it moves the oil and heavy stuff to the "sprung" side of the chassis and allows the lighter components (unsprung) to move up and down with the wheel, with less inertia and resistance to motion.

@SimSimon87 2 ай бұрын

@@exothermal.sprocket Wow, thank you so much for your elaborate answer! I have no further questions :)

@exothermal.sprocket 2 ай бұрын

@@SimSimon87 Happy to help!

@chemnitzel 2 ай бұрын

More socks please!

@My_Gaming_Mind 2 ай бұрын

Bro has no idea about 3rd world countries. If it's built, it can be rebuilt. Nothing is irreparable, it's all about the worth.

@lucascarracedo7421 2 ай бұрын

Thing is in first world countries the people who'd be rebuilding cost more than replacing the part usually. The opposite applies to third world countries where manual labor is way cheaper, and goods cost a lot, especially imported ones.

@vamsee6925 2 ай бұрын

@@lucascarracedo7421if that is the case, that is what should be said in the video. anyway, true true.

@exothermal.sprocket 2 ай бұрын

The cost of recycling and creating better components in 1st world countries is less costly than paying service technicians to fix "permanent" components. It's a knowledge thing. It's a time thing. It's a value-of-currency thing with the inefficient manufacturing systems we have to work with.

@bbt0101 2 ай бұрын

Repairing a stock rear shock here in my country lasts 100km if you're lucky. Lol. They're disposable for a freaking reason.

@xsdfl4244 2 ай бұрын

Most stock shock are irrepairable because of their design you cant fill the gas back in. The only way to repair them would be for you to have the factory machinery.

@garyhoward4064 2 ай бұрын

Another difference: the price..

@FlesHBoX 2 ай бұрын

gah! @5:14 Tension is the opposite of compression, if you were adding tension it would make the shock operate completely different, lol If your suspension is experiencing tension, your bike is probably upside down, being hung by the wheels... that or The Hulk is holding on to your bike by the wheel and swinging it around as a weapon.

@stevebeket8444 2 ай бұрын

Harley models - Sportster - mono shock Softail - mono shock Touring - mono shock. Not so allergic to innovation after all. 🤔 Maybe not the right channel for us dynosaurs

@exothermal.sprocket 2 ай бұрын

More than 2 inches of rear travel is a start. They have a way to go to get a usual 5 inches or more.

@joek81981 2 ай бұрын

I've never played with my doodads. I have this feeling that touching anything will only make it worse than it was.

@ChaosCauses 2 ай бұрын

That was my fear for years as well lol

@exothermal.sprocket 2 ай бұрын

Basic understanding is pretty important before turning. Also make sure you know where dials currently are, so you can always return them if things don't improve.

@betruly7894 2 ай бұрын

I'm a Chinese boss in a shit hole somewhere lost in China without an known address. I'm the number 1 and only Harley Davisson supplier of those tubes filled with fry oil and a used spring. I have around 20 persons working for me in my little garage 👌😁7d/7d 24hr/24hr Lately I'm producing the same tubes for an Indian company Royal Enfield.