Basics of Kargyyra throat singing with Ren!

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Ren Vas Terul

Ren Vas Terul

Күн бұрын

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@RenVasTerul
@RenVasTerul 3 жыл бұрын
Hi! Here are some newer throat singing tutorials that I've recorded. Be sure to check them out too! 😊 How to Throat Sing VERY LOW: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oqTOqK2Op7OWeJY How to go Low: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eX-tqYWOjdlmftE How to learn overtone singing: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bZKYfHSsjrJ7oJo Please subscribe to the channel and hit that notficiation bell 😊🔔 Cheers!
@contecrusoe
@contecrusoe 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks brother
@OneManShow1964
@OneManShow1964 2 жыл бұрын
Your English didn't present any problems as far as being understood. So far I think I sound like Godzilla wearing a shock collar but it is interesting enough to put some time into it. Maybe I'll improve or maybe not. Your sound is kind of what I'm after, so however you learned your technique it was clearly effective.
@anderslarsen2311
@anderslarsen2311 2 жыл бұрын
Stupid people who want to learn everything curious as hell. Why cant people just enjoy it.
@Xogroroth666
@Xogroroth666 2 жыл бұрын
Your English is fine. It is more than decently understandable, something not even some Americans can do (thinking about "mumble rap", for instance). No need to apologise, you're doing more than well on that.
@Xogroroth666
@Xogroroth666 2 жыл бұрын
Hmmm, your Kargyraa is not that low, like for instance that of the Gyoto monks from Tibet. Also, going low, I hear a deformation in the tones, maybe practice on this a wee more? :) Go check Rowan Hartsuiker here on KZbin, he has a neat, low Kargyraa, that is tonally marvellous. :) I hope you see this as constructive.
@morganrogue5305
@morganrogue5305 3 жыл бұрын
He sounds like a warrior from an ancient time, I sound like a dying chicken
@RenVasTerul
@RenVasTerul 3 жыл бұрын
Hah, don't worry man :D You can work it out
@morganrogue5305
@morganrogue5305 3 жыл бұрын
@@RenVasTerul thank you :)
@0aryta
@0aryta 3 жыл бұрын
same man
@adinfinitum669
@adinfinitum669 2 жыл бұрын
you need to kill the dying chicken to become the ancient warrior
@taros1428
@taros1428 2 жыл бұрын
At least your connection to nature seems good…
@charlesrmarsh232
@charlesrmarsh232 2 жыл бұрын
I started doing this naturally in early childhood. So early that I could not remember how to tell someone how to learn do it! Thank you. This helps!
@xhappybunnyx
@xhappybunnyx 6 ай бұрын
that cough thing really worked; instantly felt that gurgling vibration register
@lannysanders6043
@lannysanders6043 3 жыл бұрын
dont change a thing my friend. we love you the way you are
@Bolshevik1973
@Bolshevik1973 4 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate you taking time to do this video, it was amazing. Also, your english is perfect. I have a question for you, at 2:24, what is the first style of throat singing you describe? Do you have a video tutorial on this? I have been practicing throat singing for a short time, and it sounds like I can almost hit those "overtones" (that "whistling" sound). I would like to know if you have something on this style that will help me practice better. Thank you so much.
@RenVasTerul
@RenVasTerul 4 жыл бұрын
Hi! I do have some vague idea on other styles, and like I know the theory, but I cannot perform them correctly quite yet. I'm still learning myself :-) I may record something on Khoomei and Sygyt when I get a better hang of them. Currently my priority is a video on achieving low notes in kargyyra, cause its most requested thing :-D
@jaythewolf
@jaythewolf Жыл бұрын
I've been listening to throat singing for 15 years and was always way too intimidated to try. I decided to give it a try... I could say i at least tried. Turns out Kargyraa came pretty easily to me . Granted i need lots more practice but it's coming along. Also your English is fantastic. I was born in Poland but i left at a very early age. I can speak it well enough but my writing sucks. So greatly appreciate this video👍 Love all your stuff man keep up the great work
@_volleKanneHoschi_
@_volleKanneHoschi_ 2 жыл бұрын
I am very grateful to you for these tips.... And I'm very excited about how low you can lower your voice when you sing.... Thank you very much... I think I am too ambitious.... I always don't like to stop when my throat is scratching very very hard. xD
@Kazner0h
@Kazner0h 3 жыл бұрын
Your English is great. I had absolutely no problem understanding you.
@Aelugh6500K_vocalcoach
@Aelugh6500K_vocalcoach Жыл бұрын
7:42 🐐 method and the second step is 8:20 Only the one that worked for me
@Minunmaani
@Minunmaani Жыл бұрын
I started to learn these things to sing "Misty Mountains", and I accidently learned to sing higher easyer, and low voice, and Chandelier. But, it is not vice to eat chili before this practise. I'll tell you.
@dawnclifford9766
@dawnclifford9766 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome love this.. Very helpful!!!
@waomawingu1972
@waomawingu1972 2 жыл бұрын
Ty jesteś mój inspiration (sorry my Polish is at an embrionic level haha).
@ForestFae
@ForestFae 3 жыл бұрын
kiitos
@udownwito.p.p4153
@udownwito.p.p4153 3 жыл бұрын
I started practising 2 days ago, i can throat sing now the tones thing i gotta get. Thanks
@dimitriykostov5087
@dimitriykostov5087 4 жыл бұрын
Huge respect!
@aliaslou4698
@aliaslou4698 2 жыл бұрын
i cannot just get that low tones that resonates wtih body :D helped a lot another one :D no need for subtitles
@Mark_Grand
@Mark_Grand 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing! Just watched Anna Marie and this was in my recommendations to watch next. How similar is what you do to what she does? It seems you use your throat more, with the “coughing technique”, and she is not using her throat as much. But once again I only just today discovered people can do this. I have heard beatboxing battles where the beatboxers used a little bit of throat singing, how do you call it, Kargyyra, but I didn’t know it was this type of voice manipulation.
@RenVasTerul
@RenVasTerul 4 жыл бұрын
Okay, so what Anna Maria Hefele does is called overtonic singing, and at its core it is essentially the same thing as is used in all types of throat singing (khoomei, sygyt, kargyyra etc) :-) It's those high pitched "whistling" sounds produced by the position of lips and tongue. Kargyyra on other hand (the growly one), is commonly used in beatbox and is still pushed to its technical limits by those creative amazing people :-D They tend to call it "throat bass" but its pretty much the same thing ;-)
@Mark_Grand
@Mark_Grand 4 жыл бұрын
Ren Vas Terul Thank you 🙏 😁 Respect for replying so quickly on an older video.
@Mark_Grand
@Mark_Grand 4 жыл бұрын
Also, do you know of a KZbin video where someone shows their progress learning overtonic singing or throat singing? Like, over the course of a year or so from beginner till they are pretty good?
@Scry999
@Scry999 3 жыл бұрын
great video it really did help me a bit here, how long did it take to get to your level of ability and also how often did you practice?
@RenVasTerul
@RenVasTerul 3 жыл бұрын
About three years, almost every day couple minutes at least
@dappischerdepp4493
@dappischerdepp4493 5 жыл бұрын
Please give a lesson about what you say at 10:27
@cooper8617
@cooper8617 3 жыл бұрын
Ren Vas Terul is based af
@dispater5023
@dispater5023 4 жыл бұрын
Your English is great, brother. Keep doing what you're doing. Thank you for the lesson.
@CSPace-km8ms
@CSPace-km8ms 3 жыл бұрын
@@MattyRlufc To build on MattyRlufc comment: As a native English speaker that lived in Europe for a good while, the average European's English is very good! Ren Vas Teral your English is more than excellent. Keep it up. Thank you for the video.
@cnh642
@cnh642 4 жыл бұрын
i want to learn this shit and go to the forest and feel like i am super og chad
@RenVasTerul
@RenVasTerul 4 жыл бұрын
Yup. Gotta love the faces of mushroom gathering people, when I suddenly pop out of the bushes doing *kargyyrish growling noises* casually :-D
@N8URNURD
@N8URNURD 4 жыл бұрын
@@RenVasTerul I literally had this happen yesterday. Practicing Kargyraa by a lake looking for chanterelles and I see 3 people with mushroom baskets looking at me like "DAFUQ?!"
@RenVasTerul
@RenVasTerul 4 жыл бұрын
@@N8URNURD Nice :D ♡
@DannyGu33
@DannyGu33 3 жыл бұрын
Do NoFap and you'll be a chad for sure lol
@aurorastone1670
@aurorastone1670 3 жыл бұрын
Your English is wonderful and the accent is quite precious no need to be insecure about it! You also taught me how to throat sing in a little over 11 minutes so that’s also impressive! It’ll take some practice for my throat to get used to but I think I’ve got it! Thank you
@RenVasTerul
@RenVasTerul 3 жыл бұрын
Hey nice! Keep it up! :-)
@RenVasTerul
@RenVasTerul 5 жыл бұрын
Shoutout to all the Heilung fans, that asked me to make this! Skol! :D
@Ashoka12-k2y
@Ashoka12-k2y 4 жыл бұрын
Accent always work
@Ashoka12-k2y
@Ashoka12-k2y 4 жыл бұрын
I finally got it
@icandancejuno
@icandancejuno 4 жыл бұрын
Just subbed stay trippy
@aliarfana6808
@aliarfana6808 4 жыл бұрын
Make more tutorials on it...I really wanna master this style..some exercises and more tips would definitely help us.
@RenVasTerul
@RenVasTerul 4 жыл бұрын
@@aliarfana6808 Alrighty! :-) Will do
@briandoesstuff4831
@briandoesstuff4831 4 жыл бұрын
you have the lowest kargyraa voice i ever heard. its awesome your english is fine.
@MrStatistx
@MrStatistx 4 жыл бұрын
I got the coughing part down at least XD
@RenVasTerul
@RenVasTerul 4 жыл бұрын
That's already something :P You can now progress from there :D
@zachungobogungo9379
@zachungobogungo9379 4 жыл бұрын
pretty good tutorial brochacho. Not really sure I agree with the concept of increasing pressure or tension, since in standard dag kargyraa it can be kind of important for learners to keep in mind to stay relaxed. Styles of khoomei and sygyt involve this concept of tension (constriction) a bit more, but not so much kargyraa. I try to think of it as more of an activation. In my experience teaching this, there can also be some negative effects of teaching it by coughing or clearing of the throat. I'm not a vocal anatomy expert, but there are definitely muscles involved in those processes other than the false vocal folds, and they often give learners habits that inhibit their tone, and in extreme cases their ability to initiate FVF vibration at all. Most commonly people tend to sort of"curl" their voice in something that sounds a bit like a kermit the frog impression lol. To singers learning through this way, definitely pay close attention not only to the amount of vibration you're getting, but also the other aspects of your tone. Really, everything above your neck should be configured just about the same as it would be if you were singing regularly. You don't seem to have these problems at all though ren, yours is pretty clean. Just something to keep in mind for learners who use this method. Also, it would be super cool if you'd join our discord server where we have a bunch of written lessons on the main throat singing styles, and we're constantly making ourselves available for live vc coaching. It's all free lol. discord.gg/RfE3hY3
@RenVasTerul
@RenVasTerul 4 жыл бұрын
Wooooah! Man! Thank you! :O To be completely honest I'm a self-learner. My dad once took part in Gendos' workshops and then he told me some basics, but from then on, it was just experimenting on my own. So I do know that this may not be the best way to learn. But tbh I just dont know a different one :-P I will surely join the discord! I would love to learn more, so I could teach it better. Thank you! ♡
@zachungobogungo9379
@zachungobogungo9379 4 жыл бұрын
Ren Vas Terul Yeah, Im pretty much a self learner as well. Nowadays I feel much more secure in my ability in terms of the fundamental styles because we managed to get robert mclaughlin to join the discord, and I got his approval for my khoomei lol. Cant wait to see you over there!
@animeman1062
@animeman1062 4 жыл бұрын
@@RenVasTerul react to my channel it's called anime man 106
@akazaynab
@akazaynab 4 жыл бұрын
I got it! I'm a girl hehe I've been practicing all day and finally got it. Thank you! ❤
@slxxpcastle
@slxxpcastle 4 жыл бұрын
You have nice Kolovrat
@chrissncrossn6770
@chrissncrossn6770 4 жыл бұрын
Video please. :) Never heard a girl/woman do throat singing
@akazaynab
@akazaynab 4 жыл бұрын
@@slxxpcastle Oh thank you :)
@akazaynab
@akazaynab 4 жыл бұрын
@@chrissncrossn6770 Sure I'll make one
@jacobj623
@jacobj623 4 жыл бұрын
Wait what does that sound like for a woman to make these low pitched sounds?
@MSaleh-vy8rr
@MSaleh-vy8rr 4 жыл бұрын
After playing hours of Ghost Of Tsushima, I want to learn to throat sing. I find this throat singing very satisfying and divine.
@Ondemas
@Ondemas 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for the video! Holy shit your low tones are cool, would really appreciate a video about it! Also, your english isn't bad at all, it's very easy to understand you. Your accent sounds very similar to finnish people when they speak english. :D Cheers from Sweden!
@RenVasTerul
@RenVasTerul 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback! :D Yeah, I think that I will make a video about some more advanced kargyyra tips ;) Good to know, that I can now pretend to ve Finnish :P Greets!
@comfindens5706
@comfindens5706 Жыл бұрын
Oh wow i got it immediately!!! Thanks for the tutorial man! I did subharmonic singing for about a month before watching this video, and it translated really well.
@RenVasTerul
@RenVasTerul Жыл бұрын
Awesome dude :D I'm happy you got it!
@buzzinsilence
@buzzinsilence 7 ай бұрын
“Regardless of which forests in the world you do your exercises in, with this powerful voice, no bear will dare to come within a 10-mile radius.”😅
@RenVasTerul
@RenVasTerul 3 жыл бұрын
FB page: facebook.com/renvasterul/ Hi! There's a follow-up video on my channel, where I explain how to achieve low notes, using this technique :-) You can check it out *here* : kzbin.info/www/bejne/eX-tqYWOjdlmftE Don't forget to subscribe for more music tutorials ♡
@brucie8062
@brucie8062 4 жыл бұрын
i personally learned how to do Khargyraa in two days and on day 3 when i got the hang of it straight off the bat, it felt amazing. I was wondering though, are you able to do khoomei and if you can, please do explain how to do it in detail because, I can do it but not to well, i sound like baby sheep when i do it.
@overtonefinds6385
@overtonefinds6385 4 жыл бұрын
you may love this one then, it's a workshop by Alash Ensemble, they explain every technique in detail. /watch?v=3muFdEu8dQM P.s.: many people learn throat singing in three days but very few can do it in a relaxed and efficient way (like professionals), because it takes time and perseverance. You may sound like a baby sheep now, but you will soon sound like a badass goat :-) much respect for your humbleness, it will take you far
@chrissncrossn6770
@chrissncrossn6770 4 жыл бұрын
Nice Video. I learned it with a beatbox bassdrum like "when i rock" from Elektrochemie LK. Awsome sound to shout "Harigasti Teiwa" from Heilungs In Maidjan in a large Stairwell with Kargyraa style. Great Hall effect :D Then name the Runes with very deep sound. My workmates were very impressed. Never heard a sound like this from a human mouth. My wife dislike it^^. So I practiced at work, driving my folklift
@TorchwoodPandP
@TorchwoodPandP Жыл бұрын
Totally fascinating. And your English is Fine!
@marcosmmaentertainment4448
@marcosmmaentertainment4448 3 жыл бұрын
I can make make a I’ve been practicing for a 3 weeks I can make a high overtones but I need to learn to make it last before I go outa breath
@TsovooBaatarzevseg
@TsovooBaatarzevseg 4 жыл бұрын
You are THE MAN, I am mongolian and couldn’t find lessons of Kharhiraa {khar-hyr-ugh (ᠬᠠᠷᠬᠢᠷᠠᠭ᠎ᠠ)} in mongolian. Now I learn Hoomei (ᠬᠥᠭᠡᠮᠡᠢ) from Polish guy :P {coughing and “mai”-ing (ᠮᠠᠶᠢᠯᠠᠬᠤ)} :) and yes it is mongolian script from Chinggis Khaan :P written upside to down, not left to right
@TsovooBaatarzevseg
@TsovooBaatarzevseg 4 жыл бұрын
also I’m wondering where and how did you learn :D
@RenVasTerul
@RenVasTerul 4 жыл бұрын
Oh nice! I'm happy to help :-) Well, the way I learned is that my father once took part in Gendos' workshops, and after that he sometimes used to throat sing around the house ;-) One day, when I got into music, I asked him to teach me, and he told me some basics. Then I was just kind of experimenting, and learning by trial and error. I must admit that I still am not really good at it, but I got some basic skills :-)
@RenVasTerul
@RenVasTerul 4 жыл бұрын
Its super nice to see that this video can even be helpful to an actual Mongolian ♡
@lingoteen
@lingoteen 3 жыл бұрын
Doing kargyyra type throat singing is really cool. Glad to be able to do it. Btw I found your channel today
@RenVasTerul
@RenVasTerul 4 жыл бұрын
Okay, Y'all. I get it :-D You want to get those *LOW* notes. It can be done, and as a matter of fact I recorded video on this already xD BUT, quite sadly in the video the sound was corrupted by wind :'( SO, I will record it once again, and publish as soon as I can :-) Peace ♡
@nekosareamazung843
@nekosareamazung843 4 жыл бұрын
Właśnie włączyłem ten film bo zainteresowałem się zespołem The Hu a tu patrzę mówisz że jesteś z polski :D
@RenVasTerul
@RenVasTerul 4 жыл бұрын
@@nekosareamazung843 Ano jestem ;-)
@nekosareamazung843
@nekosareamazung843 4 жыл бұрын
@@RenVasTerul Myślisz że jeśli po chwili 10-15 minut próbowania zaczyna mnie boleć gardło to powinienem przestać na dzisiaj? Troszku mi się zdaje że te 15 minut dziennie to troszku mało by było więc nie jestem pewien
@RenVasTerul
@RenVasTerul 4 жыл бұрын
@@nekosareamazung843 Wiesz, to jest tak: drapać będzie długo. Musisz odróżnić uczucie lekkiego dyskomfortu, drapania, od bólu. Po pierwsze - nawodnienie. Ciepła, ale nie gorąca kawa albo herbata (bez cytryny). Po drugie - dużo wytrwałości i uporu, ale tylko do momentu, kiedy poczujesz, że dalej już nie powinieneś. Kiedy pomyślisz sobie "hmm, no dobra, jak pocisnę dalej, to przesadzę" - wtedy odpocznij i spróbuj jutro. Najgorsze co może się stać to mocna chrypa ;-) Ekseprymentuj, szukaj własnych granic możliwości, nie przesadzaj i będzie git :-)
@RenVasTerul
@RenVasTerul 4 жыл бұрын
Ogólnie to jest też tak, że dobrze jest raz zmęczyć się tak porządnie, np godzina z przerwami, i potem w następnych dniach już tylko tak 10-15 minut, ale regularnie, codziennie. To jest dosyć efektywny system.
@EmmanuelLambertCanada
@EmmanuelLambertCanada 5 жыл бұрын
Skål brother thank you from Vinland 🇨🇦
@ritchey635
@ritchey635 4 жыл бұрын
Unnecessary insecure about your English, you’re really understandable, that is what counts, great tutorial!
@piratepudge7453
@piratepudge7453 2 жыл бұрын
I think Kargyyra is similar to sub harmonic. I'm not sure.
@RenVasTerul
@RenVasTerul 2 жыл бұрын
Well technically speaking it is a technique that uses subharmonies, although they are produced in a different way than the "classical/choir" subharmonic singing. Yet they sound quite similar, which makes them easy to mistake often ;) Sometimes I cannot hear the difference when someone does subharmonic singing in a certain way
@heylloh
@heylloh Жыл бұрын
Oh my gosh, I just did it!!!!! You are awesome!!! Female and just did it… It does kinda hurt, though. You sound like a Viking! This video was amazing.
@brianhyland81
@brianhyland81 2 жыл бұрын
Please don't apologize for trying to speak "our" bullshit language. Through travels around the world I've dabbled in many languages. And most of them are much simpler, and more graceful than English.
@paradigma101
@paradigma101 2 жыл бұрын
This is a video of me trying shit out right after watching this, so it's one hundred percent embarasing, but it crossed my mind someone might find fail results useful, since it's more likely your first tries will sound more like this and less like the actual sardukar in the video above. As for @Ren, this is the mistakes we're gonna be making. Lol. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qmnRgpaQe7ecgtk There's a few very short intervals where it felt kind of rightish, but I have no idea yet what kind of vocal box shape will make it resonate, much less the movements/changes to modulate it (but looking forward to trying/finding out!)
@DirekteAktion1
@DirekteAktion1 Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot Ren (I'm the guy who asked for tutorials in the Folk Metal grove)! Don't sweat the English, your accent isn't hard to understand in the slightest.
@majcrash
@majcrash 2 жыл бұрын
Your English is better than many Americans. Our public schools aren't very good.
@997miko
@997miko 6 ай бұрын
Sardaukarzy na kolanaach by czekali na Twoj zew :) dzisiaj trenowalem przy Twoim Chant i bylo Zajeb!@$% :) dziekuje !!!!
@sijorojasjrchannel5340
@sijorojasjrchannel5340 3 ай бұрын
Do drink warm water not too hot not medium hot , just warm for the throat , it wil smoothen the vocal muscle! I did once that Sygyt overtone by lucky , after drinking mineral water that is not warm I lost the overtone! 😭
@KiaraBaol
@KiaraBaol 6 ай бұрын
By listening to this video for the first time I managed to get close to this sound (but higher in tone - I'm a woman) and without particular strain. I'm not going to do it in public any time soon, I was just curious 😂
@kevinsolove458
@kevinsolove458 2 жыл бұрын
So I like your coughing throat tightening method of learning. I could not find the right feeling from the other video I watched but by the time I tried your way I did it twice and my throat was hurting... so I'll be waiting a little before trying it again but big help! Thanks and I prefer your English it's plenty good 👍 maybe throw in how to say "throat singing" in your native tongue
@skitz-oh
@skitz-oh 2 жыл бұрын
Diaphragm! Also kinda like a growl but not quite, more like a fry but really low but not the same feeling.. I must've been able to do them forever but not be able to control them. I can control them now thank you very much!
@JackNotJack
@JackNotJack Жыл бұрын
Your english is absolutely fine. In fact you speak it very well. Thank you for the video.
@josephvanderlinde6494
@josephvanderlinde6494 Жыл бұрын
@3:17 and @5:34 it’s unbelievable you are making that. Is it normal to feel like I need a throat lozenge after? Absolutely want to learn and subbed right away!
@edriwingdecyan3823
@edriwingdecyan3823 2 жыл бұрын
You're english is great. I am french, we speak english like... well, frenchs XD
@LocksUnruly
@LocksUnruly Жыл бұрын
Man, I can throat sing vowels, but I have a hard time singing actual words and sentences 'cause the raspiness just disappears after a while xD
@dantewolf1960
@dantewolf1960 3 жыл бұрын
Hey just because you aren't a ""professional"" does not mean you don't know what your doing my friend. It actually gives us the chance to learn and grow with you. I prefer that to someone who will just have a short temper if you don't get it right away. Awesome tutorial.
@amirsaid5388
@amirsaid5388 2 жыл бұрын
thank you for the tips! great video. I am an excellent goat impersonator, I will try this method!
@murath3135
@murath3135 3 жыл бұрын
9:25 example: Tyva Kyzy is throat music band founded by women
@perrymason866
@perrymason866 2 жыл бұрын
Half-Tight, Half-Loose Throat… Thanks, that’s a band name now!
@skitz-oh
@skitz-oh 2 жыл бұрын
You speak English extremely well don't worry brother!
@monkesteel7008
@monkesteel7008 2 жыл бұрын
Yall Wana learn this to do heavy metal I do this because I'm a bored online high school student and Wana scare the fuck out people for early classes
@CptEddyPrice
@CptEddyPrice 3 жыл бұрын
highly recommend to watch other because you are not specialist? Ok bye.
@xzenor
@xzenor 3 жыл бұрын
I 'think' I have the basic technique figured out.. but it's just a growl and I'm breathing out a LOT of air when I make that sound. Is that just the beginning and should I keep trying? Or am I doing something wrong? btw, nothing wrong with your English.
@RenVasTerul
@RenVasTerul 3 жыл бұрын
If you feel like you are losing a lot of air, and therefore can't sustain the sound for long, you may be doing it wrong. Make sure that you are using your diaphragm to push the air out (put a hand on your belly - you should feel as it squeezes when you breathe out). It's likely that you are indeed using a growl technique (like a dog/wolf's growl, not the metal one), which does in fact use a lot of air from your lungs. Generally growl resonance can be felt quite "low" in your throat (close to the base of neck), while proper kargyyra throat singing should resonate higher up, closer to your bottom jaw :) Hope it helps. Keep trying! ;)
@xzenor
@xzenor 3 жыл бұрын
@@RenVasTerul This does help. Thank you. It explains why I wasn't able to get a vowel in there. I think I got it now.. kinda.. The only vowel I get for a short while before it breaks is a u (like in fur) and it feels much higher in my throat where it closes when swallowing. i should stop now though.. it starts to hurt.
@RenVasTerul
@RenVasTerul 3 жыл бұрын
@@xzenor Yea, take brakes, drink water and you'll be fine ;) Give your muscles a day or two to regenerate nicely and then keep goin ;)
@xzenor
@xzenor 3 жыл бұрын
@@RenVasTerul will do. Thank you for your help.
@mychajlospyrko9346
@mychajlospyrko9346 4 жыл бұрын
Really great video man. Thanks. From this moment I start practicing with this method. Barzo dobre ❤️
@laszlonothdurft1167
@laszlonothdurft1167 2 жыл бұрын
WTH you can speak on the gods language that singin!! You are natural!!!
@gastonrobles2870
@gastonrobles2870 4 жыл бұрын
fantastic low notes, man, just fantastic молодец!
@thebush6077
@thebush6077 2 жыл бұрын
It seemed so approachable and then he went full blown dubstep growl and I immediately lost all hope lmao
@paulsprouse7239
@paulsprouse7239 2 жыл бұрын
I'm from England my friend and your English is better than mine!
@Mycrazyadventur91
@Mycrazyadventur91 2 жыл бұрын
Your English vernacular is better then most Americans
@novafusionzero8730
@novafusionzero8730 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like regular beatboxing throat bass then all the sudden he goes fucking alien
@Blackhorseveteran
@Blackhorseveteran 3 жыл бұрын
I know this was a little while ago, but thank you for sharing your experience..I like that you say, straight up... it will be painfull. I thought I was doing it wrong..lol. I typically throat sing on my way to work in the morning. I have heard that it is good for your sinuses.
@RenVasTerul
@RenVasTerul 3 жыл бұрын
Well it sure is good for your vocals and voice range :)
@Psynthe
@Psynthe Жыл бұрын
Your English is superb, thank you for the tutorial
@TheGuy030770
@TheGuy030770 3 жыл бұрын
Don’t worry about your “terrible English”, we can all understand you, and that’s all that matters.
@EVERGLOW828
@EVERGLOW828 11 ай бұрын
Your English is really good, thanks for the lesson 🎉❤
@RathwulvenBushcraft
@RathwulvenBushcraft 2 жыл бұрын
Everyone is like “I got it in 5 minutes” het I am practicing for weeks now and cannot even get the vibration going - could this be an anatomical issue?
@RenVasTerul
@RenVasTerul 2 жыл бұрын
Yea man it took me like 6 months to get this somewhat under control. It's more difficult for some people, for some its easier :( But I would not give up if I were you :) If you want you can send me a sound message or a video on my Facebook page (same name as here) and maybe I will be able to help you out somehow :) Cheers!
@yungflyboii4687
@yungflyboii4687 3 жыл бұрын
He Just hits Vibration bass like its nothin crazy stuff
@aovoi101
@aovoi101 3 жыл бұрын
mongolia is not tuva...
@RenVasTerul
@RenVasTerul 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, now I know that. I didn't back then, when I recorded the video :( It is a very common misconception tho, and I didn't do my research
@JackKapral
@JackKapral 6 ай бұрын
Hej Kolego! Hi mate :) I found Your video while browsing yt for Dune videos and Your channel and skills are very nice. I play bass guitar, i really like acts like Heilung or Wardruna, i've seen Huun Huur Tu three or four times (at least two times in Wroclaw, my hometown :)) and i tried to incorporate throat singing into my music. I'd like to ask - how do You build stamina? Cause when i try to throat sing for longer time, i get that itch in my throat, sort of, You know, like you're a bit cold. Is there a way? :)
@RenVasTerul
@RenVasTerul 6 ай бұрын
Hejooo! :) From my experience I can only say this - practicing the right way and practicing regularly for long time. For me it was about 6 months daily practice to stop feeling itchiness. But now I sometimes feel it still, even after all this years. It depends on your overall health, body moisture (being even slightly dehydrated makes big difference), and current statd of your vocal muscles. Generally I'd sum it up like this: 1. Listen to your body - if you start to feel vocal fatigue, pain, lose of voice - stop, take at least 12 hour rest. 2. Drink water. Tea, coffe, sweet drinks will make your throat dry - water is hands down the best drink for vocals, but fruit juices are great too! Especially fresh or unfiltered orange juice, because it helps to clear your throat. 3. Practice daily, whenever you get a chance. Frequent, small practice session (even couple minutes) are better than 1 super long session. 4. Over time increase the amount of time you spend on practice daily. If you stay consistent - your stamina will eventually increase :)
@nitnickers
@nitnickers Жыл бұрын
Best video tutorial...thankyou so much.... I can make the sounds really well (I think) but It automatically makes me cough.... So since watching your vid., An you saying that it's Normal for the pain an will get better.. I'm going to carry on practicing an hopefully the coughing will eventually stop... ✌️... Also I'm female.. haha.. an I think it sounds dope!!!
@RenVasTerul
@RenVasTerul Жыл бұрын
Thanks and good luck with your practice! :) Drink plenty of water when training!
@ez-gm6it
@ez-gm6it 3 жыл бұрын
twój angielski jest bardzo dobry, nie mówiąc już o twoim wspaniałym wyjaśnieniu tej niesamowitej sztuki!
@hopelessviolin4690
@hopelessviolin4690 4 жыл бұрын
Wow this video is amazing but how did you make that sound at 3:17
@chrissncrossn6770
@chrissncrossn6770 4 жыл бұрын
With a lot of training you can "generate" high and low notes. I needet round about 1 month for very low notes. High notes are harder to hold. Please watch out. You can harm your vocal coards
@maurodruetta2671
@maurodruetta2671 2 жыл бұрын
Cool men! , good tips , very helpful video
@swierkupitok7264
@swierkupitok7264 Жыл бұрын
Czy jest łatwiej śpiewać w taki sposób jak się robi kupe?
@TimelessEpicLegends
@TimelessEpicLegends 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve been watching videos on this for weeks, even paid for a class, and you video has been the most helpful so far. Thank you! I would definitely like to see a video on how to go lower.
@posttenebraslux690
@posttenebraslux690 Жыл бұрын
Dude I just wanna say thank you so much. I love listening to Heilung and currently my favorite song is Asja and Norupo. They do some throat singing and it made me want to try it out. Plus, I recently started watching The Hu. I'm finally able to get some nice solid throaty sounds out! You're amazing man!
@haraldolof
@haraldolof 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for the guide! I've been practicing for a few months now and I feel like I can do the base sound, but the scratchiness in my throat keeps appearing after a minute or two. Am I doing something wrong or should I just keep trying (obviously I stop as soon as it starts hurting and make sure I hydrate)? A friend suggested putting more time on warming up, but I tried it and it doesn't make a difference. I would be very grateful for advice! Also, your english is fine, don't worry about it! =)
@RenVasTerul
@RenVasTerul 9 ай бұрын
Hi! Warming up is certainly important! :) There's many ways to do it though, so make sure to check out different options you can find online! One other thing is proper relaxation. When under stress and you push it, it can create tension in your neck or jaw and cause pain. But still, some itchiness in couple first months is normal :)
@charlief.7588
@charlief.7588 2 жыл бұрын
3:16 turned into dubstep throat singing awesome
@BuJammy
@BuJammy 5 ай бұрын
Jonny Cope's video is still the best.
@EricZenG
@EricZenG 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the tips and tricks 🙂
@matzeklingner3902
@matzeklingner3902 2 жыл бұрын
My Dog goes crazy when I do this...
@ollielewis7322
@ollielewis7322 4 жыл бұрын
I know im late, but your english is great and this video is amazing. Thank you
@sixtenjohansson5468
@sixtenjohansson5468 3 жыл бұрын
Moahaha, my neighbours are so gonna hate me...😂 Thanks for a great introduktion. 😄
@KaysiSoul
@KaysiSoul 5 жыл бұрын
Bardzo dobrze mowisz po angielsku, nie ponizaj swoich umiejetnosci ☺️ Ciekawy film. Ostatnio fascynuje mnie terapia dzwiekiem. Jest tam sporo na temat wibracji, ktore sami mozemy tworzyc uzywajac wlasnego glosu. Pozdrawiam
@RenVasTerul
@RenVasTerul 5 жыл бұрын
Istnieje u nas w domu taka mała tradycja wśród moich znajomych. Gdy po imprezie ktoś zamierza wyjechać, łapiemy go między siebie i trzymając się za ręce stojąc w ciasnym kręgu, wydajemy stały ton. Znajdujemy wspólny ton i wpadamy w rezonans, robiąc taki pożegnalny masaż dźwiękiem :D
@KaysiSoul
@KaysiSoul 5 жыл бұрын
Wspaniala tradycja ! 😊
@fasfasaafafa
@fasfasaafafa 2 жыл бұрын
you are in fact teaching it wrong dude. In khöömei kargyraa there is no throat constriction at all. The sound is solely produced by false vocal chords and they are vibrating the best when there is no tightness at all when doing Mountain-style 'dag' kargyraa. Totally relaxed. In steppe kargyraa there is some constriction and a different register is used.
@RenVasTerul
@RenVasTerul 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I kinda know that now. I didn't realise that when I was recording this video. I was self-learned so I learned it different way. I wouldn't necesarilly say that its wrong tho. It does not hurt or harm the voice if practiced properly and I think it's just a way easier way to learn throat singing. I am currently trying to learn the "proper" dag kargyyra, so I might do an update on this video in some time when I get a hold of this.
@ddazuulada
@ddazuulada 2 жыл бұрын
I've read that throat singing from Tuva developed from trying to mimic animals (at least it's a theory) and when I heard you I was like holy sh*t where did this beastly sound come from
@kagar3465
@kagar3465 2 жыл бұрын
Yes but nobody really knows who did it first. Tuvans, Mongols, and Altay people agree that the first people to sing like this were the nomads around the Altay mountains. Even Sayan Bapa from Huun Huur Tu said Tuvan, Mongol, Altay, even Buryat style is from the same source.
@amirsaid5388
@amirsaid5388 Жыл бұрын
Hey Ren! I just wanted to stop by to say thank you for your tutorial, it really helped me learn throat singing. I commented on this video 9 months ago and I've been training since then, it was a difficult path, but today I can already sing entire Heilung songs with throat singing. so once again thank you!
@RenVasTerul
@RenVasTerul Жыл бұрын
Hey! So nice to hear that! :D It actually made my day - reading this comment ♡ Really makes me feel happy that I helped some people to find that new, throatsinging voice :)
@RenVasTerul
@RenVasTerul Жыл бұрын
Keep up the good work man! :D It's a vast ocean of possibilites - human voice ♡
@jakehoot8811
@jakehoot8811 3 жыл бұрын
Your accent sounds german but could be dutch
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