Is This The End Of European Basketball?

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EuroLeague, EuroCup, Champions League and many domestic leagues in Europe face the same problem - lack of young talent. These players rather choose NCAA, G-League or other leagues, which offer better financial situation. Could this lead to the extinction of European basketball? Watch and find out.
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@maikotter9945
@maikotter9945 3 ай бұрын
ein Beitrag des Mittwoches, 19. Juni 2024 Moin = Hello! Compare your face to Jonathan Frakes (US American citizen; Star Trek; X Factor), please!
@pif7923
@pif7923 3 ай бұрын
For most fans euroleague will die the day dubai gets in
@ΙασοναςΟΜαριολης
@ΙασοναςΟΜαριολης 3 ай бұрын
nah they gonna increase the level i believe
@Makaronis99
@Makaronis99 3 ай бұрын
Simple question: Why?
@dextrane715
@dextrane715 3 ай бұрын
Nah, they have plenty of money, but that isnt nearly enough to be a true contender team.
@Yinon776
@Yinon776 3 ай бұрын
Dubai would increase the EL's financial strength, why would Euroleague fans be bothered by it?
@panicjova31210pozega
@panicjova31210pozega 3 ай бұрын
Nonsense. Why?
@andius88
@andius88 3 ай бұрын
Euroleague needs cash? Start selling EL media rights for what it’s worth, not some pocket change that’s so low that raises eyebrows - that’s 50M per year like wtf??
@andrijapfc
@andrijapfc 3 ай бұрын
If they could sell them for more, they would...look at the attendance numbers. Basketball is most popular in countries which are not very wealthy. In the countries that are wealthy, it's not that popular...
@lokeijak
@lokeijak 3 ай бұрын
Basketball has the potential to reach football level money in Europe
@judomaster222
@judomaster222 2 ай бұрын
There is allways somekind "Law" which Will secure Young Players in Europe. No NBA before age of 25 or big payments demand from USA universitys. Custms 😮😮, like for euro cars 😂😂😂
@adamorumcek
@adamorumcek 3 ай бұрын
Nothing to worry. As long as the teams in Europe stays at a comparable level to other European teams, fans will still watch the games. E.g. Serbian and Lithuanian teams are clearly not the best of Europe but they are playing in front of big crowds.
@斯蒂芬·约瓦尼奇
@斯蒂芬·约瓦尼奇 3 ай бұрын
Nah,euroleague is far behind
@gloopdogg1145
@gloopdogg1145 3 ай бұрын
Serbian clubs will not even play Euroleague if Russian clubs wasn't under sanctions,we in Serbia know that.Euroleague do everything to destroy small and poor markets,thay made BB just for Rich clubs,Serbian club can made 10 Nikola Jokic and next year Rich clubs will just buy all them,in NBA nobody can do that,just how in Usa thay dont go and buy young talents age 10,11 how in Ex Jugoslavia do clubs from Spaine for example,what thay do in football in South America,thay do that in bb...
@JohnDoe-fi2ot
@JohnDoe-fi2ot 3 ай бұрын
Euroleague is not doomed, but the win now mentality is terrible for a club, as rosters change massively every season and makes it impossible to integrate young talent. Coaches need to work in an environment where they can built for multiple years, just like in soccer.
@andrijapfc
@andrijapfc 3 ай бұрын
European clubs don't play in the Euroleague only...they also play their national leagues. It is in these national leagues that they have more room to develop young players. However the Euroleague with their system of making national leagues mostly irrelevant because winning a national championship has no effect on Euroleague participation (unlike in football with the UCL) has done a lot to starve the national leagues of cash and prestige. There needs to be a proper agreement between the Euroleague and the national leagues because the Euroleague can't survive on its own. It's the glittering roof not the foundation. The foundation are their national leagues and not just the top divisions but also the 2nd, 3rd division...
@斯蒂芬·约瓦尼奇
@斯蒂芬·约瓦尼奇 3 ай бұрын
Thats also in nba
@sfdko3291
@sfdko3291 2 ай бұрын
@@斯蒂芬·约瓦尼奇 right, but the NBA has something to counter this....the NBA draft lottery and trades. This can literally bring someone back from the brink. As such, it incentives tanking and building up a player for a short time.
@urosbanjesevic
@urosbanjesevic 3 ай бұрын
it's sad to hear an interview with the Euroleague ceo and figure out he didn't mention basketball a single time, while he said the word "market" 15 times in a row.
@NauarchosHere
@NauarchosHere 3 ай бұрын
Since the entire situation can be summarized as "Euroleague teams are not investing in their youth teams", Euroleague itself needs to establish either rules or a foundation for young players to emerge into the starting rosters. For example, mandate that a minimum of X players under the age of 21 must play a minimum of Y minutes each season. Or create a youth Euroleague championship (like UEFA has its youth league) where all Euroleague teams must play players under the age of 21. There clearly are ways around this, it's up to the people in charge to make the necessary changes to fix this issue.
@bobosmrade1950
@bobosmrade1950 3 ай бұрын
That is a very problematic rule. I was a U16 player when I started playing for the senior team in Croatia Second Division. The rule at the time stated that atleast one U18 player had to be on the court at all times for both teams. The rule led to alot of talented players taking it easy with their training because they were guaranteed playing time no matter what. Plus it lead to bad basketball (“Leave the kid to shoot and help” or “Always attack the kid on defense”). The rule was abolished in 2016 I belive, and even though Croatian basketball is ridiculously bad, disorganized, under financed and having less and less players and teams by the year, young players have to earn their playing time. I belive even the first division had the same rule, though it wasnt U18 but U20.
@fabulist4205
@fabulist4205 3 ай бұрын
​@@bobosmrade1950well said neighbor.
@betkas13
@betkas13 2 ай бұрын
it is not only the Euroleague teams who does not have place for young players. Tier 2-4 international clubs does not have place for young people as well. It is a cancer for our basketball, basketball clubs owners lives in some kind of delusion, if you have club who does not even have fans, no one attends your games at Thursday evening and you still waste insane amount of money for some players who has not future instead of letting young's to play..
@Makaronis99
@Makaronis99 3 ай бұрын
Its just student years, how is it end for Europe? They just go leave the family, and most of them will come back. There is no space for everyone in NBA, so they just gonna get better and come back, i dont see any problem with that. And the ageing is it really the problem? Euroleague is still TOP quality basketball, and many veterans who will finish career soon or later, dont worry its not the end.
@masterm155
@masterm155 3 ай бұрын
I'm not so sure. Does really half quality players from college or development clubs in Europe really have some great talent to save us.For exempl Wemby played in Asvel one or two seasons,and he left to Metropolitan 92 and increase his value.Similiar with Risacher.Topic was in Mega and after going to the Crvena zvezda his value dropped from top 3 picks to top 8 or even top 11 pick.Plus is there any club who is wiling to give a young prospect 1 milion plus dolars or euros? I think not and I hope basketball will do better marketing with some addition of the euro players who are in their 24-28 years and boost competition. I hope you are alright but I'm really scared beacous Bartomeu,Glikman and Paulius are not some great owners beacous vice president of NBA is Joe Dummars and some other players who are successful in business.
@RokasAndriuskevicius-zl6rd
@RokasAndriuskevicius-zl6rd 3 ай бұрын
G lygue is also raising their wages. And some young players that can't play in the NBA can stay in the G league, especially Americans that are also needed in Europe.
@Makaronis99
@Makaronis99 3 ай бұрын
@@RokasAndriuskevicius-zl6rd oh man… Ok, first of all thats already happening for years that most of USA players that cant get to nba staying to G instead of Europe. Second thing, Europe is not going downwards, its going UP too. Tv contracts and all things are changing, even withour that wages is raising in Europe too. And the main thing, there is players who play for money, and who play basketball, idk how to explain it more. But euroleague always been toughest and real basketball not show. And its rising up, not going down. So this is just cowshait all those talks. Money over basketball? Ok, go to America. But there always gonna be players that want to play in Euroleague, and those who will choose Basketball over money. And money difference isn’t that big, and wi get better for Euroleague, so everything gonna be alright, and dont worry be happy.
@Makaronis99
@Makaronis99 3 ай бұрын
@@masterm155 Paulius is the one i believe in from all of those. He can make it, he made Zalgiris great again, he can do it with Euroleague too.
@jecapeca
@jecapeca 3 ай бұрын
Most of them will come back. Those who don't make it in the NBA, because of lack of talent. That's what's waiting European clubs - the lack of talented youth.
@Anka777anka
@Anka777anka 3 ай бұрын
EL needs better marketing. Euro has the potential to compete with at least gleage and ncaa in short-mid term. Good marketing brings more broadcasting rights, more businessman buying euro clubs. Marketing for the masses and marketing for B2B could create a virtuous cycle.
@rtaparauskas
@rtaparauskas 3 ай бұрын
Young talents dont get any playing time in EL, so there is the problem if they will play and get paid in ncaa and later come back to El? Yes, domestic clubs lower then EL will have a bit lower quality
@Eppu_Paranormaali
@Eppu_Paranormaali 3 ай бұрын
All these examples of basketball growing globally and increasing opportunities (also) for European players to develop and make career as a player are inevitably increasing the talent pool as long as basketball appears as an appealing option for kids to play and invest their time in. In short term, there might be setbacks in recruitment, but I don't think European basketball can regress as a whole in a time when the player production is this good. The clubs, leagues, associations and less organised basketball communities just have to cherish the culture we have, because the opportunities are still huge and the club culture is still our biggest asset. Pretty much like how South American football is still strong, competitive and culturally unique even if Libertadores has been facing similar stagnation for decades when compared to club competitions of other continents.
@panicjova31210pozega
@panicjova31210pozega 3 ай бұрын
America is destroying Europe in all segments - from sports to economy. We look incompetent. Something must be done to protect the players and for them to see a future in playing basketball in Europe. Allowances to clubs for the departure of young players to America should be astronomical!
@demonofpurgatory5188
@demonofpurgatory5188 3 ай бұрын
Which economy is american destroying?
@panicjova31210pozega
@panicjova31210pozega 3 ай бұрын
@@demonofpurgatory5188 .....
@panicjova31210pozega
@panicjova31210pozega 3 ай бұрын
@@demonofpurgatory5188 Well, I already wrote to you... Germany primarily, and all others as well.
@demonofpurgatory5188
@demonofpurgatory5188 3 ай бұрын
@@panicjova31210pozega americas dollar is dying rn
@Omerkosar
@Omerkosar 3 ай бұрын
Yeah. Apple, Amazon, Instagram, KZbin, Twitter. Europeans consume american product. Europeans needs their own companies. Otherwise it is not looking good economically
@h.u.t.9677
@h.u.t.9677 3 ай бұрын
i agree mostly, some 20 years ago every major european team had some nba level players. remember d.wilkins, bob mc adoo, josh childress (no6 draft), roy tarpley etc while also most european talents stayed in europe. only a few like kukoc divac petrovic made a career in the usa. now the level has dropeed significantly (EL teams wait till all NBA contracts are closed and then buy the leftovers, and the thing is that these leftovers are so good compared to EL players that make actually a difference. and if NCAA start to pays then its game over. Also its true that all big names are now over 30. No young players and if one appears once in while the next year goes to the NBA. EL has real problems, due to poor management and lack of interest (only serbs, some greeks, and lithuanians watch). In big europeans countries noone is interested.
@babiskounadis3755
@babiskounadis3755 3 ай бұрын
Excellent video and thorough analysis! Well done! EL is indeed aging and the win mentality can destroy this championship. For example, my team Panathinaikos 100% succesful this year with EL and Greek title, has "destroyed" his best prospect, Lefteris Mantzoukas, who couldnt find even 5 minutes to play in EL
@greekveteran2715
@greekveteran2715 3 ай бұрын
Αυτό ίσχυε ανέκαθεν για όλες τις ομάδες που έκαναν Πρωταθλητισμό. Ο Μαντζούκας πρέπει να δωθεί δανεικός,όπως κάνουν πάντα σε τέτοιες περιπτώσεις, για να πάρει παιχνίδια.Αν δεν τον δώσουν, πιστεύω ότι αν τον πάρει χαμπάρι ο Αταμάν τι παικταράς είναι, θα τον βάζει στο Ελληνικό πρωτάθλημα έστω να πάρει παιχνίδια.
@vatoslocos1109
@vatoslocos1109 3 ай бұрын
Yes it is doomed because the game cannot attract funds the way it is. In euroleague the regulation is too old for the new fan base around the world. In the nba the players are above everything, in Europe we re having a fan base coming from football. 3” on defence in the paint must change and also bigger courts more open spaces. Euroleague must change also the final four competition to a 3 or 4 wins to get the title, the best wins
@chrismill85
@chrismill85 3 ай бұрын
it's not like every college basketballer will make this amounts of money, or at all. But whining that the EL will suffer, we put our needs and desires in front of those of the players. Maybe the EL should make better offers to young players instead of letting them rot either on the bench or some backwater club.
@ThatNBAguy123
@ThatNBAguy123 3 ай бұрын
I think there should be a Global Club Cup in basketball. 64 teams from over 30 countries, March Madness style. Would draw tons of profit and it would be held in one country. Absolute genius to me
@ThatNBAguy123
@ThatNBAguy123 3 ай бұрын
also the issue with the euroleague is the closed system. There should be a place in european comps for teams who play well domestically. Theres no incentive for most european teams to win if they know they wont make it to the Euroleague anyway. The Euroleague should suspend all licenses and be fully willing to let smaller clubs in if they win. If the big teams cant win it only motivates them to improve their team more.
@brakmaster
@brakmaster 3 ай бұрын
No what could happen is get the NBA champion, the Euroleague champion, the NBL champion and the JBL champion to play against each other and then name the winner champion of the world!
@mcfuckinanotheraccount808
@mcfuckinanotheraccount808 3 ай бұрын
@@brakmaster it's an interesting concept but what would the rules be? NBA or FIBA? It's completely different and you enter a discussion of what "real" basketball is?
@TsampoukasG
@TsampoukasG 3 ай бұрын
Why 3 French teams and Greece remains at 2 representatives? Who sets these rules?
@parsifal40
@parsifal40 3 ай бұрын
France has almost 7 times the population of Greece bro
@andrijapfc
@andrijapfc 3 ай бұрын
@@parsifal40 Yeah and Greece has 10 Euroleague championships and another 8 finals, while France has 1 champion (Limoges in 92-93) and not a single other finals appearance. 2 different Greek clubs have won titles and 3 different have appeared in finals, whereas France has just the one (Limoges). France may have 7 times the population but it's club basketball and basketball league is way less developed than Greece's. Greek clubs have won 19 European trophies, the majority (10) being top-tier, while French clubs have won 11, only 1 top-tier, 3 2nd-tier and the rest 3rd and 4th-tier. So the idea that some French team created yesterday should get preference over AEK or PAOK is indeed silly.
@DYMLikeABaws
@DYMLikeABaws 3 ай бұрын
There is no 3rd big team in Greece. The 2 representatives, Olympiakos and Panathinaikos, are miles ahead of the rest, in budget and success.
@andrijapfc
@andrijapfc 3 ай бұрын
@@DYMLikeABaws and how many "big teams" are there in France? PAOK would have higher attendance numbers than Lyon
@tsops22
@tsops22 3 ай бұрын
@@parsifal40But that’s exactly the point: Greek basketball fans are 10 times more than French fans for any of the teams mentioned; country size does not matter in this case.
@AlexandruAlex-yj2es
@AlexandruAlex-yj2es 3 ай бұрын
why not make euroleague same format as NBA ? I want to see a Berlin Wursts vs Paris Baguettes matchup
@dimitrioskarageorgos5996
@dimitrioskarageorgos5996 2 ай бұрын
That IS the format
@NereoSal
@NereoSal 3 ай бұрын
This is on the EL management. Always afraid to make clear choices and rules. Make it difficult for Ncaa to grab European players as they like. But no!We have a league that simply care about prestige until that abstract concept won't mean shit. I mean we don't even know how much a EL team truly spends! This is the last year I spent money to watch EL games.And I hope people will follow.
@St_just
@St_just 3 ай бұрын
You got the point...PAO received a milion euro as a Cjampion?!? What a joke...and teams below 15. spot on the table received 0 euro?!? Null, nothing😂😂😂 In Fiba CL you can make samo cash...EL is absurd- thers 11 clubs with secure businessmen/footbal clubs affi financing, they holding A licence and their goal is measuring who has a bigger... Mannagment is only seeking a candidates to buy wild cards and F4 tournaments...
@betkas13
@betkas13 2 ай бұрын
how many NCAA raised talents comes to Euroleague? What is the point to make youngs to stay here if clubs are not even allowing them to play?? Your ideas are short sighted here.
@mic_gen
@mic_gen 3 ай бұрын
legit concerns for Euro basketball as you state in the video, but as an American living in Asia and watching Euroleague, NBA, Asia leagues, etc. I feel the systems for development are so much more established in Europe at the moment. The next crop of players might look at NIL in the NCAA as an opportunity, but as been pointed out by people in the US less and less college players from the NCAA are league ready. The system and rule set of the NCAA are far from the NBA or of FIBA which has always been their weakness. Long story short going to the NCAA can give short term monetary gains, but might actually harm young player's overall trajectory if they are elite.
@panosg2686
@panosg2686 23 күн бұрын
'We won't pay the players more because it's dangerous to handle a 18 year old a lot of money. Trust me it's for your own good' is a hilarious excuse that not even my boss would utter
@strelov1520
@strelov1520 3 ай бұрын
Economy of EU is in big trouble, so I guess this trend will be more and more continuing to grow
@copet7
@copet7 3 ай бұрын
I think the NCAA might actually be good for europe. Young talent will leave yes but in average it will grow more than in euroleague exactly because they will have more playing time and either way almost no youngster actually plays at the moment. they will then come back at 23/24 and have played in duke or florida instead of some random third league in turkey
@kakiz1982
@kakiz1982 3 ай бұрын
Excellent content, well done gang!
@josephperez4602
@josephperez4602 3 ай бұрын
I appreciate the Euroleague, but now you guys are getting to know what MLS fans in the US are dealing with.🤦🏾‍♂️
@Yannis1980
@Yannis1980 3 ай бұрын
From my point of view you are posing a legitimate set of argues and scepticism regarding euroleague context and future. But as far as I can see, euroleague will expand in terms of prestige and geography, euroleague is escalating and so does european basket, fusing material from abroad, integrating without losing its identity. In our continent basket preserves its team-effort character, without spoiling any excessive personal talent. Finally, as you already mentioned in your video, in european basketball, as in any other renowned team sport, there is a major x factor; its fan base. Neither in the NBA nor anywhere else such a major factor exists and I believe will never appear. Team sports are its fans, without them the outcome is closer to ceremony rather than actual game. PAO fan!
@stan2kay
@stan2kay 3 ай бұрын
If competition keeps high in the EL it will always be the best NBA prep. Once playoffs come around, EL skills are required.
@Bryan-fb8dh
@Bryan-fb8dh 2 ай бұрын
The biggest thing is "Armature" rules dont apply for college anymore. A Euro kid can train play and get paid say from 14 to 18 then transfer to the NCAA. Thats nuts. Most highschool kids are lucky to have one couch with any college experience. Lucky. More Europeans will get college spots.
@stefmyh9099
@stefmyh9099 3 ай бұрын
European basketball must grow together and not differentiate itself into 4 different competitions. This development is ridiculous. FIBA and Euroleague must settle their dispute and a national championship must once again be linked to the right to start in the highest european Competition. For example, FIBA could link the country points for places in international competitions (World Cup, Olympics, etc.) with the slots in European club basketball. For example: Best European Country in the FIBA World Ranking = 4-5 Slots in the highest European Club Competition. We also need a functioning and healthy financial fair play. Sure, thats probably just stupid ideas. But any idea is better than an expansion to Dubai. ❤️🏀
@z0zef
@z0zef 3 ай бұрын
This is a double edge sword tbh. Young prospects could seek better development programs at NCAA and this would funnel Euroleague too, not only NBA (I doubt that anyone with no NBA future would pick G league over Europe). This mean that we are going to loose some young stars because of the easier process to be picked by NBA teams, but still this doesn't mean that Europe will left with no talented players, just more hidden or underrated talents. Just for the records there is a plethora of Greek players that started or drafted at NBA with limited or no minutes and thrive here, (Koufos, Fotsis, Kalathis, Papagiannis, Regias, Tsakalidis, Spanoulis, Printezis, and the list goes on with OG great like Galis, Fasoulas and Giannakis).
3 ай бұрын
The should build an ENBA - Euro NBA - select the 30 best European clubs, organize salary caps, drafts, NBA rules, etc. They could play against each other in a specific tournament, that would be fun.
@zaigrice2719
@zaigrice2719 3 ай бұрын
There is Euro league
@Kazbasketball
@Kazbasketball 3 ай бұрын
750K in NIL sounds crazy to me, whos paying that??? Can you do a separate NIL video? It's a bit confusing, to be honest...
@St_just
@St_just 3 ай бұрын
Great analysis...been speaking about this subject with my friends/basketball.adicts and the guys dont understand the menace for eurohoops that is approaching...so I send them this vid, thanks❤ I can add only this- the number of 2way NBA-G league contract player is also raising=20+ good players are staying in US... K league, China, Puerto Rico and Philipines are also good leagues for Americans...nice cash, little effort... Main reason for declining of EL is EL itself...They are incapable of making EL a profitable product, their top managment dont know/want/care to make EL a competition in which club can earn cash...If it crumbles, that completly normal...
@Kevinjimtheone
@Kevinjimtheone 2 ай бұрын
The only reason any player is picking the NBL over a Euroleague team is language or pay. Also, the NIL is indeed a bit threat, but it is also highlights a massive pain point of European development: younglings simply don't get enough time. Teams should play their youth, especially their promising native youth, as much as possible. Especially since they have their national league that they also have to play in. Furthermore, I wish Euroleague would have a rule of playing young players to force teams to invest more resources in them. We can't continue to be short-sighted and only follow short-term gains.
@lordjael
@lordjael 2 ай бұрын
This is an easy decision for rising talents like Lamelo or Alex Sarr to hit the NBL because the games actually prepare them for the NBA. Balls can't be knocked off of the rim like in Europe and you don't have to put the ball on the floor before you take a step. It makes sense they would elect to be where the game style is most suitable for where they are heading. ✅
@lyubenpetrov6430
@lyubenpetrov6430 3 ай бұрын
Euroleague should try to learn a thing or two from the nba. I never understood why our courts are smaller. Make them nba size. Give players more freedom to make plays, dunks, etc. That is why people watch basketball. Tradition will be the end of us here in Europe. If you want to attract new fans, then definitely some of the old ones will not be satisfied. But thats how it goes.
@sportscardsandthings
@sportscardsandthings 2 ай бұрын
Euroleague is a breath of fresh air for some of us american fans, tired of watching the NBA turn into a glorified 3 point contest.
@3llement
@3llement 3 ай бұрын
There are always unforseen factors that will make it all workout, though very differently than anticipated.
@Skyshadow1
@Skyshadow1 3 ай бұрын
I like how we pretend that having the more aged (experienced) players being at the top is somehow a catastrophe. It could very well mean that an athlete is no longer told that you either do everything until you are 30 cause after that your carreer is only going down. Science+medical advancements+ better way of life is obviously expanding a players lifespan which is excellent. It provides stability and room for growth to the teams, and is less dooming for young talent showing them experience matters and time is more on their side than it used to. I like it and i find it good for the sport.
@el0kadur
@el0kadur 2 ай бұрын
A change of strategy will correct the issue. Of course some of the NBA changes are meant to mitigate the rising concerns their game is boring, or not bringing enough fans, on top of that, they don't want any other league in the world to own the best available talent. The EL will make it, I'm sure of it.
@riccardoahonoukoun1930
@riccardoahonoukoun1930 3 ай бұрын
im agree with all! Also Mike james (eurolegue mvp) says that there aren't young players in the league, and he specified that after this era, so in 5 year or less, if the eurolegue and the domestic cup hasn't new dominant player... the european basket will die
@guillermofernandez529
@guillermofernandez529 3 ай бұрын
With Euroleague being a semi closed league, the relevance of each national championship has decreased significally. That's where youth talent has a better place to shine
@2ez4kitty
@2ez4kitty 3 ай бұрын
It doesn't even matter. With Euroleague's win now mentality, they don't even bother developing young talents. It's better if young talents go to NCAA, and if they won't get drafted in the NBA, they are bound to go to Europe anyway.
@lordjayvideos
@lordjayvideos 3 ай бұрын
As an Australian fan looking into European basketball I wouldn’t be pessimistic about its future prospects. It’s still the second strongest collection of leagues in the world behind the NBA. And it will still attract players and fans. It’s great for international basketball with the growth of leagues like the NBL in Australia & B-League in Japan. And it spurs competition worldwide for talent which will ultimately spur the further growth & development of players from grassroots to elite levels.
@leaomarinho5023
@leaomarinho5023 3 ай бұрын
I guess EuroLeague will go through it's south american football arc.
@kambge
@kambge 3 ай бұрын
Some teams who do not challenge for the title develop players. Everybody is saying Berlin is a bad club but they developed two local prospects the Warner’s brothers who play at very high level now. Also olympiakos who has win now mentality but also a low budget develops a lot of young players, papanikolaou was developed from young. Panathinaikos last season played a lot of young players when they were losing like kalaitzakis, kostas ante and papagiannis. So it is possible but difficult to win the title with youth
@rinza9760
@rinza9760 3 ай бұрын
they will get the bag and go back to europe if they dont get drafted, what afterwards? some of them wont even adapt to pro ball cuz most of them dont have the experience playing with older guys
@Nazihhallouda-c8v
@Nazihhallouda-c8v 3 ай бұрын
I think euroleague teams should have more local players to engage the fans and the community. And with this limitation there will be more opportunities for young players and the win now mentality will loosen a bit
@JarradSpring89
@JarradSpring89 2 ай бұрын
I think euro league needs to keep selling the quality of the actual basketball. I like the nba but I’m so tired of all the stoppages, ad breaks, the 2.5 hour endurance event to watch an nba game that should take no longer than 60 mins, homogeneous strategies, over reliance on ISO plays, boring strategies employed by coaches that just end up with a crazy athletic play or a moving screen with 5 travels into a drive and kick for a 3pt play. Euroleague seems to correct almost all of these flaws in the nba, as well as having genuine fans who create atmosphere, not the DJ at the arena. I’m very keen to get into the Euroleague but kinda don’t know where to start and this video kinda discouraged me if the league is looking like it’s gonna take a huge hit and if all my fav players in the eventual team I choose to support will leave to go to college/nba. I think there is a growing discontent with the hysteria in nba media, the homogeneity in the league and their strategies and the pain of actually watching an nba game. I always look forward to the Olympics because the game is so much more beautiful but the competition is so lopsided. I just wish we could have great competition with international/euroleague rules and atmosphere 🙏 and I think I’m not alone in this desire
@EdgarGarciaBlackRhythmbeatbox
@EdgarGarciaBlackRhythmbeatbox 2 ай бұрын
There's a couple of things in this video that are not correct. 1. NIL is only for domestic(meaning USA Players). So that means that international College players actually don't make money off of NIL. At least not yet. 2. Players have been getting paid for NIL since 2021, what's at stake in the courts in the US right now is whether or not player can get paid DIRECTLY by the schools. And thats not a done deal either because it still hasn't been approved in the courts. Blessings!
@CrazyMadafaka96
@CrazyMadafaka96 3 ай бұрын
I agree with most of your points but you didn't factor in the passion for a club, not only from the fans, but from the domestic players as well. Money is surely important, but it's still a big decision to move overseas, for players that aren't considered young talents at least. And something that euroleague should implement is a play-in tournament between some of the bottom teams of euroleague and some of the top team of eurocup, so each country can earn more spots and keep the competition more live than ever.
@jadalhajj4533
@jadalhajj4533 3 ай бұрын
The B-League champ was beaten by 20+ by the Lebanese League champ in the BCL Asia semis.
@nervewracking4971
@nervewracking4971 3 ай бұрын
This is funny. Do you really think the BCL Asia semis is really important? Maybe if you're a Lebanese league fan.
@tainanking
@tainanking 3 ай бұрын
Japan beat Finland in the last World Cup. What did Lebanon do?
@gabepizza
@gabepizza 3 ай бұрын
@@tainanking they beat the Ivory Coast
@hayabusa6943
@hayabusa6943 2 ай бұрын
B League have 38 teams so it's difficult to hoard good players. Hiroshima doesn't have a single national player while the Lebanese team have arakji and others national players. B League have different champions every year cuz hoarding talents is impossible.
@tainanking
@tainanking 2 ай бұрын
@@hayabusa6943 I wonder where this influx of money is because the popularity for basketball isn’t there. In Taiwan 3 leagues sprung up during covid but each league has 10 teams of less and before then all they had was one league that was only considered semi-pro
@hypatiatv421
@hypatiatv421 2 ай бұрын
Comrade. Main problem here is that will NBA and NCAA destroy-degrade quality of european players. Young european players shows it superiority and dominance over college US players during past 10 years. NBA wants to stop that trend. The easiest way for that is to bring the best european talents to the US during their very young age and make of them US mentalllity and US basketball knowledge players. It will bring on top again strainght and athleticism and turn down brain. I am watched a lot of videos where NBA analyst saying that NBA loosing audience, NBA loosing number of views per game, loosing TV share against other sports in US: NFL, Hockey, Soccer,... Their explanation for that is domination of europan palyers in NBA, domination of european style of play against US style, based on athleticism, atractivines, speed,... The most of european players are smarter then US players but they play slow unatractive basketball. NBA wants to use their talent and basketball IQ and make of them US NBA players. Sorry because of awful English.
@tptp3143
@tptp3143 3 ай бұрын
Greek fan here, In greece we have regulations that limit the number of foreign players in a club. This means that all teams are forced to have greek players or at least players with greek heritage and some of them are pretty young. HOWEVER these players especially in the big clubs like oly and pao consistently fail to perform, their counterparts on smaller clubs play much better than them. Why is that? Does it happen on other countries as well? Is it the pressure from the win now mentality? For example zougris from peristeri although short for a center is much better than tanoulis from oly...
@thetalker.7304
@thetalker.7304 3 ай бұрын
Sweden we have that to 2 American 1 European
@Svendrys
@Svendrys 3 ай бұрын
Glad to see that the boy with the striped pajamas doing well 🤗🥲
@LucianoCantabruel
@LucianoCantabruel 3 ай бұрын
If there aren’t players younger than 25, then what’s the complaining about young players going away. Only few of those in NCAA will pass the draft stage. The rest can eventually be hired in euroligue, and if they push good money to entice the players, euro teams could have many of these players before 25 years old.
@GustavoSilva-ny8jc
@GustavoSilva-ny8jc 2 ай бұрын
1:35 But i think to grow more as a player and reach new heights later is better to keep in a pro league. Usa has more to win with this than them.
@liniokas
@liniokas 3 ай бұрын
Just a reflection of societal-economical changes in the world. Europe itself got and is still getting older and smaller compared to the rest of the world. In terms of economy other regions are catching up.
@jairlevy
@jairlevy 3 ай бұрын
Is hard to find a way to milk the money into other teams that may have space to develop young talent.
@adrrda6091
@adrrda6091 3 ай бұрын
The Euroleague needs to drastically restrict the number of players from outside the countries in the Euroleague. This would be similar to the Bosman rules, which existed long ago. This way, young European talent wouldn't have to compete with mature American players. Most fans love their local players.
@betkas13
@betkas13 2 ай бұрын
but you will watch bricks playing basketball :) like in China, locals looks like bots who does not even be on the pitch.
@Deadshot1956
@Deadshot1956 3 ай бұрын
Me as a nbl fan but I also love the euro league but man if the nbl got bigger than the euro league it’s my dream
@shadow8492
@shadow8492 3 ай бұрын
Simple solution : Give the players more money..
@benjaminzollitsch2408
@benjaminzollitsch2408 3 ай бұрын
Maybe Alba´s way is not so bad afterall. They are one of the few teams who develop young players and making actual money in the end.
@jaddjhenyx6557
@jaddjhenyx6557 3 ай бұрын
Make it "Eurasia league" merging bleague into euroleage + the opportunity to incorporate middle east into the mix.
@matthewdeheus3124
@matthewdeheus3124 3 ай бұрын
I've felt for a long time that European Basketball and the NBA should come to an agreement, whether it is an acquisition or a merger. Champs from the NBA and Europe would play off for a Championship. It's a way easier thing to implement than placing NBA teams abroad. It might take a few years for Euro club to win the Final, but I bet that happens quicker than people think.
@gabepizza
@gabepizza 3 ай бұрын
Too many games. The NBA season is already 82 games then another 16-28 in the playoffs. Then almost every summer is national teams (Olympics, World Cup, Eurobasket).The Finals just ended and we only have 2 weeks until the Olympic qualifying tournament, and that's with the finals only going 5 games. When would this "world championship" take place? We have those exhibition games, like the McDonald's Championship, between 1987-1999
@matthewdeheus3124
@matthewdeheus3124 3 ай бұрын
@@gabepizza None of those things would be as powerful as a successful, NBA led championship. Even 82 games might go out the window. The economics of this are pretty easy to see.
@Yinon776
@Yinon776 3 ай бұрын
Euroleague has great basketball and crowds, but it doesn't have the explosive marketing power that American sports do (or European football, for that matter). These days even the WNBA is possibly becoming more popular than the Euroleague, because of the explosive marketing power of Caitlin Clark. I guess that's the advantage of a superstar-focused sports culture - it translates to finacial success, and therefore to more stability and a more certain future.
@thatdudefromthatvapeshop
@thatdudefromthatvapeshop 3 ай бұрын
while i can see top prospects going to ncaa for the money ( lol basketball students gettin paid while the normal us students go into cripling debt just to study) , euro basketball will never die , we have the passion that united states dont have , watched lkl final game , and the other day nba finals the atmosphere is like light and day we have it better . I think the level of overall basketball will improve but nba is not for everyone , and kids after college will eather go to the g league (kuz rarely a top tier tallent stays in ncaa for longer than 2 years) , plan b is euroleague or any other league debending on the offers , plan c they fell off and the money they got from ncaa broke a few screws loose (it is a possibily , remember liangelio ball and china situation , you dont have to be smart to play basketball in collage) While yes developing young players in top euroleague teams is a problem with them not gettin enough playing time and experience , the mid and lower teams could do that and develop they're players nicely , sure they wont stay for long , but the team will get more exposure bringin team some money from endorsments . Overall opion it will impact where young players will go to develop their game , but only strong and detirment will survive , the rest will really have to stay humble and take classes on how to not be stupid with all that money they will be getting. And EuroBall will never die , and top stars that do go to nba wont mean they will be a good fit (too much to name but sasha vezenkov is a recent example) and eventually come back to europe
@TORVSTV
@TORVSTV 3 ай бұрын
Euro basketball will never die bcoz they are simple players not to hype like in US and theres a lot of players in europe D1 and D2. #bounce400
@Tveurogaming
@Tveurogaming 3 ай бұрын
Actually its end of nba the last years...
@thetalker.7304
@thetalker.7304 3 ай бұрын
You can only use 2 American player and 1 from European in Swedish basketball. More is against the rules in Swedish basketball
@thomaspinta9425
@thomaspinta9425 Ай бұрын
What about the NBA Europe rumors?
@Bouzoukistudent
@Bouzoukistudent 3 ай бұрын
i would preferred if there were a euroleague and the same teams participate on the year , they had a second team with their youths from their academies . Maybe from 16 years of age until 19 - 20 . and only kids from the country of the team .Spain ? Only kid from Spain in their academies . Italy ? only kids from Italy . We fans will love it and support it . But also they will give an extra incentive to the teams to invest more in local youth . That will also evolve the basket , their skills , experiences , they will gain more battle time. And being battled in such level ? they will be ready for the big teams when they grow up . That way you have an extra product you can capitalize , but also setting the foundations all those players every country produces actually getting their chances and play and not discarded or stay on the bench , or given loan to a smaller league until they make a name for them selfs or the team have no money to buy good players and they call them back .
@youngmaddogg5230
@youngmaddogg5230 3 ай бұрын
One MAJOR flaw with your video, international players do not qualify for NIL……
@andriyyakubenko7429
@andriyyakubenko7429 3 ай бұрын
Bs , everyone understand that playing against big man is way important than playing against boys,moreover ,when you playing in Turkey or Greece - it's improve youre psychology on another level ,because of fan pressure at every away arena. Every smart player understand that.
@dtikvxcdgjbv7975
@dtikvxcdgjbv7975 3 ай бұрын
Expensive financial venture in USA. Will thathold for long? Too ambitious.
@p4olo537
@p4olo537 2 ай бұрын
For me there's no need for a young European player to go to NCAA playing against other players who've the same age, it's much better for them to play in Europe against older players.
@keremclsr
@keremclsr 2 ай бұрын
Euroleague shouldn't try to be like NBA, it should try to be like football's Champions League, if want to success.
@danteessa3062
@danteessa3062 3 ай бұрын
5:12 Las Vegas 100% confirmed, Mexico City fight a spot to be a part o NBA
@mynamedenis
@mynamedenis 3 ай бұрын
My understanding of NIL was abit different. It allows for college players to sign contracts with brands like Nike or Pepsi and receive commercial revenue from such deals. From Jakucionis example it sounds more like contract with university, but not the brand. Can someone explain how it works?
@ivanverunica2435
@ivanverunica2435 3 ай бұрын
It's not a bad video, but 18-22 year olds don't get minutes in the Euroleague anyway since the league is too competitive. If they can get paid in the NCAA, become better players, and then return four years later (since most won't make it to the NBA) - it's a better situation for the Euroleague than having young players sitting on the bench and rotting away. And of course there is the win-now mentality in the Euroleague: it's the apex European club competition and clubs put down serious money to be a part of it. It's not a development league. As long as the clubs can keep up this level of budgetary standards, I see no reason for concern. There will always be good, seasoned, basketball-savvy players on the rosters.
@kmj1459
@kmj1459 3 ай бұрын
You are definitely making a point but even though with all that talent in the nba the euroleague is stii much more fun to watch
@vlad4you
@vlad4you 3 ай бұрын
I dont know man. I see more underated (in the NBA) talent leaking into the EU rather than top-tier level europeans leaving for the US. I mean, the NBA is killing the euroleague in a way that a level player in the NBA will leave for europe due to many factors ( ego, play time, legal issues ) and become a 35-minute-double-double beast, which leads to some dude getting 2minutes of playing time instead of 7. My honest opinion is that the US is producing many more athletes than the rest of the world, which leads to NBAish level talents flooding the rest of the world (primary EU). Which in turn impacts the growth of local talent. Do not forget that EU players that left for NBA, are LEGENDS. On the other hand players that came to Europe, are just good (you know, in the average case)
@clockworkfrustration
@clockworkfrustration 3 ай бұрын
You are catastrophizing indeed. I mean, sure the best prospects will always choose the NBA and maybe a few more draftable but not quite lottery-worthy players might move to NCAA, but I think that there is plenty of talent remaining in Europe and most importantly, what makes European players great is not just the talent itself, but, also, the high stakes' experience in title contention and that winning mentality which you exclusively feature as a negative. I think we'll be fine.
@gehtdichnichtsan2477
@gehtdichnichtsan2477 3 ай бұрын
Bro watch the crack Baby basketball episode from South Park ! They explain why it’s wrong not to pay the players in college…
@svarozjov
@svarozjov 2 ай бұрын
You are catastrophizing, and a lot :) The problem with NBA is that it is still "closed system". What ever grumps about to many international players in NBA are, the fact is that it is still hard to enter NBA and that it can do only the best of the best, and that even of those that enter only several get the respect they deserve. And it will be even more "closed system", especially at coledge level, where you have traditions, where who and where your parents went to coledge matters more than anything esle, etc. There will be for sure increase in talents going early into USA, but I don't think it will be significant increse at all, because that "big money" would mostly go to home young talents, athletic looking Afroamericans that can be comercialized in market early, while foreigners would not have such generous offers, nothing that Barcelona or Real Madrid could not top up if needed... And there is still that moment where internationals in NBA are not being given minutes, and that will be the big no-no for many to venture there, at least until they win everything in Europe, like Vasilije MIcić, for example, and again, he went to NBA with guaranted minutes to play, and they tricked him, so if he was not transphered from Thunder to Hornets, he would return to Europe to play for several millions less, but to play. Same treatment, if not even worse, will be on coledge level, where it is not important to put the best talent on the court, but the most sounding name, so the fun base can have recognizible reason to cheer and buy tickets... And for Aisan and Oceanian leagues, I will ask you just one question: Do you remember who Miroslav Raduljica is? We called him once upon a time The Gods Hand. Then he went to China league in 2017. Do you know where is he now? At Maroussi -- google it... Once NBA player and Euroleague legend called The Gods Hand, and in that time one of my favourite players, literary diminished as player playing with small Chineses in no quallity leaugue... Now ending in no name Greek team... He went to China for bigger money, and ended palying for no money. Today no seriouse player would allow himself that path, at least not in it's prime, because if you want to stay among the best, you must play among the best, so players are today aware that Asian leagues are one-way thickets, and that there is no easy, if any, return back to premier leagues once it is done... So it is good retirement plan, but total catastrophy for young talentet players that just started to seek development and affirmation... That prospect will not draw many talents, if any at all, at best it will maybe pull some scrambles that couldn't find their place in leagues that matters. So, the future is not that bleak, and you touched one very important reason why NBA can pay their players millions: it is not because there are best players in the world, but because they have much much higher ravenue return on the market. Bigger ravenue, more money for player's contracts. WNBA has that problem, they want the same payment as in NBA, but there is simply no ravenue return for such contracts. So Euroleague needs to find a way to increse their ravenue on the market if they want to parry NBA, it is simple formula, but still not the formula for talents, just for player sallaries and eventual atraction of established players. Take for example Serbian or Lithuanian national basketball leagues -- they play for peanuts (and not today but for last 30-40 years) in comparison to Spain ABC (not even trying to compare it to NBA money...), but still have steady production of great quallity players through the year, and even the greatest world players. Jokić didn't went to american coledge, nor did Sabonis... Nor did Aleksa Avramović, developed as player in small Serbian town Čačak where they pay their players in products, because they literary don't have any money (I am caricaturizing a little, but KK Čačak 94 literary survives from year to year only thanks to volunteering efforts of variouse people), and then he came out of nowhere and made a fool of SGA that this year was top 3 candidates for MVP in the richest league n Earth... And would amerrican unicersity and coledge scouts dig up Aleksa Acramaović in his teen years in Čačak 94? Dream on, they literary don't know who is he even now, when he is fully developed player (but I have feeling they will learn first game on Olympics, the harder way :)
@acctsys
@acctsys 3 ай бұрын
If the EU league won't pay, that's its problem, not the players, and not the NBA.
@syrup-man6704
@syrup-man6704 3 ай бұрын
Euroleague needs more money.
@yorgis13
@yorgis13 3 ай бұрын
My friend It’s not only Lithuanian players in basketball….
@Babiniotakis
@Babiniotakis 3 ай бұрын
hm one thing no this can't happen us first of all we have seen thousands of times tons of young insanely skilled european athletes cant succed in america and players in general even if they go to ncaa 75 present of them will be back and have a succesful career in the euroleauge
@betkas13
@betkas13 2 ай бұрын
But we chose this, we created a win-now fairy tale, every year an insane amount of money is lost to win now, and for what? In USA they have long-lasting support traditions, fans attend and watch NCAA NBA games and generate those insane revenues. They worked consistently for it for many years, while our basketball developers did who knows what in meantime..
@isimsoyad4474
@isimsoyad4474 3 ай бұрын
even before NIL, players like Emanuel Mudiay who wanted to make some cash while waiting for the NBA draft eligibility chose to play in China instead of Europe after high school graduation. Same goes for Alex Sarr. I mean, Alex Sarr? Why on earth would a french player play in the Australian League for West Bumblefuck Wildcats? Is the NBL for sure more competitive than the French League or the Euroleague? Do NBA scouts pay more attention to the NBL or China than the Euroleague? Or are the Euroleague teams making it prohibitively difficult for young and talented players to enter the NBA draft and leave the team. in numerical terms, it's very easy to position the Euroleague as an alternative to college. Euroleague viewership ratings are on par with the NCAA and light years ahead of the NBL and CBL. If the Euroleague could force the participating teams to stop making it prohibitively difficult for players to leave for NBA, we would see top tier young talent that would normally play in the NCAA Men's Division 1 playing instead for Barcelona or Real Madrid. I mean, "We pay you 3 million dollars for one year, you get to tour around Europe, you train, you play basketball, you'll get seen by hundreds of NBA scouts on a weekly basis where they'll get to evaluate your skills against grown men that are professional basketball players instead of college kids, you don't have to sacrifice the NIL money anyway and we'll completely support your one and done aspirations" is a very good offer. I can see 10 high school grads who would be lottery picks in the NBA draft taking up this offer every year. If Euroleague manages to position itself as a college alternative for top tier NBA draft prospects, we might even see a surge in Euroleague's viewership ratings.
@BasketNews_com
@BasketNews_com 3 ай бұрын
And then the reality of the EuroLeague hits, where clubs are investing money with almost no return and thus expect to win now instead of developing talent
@isimsoyad4474
@isimsoyad4474 3 ай бұрын
@@BasketNews_com that doesn't matter at all. Division 1 colleges are no charity organizations either, they are also in a perpetual win now mode. That's why, young and talented players who otherwise would go one and done in the NCAA can still contribute in the win now environment of the Euroleague.
@demonofpurgatory5188
@demonofpurgatory5188 3 ай бұрын
Euroleague should focus on chinese viewership an its own european viewership
@youcantalwaysgetwhatyouwan6687
@youcantalwaysgetwhatyouwan6687 3 ай бұрын
everytime Europe produced a top young basketball talent. it's obvious that he's seeking an NBA career
@john_DT
@john_DT 3 ай бұрын
Playing a sport to win! Outrageous....shame on you Europe!!!!
@thetalker.7304
@thetalker.7304 3 ай бұрын
Say that to Lakers they can’t even win 500% two last years they missed the playoffs in tournament.
@thetalker.7304
@thetalker.7304 3 ай бұрын
18 is nba lowest age you can play , Europe 16.
@viktorianas
@viktorianas 3 ай бұрын
European basketball was amazing in the 90s and early 2000s, now it's just a bunch of second tier NBA rejects competing for salaries.
@thetalker.7304
@thetalker.7304 3 ай бұрын
Barcelona has money, the owner of the club, owns the soccer team, and a field running team, a NBA team. Is only a NBA Team.
@thabiggestkilla
@thabiggestkilla 3 ай бұрын
but why would he spend that money on a sport that doesn't make money?
@Imjustbored2023
@Imjustbored2023 3 ай бұрын
Why would they spend money on a sport nobody cares about but few people in Europe and usa
@SimonDoer
@SimonDoer 3 ай бұрын
did I miss something? I thought it was against NCAA rules for colleges to pay for student athletes?
@Linksmakalnietis
@Linksmakalnietis 3 ай бұрын
NCAA deleted this rule.
@rafa_il
@rafa_il 3 ай бұрын
euroleague is aging because the last two mvps are 34 years old. terrible math. no causation or correlation my friend.
@przemeko
@przemeko 3 ай бұрын
Threat yes, deady threat - no way. US is getting talent without a large fan base - they will have to spend money on contracts and marketing for these players. Then they will return to Europe with a buildup fan base. Other leagues are no threat at all. See football - sport celebs went to Saudi Arabia... no body misses them. We already forgot about them
@thabiggestkilla
@thabiggestkilla 3 ай бұрын
football is biggest sport in the world you can't compare basketball to that
@ViktorMorawitz
@ViktorMorawitz 3 ай бұрын
I think its a little overreactive. The NIL will benefit maybe 10% of the European talent and they would go probably D1 anyway in majority of the cases. G League is trash and mostly Americans will occupy the best paid spots. Australia is not concern, Ball and Sarr were exemption not rule. Level of competition there is so much lower than in Europe as well as the salaries. Japan and China might be different story. They can attract the US talent that is not NBA material through money and exposure. Yet there is still many highly talented players playing around the world or leaving college, that will be attracted by playing in Euroleague. Also there is a lot of talent within the national leagues itself in countries like Spain, Italy, Greece, Germany. Euroleague teams just have to figure out how to more effectively develop talent while maintaining the win now mentality and reliance on experienced players (nothing wrong with that).
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