Basquiat Confronts the Legacy of Italian Masters

[@felicao16]

LOL would love to see JMB reaction How some dudes talking about his painting....

[@Lilc-hm2uv]

I think he would laugh. These guys are talking out of their asses.

[@alphabeta492]

He’d say , “gimme the money ...I need to cop “

[@4m4z1n-grace8]

Tbh I've always thought that Basquiat would DESPISE social media.

[@bodhimind108]

Came to the comments for this,and it's the first one that I saw. lol

[@louhawk559]

I enjoy basquiat myself. Truth is there are thousands of basquiats on the earth.

[@eaesteve]

The french accent legitimizes the arguments given.

[@Zaidemeit]

Yes!! The mo' White Supremacy notions there are, the better for the market!!!

[@081gianko]

😂

[@TMPreRaff]

...no matter how flimsy...

[@Consrignrant]

@Eduardo Albanell.......... But not the comments of the American?........ You imbecile.

[@gideonros2705]

😂😂😂😂

[@edwardandezra]

0:21 That statement is just incoherent hype

[@nelsonx5326]

Basquiat had training. I don't know what rules he's breaking, all of them probably, if there are any rules anymore. But you're right in a way, that statement was out of place in discussing this piece.

[@Lilc-hm2uv]

Hyperbole to up the price. They saying a lot by not saying anything at all.

[@monikaklawikowska3785]

exactly my thought... especially when I heard @5:06

[@markbebber2284]

I can talk bollocks for 5.36, can I have a job?

[@henrydemonfreid1985]

I'd literally rather watch 5.36 of any footage of Basquiat actually doing stuff.

[@birdpainter452]

only if you have an outrageous French accent :)

[@Consrignrant]

@markbebber............I'm sure you speak nothing but "bollocks"........ you imbecile.

[@markbebber2284]

@@Consrignrant Love and peace. Yes I talk bollocks day and night just like these two twats.

[@Consrignrant]

@@markbebber2284....... Lol..... Not much going on between your ears, is there.

[@johannes-josef]

Basquiat works are always a treat - I like how a lot of details were filmed in closeup.

[@TheRealDarrylStrawberry]

I feel like analyzing him goes against everything he stood for.

[@CephlonMayngrum]

Everything worth anything gets analyzed

[@colbycalabrese8417]

I don't think he was against analysis but against assumptions. His 1983 interview showed his aversion for assumptions being made about his art. As @daysjours said, he denied meaning. He only supported the claim that he was spontaneous. I think analysis gives the work the credit it deserves for his understanding of art history and the wide array of social, cultural, and economic problems he discusses and the breadth of inspiration he pulls from. I would agree though, the way these people analyze it is very academic and formal which Basquiat's attitude and lifestyle went against. They do a great analysis but there is a disconnect from the type of person Basquiat was.

[@sableann4255]

Yep...

[@daysjours]

I would heartily disagree. JMB was very cerebral. An artist more often than not lets the work speak to the viewer so that she can tease out the meaning rather than the artist dictating. Warhol and Flaubert -- great artists -- deny meaning. Nothing new. But if there is no analysis that means the work is all surface

[@colbycalabrese8417]

@@daysjours Agreed

[@waltevans4490]

It's nice to see folk art finally be appreciated for what it is, wild imaginations put on canvas or any other medium I remember in the 1980s when I lived in the woods of Alabama there was so many wonderful folk artists that went to the Art Fair Tuscaloosa Alabama and displayed their work very similar to this work displayed here

[@trout211]

The Basquiat just sold for 44,000,000 USD. Estimate: 35,000,000 - 50,000,000 USD.

[@menaseven9093]

Versus Medici is an awesome painting by Jean Michel Basquiat. I don't see the subtle beauty of contemporary painting until an art expert shows it and explained it to me. I am sad that J M Basquiat is not alive to enjoy his success.

[@Lolamola333]

Comparing old masters with basquiat is not fair at all ,, just speak about his work without trying to bring up the genius of renaissance artists

[@gbmbg114]

Well, I think we can fairly draw lineages throughout history. Chickens don’t look like dinosaurs, but their relationship and the significance of evolution - destroying, building, mutating - is certainly worth noting. I’m not even just saying it about Basquiat - I think all of the “modern” figures of art fit in the overall story. Doesn’t mean we have to connect with all of them. And it also doesn’t mean that genius always has to look the same..

[@camilouseche4846]

"Basquiat Confronts the Legacy of Italian Masters"... sure...

[@DJVMFVME]

He’s America’s greatest painter.🙏🏽 See more art with a powerful conscience: kzbin.info/www/bejne/amnKdoGCgdCpqK8

[@aldack]

haha

[@jameswarhol442]

Lololol !

[@havefunbesafe]

Keep in mind that Twombly was a major influence on JMB. Go check out Cy Twombly's work, particularly those pieces that reference Italian art and its Roman lineage.

[@nlbhaduri]

So many people are terrified of something new. (Read comments below). Thank you for explaining how Basquiat saw Florentine master works and was trying to show the importance of black history too. His works can be like a test to see what the beholder interprets from it and , in that conversation, one gets to know the beholder’s mind...how fascinating! A conversation with art!

[@MrB1923]

Yes, we are 'terrified' of the painting made with the skill of a child.

[@mdeboer563]

Nice we have to be fascinated from a unskilled BLMer before BLM without a skill apart from being pretentious that died from a overdose at age 27..... It's trash and I spit on it.

[@trout211]

Estimate: 35,000,000 - 50,000,000 USD Auction on May 12th 2021.

[@mdeboer563]

If I would see it at the trash I wouldn't bother picking it up, the price is pure branding by pretentious bobo's and galleries that want to make money.

[@outtathyme5679]

Do you try to place these important cultural works with museums?

[@yazzirchica1765]

Imagine all this man did was just paint random things he had in his mind 😭😭

[@fron645]

That's essentially what he did.

[@Juliana-Bub]

@@fron645 But he was still very aware of history and art history and made references in most of his art. These were the things on his mind. Even if these two scholars are going overboard in their analysis, what it boils down to is still more or less true.

[@daysjours]

Read some Freud. There is nothing ¨random¨ - your mind creates what my mind doesn´t. What you think and associate to has meaning, deep meaning. That is unique to you. Do not diminish your dreams and thoughts -- or JMB´s work - with such superficial and meaning-free thinking.

[@russhyn]

Respecting the rules??? art should not have any rules... it's a form of self expression, no limits and no boundaries!!!

[@claireabella1]

"everything he tried worked" so trueeee. he was a natural visionary, and REAL nyc

[@mdeboer563]

It's pretentious trash, pure branding. You or I make something similar and it's worth nothing, and trust me I know a lot about art.

[@Juliana-Bub]

@@mdeboer563 "Trust me I know a lot about art" sounds like you're really compensating for a lack of knowledge.

[@dorfmanjones]

Let me say something without any equivocation. If you differ, so be it. These men know nothing about art. They are hucksters, pure and simple. The only real question is whether they believe this absurd drivel or take viewers for imbeciles. They're job is to keep auction prices high. That is their function. This has nothing to do with anything genuine or even remotely believable. A pathetic display.

[@alphabeta492]

Vehicle for money laundering.

[@endytenorio806]

100% agree. They swear they’re so knowledgeable about art.

[@elan0054]

hype the value and get kickbacks.

[@curiousnomad]

I’ll take it. Send the invoice to my assistant.

[@etchan7377]

Nice

[@sccmoonwalker]

Basquiat! Top of the top 💪🏽

[@bngr_bngr]

These two guys could make good used car salesmen. This persons makes graffiti. He didnt learn anything from the masters of the Renaissance.

[@balthasarklossowskiderola6103]

Graffiti is a mark made on something without the permission of the owner. How is this painting anything like graffiti? Basquiat owned the canvas before he made marks on it (obviously). Yes, Basquiat made graffiti earlier on in his career, but soon enough he moved on to canvases.

[@bngr_bngr]

@@balthasarklossowskiderola6103 graffiti is graffiti. Much like Banksy’s graffiti.

[@balthasarklossowskiderola6103]

@@bngr_bngr how do you define “graffiti”? Banksy has done graffiti work, but he has also done non-graffiti work.

[@jone9055]

Graffiti art's involvement in the development of Basquiat's very unique style has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not he knew of Da Vinci. It is, in fact, very well documented that he spent countless hours studying and learning in art museums to prepare for his pieces. What the gentlemen in the video are trying to say is that, here, in this painting, it is evident that Basquiat has learned from and respects the foundation in art the masters have provided, while simultaneously rejecting the oppressive constraints their work creates in terms of what is "art" and what is "subject matter."

[@g.o.7282]

Graffiti is an Italian word that comes from grafite(mineral) and graffi=scratches .. Like scratching the wall. Basquiat and Banksy have nothing to do with that. They did street art.

[@WendyDaCanuck]

I’ll give Basquat credit for knowing a sucker when he saw one. Lol

[@petershim5900]

Critics can make or break an artist. Talk sells. Hype works. Anyone can justify any concept of art into meaningfulness. It's a world of what's it worth n give it meaning and we can sell it. It's all subjective isn't it? He hung with Warhol and the in-crowd... doesn't that tell you something?

[@thinknot462]

what does it tell you?

[@fron645]

These folks are working hard to add words and hey it sold high, so props to you guys on suits talking nonsense.

[@ethanstoecklin3022]

What about his influence of drugs

[@jerrystaana3891]

Basquait the king 👑 of vandalism

[@MauEcoVeg]

This dudes are funny! Sooo sarcastic and meta!

[@dianewhalen9721]

A bit of a stretch in their interpretation

[@caballosinnombre3981]

its a great painting period,- yet listening to this casual conversation about knowing the rules and breaking them and other bla bla is such a screech on the turntable. a load of condescending marketing overture for buyers with minds with the dimension of the point on a pencil. Still nice painting-

[@sableann4255]

They're just pompous assholes

[@AndwB]

I need to go wash my eyes

[@stewartmac9568]

Sotheby’s: Thanks.Hardly a comparison with beloved Historical first Leonardo da Vinci?No Thanks.Let me see a early Foundation year Drawing by Basquiat?Mac.2021.

[@pavololsavsky8188]

Recommend for all people. Drew and paint you not have to have a talent or art educations just do it. And we will see who will be famous. Do it , like many do it on Instagram. They're geniuses. And they really are.

[@emadintro7641]

Basquiats "work" is like the paintings of a two year old child. Not hard to see that, isn`t it? Are we so perverted and degenerated as a society to regard something like that as art?

[@richardfrancisburton6833]

My baby cousin could do better than Basqshit

[@ronthemogul]

Yet you all are here just to talk down. Go find something else to watch

[@MrB1923]

Yes.

[@nalbizo2]

I don’t the value in his art either.

[@indoora]

Every civilization has their art history, they should preface "art history" with "European" as that is the subject they are referring to.

[@indoora]

@@yuramazing From Jon Acuff's book, Finish. "Goals you refuse to chase don’t disappear-they become ghosts that haunt you. Do you know why strangers rage at each other online and are so quick to be angry and offended these days? Because their passion has no other outlet. When you refuse to deal in joy, you do not quit being emotional; you just funnel all that fury somewhere else. Many a troll was born from the heartache of a goal he dared not finish. Maybe a troll is just someone who lost to perfectionism so many times that he gave up on his own goals and decided to tear down someone else’s."

[@indoora]

@@yuramazing No, that is all you.

[@jameswarhol442]

When you're smoking weed all day and then decide to do a *speedball* (heroin/cocaine combo) and pick up the paint brushes.

[@gianlucavernizzi3071]

He was introduced by Andy Warhol to Carlo Catellani art collector and art merchant in Baggiovara -Modena-, not Mazzoli. Do better research before telling stories.

[@johannasalazar2013]

lol !this is hilarious to me. i dont know why.

[@TMPreRaff]

High class car salesmen.

[@johannasalazar2013]

it feels like and advertisement

[@CarlBowlby]

Both men describing the painting are equally knowledgable but I don’t know if it serves the purpose by having the two of them. My preference is with the French dude, but that’s just my subjectivity. However, with both of them, I don’t know if they got at the heart of this dynamic picture. I’m not quite convinced that they “explicated” the piece that it so richly deserves.

[@edswatercolours6268]

Utter bollocks... I bet they burst out laughing when the camera stops rolling 🤣

[@mdeboer563]

Imagine having showed this to Da Vinci and Michelangelo...... They would have laughed him straight out of Florence.

[@JOSEPHCHARLESCOLIN2024]

Genius

[@2024SLCLUBBERS]

Too bad he is not Alive to see the Genius get Bigger

[@ericmay7722]

Proof comparisons are odious

[@muzo7611]

Put a lemonade and crown

[@ai-man212]

An ordinary painting, even a "good" or a "great" painting, is static. It doesn't move. Masterpieces move. Your imagination takes over as you gaze. That's why Jean Michel Basquiat is better than Jackson Pollock. The story your imagination tells you while you're looking at it is better. More interesting. People don't talk about his technique. Color blocks of acrylic covered in paint-stick for detail. Incredible! Original! Gorgeous! Jean Michel was clearly a genius by so many metrics.

[@1111122234]

Jackson Pollock you could say invented FIRE!!!!! with his drip method. PERIOD!!!! What are you going to say next That Basquiat was better than Picasso because Picasso was short and Spanish to boot?

[@nalbizo2]

Genius at getting the art market to inflate the value of his art.

[@chaechae7447]

👍👍

[@pavololsavsky8188]

If you have any questions about the art like this just call me.The best artist is who do everything. Not just modern art, because he doesn't now how to drew realisticly, he just drew how he can. That's most of the people do the some , but only somebody of them can be famous.

[@kurtpedersen7863]

Tranquillity base hello placid flaccid basquiat

[@jaetok]

Haitian savant. 🇭🇹

[@PHlophe]

sakpase !

[@Juliana-Bub]

It's fine not to care for his art, but most who complain about Basquiat so passionately are part of the racial bias against Black artists that he was battling in the western art canon. Just because you don't understand where your bias comes from doesn't mean it's not there.

[@alternative7361]

A Sotheby;s sales pitch ... and not even a good one worthy of JMB.

[@sentmode]

need older people to talk about this painting, Not the head of vague critiques and bland art history lesson.

[@fritz4345]

Most overrated artist in the world.

[@FranciscoSantos-ss3uq]

Mas neste universos tudo vira , artes não é mesmo? 🔷🔷🔷🔷🔷🔷🔷🔷🔷🔷🔷🔷🔷❄🔷❄🔷❄🔷❄🔷❄🔷⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐

[@nalbizo2]

His art lacks nuance, control, depth. It’s graffiti posing as fine art.

[@pawan120989]

My family will not allow this to be hanged even in my toilet ....they will throw this MASTERPIECE straightaway...million dollars wasted

[@victoriousovernegativityin8686]

#MTVCalm 🎬

[@TheSeeka]

What absolute twaddle... I think the best description of JMB’s work I’ve ever seen was “Like the scribblings of a deranged twelve year old”..!

[@feinegrafik]

No, I disagree with this statement. His pictures are beautiful

[@2-bitsampler841]

@@feinegrafik I think both those views are true.

[@sableann4255]

He was a Heroin addict, so....

[@alexc.c.4025]

What rule? there is no rule in art unless you choose to follow one...Basquiat just painted, of course all artist are influenced by other artist. You dudes talk to much....an artist just creates, is about feelings deep tormented feelings not the mambo jambo you are babbling about....fakk and they pay you a lot of money to do so. what an insult to artist who struggle doing the real work

[@jimh4072]

Absolute rubbish.

[@Calebthecreator]

You are ignorant in your knowledge of art

[@unclered6006]

Video Includes virtue signaling.... because of course.

[@gideonros2705]

Give me Raphael over this any day.

[@alphabeta492]

Gimme Thomas Kincade.

[@gomezaddams4347]

I know many people think Basquiat was great, but I feel nothing when I look at his work. My opinion is that he was an overhyped hack. Give me de Kooning, Francis Bacon, or Diebenkorn any day.

[@nalbizo2]

I feel like he was playing a joke on the critics and the art market. Most of his pieces feel very flat, static and superficial to me.

[@Juliana-Bub]

Do you exclusively like white artists? What makes those three better than Basquiat?

[@matejzizanovic7959]

@@Juliana-Bub Why do people bring up race every time someone says theyre not a fan of JMB?

[@alexc.c.4025]

PS. If any one want this painting, I can do it for you much cheaper, I´m pretty good copying others painting since I don´t make shit doing my own..😁

[@Juliana-Bub]

Art forgery is illegal.

[@firouz4296]

Basquiat has so many haters! Look at the comments section.

[@sableann4255]

''bourjois liberals" George Carlin :)

[@martinhasson4942]

How terribly Evil!

[@martinhasson4942]

Lol.

[@081gianko]

This is quite forced.

[@mdeboer563]

Imagine having showed this to Da Vinci and Michelangelo.... they would have laughed him straight out of Florence.

[@Calebthecreator]

No they wouldn’t. They would be absolutely amazed that he did something different, something never seen before.

[@heinverwey7620]

These two men are the very reason why people are too afraid to give their opinions on art pieces. 5 minutes of waffling pretentious BS to legitimize their positions in the art world.

[@2H.i]

🤣

[@charlestaylor6279]

My first job at 16 years old was to help with a huge 12 foot high painting of "Captain Morgan's Rum Pirate figure " We had step ladders to go up and down while we worked on it. We squared off the "canvass" and got stuck in. I got paid One Pound ten shillings for my week's work. I had just come top of the class and the headmaster got me the job, without me even knowing what he was doing. I was suppose to be a trainee. It was a company that made signs and bill boards all over the UK. Next they put me with the glass blowers in the neon sign department and then I went into the drawing office. There we produced paintings of the signs for the customer to see so he could judge what the finished job would look like. I remember using a tiny spray gun to make the neon look like it was glowing in the dark. We used thick black paper. While I used the spray gun I had to pump the double action bellows to make the spray gun work. All good experience. That was in 1962 Why am I telling you all this ? Because I and a zillion other artists are able to produce excellent work. Not scribble. Jean the biscuit would have remained an unknown "artist" if he had lived in most other places. BUT he lived in New York and they've got more money, far more money than sense in New York. They make zillions every day in Wall Street. What do THEY produce ? They produce NOWT ! Nothing ! Zero. No they work in a big building called the Stock Exchange but really it's just a big casino The same goes for auctions. What do they produce ? Nowt ! Even though they produce nowt, they make a very hansom profit. But to do that you have to be able to contact a lot of people with your "sales pitch" And this is what you see here today. Two salesmen telling you that a sow's ear is a silk purse. You don't believe that because you're "uneducated" or "thick' No, to understand their "sales pitch" you must be wealthy. Very wealthy and therefore very smart and streetwise. So now onto the actual "painting" It's a picture of a man with a lot of scribble on it. There's no hidden message. There's no "WOW FACTOR" But they've said it's worth a lot of money. And they're experts. So it must be worth a lot of money. Actually the whole thing could be painted for about $1,000 or less. So let me know if you want a full size "tribute" and I'll sort it out for you [e-mail]

[@PHlophe]

Uncle Charlie, tell us more of those good stories from back in the day

[@elincognito2135]

As a New Yorker I thinks Soccer sucks and fish n chips are tasteless. That’s all I know about England!

[@charlestaylor6279]

@@elincognito2135 The last time I was in New York was 1966 when I worked as an engineer on the SS Devon. It was the first time I ever saw a coloured television set. It was like a huge piece of furniture. Oh, and like everyone else I went up the Empire State Building and watched the helicopters landing on the Panam Building I enjoyed the trip. We then went to Newport Newes where the US pilot ran our ship aground and bent the rudder. So we got towed around to Jacksonville and went into dry dock at two o'clock in the morning. We were next to all the "Liberty ships" being renovated so they could be sent to Vietnam. From there we went past Cuba, through the Panama Canal across the Pacific, where we were intercepted by a French naval frigate to warn us to change course, because the French were going to explode an atom bomb on Muaroa Atoll. From there onto to Auckland New Zealand and then stayed on the NZ coast for six weeks loading butter and chilled sheep. Then back to Dunkirk, Antwerp and then London. Home for Christmas. I used to earn 57 pounds a month. that's about $ 80 per month. Engine rooms are NOT healthy places, particularly when there's no air con. And of course all the pipework was covered in asbestos. But I'm still standing at 75. And of course I'm painting every day here in Ban Chang. I must say I've met a few guys here in Ban Chang who lived in New York and they're real characters. They don't mince their words just like many of us Brits. Kind regards - Chris in Thailand

[@elincognito2135]

@@charlestaylor6279 Thanks for the history lesson. But why do you not like about Jean-Michele’s paintings? I think he did some decent work? As a painter you should have some sort appreciation for a young masters work. I guess to each it’s on

[@charlestaylor6279]

@@elincognito2135 Cave men produced better work with far less materials. This guy's work is on a par with a seven year old. My own kids have produced better art. He ain't anything special. Where is the "Wow Factor" ...... not to be seen here. Have a look at the quality of the work produced by Norman Rockwell, Titian, Rubens, Michelangelo. I've already written that if he didn't live in New York then nobody would ever know about him. Even then it was his connection to the weirdo Andy Warhol that got him more attention. They've more money than sense in New York.

[@indoora]

I'm sorry but neither of these two are qualified to speak on the African American experience in art or everyday life.

[@Calebthecreator]

They aren’t really speaking for theirselves they are just speaking what the art speaks and basquiat does have that right

[@indoora]

@@Calebthecreator Hi, I was not referring to Basquiat because as you should know he is African American and therefore can speak to the "...African American experience in art or everyday life."

[@thenotoriousziz]

Literally just scribbles lmao

[@mdeboer563]

Really disgusts me how these bobo's turned praising pure fucking trash into an artform...... It's like complimented dog shit, the curvature reminds one of fibonacci, it's texture has so much depth of complexity which is reminiscent of a Rembrandt, and the aroma reminds you of a subway station in Brooklyn which evokes all the urban emotions, and all that combined shows the genius of it's creator. Only one man could have reacted to this work accordingly, may he rest in piece Risitas KEKW

[@Afr1canWarri0r]

this is just pure garbage. His paintings aren’t thoughtful , they are just scribbles. I mean, look at Caravaggio, he is very hard to understand.

[@irishrepub84]

lol. confronts the masters? confronts the masters and is KO'd cold unconscious embarrassingly, loses control of bodily functions, and soils/ dedicates on himself perhaps. in what parallel bizarro world is this scenario/ comparison even possible? its a humorless joke.

[@viv_uriarte]

Respecting and observing the rules, but not following them. Not entirely at least

[@cleoswedenborg4003]

Disgusting!

[@lindaheath784]

Yawn.

[@Zaidemeit]

I love Basquiat's work!! However, these two 'used car salesmen' exemplifies the basic problem with today's art market, as it is perceived as an unattainable end-product by the public, and a source for Big Money by the elite!!!

[@pavololsavsky8188]

Can you stoping about nothing? I understand art better than you.Right now billonpeoples drew like him.

[@raynelgomezpena2210]

Is this a joke?

[@just_jeb]

meh

[@art3876]

полный понос