Bass Singer FIRST-TIME REACTION & ANALYSIS - VoicePlay | HALO Theme (feat. Scott Porter)

[@Scott_Porter]

Bro, thank you so much for watching. Thank you for reacting to this one, I dug your takes on it all. You're the first reactor I have seen who noticed the Grunt voice for what it was. Getting to randomly perform that and the plasma grenade (along with Red Team/Blue Team) was possibly my favorite part of making this whole thing. Also....Thank you for giving credit to the memorial message at the end. It means a lot to know our brother's story is still being shared.

[@PeterBarber]

I'm truly honored that you took the time to listen and comment, and I'm so glad to hear you enjoyed my breakdown! Seriously, one of my favorite a cappella pieces all-time (which is saying a lot) -- much love to you, VoicePlay, and everyone involved.

[@samuelzuleger5134]

Fun bit of Halo lore, the Unggoy (aka, grunts), believe in reincarnation, and that "Not again" is a grunt believing he is a reincarnation of a grunt previously killed (allegedly by Master Chief). Always remember, Spartans never die, they are just missing in action. Keep a controller handy...I'm sure your brother is waiting to play co-op with you all again.

[@PeterBarber]

No exaggeration, this might be my favorite piece ever by VoicePlay, and among my favorite a cappella covers all-time 👀 I cannot get over the combo of firework vocals, video editing style, and the added creativity that deviates from the original to make it their own. Not to mention, this one kicked my right in the nostalgia nards (probably as hard as PTX's Hallelujah kicked me in the emotional nards). BRAVISSIMO!!!

[@galadballcrusher8182]

see because Scott was the original beatboxer ofthe band when Layne was baritone and when he left to pursue an acting career Layne stepped up to beatboxing now coming back for this tribute they had 2 beatboxers in band so red team - blue team was a beatdown battle

[@brooklenlee1]

Hey Peter thank you for giving my comment a heart! I noticed grammatical errors in my original comment so I edited it and lost the heart but I saw it and really appreciated it that was really sweet of you so thanks again and stay BEAUTIFULLY BASSIC!!! 🤩👌

[@Marcell0Bass]

11:56 Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart: “Silence is very important. The silence between the notes are as important as the notes themselves.”

[@wh15p]

...this!

[@maeco7]

And another great, similar quote from Claude Debussy: "Music is the silence between the notes."

[@krystofdayne]

@@maeco7 I went a bit of a rabbithole researching this quote, and apparently, it's only really Debussy that said this. It has apparently been misattributed to Mozart. To make it easy, I'll just paste this from WikiQuote (from its Claude Debussy page): *Music is the space between the notes.* - As quoted in _Turning Numbers into Knowledge: Mastering the Art of Problem Solving_ (2001) by Jonathan G. Koomey, p. 96; since at least 2010 similar statements are also sometimes attributed to Mozart, and a similar remark, apparently one of Ben Jonson, is quoted in "Notes to _Cynthia's Revels,_ in _The Works of Ben Jonson: With Notes Critical and Explanatory, and a Biographical Memoir_ (1875), edited by William Gifford, Vol. 2, in notes to p. 223, on p. 551: _Division,_ in music, is "the space between the notes of music, or the dividing of the tones." - Unsourced variants: - Music is the silence between the notes. - The music is not in the notes, but in the silence between. - The music is not in the notes, but in the silence between them.

[@Broomrider1492]

B0 in this. I'm a 67-year-old great-grandma gamer who has played this game on my PC. All my son's fault started me on a gaming journey in 2000. Scott use to be the beatboxer and a founding member of the group. Was so fun to watch you, Fan Boy, over this. Was a wonderful tribute to their friend.

[@TheBlueSascha]

Wowww I only wish I could be as cool as you at that point in my life!! :)

[@marshayoung9387]

Oh wow, I thought at first I was reading something I wrote. I too am a 67 year old great grandmother who is an avid video gamer. My soulmate & I would play from 6 pm till 6 am three times a week. We only played Need for speed 2, Tiger Woods golf , WW2 game & GTA. We always went off script when playing GTA & Need For Speed 2. Oh the fun us old folks had. Sadly I lost my soulmate 2 years ago & things aren't the same anymore .

[@marshayoung9387]

@@TheBlueSascha you can do it too. I also am a 67 year old great grandmother. My soulmate & I would get together three times a week & play from 6 pm till 6 am. We played WW2 , Tiger Woods golf, but the most fun we had was with GTA & Need For Speed 2. We always went off script with those two. Us old folks had a blast.

[@TheBlueSascha]

@@marshayoung9387 That sounds so awesome! I know I don't know you, or know much about you, but I honestly admire you =D I wish to do something great with my Art one day and leave my mark on the world. People like you inspire me to keep going! You're an awesome person!

[@marshayoung9387]

@@TheBlueSascha Your art is beautiful. I know kids of all ages would love your artwork of super heroes & villains alike. They would make great posters for their walls. Good luck in all your endeavors YOU CAN DO IT❤️

[@tracyz9155]

I enjoy your analysis. Geoff said it was his lowest note and he had to get up early to make it. Scott Porter was the original beatboxer when VoicePlay started under another name. Thanks

[@jacobatkinson3450]

At 7:34 Cesar actually went into an overtone note, which really shows how talented this group is.

[@samuelzuleger5134]

To answer the question, the "belting" by Cesar (starting at 5:52 in this reaction, 0:53 in the VoicePlay video) isn't actually words, but is part of the Halo: CE original sound track. I think (might have to check) it is part of the second track, called Truth and Reconciliation (after the third level of the game). If I remember correctly, the story behind it is that Marty O'Donnell, the original composer, wanted to add something extra to the track and had been up way too late for way too many days. In a spark of inspiration, he just started recording himself belting those sounds. They ultimately kept those sounds in as part of the background music. If you listen for it, you'll catch it. In VoicePlay's version, they highlight it.

[@PeterBarber]

Thanks for the info!

[@kathisea2605]

Half the fun of watching your videos is watching your expressions when you're getting into the music, so please never change that! This is your forum, your ship, and you are the captain. If you want to rewind things do it! It helps us understand the music better, and we thank you for it.

[@PeterBarber]

Aye, aye!

[@Pip8448]

Ah! Yeah! What they said.

[@chillneophite8863]

Caesar is a great addition to the group. This is an instant classic.

[@atenahalley]

Props to Layne for the arrangement and the editing of the video

[@The-Sneaky-Vampire]

While it might be meh to just watch people make facial reaction videos, we know your thing is analysis. So when all you can do is make speechless faces at what you're hearing, it's particularly awesome. I loved your unmitigated geek-out over this. Your excitement was both contagious and adorable.

[@ladygory]

^^agree with this 100%. This was such a treat 😂

[@sheryl-anncharron4790]

Voiceplay is literally the best acapella group out there!!! They are absolutely amazing!!!! Also...I was like...thank God he said something about the grunt voice!!! Best reaction video I've seen!!!

[@timgray3790]

The guy who wrote and was the singer said this was far better than his original

[@AkayukiSan]

Geoff reminds me of the low pipes of an organ.

[@Pip8448]

7:00 ish the "skat solo" is what the violins are doing in the original song. I remember it well.

[@candilunsford2878]

First, and how VoicePlay would want it, Scott watched a LOT of reactions the day this released and commented personally not just to them, but to some of the fans as well. It shows the true heart of this group I think. Secondly, I agree with everything you said about this one. It's truly amazing.

[@veronikatroll1739]

I've got no problem with VoicePlay month either. I love it! Thank you for the amazing videos :)

[@vickiroman189]

Couldn't get here fast enough! I had never heard this and am still blown away after about 59 views/listens. Never have to ask "Can we go back"? or apologize for doing so with VoicePlay. As always, I love your reactions because you know what you're talking about. Thank you!

[@alexwalker8440]

This is such an Epic Masterpiece! 🤯🔥💗. For some reason, it doesn't get the attention it deserves! Maybe it has to do with non-Halo players not appreciating it?? The arrangement, vocals, harmonies, video, editing, production, everything is freaking amazing!!! Scott was one of VP founding members, together with Geoff, Layne, Earl and Mykal. Scott was the beatboxer at the time. I believe he left around 2003 to pursue his acting career (kudos to Scott!). His message at the end is very touching!! Thanks for this analysis, Peter!! 💖

[@maeco7]

Yes, it breaks my heart a little bit that this one isn't getting enough attention! It's absolutely one of VoicePlay's best - such a beautiful interpretation. You can tell that it meant a lot to them.

[@Melisendre]

If I wasn't a voiceplay fan I never had watched this video because I never played HALO. This masterpiece defenetly deserves more attention. It's the same with Hoist the colors or the Oogie Boogie Song. I never watched Pirates of the Carabean or Nightmare before Christmas.

[@lkreinmiller-author]

Not a Halo player but I love this video! I also loved the red team blue team part as I used to be working in the same room when my son was watching red team blue team videos!

[@embran8486]

It is only released for 2 weeks now, it will gather more attention. It's up to us recomending it on gaming podcast channels. it might become THE most popular Voiceplay video after Oogie Boogie!

[@RealAngelOfMusic]

I'm not a gamer at all, never played Halo, never heard of it actually but I'm IN LOVE with this! anddd I started looking into playing halo and it looks really good!

[@davepeterschmidt5818]

This version of the Halo theme is just fan-freaking-tastic. Beung a Halo player myself it not only brings back so many great memories, but the tribute to their Halo buddy, and the absolute sonic tour de force of the music is an incredible combo.

[@mads_._]

This was the first video game sound track I distinctly remember, it was the only one that created such a lasting impact on my brain that I can still pick it instantly. And they did it so much justice. The nostalgia is so real

[@shaunatramutolo2983]

You are always so serious in your reactions. It was actully really fun to watch you just totally geek out. This was my favorite reaction that you have done.

[@mandyconway9692]

Love this one. I never played Halo but I still found this cover amazing. Voiceplay never disappoints. Love your reaction and analysis. 🥰

[@DiRay62]

As much as I love VoicePlay, I get so much more out of their pieces after hearing your analysis. Thank you.

[@sarawlindgreen3115]

I love the combination of you geeking out with pure joy in your face and then gathering yourself to do the analysis part ❤️

[@moniqueakar484]

Great reaction, you bring such a wealth of information on the structure and what each of the guys are doing. You might consider taking a look at "Just Sing" please be sure to turn on the captions. Voice Play plus lots and lots of past members and collaborators. Scott Porter is in it too. Scott was the original beatboxer, and Layne the baritone. When Scott left, Layne stepped in as beatboxer. Which puts a spin on the Red Team-Blue Team Scott and Layne do. Scott gets blown up after he starts beatboxing. There's a slight grin on Layne's face as he blows up the upstart who is beat boxing on his turf. Arrangement by Layne who also did the video editing.

[@christophermorin9036]

2:08 lol that head tilt man. That head tilt that says "Wait, Am I hearing this right? WHAT?"

[@shelby0210]

after seeing this video like 20 times i just realized cesar's stomp with the green nikes was mimicking the original xbox logo lmao

[@Bloodbound89]

YES it is in the original soundtrack aswell around 1 minute 5 secs in .. and he did a great job covering that part

[@brooklenlee1]

As a big fan of Voiceplay and a super nostalgic fan of halo this is my favorite reaction to their version of the music ❤ Not only because he really enjoyed it but he is the first reactor (that I've seen thus far) to call out the voice Scott does as the Grunt voice 👍😁👍

[@Scott_Porter]

That's what I just said! He's the only one that has caught it. People still miss Geoff's "Killing Spree" right after it.

[@brooklenlee1]

@@Scott_Porter Ugh yes!! Geoff's version of that voice is dead on for the multi-player narrator!

[@sebb8347]

I remember listening to this on the train and wondering if anybody saw me stank face at the B0.

[@artchic1984]

I absolutely LOVED this one. Shows so much talent with their abilities with sounds, I feel like this REALLY allows to put those effects directly on display when there are no words to distract u from listening to all the little pieces. Amazing as always

[@kingscrub3386]

Halo was huge for me and my childhood. Every chance I got I played it, gradually getting every game and still play to this day...roughly 20 years of playing. This one takes the cake in terms of best acapella I've ever heard. I loved it and I'm sorry for them and their loss however I'm happy knowing they have this game that they can still enjoy together.

[@janetdw]

I always learn something from you (although a lot goes over my head), but this is the first time I have you react with so much enjoyment. It really added to the experience!

[@lareaner]

As a bass singer and player myself, your insight and musicality is inspiring to listen to! You've got yourself a sub!

[@chanmax2]

Hello Peter, a little hello from France, I think the quote you were looking for about Mozart is " When you have just heard a piece of Mozart, the silence that follows is still his.". Keep up the good work, i really love your musical and professional singer and producer insights.👌

[@rayem3763]

It was so fun watching you react to this one.....you were like a kid opening the best gift ever on Christmas morning. I've listened to this one myself a few times and it's amazing every single time. Thanks for doing it.

[@kathymchugh689]

Can't believe I'm just seeing this first the first time... anyway... love seeing when you get shocked and have the "silly faces"!!!

[@heathervona7883]

Peter....Your's would have to be one of the best reactions to this piece of artistry I have seen yet and I have watched quite a few. I love how you analyze and react. I personally have never played the game, but now I want to.....Can't wait to find out what you were hinting about...

[@venus5019]

It's great you watched. Scott is one of the founding members. Yes he was the original beat boxer of the group. It shows in the 'red team/blue team' section, as that was him & Layne doing 'sounds'. In fact when Scott left, Layne had to learn to cover his spot beat boxing. Scott's main focus now is acting. He was in Friday Night Lights, The Good Wife, Hart of Dixie, Scorpion & Lucifer along with movies, episodic TV (Law & Order among others) & ironically has done voiceovers for multiple video games. He's sung with them on occasion over past few years, this is one of them.

[@logannigh1959]

Bass God Geoff demands that you summon the pit vipers

[@PeterBarber]

He really doesn't give me a choice

[@judithboulden3456]

I went and watched Friday Night Lights a month ago and enjoyed it. I don't watch TV, but binge watched it.

[@TheStinalee201120]

I love your passion for music ❤❤. I've learned a lot just listening to your reactions

[@davidcates2639]

Good lord that B0, in the beginning, murders me...great video as always!

[@shilohwoods4516]

Hahaha....enjoyed your true emotions while watching the video. Didnt know which to watch; you or voiceplay. Thanks for the analysis.

[@eriklind8489]

this is only my 2nd time listening to this, and I agree....It is an awesome production. i never played halo, or listened to the sound track, and I still enjoy this one. It is amazing how they were bouncing to and from each other, and the video enhanced it by visually showing that. have you had a pit viper show up that early before? Great reaction. Also, it is your reaction....you don't really need to ask us if you can roll it back ;)

[@suzannebastien2918]

The production of the video is very similar to the one from Pentatonix Dance of the Sugarplum Fairy.

[@mockingbird1944]

Yep, can't believe I haven't seen more people comment this!

[@DravenGal]

Glad you enjoyed this so much! It was fun watching you react to this. Oh, and it’s “Ellie (L-E),” not “E-lie.”

[@johnjacobsen619]

Since you experienced the premiere, it's Awesome that it still gets to you😖😖😮👍

[@thprofessional5070]

We love the breakdowns... but sir! We are here for reactions! We love to see people react involuntarily to our favorite parts to our favorite pieces. We know music moves you and that's a huge reason we come. Please consider doing your reactions on a first watch from here out. We want the quote stupid faces! We want the first reaction!!! Much respect and love brother!

[@gonzalodecata136]

100% agree, it would add a lot to the already awesome analisis/breakdown

[@JaviaMusic]

Yep, obviously not possible for most things but for newer songs such as this it’s Just seems pointless

[@christinadowdican3268]

Scott is also in Lucifer. Great song & a Great reaction😊❤️. Looking forward to your next reaction😊❤️

[@droid8472]

Only for a few episodes but yes

[@ilonadever8249]

Always love your reaction and analysis. Never a gamer, it's been interesting to see your reaction, it helps me understand that world. Voiceplay is my favorite, glad you are along for the ride!

[@js_musicmedia8981]

I agree with your assessment! This is my favorite of Layne's arrangement, and Hoist the Colors is my favorite of Geoff's. They're my two favorite VoicePlay covers

[@royj.mattice]

Thanks for this reaction/analysis Peter. My wife and I were talking and said that this song would be an excellent workout song!

[@kimberlycrisler6834]

Peter, I never would’ve enjoyed this video without your analysis. Thanks for helping me hear and see all that I would’ve otherwise missed!

[@PeterBarber]

Happy to help!!

[@risperdude]

Love your perspective on these. These guys are so amazing.

[@kathymchugh689]

Love ya stuff Peter!

[@Melisendre]

Thank your for your reaction. I really like your explanations. I'm looking forward to your Oogie Boogie reaction. It is also a masterpiece. And you defenetly should react to Monster Mash. It is so much fun. This is what I like Voiceplay/Geoff for.

[@buzuli]

I expect you have quite the backlog, and have done a lot of Voiceplay recently. But I love to see you dig into their rendition of Carry On Wayward Son. In my opinion, it is their best work to date.

[@elizabethwebster6285]

Awesome video! Thank you for the reaction! The song was awesome, but it was nice to see you enjoying it along with the analysis you gave, makes the video that much better! Awesome arrangement they did!

[@edminchau811]

OK, are we just not going to notice Peter just casually hitting G5 as if he was a tenor?

[@tiinanyrhinen6255]

I'm new to your channel and had to subscribe before I was through this video. You have lovely speaking voice and I really like everything in your reaction. I've been watching many VoicePlay reactions lately and it's nice to see different kind of reactions.

[@PeterBarber]

Thanks for subbing!!

[@cslapler007]

Thought you'd like this. I had the same reaction. Nostalgia and so much influence this music has to so many, and they did it justice to the utmost detail.

[@DayneTreader]

I saw your eyebrow raise at that second B0 sub, and you're right - he did do it the first time too

[@lkayh]

I love your reactions. I can’t believe I missed this one earlier.

[@Jhars39253]

13:25 OMG Peter I can’t wait😝😂

[@natebaker3672]

Love the reaction and video as always. Voiceplay month is my favorite month. Can't wait for your Oogie Boogie Song reaction.

[@TracyH13]

Best reaction I've seen, thanks for sharing

[@wesleystorks9374]

Not sure if it was intentional or not, but at 11:02 here, that little slide Geoff does sounds like the shields when they recover in the game too. The only difference is that the shield recover slides up the scale and Geoff is sliding down.

[@amanda13b12]

I'd love to see you do a reaction and analysis of PTX Dance of the Sugar plum Fairy, they have some similar video editing so that may be where the inspiration came from for VoicePlay. I don't think you caught it but briefly in this song Ceaser did some overtones sounds as well I believe in the middle around 7:30 he also did something that may also be more at about 11mins in.

[@nikkibanning176]

Yes, wondered if Peter noticed the overtones 😊

[@jackfishbock5102]

Geoff also did a brief B0 in High and Dry.

[@nikkibanning176]

This is a real treasure to add to their arsenal.

[@jmbmusic1]

13:13 There was already a professionally recorded B0 by Bobby in „My Boy“. Is that something you actually didn’t know about or did you just forgot about it?

[@PeterBarber]

I embarrassingly remembered that after I had recorded this video lol

[@keithhartley4223]

Am I the only one that gathered that the bass gang is putting out a song this month? Is this a dream?!?!?!?

[@Becky.TMM_devotee]

You’re not dreaming. It’s coming at the end of this morning.

[@ChrisHaar]

Everyone quotes Mozart and Debussy about the silence in music. Those are two of my favorites. But the one that always stuck with me was Miles Davis. He said "In music, silence is more important than sound."

[@deconnectent1264]

Best Reaction so far

[@venus5019]

Enjoying reaction. FYI: As well aware, this is a video game theme Martin O'Donnell is an American composer known for his work on video game developer Bungie's series, such as Myth, Oni, Halo, and Destiny. O'Donnell collaborated with his musical colleague Michael Salvatori for many of the scores; he has also directed voice talent and sound design for the Halo trilogy. Watching the VoicePlay video with that in mind, see how it's becoming more animated, popping in/out & morphing into each other. It's not exactly detailed as Halo but it's good editing. - It would help if you listened to the original theme to hear how close they come to it even integrating the other sequels nuances into the theme. kzbin.info/www/bejne/Zpu7hXV3fNtskLM --- After, re-listen with eyes closed. It's extremely close an a capella group can get. The central focus of the franchise builds on the experiences of Master Chief John-117, one of a group of super soldiers code-named Spartans, and his artificial intelligence (AI) companion, Cortana. The original trilogy centers on an interstellar war between humanity and an alliance of aliens known as The Covenant (hence red/blue teams). The Covenant, led by their religious leaders called the Prophets, worship an ancient civilization known as the Forerunners, who perished while defeating the parasitic Flood. Each sequel gets into more detail regarding the wars & alien beings. A few things: - Scott Porter I believe became Master Chief John-117. He has the build for it. Notice how he's centered a lot in this video and ends the video alone. [Understanding the CGI of the video game the sequels were animated using the CGI at the time, as each sequel came around, they became more advanced, smoother & realistic. - Scott does sing, as stated before & in other comments, he was the original beat boxer of the group not Layne (he's also one of founding members). One can hear Scott & Layne doing the blue/red teams section with their beat boxing sounds.

[@Seriphina]

Yeah. Ceasar KILLS it on this song.

[@samuelmncedisi1065]

Do you only react and analyse a cappella and more vocally centred music, or do you also delve into other music that are primarily instrumental like jazz fusion, etc? Cool analysis.

[@andyharris4661]

I bought a Xbox one and halo because of this song and the message after! I am connecting with all of my old buddies that used to bring TVs over and 50 foot cable to have a land party.

[@barbarabishop9362]

Never played Halo so the theme music is new to me, but it's still amazing. Some really excellent riffs and near-scats. Voiceplay is really fun to watch, almost always. But as a Pentatonix fan, I have to comment on the video, because it's startlingly similar to "Dance of the Sugar Plum Fairy" which they released in 2014. The exact same design, and several of the exact same elements. PTX won their second Grammy for it. I am uncertain how to take this similarity.

[@jimcoogan1529]

Scott was the groups original beatboxer 20 years ago. Layne took over when he left.

[@thatonedude9431]

no way this man just unironically said “three winters ago”

[@Jennymit21]

That made me chuckle too

[@PeterBarber]

Currently reading through A Song of Ice and Fire so occasionally I speak like a Stark 😂

[@marshayoung9387]

Oh yes, when the new guy ( Cesar ) does his high native chant was in the original but you hear it in the background in the original.

[@Fran413100]

Screw sleep...needed to watch your reaction to this one!!!

[@Naleanaftw]

I just want to say that your "dumb faces" are still really cute. I loved how you nerded out over this.

[@PeterBarber]

hehehe thank you ❤

[@s.vidhyardhsingh3881]

7:35 Hey did you hear the overtone here?

[@MTMOlli]

I'm so happy to have two big subs. My neighbors know now, i'm alive.

[@timgray3790]

Scott was the beat boxer in high school for voiceplay until he became an actor

[@d1specdrifter]

i was in over 35 episodes of friday night lights. was a fun tv show to be a part of.

[@PeterBarber]

That's so cool! Really loved that show

[@d1specdrifter]

@@PeterBarber i was in the Friday Night Lights movie, as well.

[@Jennymit21]

Cesar DeLaRosa is the "new" guy and he is a genuinely awesome and cool human. He also sings with EJ Cardona (from Voctave) in another band. (Hawkmoon...I think?)

[@Debs_Badger]

Hawkmoon Creative is an entertainment company. The groups Cesar and EJ are singing together in are Element and The Vybe. I think Hawkmoon represents them or something like that.

[@Jennymit21]

@@Debs_Badger thank you! My brain went blank entirely. You are correct!!

[@dorisg.3]

You have a very similar voice to the incredible Geoff, respect 👍👍👌Really masculine 😊💋 I thought the same as you did when I saw and heard that, fantastically good🙌🙌🙌🙌

[@robertelliott4108]

Scott was one of the original members of the group.

[@fovosprodromus5020]

I. Fricken. LOVE. the Halo 2 theme song. UGHH yes

[@craigmerryfull7704]

Mongolian throat singing. As a master of those beautiful resonating low notes you will apprecieate it. The hu is a good one.

[@Mike_1947]

Here’s a suggestion : Lonesome road - Tim Storms.

[@jacoby102]

Silence is very important. The silence between the notes are as important as the notes themselves- Mozart

[@fovosprodromus5020]

Can you make an entire cover of the Halo 2 theme song with just you? That would be the coolest thing EVER. I feel like you definitely have the skills to do it

[@toddreed882]

Check out Elizabeth Zharoff’s reaction to this with the original composer.

[@katrinfrank6114]

That quote of Mozart about the space between the notes: he said this in english in 2005 and in german in 2013. sadly he passed away in 1791. Also Beethoven of Debussy never said something like that. It is a myth 😮