Bathroom Renovation #4 - Stud Pre-wall

[@baileyellis5346]

I’m a trainee building control surveyor. Watching your videos is proving very helpful

[@colinwalker6042]

Roger Bisby a complete joy to watch and to learn.

[@stakkerhmnd]

This is excellent detailed advice! Really well explained. This Abacus gear is top notch!

[@johngaffney1671]

Roger, great to see a tradesman taking real pride in the work !

[@DavidMoralee]

Coming together nicely.

[@iangough7659]

Multitasking as a joiner as well to ensure a proper job installation. Love the videos as always and always learning from you and the channel. Will go for Abacus for the missus' new bathroom as impressed with the kit.

[@ThePhilandPam]

Love that Abacus system, I’ve never used one but after seeing this I can think of a couple of jobs it would have been perfect, brilliant thanks 👍

[@johnnyg4941]

Great work, Roger. I love that you go into such great detail and explain why you do stuff. And when you do it makes such perfect sense. Well done you! Thanks

[@jimjam1934]

Great vid Rog, thanks for uploading

[@hotchill11]

I've never seen such clean installation have you got a cleaner on site lol. Nice work from skill builder. I have a job come up for similar installation great video to see this system instalation

[@SkillBuilder]

The cameraman hates to see a mess. Get yourself a cameraman not a cleaner.

[@tibiashiggs5043]

Quality work glad someone likes making it easier for the other trades that come after you

[@hi-tech55]

Well done chippy Roger. Looking forward to the next video in the series. See you there.

[@karlconway358]

Always amazes how much you learn from these videos. A great builder/etc. Will be mentioning how good he is on my channel. Do videos myself but this Dude is the dogs. Love watching him very interesting and funny. Good work. Remember seeing him at the house building exhibition, Trafford media center

[@joeg7537]

Coming along nicely! You always do great work Roger, please to watch. Thinking of using one of these pre-wall solutions in my bathroom, only trouble is the basin is on a different wall to shower and WC, and don't want to lose the width on both walls.

[@benchippy8039]

More of these ‘start to finish’ series plz, there’s not enough British professional on site videos on KZbin. Plenty of diyers and joiners but not many on site

[@SkillBuilder]

Hi Ben It is really hard to do stuff on site and time consuming. We couldn't do it without the sponsors helping us pay the bills. If we get more sponsors we will do more.

[@troyboy4345]

I find threaded a rod system to tension the stud wall to prevent any movement, works well on an even old wall/surface. great job and nice video, keep up that positive attitude pal, we love it !

[@SkillBuilder]

That is a great idea. I will try that and maybe make a video.

[@starman7982]

What do you mean by that?

[@c8bbr]

Quality series of videos. I was going down the giberit route but now the abacus system is the obvious choice in the UK

[@2loco]

Fantastic job. I never expect any less from you mate. Looking forward to the rest of the series. Thanks for sharing.

[@DIMTips]

Always great advice.

[@MrZimmaframe]

14:03 For £118 each i think i'll stick to wood and cement board haha, works out a lot cheaper and i can make it to what ever size i like then.

[@tonyskilton5324]

Fantastic help Roger, as always, but the issue of plastic waste is one that would prevent me from purchasing anything I could not use unless I return it for someone else.

[@bscott77]

Loving this series, great work with quality gear

[@scottjohnson3226]

Thanks for another informative video! I wish we could purchase the Abacus Bathroom system ,here, in the United States. Looks like a wonderful setup!

[@DUNCK14]

Brilliant educational videos, thank you. At 8:45 - where can I buy the fitting plate? Can't find any on sale anywhere. Thanks.

[@x8dudtrackdaytoy]

This channel is brilliant, good work guys 👍

[@carguillo1]

Can't wait for the next one nice vid as always Roger all the best mate from your number 1 fan Kev

[@SkillBuilder]

Thanks Kev. We will meet up soon at Robin's new college in Horsham.

[@raymondmalone9721]

looking good, great series

[@ScottMProductions29]

Another great vid Roger, extremely informative as usual, out of curiosity how long do you envisage it will take to complete. Keep it up

[@SkillBuilder]

It was a couple of weeks work but I had to come and go a bit and filming slows it down. All that time in makeup every morning.

[@ScottMProductions29]

Skill Builder very good👍 thanks for replying.

[@lloyd1233]

Love watching you great job

[@ratchriat1716]

great work found the video very informative and useful.

[@heriothandyman3148]

Who did the plans for the bathroom layout, I can see Abacus bathrooms on the video drawings, but don’t see a planning service in their website?

[@scoobydo2]

Great work! Personally I would have moved the storage shelves forward to sit flush with boards.

[@SkillBuilder]

We did.

[@stuartcairnie9985]

great work and very interesting, from a joiner in Canada.

[@chrisdenzer]

Awesome video Roger! What's the minimal distance you could implement this kind of false wall in a bathroom? The bathroom I want to do it in has a window at one end which is going to look odd if there's no wall between the window and the wall to the side of it

[@SheikaSiera]

Wish we got to see the completed project aswell

[@paulpitt4098]

Great informative stuff. Can you install the floor standing toilet in the waste outlet of the pre wall? So we can actually use it whilst a family is at home you gotta pee somewhere! when work is in progress

[@SkillBuilder]

Yes there is no problem with hooking up a temporary one. As a plumber my heart sinks when I find the house has just one toilet.

[@ra63kam]

At around 14:15 a small LED lights are mentioned in the recessed units, what sort of LEDs are suitable?

[@alliedfroth]

Is that 3x2 or 4x2?

[@PillowTalkTherapy]

7:18 Not to be rude but you can buy a 90 degree drill bit

[@peterwalton1502]

Really enjoyed that. How much do you estimate this cost, with the studs and Abacus kit please Roger?

[@MsZoe85]

What’s the difference between the abacus panels and the green gyprock? Also if there’s a choice between thermalite and green gyprock which would you choose?

[@tonygard1424]

Ey up Roger. Excellent series, only we need to crack on. I started my bathroom at the first vid on 30th January and the wife is getting a bit narked as she’s still peeing in a bucket and strip washing at the kitchen sink! 😉

[@roberteduardtecsy2527]

good job sir:))

[@markhep]

nice work

[@Richard57072]

love your videos Roger. One question. I'm buying the Abacus stuff, but I need a level shower floor 1400 x 800, can I buy the 1500 and trim 100 off it? thanks

[@SkillBuilder]

Yes you can trim the former very easily

[@Richard57072]

@@SkillBuilder thanks, much appreciated

[@bestfriendpropertyservices7685]

Hi Roger Just a suggestion if you can I was just about to finish a bathroom today, during installing clips for the water pipe I drilled in to a radiator hole , which was Buried into the wall, unfortunately What metal detector do you suggest me? Thanks

[@SittingDucksBand]

@skillbuilder You can see the tiles on the wall about 500m behind the front of the stud work. Is there a reason not to take the room right back to the actual wall?

[@SkillBuilder]

The pre wall houses the soil pipe, w.c. cistern and waste pipes as well as all the supplies. If you had to box that lot in it would be a mess. You lose a bit of space (200mm) but the clean lines make the bathroom look bigger. It is a shift in thinking but once you have made it the results are well worth it.

[@magicmanalex]

What size timbers are you using for your stud work? I’m waiting to order my Abacus parts. Are they all one standard size or you using different size timbers for sole plate / noggins etc.

[@starman7982]

Did you ever get a reply?

[@dickyyy116]

Question for you - do you prefer Abacus Frames and cisterns or Geberit?:) GREAT VID!

[@SkillBuilder]

My honest opinion is that Abacus is better because you get all the variations. They are also cheaper and not German.

[@dickyyy116]

Skill Builder I'll try using- I've been using abacus for years but moved away from them - maybe I'll start going back to them! I used to spec the recess's but I found tilers hated them as they couldn't match up groutlines / distances!! Look forward to this series!

[@javadchohan]

Hi Roger, I am installing the 820 WC frame next to the 1180 basin frame and next to this is the towel radiator. The wc frame is by the external wall. there is a 360 height difference between the wc and basin frame and I plan to fix the hot and cold manifolds above the WC frame. The question is what material should I use to create a durable hinged door for access that looks good and will not absorb steam and warp? In your video you cut a walnut shelf for manifold access but wouldn't the cut side of the exposed MDF absorb moisture? Many thanks for your help in advance

[@javadchohan]

I have found a tile door kit from access panels.co.uk for £21 and I believe this will work

[@javadchohan]

It is the alpro 2000

[@nickyhewitt6640]

Roger what safety shoes do you wear

[@Arsenal-81]

Thinking of studding out my bathroom, how far forward have you studded the wall from the back wal?

[@SkillBuilder]

I usually build to 200 mm from the face to the wall but you can build it much close if you use the slimline cistern and have a soil pipe outside.

[@starman7982]

Hello Roger, I've got the abacus system, and just like you demonstrate in this video that the system in on top of some plywood which is sitting on top of the 2x3 stud timber, but it's the leg of the abacus system much wider and as such would be unable to screw all three holes of the system into the 2x3 timber? How did you solve this?

[@SkillBuilder]

You don't need all three holes, they give you three but one in each foot is enough. I usually put a block of wood behind the stud but you don't need it.

[@Missmimiology]

What's the standard width for a stud wall which holds sink plumbing and toilet waste pipe? I've been told everything from 150mm, 200mm and 240mm?!... This chap says 8 inches which equates 203.2mm is that correct? Does that include plaster board and tiles? We need to know before ordering our furniture, thank you x

[@SkillBuilder]

The space behind is usually anything over 110mm but to the front of the frame I go for 225mm which gives you a nice space for the soil pipe but if the soil pipe is going straight out through the wall you can do less. A slimline cistern is 90mm so consider a 100mm stud work plus the tile backer board and tiles so say 125mm finished front of pre wall from the structural wall.

[@Missmimiology]

@@SkillBuilder Hi thank you for replying so quickly! So in total you would say 225mm for the entire depth of the wall including backer board, tiles and a slimline cistern? What size soil pipe would we need to use for this scenario? Our soil pipes needs to go along, left and then down. Thank you x

[@Missmimiology]

@@SkillBuilder .... Or are you saying that there are two options; 225mm total width from original wall to front of new stud wall including tiles AND/ OR a smaller option of 125mm from original wall to front of new stud wall including tiles too? How will we know which once we need? Obviously we would like the new stud wall to be a slim as possible to maximise space. Thank you :)

[@envoycdx]

Roger, what size timbers are you using for the wall studding? 4x2? or 3x2?

[@CarlosFandandgo]

It's 4x2 (38mm x 89mm).

[@mxlyzer]

Wow 🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗 very nice. How much would a bathroom like that costs? Was quoted today 15k for a bathroom. Im shocked. 😂

[@SkillBuilder]

£15k would buy you the materials. With the labour this is closer to £30k

[@mxlyzer]

@@SkillBuilder looks like i'm in the wrong trade 🤣

[@BestUserNameUK]

Are you using a Huepar laser level?

[@SkillBuilder]

No Immex

[@sickandtiredofcomplaining6574]

16:14 10 out of 10 housewives agree!

[@stephenoneill258]

Rog ,just a query not a judgment why in England do you still use wood instead of metal studding

[@tomclark2602]

Cheaper, and stronger.

[@SkillBuilder]

I find the metal studding is hard to work with on a job like this. You can use it but we are putting in panels for mounting valves so timber is just a bit easier.

[@terryhunter7997]

Were can i buy a sb tshirt snickers one not the cheapos

[@george-1961]

Is there a part 5 coming up?

[@SkillBuilder]

there are 10 parts week by week. Watch the timelapse preview

[@SkillBuilder]

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[@Goodwithwood69]

Solid work as always! What laser level was that please?

[@Goodwithwood69]

Just seen it in the Dolby doo below!

[@thedesigntech]

Love these installs but having to wait for the next video is annoying 😂

[@SkillBuilder]

Yes sorry but they take time to edit. Just leave it a few weeks and binge watch them.

[@ChrisHansonDev]

Another great video. Would you come to Yorkshire and do my bathroom? Need toilet and bathroom making into one big bathroom etc.

[@SkillBuilder]

We are up in Yorkshire quite a lot. Harrogate is the home of Abacus but we are booked solid for the next two years.

[@ChrisHansonDev]

I’m not surprised your booked up. You’re awesome!

[@lloyd1233]

You should do give away I would love to win!!! 👍

[@MrSthomas423]

The camera work :/

[@johnington]

You are paid by Abacus aren't you?

[@SkillBuilder]

yes, that is not a secret. We acknowledge all sponsors.

[@riyad114]

Too much talking