Batman: Arkham Trilogy Nintendo Switch Review - A Disastrously Poor Release

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@pobbityboppity1110
@pobbityboppity1110 9 ай бұрын
“This shouldn’t have passed QA” I assure you, it didn’t. They knew this was broken.
@bondspy
@bondspy 9 ай бұрын
Agreed. QA enters hundred of bugs that are waived for various reasons even after QA argues them. These decisions are made from Production on up.
@elone3997
@elone3997 9 ай бұрын
Yup, and shows how they regard their customers right? Just unacceptable.
@devilmikey00
@devilmikey00 9 ай бұрын
Yeah, QA gets thrown under the bus far to often. Remember how the CEO of CDPR blamed them for CP2077's poor launch as if the fucking QA team somehow missed the boatload of bugs on every platform and gave CDPR the thumbs up lol.
@bondspy
@bondspy 9 ай бұрын
@@devilmikey00 I actually did forget about this until now. And this type of behavior fuels the misconception of "WhErE iS Qa?!?!"
@SerBallister
@SerBallister 9 ай бұрын
@@devilmikey00 It's not like QA sign off on the golden master and ship it out with no one else in the company seeing it. Every department knew that game was broken.
@meisterwu8922
@meisterwu8922 9 ай бұрын
The ESRB should introduce a new “Horrible Performance” warning for games like this. No customer should have to live with shit like that.
@Shieftain
@Shieftain 9 ай бұрын
So long as the masses keep lapping up subpar ports, the publishers couldn't care less. People with little to no standards and poor self-control are why those of us who are still sane can't have nice things anymore.
@KingKrouch
@KingKrouch 9 ай бұрын
@@Shieftaini don’t feel like that’s gonna fix anything with silent boycotting. Corporate executives are out of touch and will blame anything else other than the actual issue. With gaming journalism only going to report on these issues if customers are dealing with it, it’s really up to the average joe to play the role of the reviewer nowadays.
@Fallen608
@Fallen608 9 ай бұрын
@@Shieftain Finally somebody who gets it. It's really painful to know my chosen recreation activity is largely inhabited by drooling consumers who can't stop themselves from buying absolute garbage.
@leithaziz2716
@leithaziz2716 9 ай бұрын
If " constant stutter" counts, then I would include Elden Ring's PC port in that case.
@KingKrouch
@KingKrouch 9 ай бұрын
@@leithaziz2716 yeah the elden ring pc port sucks, but I’m honestly glad that FromSoftware put effort into Armored Core VI. Which you can’t say for other Japanese developers shitting out bad ports that get defended by the same kind of fanboys.
@BooBanana
@BooBanana 9 ай бұрын
I don’t understand why they would’ve even attempted to port Arkham Knight on switch. If the idea was to sell a trilogy I think porting Arkham Origins instead of Knight would’ve been a better choice, plus it would give origins a chance to finally get some love for once.
@WhiteWolf496
@WhiteWolf496 9 ай бұрын
I agree totally. Origins is basically City in terms of visuals imo but a bit more cartoony for designs.
@pixelmentia
@pixelmentia 9 ай бұрын
I mean they've ported a number of demanding PS4 titles successfully on Switch. Dying Light, Witcher 3, Hogwarts, Doom Eternal, etc. They could have done it here as well but they were just lazy.
@kagemara277
@kagemara277 9 ай бұрын
Lol Doom Eternal runs great on Switch! This could run well if it got a proper treatment! Bus this is gross!
@Johnjohnson2695
@Johnjohnson2695 9 ай бұрын
​@@pixelmentia They all had effort, care, and probably most importantly, money behind them to make genuinely good versions of those games though. I bet the goal of this was to crap it out as cheap as possible.
@therealjaystone2344
@therealjaystone2344 9 ай бұрын
That would require WB to spend their money on polishing the game, taking it years to complete like Platinum Games.
@etran07
@etran07 9 ай бұрын
I can only imagine how frustrating the Batmobile must be for the Riddler track challenges
@goldmemberpb
@goldmemberpb 9 ай бұрын
This really should have been a next gen Nintendo release. They could have just given us the WiiU version of Origins instead of Knight and then have that be a nice standalone remaster down the line.
@tyrcipher8811
@tyrcipher8811 9 ай бұрын
They won't give us origins. People has been asking for an Origins port for ages. But Origins will continue to the be unloved stepchild of the franchise.
@StillWeRide
@StillWeRide 9 ай бұрын
Hilarious a game a decade old needs to be ported to the "next gen" system....nintendo needs to stop using last generation phone hardware for their consoles. Its embarassing
@johnnyguitar8067
@johnnyguitar8067 9 ай бұрын
​@StillWeRide well it's how they keep their consoles so affordable. They also rarely need to use the full processing power of their systems.
@jeveritt8398
@jeveritt8398 9 ай бұрын
Maybe not base it off the wii u code given those ports were very much not good. I hope nintendo fans get good versions of these games eventually
@hasan1980hb
@hasan1980hb 9 ай бұрын
I think everyone knew this as soon as it was accounted on the switch a disastrously under powered console, for hecks sake even the trailer for it was almost in stop motion I rememebr watching it lol
@itsaxel8088
@itsaxel8088 9 ай бұрын
These muddy textures would make some riddler puzzles hard to solve since they require you to look at artwork or graphiti on walls.
@doubleog6149
@doubleog6149 9 ай бұрын
Nobody is looking for those
@SimonBuchanNz
@SimonBuchanNz 9 ай бұрын
​@@doubleog6149I'm looking for those
@Sergio-oe4sb
@Sergio-oe4sb 9 ай бұрын
@@doubleog6149speak for yourself. I’m that weirdo that does
@forasago
@forasago 9 ай бұрын
@@doubleog6149 Wrong. Riddler puzzles are my favorite content in the Arkham games, especially in City and Knight. A lot of work went into those puzzles and Knight had more Riddler content than any prior game so you know they were popular with the fans according to Rocksteady's market research. Riddler content is also one of the reasons Origins gets rated so poorly. Bad / little Riddler content.
@noahdavis7406
@noahdavis7406 9 ай бұрын
​@@doubleog6149In Knight, you quite literally need all of them to actually beat the game. If you don't 100% it, the game legitimately doesn't end.
@OhMyPoBoy
@OhMyPoBoy 9 ай бұрын
Im glad you covered this one Oliver. Your brand of blunt constructive criticism was perfect. I was interested in the trilogy when it was announced, and am baffled at how bad it came out
@SantiagoLeungPrime
@SantiagoLeungPrime 9 ай бұрын
The first two games are decent wdym
@AchiragChiragg
@AchiragChiragg 9 ай бұрын
​@@SantiagoLeungPrimedid you watch the video?
@Emo_Parker
@Emo_Parker 9 ай бұрын
@@SantiagoLeungPrimeNot really. They average like 25 fps lol
@omarcomming722
@omarcomming722 9 ай бұрын
Huh? I think Oliver is the most forgiving and that he generally praises games and visuals more than they deserve
@elliottharris7496
@elliottharris7496 9 ай бұрын
I'm glad you left a comment on this video. Your brand of inaccurate commentary left me on the edge of my seat.
@djukor
@djukor 9 ай бұрын
They probably should have added Arkham Origins instead of Knight.
@ArmandQ.
@ArmandQ. 9 ай бұрын
This.
@leithaziz2716
@leithaziz2716 9 ай бұрын
Agreed.
@chasegrimmstone8647
@chasegrimmstone8647 9 ай бұрын
Can't believe WB is that hellbent on Origins not getting a modern port that they give us a terrible Arkham Knight(ass) port on Switch
@ahmedhasan4966
@ahmedhasan4966 9 ай бұрын
Agreed!
@alvinanis3006
@alvinanis3006 9 ай бұрын
Tbh I like Origins better than Knight as well
@Rhahdhdn
@Rhahdhdn 9 ай бұрын
They should have just put in Origins instead.
@LeonardoSilva-xm8ft
@LeonardoSilva-xm8ft 9 ай бұрын
YES
@destroyermcw626
@destroyermcw626 9 ай бұрын
Only Wii U can handle that
@ahmedhasan4966
@ahmedhasan4966 9 ай бұрын
​@@destroyermcw626you know that game is also on Xbox 360 and PS3? Switch can easily handle batman Arkham origins because the switch is more powerful than 7th generation consoles and Wii U.
@JoveroIV
@JoveroIV 9 ай бұрын
This game is a wonderful example of frame timing issues. I didn’t understand it but watching this footage, I get it now
@fenixa2z936
@fenixa2z936 9 ай бұрын
Money grab, absolutely ridiculous. Who is playing this game and enjoying it? Makes PlayStation Portal with a bad connection gaming look silky smooth 😂
@emilbodholdtnielsen2736
@emilbodholdtnielsen2736 9 ай бұрын
The true hero of this version of the game is the player him-/herself. 😁
@RedKnightInGotham
@RedKnightInGotham 9 ай бұрын
I'm honestly really glad they went with the original versions of Asylum and City and not the ones from Return to Arkham. Was not a fan of how that handled the cutscenes and character models. Made everything look overly bright for no reason.
@marcelosoares7148
@marcelosoares7148 9 ай бұрын
True but unfortunately, Asylum RTA is the only one with the beautiful rain that got cut on the X360/PS3/PC for some reason.
@haxeltheplug1913
@haxeltheplug1913 9 ай бұрын
So what if you lowered the brightness lol
@RedKnightInGotham
@RedKnightInGotham 9 ай бұрын
@@haxeltheplug1913 The cutscene brightness in RTA is different from the in-game brightness for some reason so even if I did, I would have to keep configuring it after every cutscene. Also that still wouldn't account for the lighting and character model changes in the cutscenes which in my opinion, make them look significantly worse than in the original.
@WH250398
@WH250398 9 ай бұрын
​@@haxeltheplug1913Brightness isn't the real difference. Lighting, colors, colorgrading, saturation, and character models are.
@abakusx
@abakusx 9 ай бұрын
Why they did not include Arkham Origins and kept Knight for the Switch 2 is a mystery to me.
@haniputani
@haniputani 9 ай бұрын
It's not a mystery, WB just wanted to make a quick profit
@Aesthetic626
@Aesthetic626 9 ай бұрын
No such thing as switch 2 fangirl
@Bert439
@Bert439 9 ай бұрын
WB would have cut corners like they always do for their ports.
@robone9978
@robone9978 9 ай бұрын
nintendo says switch will had 10 years of life, like 2027 😂😂
@Oakley999
@Oakley999 9 ай бұрын
The Witcher 3 shows how Switch hardware isn't the problem, the issue is with devs who dont know / are too lazy to optimize , like here.
@buffsniper
@buffsniper 9 ай бұрын
You can play fucking risk of rain 2, rdr1, the long dark, bioshock 1 and 2, and borderlands games on switch, but not arkham knights? Bruh💀
@KiddoVerse
@KiddoVerse 9 ай бұрын
I can accept low res textures, shadows and effects, even less polygons to achieve a good gameplay but that horrible performance kills my desire to buy it. What makes me angrier is that I cannot buy them separately. Also, it was supposed to be a good port because they delay it 2 months to work on it, but we all know it was because October was full of good releases.
@AlexanTheMan
@AlexanTheMan 9 ай бұрын
"Wanna see me release a broken port? Wanna see me do it again?" -Warner Bros Games
@destroyermcw626
@destroyermcw626 9 ай бұрын
LOL!!!!
@johnv7317
@johnv7317 9 ай бұрын
To be honest I wanted to get the Batman Arkham Trilogy just to play Batman Arkham Aslyum and Batman Arkham City on my Nintendo Switch.
@Pete-vz5uj
@Pete-vz5uj 8 ай бұрын
Arkham City plays n looks great on Switch. I have sunk about 2 + hours into it. Can't speak for the others.
@HAL1138
@HAL1138 9 ай бұрын
Shouldn’t be sold. Worst part is you can’t buy the games separately either! You have to buy all three if you want the somewhat acceptable City.
@tedrixo8826
@tedrixo8826 9 ай бұрын
Was it hard to stay awake playing this disaster of a game at 3:53 AM? (note 2:48 into the video). You do a great job on these reviews. Thank you for staying up so late for us :)
@SyntaxDaemon
@SyntaxDaemon 9 ай бұрын
He's playing on Richard's account, and they are in different timezones. With that said, Oliver is clearly a super dedicated and hard worker, and we are lucky to have him.
@datacentre81
@datacentre81 9 ай бұрын
Seems like they should have made way more compromises to the world detail. Like, would it be ideal to cut the rain particles entirely? No, but when performance is this bad, that kind of cut would be preferable.
@FAYZER0
@FAYZER0 9 ай бұрын
There is something about these games (putting aside Arkham Knight) that seem to be difficult to port. Even the Wii U version of city had frame time issues that were head scratchers for the time given it was an existing game that wouldn't be doing anything the Wii U couldn't handle. It would be easy to fault the skill of the porting houses but when you collectively look at multiple studios having trouble with these games even now I would love an honest conversation from developers about it. This latest release disappoints me even though I was never it's audience, as I don't feel I need a switch version myself. It is, however, as a series just an all time favorite that I want preserved and accessible to as many people as possible, so it's a real bummer.
@Oryon7
@Oryon7 9 ай бұрын
Even for the Switch, it still feels like much more could have been done here. The fact that the games from the LAST TWO gens don't fear much better than Arkham Knight, says alot. I can't help but notice the launch is right in time for the holiday season, where Switch software goes into overdrive. There's no way you can convince me that developers weren't under pressure to get this game out.
@alucard2076
@alucard2076 9 ай бұрын
Because getting the rights to Origins made too much sense.
@GabTheAdventurer
@GabTheAdventurer 9 ай бұрын
Hoping that the Outer Wilds port (which releases tomorrow) is in great shape, will be waiting for the review!
@Randomninja47
@Randomninja47 9 ай бұрын
I could probably enjoy Asylum and City well enough, especially in portable mode, but knight is a bit too far. It's playable, but it would be rough. Glad I got these on my steam deck if wanted. I've been playing Origins on Deck and it's been running fine so far and looks great.
@alfrankowski8297
@alfrankowski8297 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for the break down on this title. My suspicion was that this game was suffering from more than just coming out on older hardware, but there were far more problems at hand. It is not just that they made and released an unacceptable port of a demanding game (or set of games); it looks like they made really drastic cuts that go well beyond the what would have been needed to bring the game out on the switch. The developers may have still needed more time or resources, but pushed ahead anyway and there is no other way to put it than that this is a bafflingly bad port.
@StuartHart
@StuartHart 9 ай бұрын
This kinda reminds me of how Doom 3 looks running on a Voodoo card.
@bliglum
@bliglum 9 ай бұрын
Switch 2, is LONG overdue..
@mikkoholopainen5112
@mikkoholopainen5112 9 ай бұрын
It looks like you were downloading the other Arkham titles in the background while playing Arkham Knight. In my experience the Switch doesn't handle background downloads well and it makes even the best optimized games freeze up whenever they need to load stuff into memory.
@UnexpectedDanger
@UnexpectedDanger 9 ай бұрын
Explains why lots of folks didn't have problems. DF is kind of inept.
@MaxIronsThird
@MaxIronsThird 9 ай бұрын
It would be funny to put the Wii U version of Arkham City and Origins in the comparison.
@vanessa1963x
@vanessa1963x 9 ай бұрын
You forgot to mention whether or not Harley Quinn's behind wobbles in the Switch version of Arkham Knight, or if she firmed it up. You disappoint me greatly, Digital Foundry.
@kingamer1234
@kingamer1234 9 ай бұрын
That’s very important to know
@JamesSmith-sw3nk
@JamesSmith-sw3nk 9 ай бұрын
I recently installed Batman: Arkham Asylum on my 13700k to see how it would play on the Intel UHD Graphics 770. It played great at 1440p max settings at a locked 60fps. There are a LOT of older games that will play on integrated graphics these days.
@WH250398
@WH250398 9 ай бұрын
The past two console generations could technically be considered integrated graphics too. APU's have evolved to ridiculously impressive levels.
@eddiew.4650
@eddiew.4650 9 ай бұрын
​​@@WH250398Ryzen APU's are nearly on par with a GTX 1050. By the time GTA 6 comes out on PC, I wouldn't be surprised to see Mini PCs being able to run it surprisingly well.
@bltzcstrnx
@bltzcstrnx 9 ай бұрын
​@@WH250398console SoC is more like GPU with integrated CPU. Meanwhile PC APU are CPU with integrated GPU.
@lastlaff69
@lastlaff69 9 ай бұрын
I played through them all on PC at highly modded 4k60 not long ago so it's fairly fresh and beautiful in my mind. Seeing this is absolute pain.
@InfectedAI
@InfectedAI 9 ай бұрын
What mods?
@DarthMeteos
@DarthMeteos 9 ай бұрын
"Arkham Knight for the PC is one of the worst ports ever" Switch Port: Hold my Batarang
@supernightslash
@supernightslash 9 ай бұрын
Some games REALLY DON'T BEED TO BE ON THE SWITCH. Arkham Knight was the dumbest choice for a Switch port.
@Reginald_Harrison
@Reginald_Harrison 9 ай бұрын
5:12 couldn’t they have used fog to cover up the landscape instead of a strip of buildings? That looks goofy as hell 😂
@KARLOSPCgame
@KARLOSPCgame 9 ай бұрын
I would say that the fog would worsen the performance 😅
@Marcus-ll2bt
@Marcus-ll2bt 9 ай бұрын
They could have swapped Arkham Knight out for Arkham Origins and focussed on polishing all of those. Then if they wanted to add Knight, wait for Switch 2. Some ports are just too big to fit into the small shoes that are Switch 1
@memento81
@memento81 9 ай бұрын
Nintendo is just not interested in releasing current gen hardware in their consoles. The Switch was already way, way behind base PS4 and XOne with its measly 256 GPU cores and a mobile quadcore processor clocking at less than a GHZ. 4 GB of old DDR4 Ram with only 1600 Mhz clock speed is also very low and behind last gen. There are phones with more power than the Switch. They just shouldn't try to port last gen AAA games to the Switch.
@GemmstoneA
@GemmstoneA 9 ай бұрын
@@memento81 Doom 2016 and Doom Eternal and a lot of other game ports would like to have a talk with you, the fact that arkham is a code mess that was released with no effort behind it as a cash cow is not the device's fault and it wouldn't have mattered if it was more powerful.
@inshal6420
@inshal6420 9 ай бұрын
@@GemmstoneAthat comparison doesn’t work. You can’t use games that are built on different engines/tech to another. Even on the same engine there’s so much going on in the background it doesn’t work. I didn’t know this either until I got into game dev.
@GemmstoneA
@GemmstoneA 9 ай бұрын
@@inshal6420 My guy, the location system in the map doesn't even work, yes, you're right that you can't compare engines, Unreal is so damn bloated for example, but that doesn't mean that this specific port wasn't released as a cash cow without effort, there's so many games that were ported that even if you don't like how they look, they at least work (ie. The Witcher 3) and are playable, this is not. and again, if the switch was 2 or 3 times more powerfull, it wouldn't have mattered.
@KH4UF
@KH4UF 9 ай бұрын
Shouldn't this be illegal to sell a broken product at full price. Not to mention exploiting customers without any ramifications. We badly need a Quality Check Government Authority to verify such easily detectable unfinished ports for consoles & at recommended specs for PC.
@The_Story_Of_Us
@The_Story_Of_Us 9 ай бұрын
It was never a question of "Can Arkham Knight run on Switch?", it's "SHOULD Arkham Knight run on Switch?" the answer is a resounding "wtf were you even thinking, you morons?"
@lesniak60
@lesniak60 9 ай бұрын
I installed Arkham Knight on pc today and played it on max settings 90 fps locked. Geez it looks soo good. It is hard to believe that this game is 8 years old. Honestly if I could get any new game looking that good running locked 90fps then take my money and fck ray tracing.
@deabreu.tattoo
@deabreu.tattoo 9 ай бұрын
I guess this port was actually impossible
@lonewanderer9982
@lonewanderer9982 9 ай бұрын
Maybe it can be patched
@DarshanBhambhani
@DarshanBhambhani 9 ай бұрын
It really makes you feel like Batman on the minimum spec pc
@AlexSwanson1
@AlexSwanson1 9 ай бұрын
Nintendo should take some responsibility and block sale of this until it’s fixed, if it’s even fixable. The whole point of a console is a seamless experience, people shouldn’t have to make a judgement on whether a *console game* is playable on their hardware.
@tmoney360
@tmoney360 9 ай бұрын
I just want a 60fps patch for Knight on PS5 and XBSX.
@samza9622
@samza9622 9 ай бұрын
And 4k support and higher texture resolution and higher texture filtering.
@dooleh84
@dooleh84 9 ай бұрын
They could patch these 3 games on PS4 to run at 60fps on PS5 to make up for this...
@destroyermcw626
@destroyermcw626 9 ай бұрын
I can Play at 60fps on Xbox one X in Challenge mode and Riddler’s Revenge.
@swagar
@swagar 9 ай бұрын
And while they're at it, make Knight stop crashing on PS5. Happens probably 20 times per playthrough.
@dooleh84
@dooleh84 9 ай бұрын
@@swagar I didn't know that... I still need to platinum that thing and the mountain of useless dlc it has.
@thevirtuouscollector
@thevirtuouscollector 9 ай бұрын
I used to hate Arkham Knight as I felt the influence of nearly every common complain at the time (Batmobile and predictable antagonist reveal) and joined the bandwagon like everyone else until I was going trough a rough patch in my life in 2018, replayed it and realized maybe that's the point of the game-- Batman gets hammered physically and mentally but he never breaks, never complains and that car isn't a burden, it's an extension of his indomitable willpower, you just can't break him no matter what you do, and the Arkham Knight character while equal in skill, has none of those qualities. I took that as the lesson of the game and it became one of my fav games ever. As for the Switch port, WB should have held this back until the Switch successor. Just pull this for sale like they did with the PC port as there's no way this is doing an already misunderstood game any justice.
@sebastianfeola8772
@sebastianfeola8772 9 ай бұрын
Hopefully there’s going to be a patch to solve some of the issues soon 🤷🏻‍♂️
@robone9978
@robone9978 9 ай бұрын
if not sales, not patch...
@sebastianfeola8772
@sebastianfeola8772 9 ай бұрын
@@robone9978 If not patch, not sales also
@mrbrookah4117
@mrbrookah4117 9 ай бұрын
Ultimately this example asks the question; When a game has to be significantly downgraded that it becomes unrecognizable and unplayable, should it be ported at all? Of course the publishers will say yes no matter what, but should they charge full price for a downgraded game that is almost 9 years old? Also, I worked on Arkham Origins and so the "Trilogy" hurts a little :(
@marcelosoares7148
@marcelosoares7148 9 ай бұрын
Yeah, WB ignores Arkham Origins when it comes to this franchise for some reason.
@doomguyplays
@doomguyplays 9 ай бұрын
It’s a shame, too. I loved the story in Arkham Origins.
@MustangPEK
@MustangPEK 9 ай бұрын
Excellent analysis, I submitted an email of complaint and requested a full refund. The Trilogy is shocking on the Switch, the first two Asylum and City are in an unacceptable state especially considering age of the games and its not like it's remastered versions either and Knight is basically mostly unplayable! Delayed for months and they STILL pushed this CRAP out to the public!? ABSOLUTELY SHAMEFUL! How this was even green lighted to go gold on switch and then be sold to the public is absolutely disgraceful really! Developers must stop releasing broken/badly performing games... It's like they don't even test them anymore before going gold... No day one patches either to fix issues, the developers should be ashamed of themselves putting out this trilogy in a state like that! It's basically just a quick cheap and nasty cash grab, all this behaviour does is damage trust between gamers and the industry! Sad how bad things are getting now...
@jkmjoshuma
@jkmjoshuma 9 ай бұрын
im sick of this thing being called unplayable.. it plays, its playable
@colorcommentary3009
@colorcommentary3009 9 ай бұрын
games with game breaking bugs technically play but they are unplayable. Don't be foolish
@Moonwalker86
@Moonwalker86 9 ай бұрын
First MK1 and now this, these companies should feel ashamed, including Nintendo itself.
@Mospen
@Mospen 9 ай бұрын
Fantastic work Oliver! Very informative and saddening. Companies will always go after the almighty dollar. I do wonder though at what point will it harm their reputation so much that they learn not to do this?
@RussGreeno
@RussGreeno 9 ай бұрын
Cutting the world into segments with loading times would have been better, if the system can't stream it at all well, why bother. Also the resolution, why not drop to 480p to help a bit, that's still 'dvd' quality.
@PogueSquadron
@PogueSquadron 9 ай бұрын
I’m not surprised. The Return to Arkham port for XBox One was also handled pretty poorly. These games have always just run best on PC, unfortunately.
@DrDingleDangle
@DrDingleDangle 9 ай бұрын
Motion blur being removed definitely goes into the positives category.
@branflakes115
@branflakes115 9 ай бұрын
Common Switch port L
@gureguru4694
@gureguru4694 9 ай бұрын
they REALLY pushed this X1 silicon to the absolute limit jesus christ
@KARLOSPCgame
@KARLOSPCgame 9 ай бұрын
Is it really pushing it when using brute force?
@YouDontWantItWithMe
@YouDontWantItWithMe 9 ай бұрын
12:12 is INSANE. You gotta here what John said. That is a shocking statement. God damn
@alexstam2536
@alexstam2536 9 ай бұрын
Why do they hate arkham origins so much? Why why choose arkham knight when origins would've made this much easier to port and is still an amazing game. Shame...
@destroyermcw626
@destroyermcw626 9 ай бұрын
Wii U plays origins just fine lol
@SyntaxDaemon
@SyntaxDaemon 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for your coverage, Oliver! As always, you deliver very effective critique.
@Jtwizzle
@Jtwizzle 9 ай бұрын
I expected a poor showing from knight. The tegra x1 came out the same year. PCs at the time were struggling a bit to run it well. The first two games should have been flawless on the Tegra.
@Wistbacka
@Wistbacka 9 ай бұрын
Arkham on Switch? Arkham Knight took like a year to get patched to work properly on PC and consoles! How the heck did they plan on running this on the equivalent of a toaster?
@CobraF1
@CobraF1 9 ай бұрын
Great review Oliver! I always enjoy the blend of in-depth technical and artistic review of a game's features that Oliver brings. This indeed looks absolutely terrible. I wonder if the devs can significantly improve this post-launch and if it just launched unoptimized OR if it's really unsavable and just beyond the Switch's capabilities...
@craigelchek5700
@craigelchek5700 9 ай бұрын
Still confused why Rocksteady didn’t didn’t put Arkham City on the physical cartridge as well. They definitely could have put Asylum and City on one cart and then just made Knight the separate download.
@EnaTenkiyoGamer
@EnaTenkiyoGamer 9 ай бұрын
Because Nintendo is out of touch? 😂
@WH250398
@WH250398 9 ай бұрын
Probably used the smallest card size again to cut costs.
@EnaTenkiyoGamer
@EnaTenkiyoGamer 9 ай бұрын
@WH250398 hahaha it's the guy that hates the ps vita. How are you feeling knowing that sony announced the third portable aka playstation portal that proves you were wrong about sony not making a portable againe when they did. You owe me a million apologies that you were wrong that sony is going to make a handheld after the ps vita hahahaha
@WH250398
@WH250398 9 ай бұрын
@@EnaTenkiyoGamer What kind of drugs are you on?
@EnaTenkiyoGamer
@EnaTenkiyoGamer 9 ай бұрын
@@WH250398 what kind of hate fetish are you on about the playstation portal hahaha
@snowontheweb
@snowontheweb 9 ай бұрын
They should have put Arkham Origins on switch instead of Arkham Knight.
@cody3335
@cody3335 9 ай бұрын
The fact they made it at all is hilarious 😂
@RASPUTIN_GB
@RASPUTIN_GB 9 ай бұрын
IT'S A SWITCH !
@Danieldialga
@Danieldialga 9 ай бұрын
Did anyone really think that Arkham Knight would run on the switch? When it came out on PC, there was not one single system that could run it. They fixed it eventually but it took them literally years :D
@f1nkangel
@f1nkangel 9 ай бұрын
Thank you Oliver. I might have bought this but - oh boy, it looks like playing a title while something else is busy taking priority on the storage medium - the actual visuals look as expected for switch and 'okay' but the pipeline is stretched too thin...The "wow" factor from the OG versions - "Hang on, is this actually playable?" moments missing feel like a compromise too far.
@OmegaRejectz
@OmegaRejectz 9 ай бұрын
As a huge fan of the Arkham series this video is wonderful. What an absymal port.
@elderwitch8632
@elderwitch8632 9 ай бұрын
genuinely feel sorry for any kids getting this for christmas. If the switch is their primary console and they are a batman fan. Shame on you ! Developers
@dgm778
@dgm778 8 ай бұрын
It shows that there was a bad budget in that port... sad...
@shaunstephen9761
@shaunstephen9761 9 ай бұрын
Does setting the TV output to 480p make any difference to frame rate?
@KaitDiaz47
@KaitDiaz47 9 ай бұрын
No
@da_pikmin_coder8367
@da_pikmin_coder8367 9 ай бұрын
Arkham Knight is still one of the best looking games I've ever played, nearly 8 years later. Even games with comparable graphical fidelity pale in comparison to Knight's artistic direction, imo. So of course I didn't think the Switch was going to hold a candle to PC or even PS4/XBox One versions. But this somehow managed to look worse than I expected. It looks like a Call of Duty Wii game and performs like Cyberpunk [at launch].
@MrRom92DAW
@MrRom92DAW 9 ай бұрын
I want to believe that this port was made with the expectation that more powerful switch hardware would be out by now. Maybe it has an uncapped framerate and will see a significant boost in performance by running on anything other than a Switch as we currently know it
@asmodeusml
@asmodeusml 9 ай бұрын
All this reminds me of is how awesome AK was in terms of its technology on consoles.
@JohnGaltAustria
@JohnGaltAustria 9 ай бұрын
Should've ported Akham: Origins instead of Knight to the Switch, which was criminally underrated anyway.
@destroyermcw626
@destroyermcw626 9 ай бұрын
Wii U can play Origins just fine to and with the Cool Gamepad.
@ITNoetic
@ITNoetic 9 ай бұрын
"This should never have gotten past QA" No, QA almost always finds these issues. The problem is, the decision to fix them isn't up to anyone who cares to have them fixed in favor of meeting their deadline for shipping.
@anglo-saxonconnor817
@anglo-saxonconnor817 9 ай бұрын
The switch is mainly target at casual gamers. The type that do short burst gaming when they are outdoor. For this kind of consumers what the switch can do and deliver is already acceptable and enough for the switch owners already. Its mainly the consoles and pc gamers who are doing unfair comparisons and whining the loudest on the internet.
@EnaTenkiyoGamer
@EnaTenkiyoGamer 9 ай бұрын
Nintendo switch is garbage son 😂😂😂
@Youtube-Censorship-Police
@Youtube-Censorship-Police 9 ай бұрын
ports like metro 2033 and last light, alien isolation, bulletstorm, portal 1&2, dark souls, or rdr1 are perfect proof of how nicely games from that era can run on the switch when they are ported well, this on the other hand is simply atrocious. shame on you wb!👎
@brucesmith7481
@brucesmith7481 9 ай бұрын
The smart move would've been releasing Origins, Asylum, and City on Switch, then release Arkham Knight on Switch 2. This is an embarrassment.
@channelstark
@channelstark 9 ай бұрын
They delayed it by a month so they can work on it more for 'the highest quality possible' well it was long enough
@JoeyBoBoey
@JoeyBoBoey 9 ай бұрын
Nintendo just feeding their children 7,8,10 year old ports like it’s new and fresh.
@destroyermcw626
@destroyermcw626 9 ай бұрын
I know isn’t it great?!!!!!
@you2be839
@you2be839 9 ай бұрын
Gee, what happened to Nintendo's "Seal of Quality", did they lose it somewhere in between the pages of "Easy Profit At Any Cost, for Dummies"?!
@Graf27green
@Graf27green 9 ай бұрын
Lol, this seal means nothing. Even back in the old days, awful games had the seal, too. Superman 64 had it, too, for example. This seal is just a licenced by big N seal, nothing more.
@you2be839
@you2be839 9 ай бұрын
@@Graf27green I don't know about any major issues with Superman 64, never played it and I really don't remember something being said about it... but I do know I never had any major issue with NES and SNES games back in the day... I mean, Starfox felt slower than most SNES games, but it was also at the bleeding edge of what the SNES could do. And I also do know that before Nintendo's "Seal of Quality", it was pretty much the Wild West in terms of quality assurance of video games.
@WhiteWolf496
@WhiteWolf496 9 ай бұрын
They rereleased the launch version of Arkham Knight on PC? Interesting decision. (I say this as someone who put like 80 hours into Arkham Knight pre patch)
@JawnSmith
@JawnSmith 9 ай бұрын
I bought it for asylum and city. I just wish they would have included origins instread of Arkham Knight.
@InglesSpanishConversation
@InglesSpanishConversation 9 ай бұрын
It's as if THEY KNEW, Knight would be a disaster, but they HAD to release 3 games to be able to charge FULL AAA launch price. They SHOULD have moved heaven and earth to have Origins instead, and then alot of people's ears would have perked up, knowing that, THAT is the original trilogy: and image how it would have moved physical copies, if origins was the game on the cart.
@kastaway-m4x
@kastaway-m4x 9 ай бұрын
That's the main issue I have. They released it anyways even though they knew full well it drops to single digit fps and runs like ass. I would also like to blame Nintendo for putting this crap port on the eshop, PS and Xbox both shat over Cyberpunk for it and pulled the game but Nintendo seems to be aok with this release. Epic fail.
@RJH755
@RJH755 9 ай бұрын
Arkham Knight is one thing, it should honestly have been optimised way more for a system that has competent ports of The Witcher 3 and Doom Eternal, but framerate issues in Asylum and City? These are Xbox 360 games ffs!
@PaulGregory86
@PaulGregory86 9 ай бұрын
The fact they release this and let people buy it is a complete joke.. ..
@grimdicer152
@grimdicer152 9 ай бұрын
It's an even bigger joke that people *will* buy it
@alvinanis3006
@alvinanis3006 9 ай бұрын
The very least to expect is for the two games of Asylum and City to perform well, considering they came out for the PS3/360. But nah, they can't even do that.
@Prowerexem
@Prowerexem 7 ай бұрын
Wait what if they introduce fsr 2.0 into the engine or use a newer version of unreal engine 4 with upscaling and use that upscaling for switch to replace the anti aliasing and help performance, maybe it could help slightly with Arkham knight as well not much considering well yeah overclocking doesn’t fix much.
@Halo44327
@Halo44327 9 ай бұрын
I mean it’s impressive that arkham knight plays at all on switch. Are we kind of really expecting a good fps for this game that couldn’t even run well on pc for a long time?
@ereviscale3966
@ereviscale3966 9 ай бұрын
"Rubberbanding, like in some older multiplayer games" [Diablo 4 awkwardly looks down and hopes nobody notices them]
@Felacio
@Felacio 9 ай бұрын
Not to be that guy, but lumping Arkham Knight in with Asylum and City as “polished” before the first 30secs of a video I’m supposed to take as an unbiased deep dive is already a misdirection. Knight was a pile on release and was never fixed on PC, it was instead delisted, “patched” and relisted effectively “as is.” The studio said they can’t fix the bugs.
@ai841deku
@ai841deku 9 ай бұрын
Is it just me, or was more care taken with ports to Switch earlier in the Switch lifecycle than now?
@shredasaur8857
@shredasaur8857 9 ай бұрын
Such a shame, I was actually thinking of picking this up as I haven't played it since they were originally released.
@yourbrother204
@yourbrother204 9 ай бұрын
We used to joke about Seconds Per Frames but madlads at WB actually did it.
@jackfavvv0280
@jackfavvv0280 9 ай бұрын
WB took to even further and left the game to hang at 0 fps for a few seconds.
@phrank2010
@phrank2010 9 ай бұрын
They really saw how poorly Arkham Knight launched on PC and said "hold my titan serum"
@vivaladokky
@vivaladokky 9 ай бұрын
I really disagree with 0:12 I somewhat agree with Arkham City and completely with Asylum yes... Arkham Knight has never been polished on either last gen consoles or PC. My PS4 and Series X does not maintain a stable 30fps and it crashes surprisingly often. The PC port eventually became good although that crashes somewhat often too, sadly the Arkham City PC port is a stuttering mess as well unless you tweak some ini files
@rangokfunkazuul8344
@rangokfunkazuul8344 9 ай бұрын
Thought the same "very polished" I was like "unless he meant Polish, Knight was certainly not polished when it launched elsewhere"
@azazeln
@azazeln 9 ай бұрын
They could have ported Arkham Origins instead of Knight and everything / everyone would have been fine...
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