Battery-Free Turrets

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[@SParrow_wt]

Maus gunner handcranking the turret 💀

[@leonmoran9323]

Popeye be cranking it

[@ERROR-vj8zo]

Nah kratos be cranking that

[@TartagliaThe_11th_McDsEmployee]

"Shinji, Crank that soulja boy"

[@Teh0X]

Makes me wonder if Maus even had handcraks or perhaps there were cranks for the whole turret crew to wave it together? :D

[@Zorro9129]

Extreme gearing would be required.

[@leonmoran9323]

My electric drive turret when my gunner goes orange 💀

[@badluck-cp8bv]

Fun fact: electric/hydrolic turrets should NOT be getting efected in terms of turret slew rate, instead; it should be less responsive aka the turret has to speed up before reaching max. slew rate (unless the electric/hydrolic drive is hand-opareted , then the gunner being orange would efect the turret the same way as hand-cranked turrets)

[@coleramsey6705]

Of course, he can't press the buttons/move the yoke as hard

[@Nothing-yq2gz]

​@@coleramsey6705 well it's not like moving the yoke is hard lol, it's like a controller, so the getting hit shouldn't effect it as much as it does for manual drives

[@oibunghom1864]

KV-2 gunner trying to handcrank the turret

[@williambeisel5686]

The KV-2 is already hand cranked

[@alexturnbackthearmy1907]

@@williambeisel5686 Or the reason why you cant use KV-2 on sloped terrain IRL.

[@Real_courier_trust]

Who's gonna tell him?

[@v3al0m69]

​​@@alexturnbackthearmy1907that is why Su-152 was created. Kv-2 is basically bunker buster with ability to move.

[@konoko1984]

@@alexturnbackthearmy1907 Same deal with Panthers.

[@velvetthundr]

What I don’t understand is my red gunner using electrical-powered traverse taking so long.

[@LichtL-ni3rl]

“Must ... keep my ... uhh .. finger on the button ...”

[@misterperson3469]

A face full of shrapnel would probably make me do most anything with less enthusiasm

[@robertharris6092]

​@@misterperson3469 you dont magicly push a button less.

[@misterperson3469]

@@robertharris6092 yeah the more realistic version would be a small delay before it starts to traverse but its not an awful abstraction

[@hehehoho3770]

When he's got broken fingers he's going to slowly inch the traverse forwards because that's the only way he gets any sort of accurate traverse.

[@tigersympathiser2265]

I feel like saying the Panzer IV J never loses its turret rotation speed is the kind of like, half pro that you'd find on a war thunder wiki page for it

[@Uberfleeet]

I see so many people using the non premium German Pz IV J over the Pz IV H and I'm like, Why? Name one advantage the PZ IV J has over the PZ IV H. The only one I can think of is smoke grenades.

[@alexhannukka]

​@@Uberfleeetpeople probably just use it because it comes after pz iv h

[@versusVSversus.]

what do you mean "half pro"

[@WPope]

@@versusVSversus. well it's a pro that the turret speed does not change when battery is empty but it does not really help when that speed is already so god damn slow at about 4 degrees per second.

[@versusVSversus.]

@@WPope you're right thanks

[@user-bo4kv4qb7y]

Former K1 gunner here, hand-cranking turret 360° was the hardest job ever in my entire army life....

[@TheOreoOverlord]

So you know how your battery dies slowly when your engine is off? If you move your turret it uses up the battery more quickly. This makes sense on powered turrets however for some reason this is also true on unpowered turrets too so thats a fun bug

[@NickRandt]

But somehow red gunners slow the electric turret drive

[@icy3-1]

The painfully slow manual turret drives

[@RkHy]

Charioteer Mk7 definitely has one of the fastest manual turret traverse speeds for a non spaa

[@SquallHornet]

0:22 "but hand cranked turrets are free from this" They are also free from rotation speed

[@Krzaczor34]

The 105mm sherman is the forgotten handcracking tank

[@sndrc9]

Also apparently for electric drive turrets if you move your cursor so it stays near the crosshair it moves faster than just moving your crosshair fully onto target.

[@Hpa513]

Learned that the hard way😐

[@devlintaylor9520]

wait really? why?

[@tarumvolida6220]

Reminder again that horizontal and even vertical turret rotation is affected by the targeting skill of the gunner in tanks with an electric slewing mechanism and gets horribly slow in game if your gunner becomes red this makes situations where you cannot turn your hull because of tracks or engine damage really bad

[@nickkozak4763]

AA gunners using handcranked turrets somehow slow

[@Momomaster25]

Hahah, they used to have battery running out as a thing for hand cranked turrets. Yes, if the engine was off, the gunner's arms lost 90% of their strength. Only recently fixed in 2023, or something.

[@BeeWaifu]

Wait...I recognize this music... SD Gundam Capsule Fighter?

[@benracer]

Wolverine/Achilles my beloved

[@andrewmencer916]

The mous has one of the slowest cranking turrets I think using electric drive so I wonder what the speed is without the electric with a base of 4.8 seconds of turret traverse okay so neither uses the same type of turret traverse as the panther d or uses a hand crank

[@_blackdeep_3518]

Well technically if battery out gunner switches from electric/hydraulic to manual

[@FMKeb]

M10, Panther (D) fans see this video and get excited.

[@mateomignone947]

did i just watched a video that point out something that is perfectly logical ??

[@thegrayseed2792]

I remember the time i play with the Panther D, never again.

[@TechMagier]

I remember, while every vehicle have huge slowdown of rotation speed with out electric Even BTR-152 or other anti air hand crank Just gunner starts very slowly move hands

[@agustinmelar5496]

they lack the energy xD

[@drplays7978]

to be honest i never knew they fixed the m10 having slower traverse when no battery. i guess its time to try out the m10 soon again lol

[@DarknessVE]

And yet for vehicles such as the M1A1(and later) and some other NATO vehicles, they have an APU that can power everything and is quieter than most car engines

[@robertharris6092]

When did they make thia change? I have 3500 hours and last. I checked the battery dieing still magicly makes hand cranked turrets turn slower

[@staticwombat]

It's extremely confusing, however, that hand cranked turrets still drain battery when moving.

[@jedrzejstepien1621]

Modern western tanks turret speed should also be independent from weather the engine is destroyed or turned off because they have very good APUs which can last hours and supply energy to every vital component. Gajin probably won't add that future any time soon because guess what, russian don't have that

[@average_peanut_fan3059]

I mean it goes back as far as the Centurions (at least 1948 models), they had aux engines. But yeah you're right, we won't be seeing aux engines or regenerative steering any time soon.

[@PAUL-ESNEED]

Pretty sure multiple Russian tanks are equipped with an APU and are equally missing them.

[@TheoElKiwito]

Both russian and western tank have a battery that doesn't run out of energy in 60 seconds like in War Thunder

[@jedrzejstepien1621]

@@PAUL-ESNEED they have batteries and a proper APU was installed frist in BVM then i 90M first

[@spamuraigranatabru1149]

The Sherman tank had auxiliary motors during ww2 too

[@ReviveHF]

That's why you should invest in gunner's aiming and rangefinding skills after you max out the loader's loading skills, because there're situations where you tank's engine is damaged in a high tier frantic fight.

[@fabians7751]

there's other reasons as well, especially for aiming. With skilled aiming, the gunner uses horizontal and vertical traverse at the same time, while an unskilled gunner uses one after the other, taking much longer to get the gun on target

[@cat_clan_leader]

In the past, hand-cranked turrets would go slower if the battery ran out. Good fun

[@madeingermany9445]

Im still wondering why the 2 first german 1x 20mm aa have only one person on the gun and so slow turret movement when no battery. Those where used as towed aa on the ground too.

[@jerryudonneedtoknow3903]

Because war thunder is retarded, it doesn’t want to make things truly accurate for the sake of terrible balancing so they just pretend those crew don’t exist, it should have multiple crew for the guns, at minimum 2-3

[@Toilet158]

How about hans handcracking the maus turret?💀💀

[@mr.threat898]

You wanna see something slow ? Pkvr IV (i think this is the name) with the gunner orange is the most painful experience i have

[@MosKelifer]

This game has mechanics I didn’t even know it had

[@Jan_372]

Hold up a minute: Panther D has the same traverse speed without it's engine on... But it uses a hydraulic pump powered by the engine to turn the turret "faster" than hand traverse😅

[@jerryudonneedtoknow3903]

The initial turret drive sucked so they changed it out, and ergonomics wise, even if it isn’t faster, it’s much easier to use and the gunner and loader aren’t inputting extreme energy and force to turn the thing

[@sid875]

Maus gunner:

[@Stargazer_247]

I thought the music sounded familiar, it’s the old lobby music from SD Gundam online

[@Siwy0.2]

Crank that

[@christophervanoster]

Well then they need to change multiple tanks like my panzer 3. It has no powered traverse yet slows down when battery is dead

[@Orodreth888]

Many tanks must still not be moddled correctly then.

[@simpleknight1922]

Even if the turret is elecrtically driven my Red gunner affecta its performance

[@noir5697]

M10 turret so slow it's like they forgot to hook it up anyway

[@TheGamerUnknown]

Is Panther D not hand-cranked? I swore it was.

[@randomgai7531]

Me after the gym

[@hoganbhatara5361]

CRANK THAT SOULJA BOI!!!!!!!!!

[@BymesYS]

캐터펄트 스탠바이! 출동하십쇼!

[@johnsmith-jq1uc]

maus gunner💀

[@danielmolinar8669]

I have never noticed the difference tbh

[@PippinderJung]

need APU for top tier tanks

[@redshift0433]

I think damage to the turret ring can affect the speed

[@user-wk7yb1cr1k]

근데 예시로 나온 두 전차 모두 끔찍하게도 느린 회전의 대표격...

[@ThePunisher267]

Pvkv IV with red gunner.

[@nelsoncheng2674]

SD gundam again

[@KlaweKlapki]

Most ww2 spaa have crank

[@lazysloth9060]

I have hand cranked turrets before and it suuuuuuuuuuckkkks. Nice add to the game.

[@thethyphoon.]

Nice finnally fixed

[@sayorisione8868]

M56 scorpion

[@noraneko8926]

Did Porsche Tiger also have Manual Crank turret?

[@williambeisel5686]

I believe so, as it had the same turret as the hensel design but it did have neutral steering which aided in the practice of rotating the whole tank to compensate for the lack of traverse speed on the turret

[@STHV_]

Assuming you are referring to the Tiger 1 (H) and Tiger 1 (P) the Tiger P was built for electric drive and as such used a pure electric turret traverse, the Henschel design used an electro-hydraulic system. Just about every tank with a powered traverse has a manual backup.

[@noraneko8926]

@@STHV_ Did they have same turret traverse speed? I somehow feel the Porsche is a bit slower

[@STHV_]

​@@noraneko8926 No, the electric only traverse drives in the Porsche Tigers were slower than the hydraulic ones in the Henschel Tigers as the Henschel Tigers had an additional hydraulic assist driven by a connection to the driveshaft under the turret basket. This assist was tied to engine RPM but this isn't modelled in WT, all tanks with this system traverse at full speed no matter the RPM of the engine. Tiger (P) - 8°/second Tiger (H) - 12°/second at 3000 RPM Tiger (H) mid/late production - 14°/second at 3000 RPM

[@noraneko8926]

@@STHV_ Thanks~

[@RDC9038]

뭐야 이사람 한국사람이였음?

[@buddette5513]

hi

[@user-fe7bo5mm1o]

every 60 seconds a minute passes in africa. this shit is obvious

[@user-gj8yz7wk4m]

run out of ideas?

[@WyattRCworld]

27s ago

[@khaoshazard5884]

Wow I'm early early

[@coughfee1416]

Panther D's Turret Traverse is well, pitiful, absolutely utter garbage, this thing made me despise it for a well before getting the Panther A. Panther A is way better lmao.

[@abcchocolate0405]

1

[@_VORT3X_.]

My turret traverse rate after the commander dies 💀