Battle - Eon II - SMT V

Music by: Ryota Kozuka

[@dou5397]

Really glad they buffed Lucy in Vengeance, really makes this theme shine way more

[@Darkyan97]

Right? So much better now that Morning Star is actually a legit threat.

[@GanonAutumn777]

​@@Darkyan97it geniunely caught me off guard the first time i fought transcended lucifer in CoV and I love it

[@davidalvarez5659]

@@GanonAutumn777 What? Can you face his final form? I did Tao's route and I just faced his standard form with the boring music.

[@GanonAutumn777]

@@davidalvarez5659 yes Maybe there is a stibulation u need to do but in all my CoV playthroughs i fought Transcended Lucifer and he was level 99 TO BE FAIR... ive done Shiva beforehand so maaaaaybe u need to do Shiva,Khonsu,amanozako and fionn quests? Not sure tho since i did these in CoV as i went through for exp and getting demons to fuse But i only did these quests for my first playthrough and still got transcended lucifer in playthroughs i didnt so im not 100% sure

[@illusive-mike]

@@GanonAutumn777 That's consistent with the way True Neutral works in CoC/the original release. As long as you're able to fuse Amanozako, Khonsu, Fionn, and Shiva, you get to challenge Transcendent Lucifer. On the one hand, a bit of a dick move gating him behind secret conditions. On the other hand, the way they buffed him it makes some sense to hold him back from level 80 players who just cleared the main content and nothing else.

[@nagiku99]

I love how much this song sounds like something straight out of SMT 4 with a slight updated twist to it.

[@shashurimagrease2890]

This is one of those tracks that grows on you the more you listen, and then you realize it's the S tier you've been missing out on.

[@Antasma1]

This song perfectly gives off the feeling of high existentialism

[@RpgmaniacNo1]

This track characterizes the series so much.......

[@JackFrostAegirine]

This track is incredibly undersold ingame. The drums for this are actually the background melody of The Final Battle from SMT 3 Nocturne, and it also has the same musical motifs from Battle Daat and Human demons and... as well as the fact Eon I is actually meant to simply be the intro to Eon II, and the transition from Eon I to Eon II really makes it shine, but True Dark Lucifer needing Shiva, and you on average being over leveled for Lucifer really kills the great atmosphere there could have been.

[@NeoCoyote]

I thought I was one of the only few who picked up on this

[@dou5397]

I seriously don't understand why to have this fight you need to beat Shiva who has a higher level, like it's something so basic there's no way they didn't realize the absurdity of it

[@dantemustdie00]

Yeah that was a really outright bizarre design decision, this is Lucifer at his mightiest, but needing to beat Shiva to do this is just not needed

[@aidanfaller5855]

In the beginning of the game Aogami describes Lucifer as the most powerful demon ever. Turns out he’s 6 levels under Shiva

[@Uooooooooooooh]

After you beat him his "robotic" shell should have cracked open and revealed another form for the "true final boss" that's lvl 95 like maybe a throwback to his original angel form (Helel)

[@GenericSeal]

dude with blue hair and pronounce and the same English VA as Shinji Ikari beats the shit out of Lucifer on your switch

[@lunalucifer6669]

shinji vs grandpa max

[@Antasma1]

@@lunalucifer6669 Lol

[@xandymasamune]

Now on better platatorfms

[@whoeveritisicannot]

now dude with blue hair and pronounce also beats the shit out of... what the fuck WAS that boss in the new ending? on your PC

[@dantemustdie00]

A damn shame that Lucifers level only goes up to 90, considering the only way to even fight his 2nd and 3rd phases requires you beating Shiva who's WAY harder, I would've at least boosted his level up to 95 or 99.

[@obliviousobserver187]

He is level 95 on his 2nd and 3rd phase, if I'm not wrong.

[@user-ed4ed5ju8r]

ngl you could just do the same with with lucifer from smt4apoc by literally putting his level over the cap, like lvl 120 or something like that

[@kichiroumitsurugi4363]

@@user-ed4ed5ju8r Lucifer in IVA did not go above the level cap, as he is Level 75 during the YPR fight, and Level 90+ during the YHVH Universe fight. Satan is the one who goes to Level 120

[@deifieddata4462]

He should have been the super boss and Shiva should have been his warmup

[@cheecanpeecan1838]

Hell, breaking the level cap and putting him beyond level 99 could've worked since he's Lucifer AFTER taking God's powers and becoming self aware to an extent You'd think that's enough to warrant a level 110 or something

[@meedogh9378]

Imo all of the 3 alignment boss battles should've been level 90, and Lucifer should've been level 100, a level that's not obtainable by the player.

[@kichiroumitsurugi4363]

Honestly, the alignment bosses being around Level 80 is fine, just Lucifer needs the level buff and a higher HP pool

[@UnifiedGod777]

Vengeance would like a word with you-

[@tronmerncutsman]

what an incredible track also wtf 2:34 is the Lord of Chaos motif that was in phase 1 too

[@egghamilton7205]

ye its the galactic-sounding "bee-boo-beebee-boop" towards the end of phase 1's loop

[@szkieleton]

slow burner for sure, around the 5th attempt it starts to get its hooks into you, motivatingly stressful, yet beautiful

[@samza9233]

Sounds magical, I love it.

[@soberclover1233]

that warbly synth at 1:08 is the same synth that the main menu for smt IV uses. Im probably reaching a bit

[@UnifiedGod777]

I mean, it is the same composer but I doubt it was an intentional thing, it just happened more or less.

[@RpgBlasterRpg]

This really need a Remix/Remaster for SMT: 5 Vengeance

[@UnifiedGod777]

Why fix what isn’t broken?

[@dou5397]

The more i listen to this the more i love it

[@skyFxd]

Best final boss theme in the series

[@pkmist2164]

YHVH Phase 2 would like a word

[@LiterallyWhoLmao]

@@pkmist2164 literal remix of the battle theme SMT IV Apocalypse battle theme btw. The boss themes in SMT Imagine OST are far better than that lmfao

[@tomatopawah6877]

TDE Lucifer says hi

[@del4028]

This an "Evil Incarnated" or "Enemy of God" whichever you prefer to name last battle theme from IV Apocalypse (and Stephen battle theme)

[@PenguinsAreColdish]

factual

[@kieranray5340]

It's a real shame that to get this track, you have to beat Shiva, meaning you absolutely stomp the endgame. If there is a V Maniax, the endgame as a whole needs adjusting, but this fight in particular needs to be much, much harder. The dude has surpassed God and I shat all over him.

[@GlutenSensitivityReader]

He didn't surpass God. God trolled him and made "you".

[@dou5397]

@@GlutenSensitivityReader late but no, Luci wanted, god didnt

[@garryrptr]

We'll see about this in a few months.....

[@Gato-be2jr]

Goodhood is yours to claim along with your vengeance!

[@edenontheair4168]

I'm glad they reworked the endgame fully, at least now the full Lucifer fight is actually harder than Shiva

[@zaqareemalcolm]

1:08 lucifer bloopin

[@keerthiannadorai4412]

Interesting enough the more I think about it there may be a way to make it to the true final boss without overleveling to fight Shiva. All you have to do is use a herald on your team and save the magatsuhi meter to use God's shield when Shiva charges his magatsuhi. Granted it would probably make physical builds take longer in the fight but it can bring some challenge to the bosses after it. I have not tested this myself since I don't have the energy to replay through the whole game from scratch, so this was just some theoretical food for thought.

[@JackFrostAegirine]

You can beat Shive at LV80. People have done it. If you do, the lowest level you could be for True Dark Lucifer is 87 since Shiva gives you 5 Level Ups. and all the other bosses in the Empyrean will net you another 2 Levels.

[@OrionEJ]

I love SMT V, but that design oversight is so massive, the fact that you have to go out of your way to make bosses hard, because if you go so much as 6 levels above they will be significantly easier. In other games even if you were a high level, it did not mean you couldn't die to something lower leveled, it just meant you had more stats, and more hp, and more damage. All that added up to making leveling a nice way to show progression and get more powerful, or gain access to new crucial demons. Whereas now leveling needs to be in a fine balance to be able to enjoy everything that the game has, and have some sort of challenge. If they make a final edition of SMT V, it could very well be the best smt game by far. If you look at the difference between smt iv, and iv apocalypse. In my opinion, smt iv apocalypse is better than the original, but both are great games. An smt v final could fix everything that v did wrong, while improving upon the system. I really hope they decide to go that route, instead of just working on smt vi for 10+ years. i wouldn't be mad if they reused assets, because its all for the sake of letting them develop and change what needs to be changed, because smt v needs some fixing.

[@LiterallyWhoLmao]

@@OrionEJ and fix the story too. Dont forget that. The story nearly contradicts itself at every turn. But this post is a mood.

[@HowIin]

@@LiterallyWhoLmao Agreed

[@JRPGLOVER]

Well, if you really want to fight Lucifer without being overleveled, you can just start Newborn NG+, and re-fuse the demons without using compendium saved lv99 ones. Since you already beat Shiva in previous playthrough on same save file, the path to True Ending Lucifer is unlocked by default.

[@PugO.]

Good song. Ridiculously easy final boss. Even if was harder it wouldn't be that amazing, it's just Lucifer again but metal and less huge.

[@FungalFury]

For one he was still fairly difficult on hard, it's just that they failed to make him close to shiva.

[@lixaxil4517]

@@FungalFury I went on hard , underleveled on purpose. I wasn't even doing an underlevel run , but for the last dungeon I did. Only Zeus was a problem. All the others were easy. And Lucifer the worst offender I was like nope, won't equip special resistances in my affinities and won't cover my demons weaknesses, neither will change demons in battle. Then I was like critical aura, omatogoki savage, murakumo and ... Over 8000 in damage which is like a third of its total hp already. He is easy even if limiting yourself on purpose

[@Squiddy0912]

@@lixaxil4517 he was somewhat difficult for me, but I was doing a dark - ice build so *shrug* EDIT: I should clarify I never saw Phase 2 because I went Chaos

[@Nebulasinbloom4]

@@FungalFury if I learned anything from playing video games, it’s that the optional bosses are harder.

[@camharkness]

@@FungalFury I mean, that can be said about any rpg and the super bosses. The lingering will in kingdom hearts 2 is harder than any other boss in the game. The twins in persona 5 are harder than the final boss of p5. So on so on. It's just a rpg thing.

[@Teriaaaan]

3:02 NOT THE FUCKING TELEBOMB SOUND FROM BOTW

[@antoniocisneros8753]

Track: Mutated Emperor Ing - phase 3 Battle

[@lfvgamerbro]

Sick boss fight ngl, he was fun to fight, but Nocturne was better, despite him having 2 press-turns 💀

[@kichiroumitsurugi4363]

Both versions had him with 2 Press Turns, but Nocturne Luci had a much more damaging moveset

[@Gato-be2jr]

@@kichiroumitsurugi4363 and he had the eye skills that gave him press turns

[@gabrielbalderrama2002]

:)