Battle: Honda Civic Type R (FK8) VS 2018 Subaru WRX Sti Comparison | Which is Better?

[@4uto_4ddict]

Just recently had my selection between these two vehicles. I thoroughly test drove both. I think I might be one of the VERY FEW in the world who preferred the STI. Something about it made me smile slightly more than the CTR. Both vehicles are great and appreciate both. Excellent AWD Boxer Rumble Aftermarket support is enormous Steering feel More of an old-school "RAW" feeling Prefer analog gauges over 'Playstation/Xbox' digital gauges in CTR Color scheme (I got the Hyper.Blue) Prefer less aggressive bolstering on seats Just my .02

[@fastnfurious29]

I just went through this. The not being able to test drive the type r sealed it for me. Was always a honda guy, had a 99 Si and loved that car. Very happy with my 2020 STI though.

[@amirmajid1366]

I have the fk8 type R and have driven the wrx sti. The Subaru has an amazing old school feel, amazing 4wd, not the easiest clutch on the planet but great for enthusiasts. The CTR is amazing, less lag, miles cheaper to run as well (the STI fuel consumption is dreadful in comparison to the modern hot hatches, and generally cheaper to maintain than the sti too). Overall, the STI is a niche car which will appeal to the few remaining old school enthusiasts, but the CTR is the overall better car and easier to live with

[@johncortez277]

Just bought a 2019 type R white. It’s in transit and will be here April 13 2019

[@wastedtalent1625]

Im about to pick one up, did you end up liking it?

[@m00hk00h]

I used to own a 2015 WRX STI and traded it in for the Type R. I only miss 4 things: Allwheel launches, the boxer sound and the feel of the hydraulic power steering and the defined bite of the clutch. Everything else is better in the Type R IMO. Better engine, better transmission, better seats, better electronics and driver assistance systems (mind you, German Type Rs get top of the line Civic specs). The Type R is quiter on the Autobahn and takes way less fuel just cruising. Oh and the Hoda didn't break down on me twice within 10K miles. Yeah I'm still salty about it. STI was fixed under warranty (together about 15.000€ in parts and labor on the new motors) but it just didn't feel the same after. You start to question every little quirk and noise. And the noise of a loose rod rattling on the crank still haunts me in my dreams. I had to get rid of it at that point and do not regret getting the Type R at all. Especially since it's so much cheaper...

[@chung729chung]

Mathieu Morin have u own one before?

[@m00hk00h]

@Mathieu Morin Pretty much the unluckiest person, I guess. Everyone at Subaru and every dealer/service partner I dealt with had rarely seen an STi break down this way. I loved the car and always treated it nicely. It was driven hard at times but was always given enough time to warm up and cool down, service was done generous and only high quality liquids were used. I did not cheap out. Also notice that I don't say STIs suck or they are unreliable. Just that my personal experience with one was not the greatest. Big difference. However I still like the CTR better overall but I would have never even test driven a CTR if the STI hadn't broken down twice and I would still be driving the STI today and I'd be happy doing so.

[@antmoney4590]

I have a 9th gen SI. And I’m debating which car should I upgrade to. As a daily car also something to build on as well .

[@antmoney4590]

You’ll still stick with the Honda ?

[@markdlc0805]

typeR has a better transmission than the sti? idoubt that...

[@iwannatalktosampson]

Wait. You think the STi has turbo lag? It literally has one of the smallest and fastest spooling turbos on any production car. Here's the thing. People get confused when it comes to the STi's acceleration, because of how smooth it is. I have seen countless people reviewing cars say even though the STi accelerated faster than the other car, it felt like it accelerated slower, because the acceleration is so smooth it doesn't feel like you're going fast. The STi's are at full boost at like 3,000 RPM, maybe 3,500 in the newer models. If you're trying to do a full out acceleration below 4,000 RPMS, you're not driving any cars properly. I've owned my own shop for 18 years, and build track cars from everything from old school muscle, European, to import tuners. The STi has the best starting platform out of any 4cyl import. The reason I don't compare it to cars like the Stinger, is because those cars, as in the top models, have way bigger engines, and the most important part, more cylinders. I'd still take an STi over a GT2 Stinger any day of the week. There's literally stock block STi's running 9 second 1/4 mile times. People that don't know any better think their engines are weak, when they are way stronger than other engines out there. The whole ringland thing wasn't because of weak ringlands. Actually, the ringlands were the strongest out of almost all production cars in the world. What had the ringlands failing was detonation, causing 2 detonation per combustion stroke. 1 was proper det, and the other happened mid cylinder and at an angle, causing the piston to get pushed into the side wall, rather than being forced straight down. I've personally seen Type R's get walked by STi's from a roll, and obliterated from a dig. The Type R's run the 1/4 in 13.9, at best, with a 102.5 trap. Even the newer heavier STi's run the 1/4 in 13.3 at 105. The older 04-05 STi's with a really good driver ran the 1/4 in 12.8 at 105, or with decent drivers between 13.0-13.1 at 104-105. Most comparisons done usually are by biased people, or someone that sucks at driving an AWD car. Even on a road course, the STi with a proper driver will eat up the Type R. However, if you have an everyday driver behind the wheel, or someone not familiar with a sticky AWD car, the Type R will eat up the STi. From the factory, the WRX and STi are made for offroad racing, and not racing on super gripy asphalt. So, in order to drive them fast on asphalt, you have to know how to break it loose a bit in the corners. Most cars now days are built to do everything for you, rather than the driver being in control. The STi, while they started to give more driver assist features, are driver controlled cars. You get the first STi's in the states, as in the 04-05 model, and that's the closest you'll get to complete driver control, just like the old McLaren F1, except obviously with a smaller engine and not as much power. Also, if you're in north America, and that is supposed to be a US Spec STi, I have bad news for you. They didn't make the US Spec STi in the bugeye form. So, the car you are driving is a modified WRX that is made to appear as an STi. In fact, there are zero left hand drive bugeye STi's in the entire world. In those year models, which was 02 and 03, they only made bugeye STi's in other countries, and they were all right hand drive. Someone lied to you. But, I believe you showed 2 different Subaru's in the video. But, like I said, the newer STi's are heavier, but still trap the same speed as the older one's, just about 0.2-0.3 seconds slower in acceleration. I'll take this "review" for what it is, which is a novice comparing two cars and not really knowing what they are talking about. Don't take it as an insult. Even popular car reviewers like motortrend and car and driver suck at reviewing cars because they have drivers who just flat out don't know how to drive certain types of cars. I even consider them novices in the car world, because they base things from their results, rather than results that happen when a proper driver is behind the wheel.

[@TheJDM626]

I bought a 2020 STI > Type R no regrets. Type R is only great in turns only thats it. My STI AWD, I can go to the snow, dirt, etc. Rumble noise exhaust, adventure car

[@TheTheDominator]

I think it’s worth noting that the STI still ran the port injection platform where virtually every other turbo on the market runs direct injection meaning you’ll have more maintenance with carbon build up in the long run

[@CyberrJunky]

Here is 0-60 numbers as per MotorTrend: WRX-STI : 0-60 in 4.6 Type R : 0-60 in 5.7

[@galacticmaui2]

The type R's numbers are all over the place on 0-60, looking online you can find numbers anywhere from 4.8 secs to 5.9 secs. The launch would be tricky on the CTR considering it's front wheel drive. STI should be faster in 0-60 regardless but the type R tends to be quicker in 1/4 mile considering it keeps power throughout the rev range.

[@cesarayala4724]

I own a subaru sti 18. I respect every enthusiast. Im not a huge fan of hondas. But they have a really cool cars like honda prelude and the Nxs those for me are the best hondas to drive and have fun. The new type R looks cool. I never have the opportunity to drive it. But i think honda do a good job with the car.

[@gracie7257]

Here in Canada WRX STI drives normal on 6inches of Snow..

[@xFlared]

I'm pretty sure STI is like the best sedan on the market for snow globally. Full time AWD and manual diff control for very lose surface.

[@c.mokicks5461]

AWD is good to have in situations when you need it. STI seems to be more customizable. Gives owners their own special touch... no two are alike. Definitely better sounding exhaust/engine. The STI would sell better than CTR since they are more available. In addition the dealers are marking up the price which may impact sells negatively. Now the CTR is probably more reliable. Better looking (in my opinion). More versatile being a hot hatch... the red seats look way better! Infotainment system is probably better from what I hear Subaru needs to improve their set up. At the end of the day if I could have both I would. I love both and own neither. Lol

[@FlyinGato]

very good points!

[@psychojock]

What about on a gravel track and snow, theres no comparison with the cars that's why it's always STI for me.

[@kitbosworth]

🙏Amen, it's called life not in a city like most of the nation.

[@basithph8958]

I like the WRX but I love the Type R An Evo would be awesome tho(RIP)

[@kellyskad5295]

Same 🤣🤣

[@raymondmorales3869]

Still deciding which One to get 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@MstrSHAKE87]

Im on the same boat. Cant decide. Im a subaru fanboy also. But ive owned Hondas. A ek hatch and a prelude. Not sure what to do either

[@suhailinayatulla652]

Honda, Subaru is overatted, get a unique car, not a mass produced car.

[@prince_sach50]

Ikr one of these will be my next car but I'm still deciding

[@wastedtalent1625]

just got approved for both but I cant decide. Did you end up getting one over the other

[@FlyinGato]

Get the R

[@gravityhammer25]

I currently have a 17 STI and 19 Type R think i'm going to sell the STI becuase i'm tired of all the heavy shifting, and overall heavy feel of everything. It actually is exhausting to drive an STI. The Type R has a way better interior, more stable and better crusing on the highway, better seats, faster from a roll and I actually like the Type R sound better I can't wait until my Milltek exhaust comes in for the Type R :) ...I will miss the AWD, but it does not peform better than the Type R, I actually find myself trying to attack corners like I do in the Type R and the STI just cannot do it.

[@hectoraguirre831]

Currently looking at both. I have a ‘16 awd HRV as my daily driver so this will be a second car for pure enjoyment. Overall I’m leaning towards the type R. It just seems like a better buy rn. Hopefully by the time I pay it off, Subaru will have a new STI that’s worked out the new gen kinks and I can enjoy one then. I just love these cars so much 😌

[@elisrios76]

This channel has become one of my favorites things to watch after driving my FK8 from work to home on Fridays!

[@FlyinGato]

awesome! happy you're enjoying it Elis!

[@poolplexer]

I agree with the analog gauge cluster. Digital not as good. But I'm 40. So I'm old school also lol

[@jay1738a]

I’m also struggling picking which one to get because I love the subie hatchback but that’s not available anymore so out of luck there and the civic type r is a hatch too. Only thing that’s good for the subie side is more sources of aftermarket parts and also much cheaper than aftermarket parts for the type r. An exhaust is like 2k for the type r sheeesh

[@anthonyhernandez1953]

hmmm Sti has that awd but damn exterior wise and interior i rather go with the type r , i did not like the type r much at first but it grew on me and now i appreciate how aggressive and sporty it is ,

[@VQ25DETT]

I traded in 18 sti for my CTR. I understand everything you said in the video. In terms of driving dynamics and performance I prefer the CTR as it is easier to drive fast and much more nimble. It is also a much better as a daily. I do have some things I miss tho. The noise and vibration of the boxer engine is just something I can't get on any other car. The rawness of it is just so special, although that's what makes it such a terrible daily car lol Recaro seats on the STI is actually really nice. I personally prefer that over my CTR seats. I love the type R part of my CTR but not the civic part. That's why I sometimes miss my sti. I would still choose CTR over STI without even thinking, but Civic vs Impreza? Different story.

[@ricardopr54]

You will regret having done that! That civic will depreciate really fast the STI wil not, plus it is a car with a lot of good reputation...

[@DBABAE]

ricardopr54 there’s a type r here in FL with 30k on the odometer selling for 34k at a dealer. These type Rs are going to go up in price, if anything

[@ricardopr54]

@@DBABAE Really, well that dealership made up that ridiculous price tag for a SUPER HIGH MILEAGE car... Go buy it.. I bet that you'll only get MAYBE another year of warranty and that's it... You'll be on your own with that car...

[@DBABAE]

ricardopr54 I would never! I won’t let the stealership do me like that haha! There’s a brand new one here also for 38k after markup which is respectable and a much better buy

[@ricardopr54]

@@DBABAE Exactly! That dealership is crazy!... Go get the new one instead!... I'll keep my 2018 STI Limited Edition and maybe trade it in if the all awaited 2020 one will be as nice as they predict!... Will see... Good luck with your new Type R if you decide to get it👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾

[@khvidtube1617]

STi is in "sleep mode". Wait til it wakes up with the 400 HP version in 2021.

[@victortitulo3433]

There isn't and won't be a 400 HP version. Not in 2021 or 2030.

[@Lsutton04_]

Just tune one you already have and add a bigger turbo and better fuel injection and a decent tune

[@pinunotv6002]

Sti because of the legacy of subaru in rally gives me a good feeling.. much handsome

[@MoMo-ve7yq]

Check the difference of the boost??and the $$ ,,I’m taken STi all years long.

[@isetfire13]

Nice review. Keep in mind that an STI is designed for rally and the Type R is designed for a track. Sti definitely needs a redo though!

[@kitbosworth]

I completely agree. This video is for young kids that live in the southern states. This would be a completely different video If instead of mentioning track performance mentioning living in adverse weather & then kicking ass 😆

[@vstillman1]

Type r in my area are all listed at 50k. Even used.

[@CSIG1001]

The reason honda will always make better sport cars and engines than subaru is because Honda was the first to pioneer the motorcycle engine . The first complete motorcycle, with both the frame and engine made by Honda, was the 1949 D-Type, the first Honda to go by the name Dream. Honda Motor Company grew in a short time to become the world's largest manufacturer of motorcycles by 1964. ... Its chain-driven rear wheels pointed to Honda's motorcycle origins. Unlike Honda... Toyota ,mazda , hyndai , kia , need to bring in Bmw, subaru, and yamahah to help build a proper engine or transmission . A prime example is the new supra , the transmission is practically BMW, the celica GTS yamaha helped with that engine as well. , Scion FRS

[@michaelcooley8275]

Why do you say that Honda makes "Sports Cars"? They don't actually except for a few limited production vehicles here and there that are cancelled in a few years. They can't give away the new NSX. Honestly if you wanted to be a "Sports Car Company" you would always make a sports car and keep that name going where by it creates a brand. Porche, Corvette, Mustang, Camaro, BMW M. Do you ever see a Honda "Sports Car" for sale on Mecum Auctions??? 10 years from now you won't be able to find a nice low mileage Stock Type R and that is because nobody ever associated that name with something that endures the test of time. Face it, Honda is a Civic or an Accord and that is about it.

[@raulvasquez807]

@@michaelcooley8275 yeah a Honda integra type r sold for 60k

[@cyruspark6472]

It's impossible to find a Type R or Honda manuals in general around UT & CO. So I support Subaru all the way now, you can get STIs here for 36k easy. I feel like Honda gave up on fun cars for too long.

[@jetskifisherman9214]

Cyrus Irunthispark what? Type R only come in manual. So you’re either lying or looking at Civic SI and not Type R

[@cyruspark6472]

@@jetskifisherman9214 No shit, how many do they make, not many? Also, I said the market near CO, and I said there are a lack Honda manuals in GENERAL. I agree they MAY be making more civic manuals now, but they totally abandoned that market, they way Subaru never did.

[@gladdy02]

You forget the big fuel economy difference

[@IngE02]

How does one negotiate an out the door price? Like what does it mean exactly? Before of after tax? Also... Gato have you considered a bov for your Type R? I have one on my Sport Hatch, and I love it

[@FlyinGato]

no, I have to fix the heat issues first. Negotiating - you pit different dealers against each other.

[@emissarygw2264]

Make sure you look up KBB prices. Tell the dealer you know what KBB value is and ask for a quote including all fees/taxes. Repeat at multiple dealers and ask them to beat each others quotes.

[@paulstabin6233]

So would you take an SI over a WRX (non-STI)? Just to look at the next step down for both models?

[@FlyinGato]

That's a good question, I'd probably take the WRX, but I have to do a real comparison to know

[@Sando_Brown]

I have recently had to make this decision and the STI was the choice for me. The reason i chose the STI was due to the feel of the car and the fact that the mechanical feeling of the car cant be beat with so many cars going to electronic steering. If i could have the "RAW" feeling in the CTR i would pick it all day. but when driving the STI it pushes the driver skill to get the most out of it. Just test driving both is really not enough to get the feel for the STI or the CTR. 2 months of driving the STI and it feels like a completely different car than when i first drove it. Main pro for the STI is the steering hands down. (also i know since the engine is old and has a lot of Research and development behind it modding the STI will be a breeze and parts will be cheaper.) Main pro for the CTR everything else is great but the steering. CTR would be great if you don't prefer heavy steering all the time. the CTR comfort etting makes turning and steering like a video game maybe easier. both great cars and manual transmission cars should be supported to show people still want them.

[@jvazquez7160]

Why did you shake the steering wheel like that like it needs ball joints

[@FlyinGato]

I was seeing how the steering feel was

[@mrjjthor]

I'd take the Civic Type R over the STI anyday.

[@prince_sach50]

same

[@academiaengineering5136]

There is an sti hatchback as well

[@Probably347]

Great news! STI is getting revamped! New engine, more horsepower, different look etc.

[@leoolivares3261]

This is amazing this sti will be cheaper :)

[@psewgobind]

Seems like 4WD is no longer the default configuration for fun. Have you seen the reviews on the RWD G70? Might make a good replacement for the bimmer... That car looks like it'll age well.

[@rifraff1000]

I love my FK8 am a Honda fan alll the way, they will rerelease an Acura integra type r and is coming out in a alll wheel drive!!! They say!!!!

[@enriquemartinez8915]

Rafael Suarez if it comes in all wheel drive and manual transmission with at least 22 or more mpg with the type r or type s spec than I’ll take it any day which will easily eliminate the wrx sti and civic from my list of potential of buying!!

[@idotdotdot]

Hows the sound system in the type r? Im a huge music lover and one of the key deciding point for me would be the bass.

[@poolplexer]

That's a good question and one I've been trying to get an answer to as well

[@raulvasquez807]

Depends on what you listen to currently. Compared to other high end OEM stereos its average. Coming from a car with super basic radio it's awesome. I would change the sub to something better though.

[@lifeinthewhiskeys6144]

Why would having more comfortable seats be better than long lasting seats

[@derrickfritts9245]

But you forgot to mention just with a simple tune and a exhaust your pushing like 350 hp in the Subaru witch would smoke the type r

[@mattyee9369]

Sti. Cant drive the civic in the snowy mountain roads without chains or cables, and they dont make Subies put them on. Its one thing to drive in Nebraska where its flat. But the mountains here, awd is superior in hilly curvy roads, snow and ice. Not to mention rain, dirt, etc. And they are incredibly safe. I like the analog guages better too. Saying the sti hasnt changed the engine is stupid. Also, its like complaining Porche hasnt changed its engine deisng, its a boxer, the fact the design is simple makes it easy to work on. 20 minutes you can pull the motor. Sti has a stiffer suspension than the R. It's designed for track and rally.

[@vallasjo8003]

Great observation gato!

[@4rct1c9Ic3m4n]

It's easy to decide what to get. Get MLS head gasket

[@comeconcon569]

The big three Japanese automakers are Toyota, Honda and Nissan, and they have a luxury line of vehicles.

[@ernierivera9565]

Hey man love the videos. I do have a question for you and anyone else that’s willing to share some advice. I have an 08 stock SI and I’ve had it for about 6 months now and I’ve only ever owned manual transmission vehicles but I feel like I’m not up to par with driving them “properly”. I don’t stall or beat on my car but I feel that I’m not driving it the smoothest it should be. I do still jerk sometimes when trying to get up to speed or feel like I’m riding the clutch every so often. I’m not 100% sure when is the perfect time to shift and how fast or slow to release the clutch. Anyone have any tips for me?

[@FlyinGato]

Honestly just keep driving, you have to get the right feel from the car and that only comes with practice

[@poolplexer]

Its feel. Its not a science. Keep driving. You'll get to know the car and how she bahaves. When the time comes, you"ll just shift naturally without even thinking about it. I drive truck, CDL with HAZMAT, and manual Accord and soon to be 2019 type r champ white in production as of Dec 16th. Truck is easier to drive. You can float the gears after 1st without using the clutch. Cars have sychncronized gears, so u need to use the clutch. Although u can float the gears but i don't recomend it. Just drive the car. Ull find the balance between easing up on the clutch and feeding the throttle

[@marioquintero17]

I have always been a sti fan, but I saw all the features that the type r have and it's way better for less price and its look amazing

[@jetskifisherman9214]

Mario Quintero type R is no way costing less than STI.

[@prince_sach50]

@@jetskifisherman9214 yes

[@frozenchicken]

In Sydney, Australia where we have evos, S15, Bz, Skylines, Supras etc WRX is king. We have a few Type R's but most Civics in Australia are setup for Car Audio enthusiast rather than racers. It's a little weird that Americans put Type R's on the same pedestals as WRX's but then again the modding community in Sydney is huge so Type R's dont hold a candle to the modded WRX's.

[@renaldobryan1047]

Says a lot about honda that it out corners a awd car. Wonder how it's handling compares to the evo X

[@FlyinGato]

I've been beating Evo Xs every time I see them

[@Tychoe1]

Which dealer did you buy from?

[@Mr335iBMW]

The last two Type R that I saw at the dealership by my house in DFW was for $48k and they won’t unlock the doors to the car until after you sign.

[@Rob_Nasty]

$34k where i live

[@jameshuegli3534]

Rob where do you live?

[@midnightquest9758]

They have new STI for $35,500 at the dealership I go to . I need to try the Civic

[@FlyinGato]

Drive it!

[@boomerd513]

Except when you track the type r it overheats.

[@FlyinGato]

So does the Sti, any turbo car is going to have heat issues when pushed as hard as I push them. I'll very cautious when it comes to long term reliability of my cars, heat is the enemy to that

[@prince_sach50]

exactly

[@tavo.simracing]

100% CTR. now if it was just a show car that i’d take to look pretty maybe the STI

[@tylerlieberman3307]

Dumping the clutch on tarmac with diff locked at 50:50. Lol what a dingleberry.

[@FlyinGato]

Diff wasn't locked and I didn't exactly dump it 😉

[@nathanmacpherson2448]

I was thinking same thing you definitely had it locked in 50/50 which is for specifically for rough conditions. The - is what you wanted it in if you wanted to get a good feel for a pull experience in dry conditions. The diff is not designed to be ran around with 50/50

[@FlyinGato]

Was only in 50/50 for like 10 minutes of my two hour drive

[@knife_gun_axe9022]

Lol@dingleberry - dweeb can’t drive for sh!t

[@Trappedinnewyork]

Type r is a far superior car better engine, way better mpg,better transmission, faster especially at a roll, way less common aka will be worth more in the end

[@BobolovProductions]

Always hit that like button for ya😉👍🚗

[@FlyinGato]

Thanks bud!

[@usmcblade7682]

If they are so great around turns and what not, why would they not have them in Rally races????? Subaru also had the hatchback but they were not selling anywhere near as frequent as the Sedans so they stopped making the hatchbacks after a few years.......Price difference now a days is nothing as Honda has been increasing the price pretty much every year!

[@ahmadfaris8044]

If you live in a snowy area, just get an sti.

[@shahrozalijafri8816]

I would prefer an evo

[@FlyinGato]

I like Evos

[@mrwick7961]

err

[@aaronwilliamarce3521]

RIP Evo

[@poolplexer]

Well maybe in the land of Make believe, one day u will have a brand new Evo. Until then move on

[@theangelofspace155]

that was my dream car when I was growing up. my friend has a evo x and he still cant beat me. but one day I will get a evo, that would b my 4 wheel drive car.

[@aldwindj]

Can you drive a type r all year long in part of North America that has snow season?

[@FlyinGato]

Yup, made a video, Type R in the snow

[@aldwindj]

@@FlyinGato i mean canadian winter ? 5-10inch of snow min.

[@FlyinGato]

anything more than 6-7 inches you'll be in trouble with clearance

[@ΠασχάληςΤρυψανης-σ4ζ]

Sti to SLOWNLY AND THURSTY

[@academiaengineering5136]

El Honda Civic Type R es el mejor auto de todos que el Subaru sti

[@kazlee6253]

Heated seats does it for me

[@menswearhous]

what rims are those on the 18 sti?

[@pinunotv6002]

For now type r is a proxy to evo. But the real rival is evo vs sti the best fight.

[@cybercityoedo808]

I truthfully feel the Type R is better than both the STI and Evo. I have a Type R and I have an STI... Only reason I keeping my STI is for bad weather, everywhere else the Type R is better.

[@pinunotv6002]

@@cybercityoedo808 no. Type r can beat sti but nut evo. In your dreams

[@kitbosworth]

I have a new STI and I completely agree the Type R is ahead of the game except I live in the the rocky mountains & Subaru AWD kills Type R. Plus if you have kid's or have 4 people in the car the STI trunk is way better than the Type R hatch. That's why you really cannot have an opinion based video for everyone especially someone worried about track performance when everyone's lifestyle is really diverse.

[@FlyinGato]

Don't get me wrong I still love the Sti, I own a bugeye

[@kitbosworth]

I totally agree if you live in the city & want the fastest car. Honda is completely Legit I am an avid Honda fan. But the Honda sucks bad in snow which has allot to do with daily driving.

[@ooMatooo1]

Which one has a better feeling gearbox?

[@FlyinGato]

The Type R by far

[@F8TLCOWz]

Constructive Criticism. You didn't start talking for two minutes into the video. The edits waiting until that point were not cool. Needs more cinematic shots of the cars on the outside that you talk over in that intro. Video quality was meh, shots in the car were shaky. Did you stabilize in post production? Microphone quality, please find a good audio recording solution! Honestly, watch Gears and Gasoline, Dustin Williams, and take some notes on their shots, quality, and edits. I think you have potential and I'd love to see another channel doing stuff like this, but if you want to reach 50,000 subs your quality will have to change. Best of luck to you, thanks for making this video.

[@poolplexer]

Wow. Talk about a crazy person. This video was quality throughout. Respect the Gato. He's one man, not a production team

[@ricardopr54]

Who buys a performance car to drive it like a Prius!... Who wants to drive a silenced sport car! ... A truly sport car has to have power plus a mean sound... That civic is mute!... The Sti you were comparing in this video was the cheapest one... You should of compared that Civic to the Limited Edition STI with Recaro Seats and some more goodies than that Base model you used!... And one more thing, you are wrong by saying that the civic is faster than the STI... Civic Type R 0-60 = 5.8sec while WRX STI 0-60 = 4.5sec .... The STI retains its value better than the Civic, and it is also better looking... That Type R's back is an eye sore...

[@msalazar89]

Nothing an exhaust wont do to wake up the R. Stis aren't exactly loud stock

[@ricardopr54]

@@msalazar89 STIs are definitely louder than a Type R stock!

[@msalazar89]

@@ricardopr54 ya but who keeps either of those cars stock, noone!

[@ricardopr54]

@@msalazar89 Well, you has to until your warranty ends... After that, the sky is the limit...👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾

[@msalazar89]

@@ricardopr54 exhausts don't void warranty s bud

[@holidaeyy674]

I'l pick the new kid on the block type R..

[@BobolovProductions]

QUICK QUESTION.. Are firestone tires okay for driving daily in a sport hatchback?

[@FlyinGato]

Yeah as long as you don't use them in the winter

[@Jabbazuki]

I love the STI but WHY does the gas mileage SUCK SO BAD!!!! lol

[@bbehzadi413]

Sway bar upgrade on an STI goes a long way.

[@arielcamacho9490]

Bro you look like Al Capone

[@FlyinGato]

Thanks!

[@octurbojoe]

I have an STI. I hate the rumble. In fact, the unequal length header sucks ass. Throw in an equal length header with a tune and the powerband will change completely, even with a stock downpipe. 301whp easily attained. But no, 5hp gain and still with unequal length headers for 2018. All the rumble fuckbois think I'm dumb.

[@Rob_Nasty]

The type R is "vtech turbo"? Is this true...?

[@williamb1926]

Only on the exhaust

[@gonad244]

Vtech is a crappy phone company. You’re looking for vtec.

[@officialsticky5884]

Hey Elias, long time no see! So I have to ask...STI or RS? lol

[@FlyinGato]

RS!! How you been John?

[@officialsticky5884]

Things are good man, taking a bit of time off of KZbin to focus on school and the wedding. How's things with you bud?

[@FlyinGato]

Awesome! Hope your wedding goes well! I've been entirely too busy after starting my job back in July, it has been nuts! When you starting KZbin back up? How's the RS?

[@cjlsniper]

I’m a wrx sti guy, although all the Subaru dealerships near me are dicks, makes it a little rough trying to get one, I currently have a 2015 Audi Quattro which I love but I’m going to try and pick up a second wrx sti since my first one got totaled because a truck decided to run a red light and tbone me, although he hit me at 50 the sti took the hit and everyone ended up okay so I definitely trust my life in that car If something ever happens again

[@FlyinGato]

yea a lot of dealers are terrible, from all brands. I've had bad experiences at every brand, I always go out of my way to look for good dealers, like Honda of Hackettstown, or Gray Chevrolet

[@kjwong4730]

How did you pay only 37000 out the door? I paid 39000 for mine.

[@FlyinGato]

Called 40 dealers and got it for MSRP plus a couple of accessories

[@anthonyhernandez1953]

@@FlyinGato and thats how you avoid scams lol ima start doing that when i buy from a dealer again

[@FlyinGato]

Always!

[@rakkap4591]

Flyin gato Evo,Sti,or Type R?

[@FlyinGato]

Type R for sure

[@renaldobryan1047]

I still love the evo X. Sad it's gone

[@pinunotv6002]

Evo

[@diegoeleazar9154]

Type R best in "DAILY" and STI best in "RACING"

[@theangelofspace155]

Don King living in colorado, I still havent lose to one i the I-25. and trust me there are a lot here (this army guys lol).

[@filthyvibes4768]

Don King wring, type R are a longer racing history and performs better

[@cybercityoedo808]

On dry road/track a Type R will destroy an STI in all areas except launch. In wet weather/snow the STI will beat the Type R. I own both so I'm not biased, they are both great cars but CTR is the better performer in most situations. The CTR, handles better, is lighter, faster and even has more downforce. Feels more glued to thr road than the STI. 130mph+ in my STI is kind of sketchy... In the Type R you feel planted like a rock at speed.

[@almanu04]

I have a cla 45 amg and contemplating on getting a type r. Would it be a downgrade?

[@FlyinGato]

It's a downgrade in all aspects unless you're going to be using it at the track or as a canyon carver

[@almanu04]

Is it a steal if i get a 34k 2018 type r brand new eventhough its already 2019, or id rather get the 2019?

[@mengdynasty6034]

The people who are talking 0-60 times have no clue that the type r catches up and leaves them in the dust. LOL. Looking to get my type r come summer.

[@trebla8928]

And then you get caught by the cops

[@antoniocalimero1173]

Wait for rain and you 0-60 time is 10 sec :-) Subaru king of the road! The Honda look not mature.

[@GTB-yu2be]

Ain't gonna lie, so I gotta say I'm disappointed. Thought there was gonna be a race when I click on this

[@FlyinGato]

Sorry about that, I do race my Type R, but u I didn't have a second driver for some racing that day

[@argelcacayorin515]

Sti can go lake tahoe while snowing. Type R can't . That's the difference. Lake Tahoe too much STI or WRX thats for sure

[@joemazzurco8931]

If you would confront it with a evo x..the tables will turn my friend..😊

[@FlyinGato]

I do like Evos

[@martsmarts]

Analogue Gauges are still and only the best over digital. Digital gauges are so cheap looking. Nothing elegant, nothing raw and surely will have more long term issues or will age poorly over time.

[@josevaca9546]

Mid 90s NSX

[@FlyinGato]

I'm really thinking about that

[@msalazar89]

STI steering wheel in type r would be dope

[@FlyinGato]

I totally agree!

[@Tundra0128]

Type R is overpriced but so is the STI

[@FlyinGato]

yea I can agree with this

[@mk6_juan23]

Is this in maryland💀

[@Viktor9502]

The WRXs have so many issues. I'll stick with the Honda

[@danielvalenzuela514]

Gato the FOCUS RS ALWAYS BE #1

[@FlyinGato]

😁😁

[@acenday1437]

I’m sorry you’re way too old school for me .

[@Mike604]

You can’t modify anything on the civic type r because of the design, most of the ctr I see are all bone stock and all look the same exterior

[@poolplexer]

Do u smoke crack daily or on weekends only?

[@andrereid79]

@@poolplexer 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀

[@sLowRider114.]

People still buy STIs?

[@mrwick7961]

of course

[@andersonrodriguez8258]

Selling better than the Type R last three months sold more

[@sLowRider114.]

Anderson Rodriguez maybe cause theres a limited amount of ctrs?

[@4bvenom733]

I see people drive wrx sti come out of the car like they own 100,000 car...lol...that why they're cool

[@andrereid79]

@@4bvenom733 I might be one of those people you are talking about 😜

[@jvazquez7160]

Dude if you want to race race on the highway

[@FlyinGato]

I usually take it to the race track

[@Viralclips22833]

Like for Sti Dislike for Honda

[@upbeatmantis86]

79 sti fanboys🤙🏽

[@pinunotv6002]

Sti for the win