Battle of Coronel - Sundown in the Eastern Pacific

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Drachinifel

Drachinifel

4 жыл бұрын

Today we look at the first of two battles involving Admiral von Spee, the Battle of Coronel.
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@Drachinifel
@Drachinifel 4 жыл бұрын
Pinned post for Q&A :) Check out The Shipyard: kzbin.info/door/kYog1OMW5CzyvqirBQT2Mw
@MasterOfDickery
@MasterOfDickery 4 жыл бұрын
Drachinifel obvious question is obviously obvious but could hms Canopus have made a meaningful different or would spee have just declined combat.
@lordshipmayhem
@lordshipmayhem 4 жыл бұрын
Have we found the graves of either HMS Good Hope or HMS Monmouth?
@TheShipYard2
@TheShipYard2 4 жыл бұрын
@@lordshipmayhem negative, both ships have not been found unfortunately
@TankUni
@TankUni 4 жыл бұрын
Does the second narrator need a better microphone? The clarity of speech between him and Drachinifel is quite noticeable in that the second narrator's speech seems a bit 'tinny'? on second listening, i think the second narrator just needs to slow down a bit and try to be a bit more even in his inflection.
@TheShipYard2
@TheShipYard2 4 жыл бұрын
@@TankUni ive been trying a few ways to use the mic, and sometimes its been good, sometimes not. i feel i could have been better on the audio. but that will be improved for the next video hopefully. compared to the videos on my channel. the audio is better there.
@Scooternjng
@Scooternjng 4 жыл бұрын
Last time I was this early, Admiral Rozhestvensky still had a full supply of binoculars
@sovietdominion
@sovietdominion 4 жыл бұрын
I see torpedo boats
@Scooternjng
@Scooternjng 4 жыл бұрын
@@sovietdominion *curses in Russian and begins throwing said binos*
@weldonwin
@weldonwin 4 жыл бұрын
@@Scooternjng Half Naked Officer: Do you fear death my friends?
@onesec8005
@onesec8005 4 жыл бұрын
I heard he went to a turret so he could get better range with them. But the Japanese boarding cats did not waver... Mee. Yow. Indeed.
@jimtalbott9535
@jimtalbott9535 4 жыл бұрын
These cigarettes are opium - I must hoard them at all costs....
@andrew3203
@andrew3203 2 жыл бұрын
That Admiralty order to regroup with Canopus, arriving 2 days after their destination had sunk...truly an inspiration for Warhammer 40k, where this is their normal routine.
@anumeon
@anumeon 4 жыл бұрын
"The same as taking the Tardis back 65 million years to make sure that the dinosaurkilling asteroid landed on a perticularly vexing walnut." Now i've heard some analogies in my day. But this one really tops them all. :)
@douglasdaniel4504
@douglasdaniel4504 4 жыл бұрын
You can't let those walnuts get out of hand....
@roberthicks1612
@roberthicks1612 4 жыл бұрын
When he said that, I had a vision of the squirrel from the Ice Age movie series (the one that can never get that acorn to break open) stealing the tardis to put it under the asteroid only to have it knock the asteroid to another part of the planet.
@ieuanhunt552
@ieuanhunt552 4 жыл бұрын
Welcome to Drachinifel. That was a Drachism. He comes up with that sort of thing quite a lot. It's delightful.
@roberthicks1612
@roberthicks1612 4 жыл бұрын
@@ieuanhunt552 Took me a couple minutes to figure out what drachism was.
@jamesbrown4092
@jamesbrown4092 4 жыл бұрын
@@ieuanhunt552 I'm tempted to go back through all the videos in the channel, and compile a list of Drachisms. I think it would make quite an amusing read.
@oldgringo2001
@oldgringo2001 3 жыл бұрын
36:23 I just noticed that the 1,418 men who died in this 1914 battle exactly equaled in number the crew of HMS Hood when it sank in May 1941. There were three survivors from the Hood.
@vespelian5769
@vespelian5769 4 жыл бұрын
The two Sharnhorsts must be simultaneously the most southern and northern warship wrecks in the world, at least steel ones.
@s.31.l50
@s.31.l50 4 жыл бұрын
EFEZZE6280 you might be right here
@s.31.l50
@s.31.l50 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely for 2 ships under the same name
@benwilson6145
@benwilson6145 4 жыл бұрын
HMS Edinburgh is further north
@HemlockRidge
@HemlockRidge 4 жыл бұрын
@EFEZZE6280 aah yes, the light cruiser Phoenix.
@richardm3023
@richardm3023 4 жыл бұрын
@@HemlockRidge General Belgrano, AKA U.S.S. Phoenix, A Pearl Harbor survivor, sunk by a British Submarine, that was Built in the United States.
@bificommander7472
@bificommander7472 4 жыл бұрын
Heh, the last Drydock said there weren't any real insane captains. But chief engineers were another matter apparently.
@PaulfromChicago
@PaulfromChicago 4 жыл бұрын
I think that was generous on Drach's part. Captain Pigot on Hermione was probably certifiable. As was that guy on is that British transport shipping World War II whose name I can't find immediately That caused a mutiny on board.
@TheAsh274
@TheAsh274 4 жыл бұрын
@@PaulfromChicago Then there's the matter of the STRAWBERRIES...
@jarvisfamily3837
@jarvisfamily3837 4 жыл бұрын
St. Peter: "Sorry, but for the sinful life you've led you're going to have to spend quite a long time in purgatory!" Ex-navy officer: "Uh...back in my younger days I did a tour as Engineering Officer..." St. Peter: "Whoops. My bad. Pass, friend..." :-)
@panzerdeal8727
@panzerdeal8727 16 күн бұрын
There was one.
@panzerdeal8727
@panzerdeal8727 16 күн бұрын
Captain Nicholas Klado. Kamchatka
@Big_E_Soul_Fragment
@Big_E_Soul_Fragment 4 жыл бұрын
Ah, yes, Admiral von Spee's wild ride
@dehoedisc7247
@dehoedisc7247 4 жыл бұрын
Haf Kaf, Haaarump.
@Greystar2426
@Greystar2426 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, HMS Exeter.
@thomasvandevelde8157
@thomasvandevelde8157 4 жыл бұрын
Unleash the Beast!
@TheKingoftheKongs
@TheKingoftheKongs 3 жыл бұрын
I want to get off Admiral von Spee's wild ride
@Exodon2020
@Exodon2020 3 жыл бұрын
Right up there with Lützow's Wild hunt.
@admiraltiberius1989
@admiraltiberius1989 4 жыл бұрын
"Rats on LSD" 😂😂😂😂😂 Why do I feel like the Chief Engineer in question was pulling a full Apocalypse Now in his engine room. Running around naked, covered in engine oil and screaming incessantly. Maybe trying to sacrifice a random crewman to the Omnissiah. Fantastic video as always sir, I loved the collaboration. They are always enjoyable. On a more morbid note, I wonder when Cradock realized it was over. That he was going to die. Or did even get that chance. Same for the Officers and Sailors aboard Monmouth.
@Drachinifel
@Drachinifel 4 жыл бұрын
I have a feeling that's when Good Hope moved in to ram.
@admiraltiberius1989
@admiraltiberius1989 4 жыл бұрын
@@Drachinifel Hmmm I know he was doing his duty but you gotta wonder why he didn't try and strike his colors, allow some of his men to try and escape. At least give them a chance to live. Though a quick death in an ship that exploded vs dying of exposure in the ocean is a grim choice.
@rickansell661
@rickansell661 4 жыл бұрын
​@@admiraltiberius1989 Historically there have been several cases where it has proved impossible to strike colours for various reasons, from jammed halyards to it being certain death to approach a place from which they can be struck. Plus he may have realised that the sea was to rough for there to be any realistic chance of a rescue by the time he had exhausted all possibility of damaging the Germans (remember that damaging an enemy, even though he then defeats you, may set up his eventual defeat. This was one of the issues that led to Troubridge's Court Martial).
@admiraltiberius1989
@admiraltiberius1989 4 жыл бұрын
@@rickansell661 you are completely correct, I can't argue with that.
@davydovua
@davydovua 4 жыл бұрын
@@admiraltiberius1989 It actually makes me think he was actually killed beforehand, and those last-ditch-ramming actions were commanded by whatever surviving junior officers left on board, with burden of command in dire straits being a bit too much to them too handle.
@MendTheWorld
@MendTheWorld 4 жыл бұрын
The closing, with “Eternal Father, Strong to Save” was very nice. Quite touching.
@sadwingsraging3044
@sadwingsraging3044 4 жыл бұрын
I'm not crying, your crying!
@ONECOUNT
@ONECOUNT 4 жыл бұрын
It is just dust that got in my eye.
@dimasgirl2749
@dimasgirl2749 6 ай бұрын
I've sung that in church.
@nicholas209
@nicholas209 4 жыл бұрын
Incredibly minor nitpick here, but I don't think St. Thomas in the Caribbean should be listed as a German colonial possession. It belonged to the Danish for basically the entirety of it's European history, until the US bought it (and the rest of the US Virgin Islands) off them in 1917. The closest thing I could find to German ownership was a German company leasing a slave trading fort there from the Danes until 1693. Not that that's Drach's fault, he didn't make the map, but it's where I was born so I want to be obnoxiously precise about it.
@rogerhwerner6997
@rogerhwerner6997 4 жыл бұрын
We strive for precision here, and your comments are appreciated.
@thatsme9875
@thatsme9875 4 жыл бұрын
@@rogerhwerner6997 I agree, history must be correct ! well done Nicholas
@freebeerfordworkers
@freebeerfordworkers 4 жыл бұрын
I'd be interested to know the details of US acquisition of the Virgin Islands. I got the impression they made the Danes an offer they could not refuse. Do you have any information about this?
@DavidThomas-sv1tk
@DavidThomas-sv1tk 4 жыл бұрын
​@@freebeerfordworkers My (casual) recall is that the US acquisition of the "US" Virgin Islands from Denmark was related to a desire to protect the approach to the Panama Canal. An interesting artifact of that history is that it is (as far as I know) the only place in the world where left-hand-drive cars (US style because that's where the vehicles have long come from) drive on the left side of the road (English / 1917-era Danish practice). I've been in and driven in far more countries than the local drivers so it was with some amusement I heard their explanation for the situation. My understanding and experience is that you prefer to have the driver closest to the center of the road so you can see further around a curve and react sooner to an oncoming vehicle. But, locally, I heard from USVI cab drivers, during my two visits, that having left-hand-drive-cars (US style) on the left-side-of-the-road (Bristish style) was so, in a head-on collision (not an uncommon occurrence on those very curvy, narrow roads), the drivers were further from the points of contact. I nodded my head, tightened my seat belt, and tried not to distract the local driver.
@benjaminmiddaugh2729
@benjaminmiddaugh2729 4 жыл бұрын
@@DavidThomas-sv1tk Humans like to invent reasonable-sounding explanations for things, even if said explanations have no actual relationship to why the thing being "explained" is the way it is.
@captaccordion
@captaccordion 4 жыл бұрын
Great story to tell, and a worthy experiment having a co-narrator. Unfortunately, I found it difficult in the extreme to understand him, in part due to his diction, but probably in greater part due to his audio equipment.
@ELCADAROSA
@ELCADAROSA 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed ... it got to the point where I had to stop listening.
@ztoob8898
@ztoob8898 4 жыл бұрын
I must agree wholeheartedly. I had to give it up because it was giving me a headache. It sounded like he was speaking through a bad telephone connection with a malfunctioning auto-volume control that just kept ramping up and down.
@stanthology
@stanthology 4 жыл бұрын
I found it easier to understand the bloody foreigner by slowing down playback speed. (that's a joke by the way, so nobody has to seek safe spaces). Enjoyable episode by the way made so partly by the co-narrator.
@mysss29
@mysss29 4 жыл бұрын
ah...I assumed it was his accent eating all those words
@111doomer
@111doomer 4 жыл бұрын
FYI the previous loss of a RN squadron that Drach refers to, in 1810, is the battle of isle de la passe, or Port Sud Ouest in Mauritius. There is a hotel that overlooks the battle site and you can see the isle de la passe in the distance from the private beach.
@605nkr
@605nkr 3 жыл бұрын
I've read the fictionalized version of that in Patrick O'Brian's "The Mauritious Command".
@benjohnston9455
@benjohnston9455 4 жыл бұрын
While I love most of the collaborations you do with other channels I could barely hear James for large parts of the video. Napalm also can be a little quiet at times but it also sounds like he is trying to make it sound like he using the olden comms aboard what ship he is commenting from, which is a touch I just love.
@thedevilinthecircuit1414
@thedevilinthecircuit1414 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed...wonderful content! James, it sounds like you are making an effort to speak slowly, but sometimes your individual words are spoken too quickly and are difficult to understand. I look forward to more of these; they are the best on the Internet.
@AudieHolland
@AudieHolland 4 жыл бұрын
Pffah! English is my second language and I had no problems at all understanding anything in this video. As long as it's not that aweful mumbling dialect they like to speak in Northern England (not Scotland because Scots accent is fabulous).
@grizzlygrizzle
@grizzlygrizzle 4 жыл бұрын
I also had trouble making out what the collaborators were saying. Perhaps it's the cheap speakers I'm using, but they work fine for other videos. More attention to clear pronunciation would help. I wonder if the collaborators hear the question "What?" a lot in their normal conversations, given what sounds like a default mumble. For the guy introducing Rear Admiral Craddock, pay special attention to pronouncing the consonants carefully.
@laurencefraser
@laurencefraser 4 жыл бұрын
I was having trouble too. It's almost entirely a matter of volume, though.
@daniellarge9784
@daniellarge9784 Жыл бұрын
I find ... thatjameshabitof ...speakinginburstslikemalfuntioning......morse .....code ...isirrita ..... tingand.....incompr....hensible. Itmakeswhat .......everknowledhe.....hasinaccesible .....tothelisten.....er. It's ironic to consider that when I first started listening to Drach he used robovoice because he thought it would be better than his voice. How wrong he was. He is a brilliant narrator and I hope he gives James some tips, perhaps confidence, to speak more slowly and with an even tempo. Otherwise top work.
@samadams2203
@samadams2203 4 жыл бұрын
I feel bad for Spee, does pretty much everything right but still ends up an impossible position.
@admiralcraddock464
@admiralcraddock464 3 жыл бұрын
A favourite subject of mine. The last sea battle fought solely with ships; no aircraft, Zepplins, submarines or mines.
@crhu319
@crhu319 3 жыл бұрын
Without Zeppelins there is no point to war. War is so you can triumphantly land your Zeps in...oh wait. Nvm
@MasterOfDickery
@MasterOfDickery 4 жыл бұрын
The great thing about drachinifel’s videos is we never know what’s gunna be the next special, it could be logical and be the battle of the Falklands, or illogically it could be a different battle, from a different war, involving different countries and not necessarily involve any ships.
@Emdiggydog
@Emdiggydog 4 жыл бұрын
Next special is gonna be something completely different - Cape Ecnomus?
@onesec8005
@onesec8005 4 жыл бұрын
High speed boarding cat defences?
@thekinginyellow1744
@thekinginyellow1744 4 жыл бұрын
Alternative history: What if there really was a Japanese torpedo boat squadron in the north sea waiting to ambush the Kamchatka?
@Cadadadry
@Cadadadry 4 жыл бұрын
The next special might as well involve nothing bigger than a squadron of 19 coronelviruses...
@cracklingvoice
@cracklingvoice 4 жыл бұрын
Too bad it's beyond the bounds of the channel, as I would love to hear Drach tell the tale of how the North Korean Navy lost a fight (and a submarine) to a South Korean fishing net.
@TheNandomadrid88
@TheNandomadrid88 3 жыл бұрын
Great video Drach! To me, SMS Scharnhorst and her sister ships were the most beautiful warships ever. I know that they were not build to look good, but to be deadly, but OMG I just can't stop looking at her pictures. Just beautiful. I wish there was one still remainign as a museum-ship. But sadly they are at the bottom of the ocean.
@DoddyIshamel
@DoddyIshamel 4 жыл бұрын
I always thought this engagement and the Falklands would make the best "das boot" style series from ww1, following either one of the German crews or HMS Glasgow (or both).
@Feiora
@Feiora 4 жыл бұрын
It might be better if it followed the two officers' crews cause they are the ships and crews that mattered...
@Feiora
@Feiora 4 жыл бұрын
@Chris_Wooden_Eye Whats not allowed? Germany can ban it all they want, its the rest of the world that gets to see it and they'll love it! ^.^ Germany seriously needs to get over this shit...
@davidchambers8697
@davidchambers8697 4 жыл бұрын
@Chris_Wooden_Eye Das Boot was allowed.
@johnlavery3433
@johnlavery3433 3 жыл бұрын
@Chris_Wooden_Eye I mean this is WW1 we’re talking about. It wasn’t a moral war like WW2, it was two bands of colonialist bastards shoving their People into the opposing sides war machine in the hope enough mangled corpses would clog it up
@kurakensama
@kurakensama 4 жыл бұрын
In the first image appears the Chilean battleship Prat, which was quite unique. That, because that image of Spee's squadron was taken in Valparaíso after Coronel.
@joespeciale5875
@joespeciale5875 2 жыл бұрын
Mein Gott in Himmel. The German naval observers record: “The portholes of Monmouth were [clearly] illuminated by the fires within..”. A horror scene to imagine, for the crew trapped inside “the Devil’s foundry”. A brilliant, though horrifying, account of the Coronel naval engagement: thank you, Drach and The Shipyard.
@Jadegreif
@Jadegreif 4 жыл бұрын
Feedback, meant as concstructive and nicely possible: As non native english speaker, James was difficult to understand. His is cadence and tone (and a bit sound quality) made it difficult to follow, especially in contrast to Drach speaking.
@mako1097
@mako1097 4 жыл бұрын
Indeed. While I ultimately appreciate taking lesser known channels and bolstering them, constantly bouncing between Drach's voice and someone else's makes my brain go on the fritz. Differences in volume also make them difficult for me to juggle.
@IRC2005
@IRC2005 4 жыл бұрын
Yes - I am afraid that I had to give up warching because of the almost unintelligible, staccato cadence of James’s delivery. That’s a real shame, because in the brief snatches where he slowed down (and maybe relaxed a little - was it just nerves?), I thought that he was doing a pretty good job adding some expression to the lines. But, as is, I missed many of the names he spoke and the staccato delivery drove me to distraction.
@Drachinifel
@Drachinifel 4 жыл бұрын
It's all a learning experience :)
@GARDENER42
@GARDENER42 4 жыл бұрын
I concur. It was frustrating, as some parts were virtually unintelligible,
@jannegrey593
@jannegrey593 4 жыл бұрын
​@@Drachinifel I also concur. This is something that he will learn if he trains a bit.
@nanotyrannus5435
@nanotyrannus5435 4 жыл бұрын
Some cutting things seem a bit off with The Shipyards voice, the pauses are disturbing the speech flow which is very apparent in the end with the introduction but also less in the video itself. Audio levels also don't seem to match each other very well. Minor problems that are to be expected from something new, I especially liked the extra voices for the reports.
@macbouncer8525
@macbouncer8525 4 жыл бұрын
agree, the staccato style of speech, fast cadence with irregular pauses makes it difficult to comprehend, this is exacerbated by the differing audio levels. Unlike Nanotyrannus, I didn't like the extra voice, it detracted from the normal presentation that is both informative and easy to understand.
@Tuning3434
@Tuning3434 4 жыл бұрын
@@macbouncer8525 Indeed it needs some work, maybe Drach can give a few pointers on how to evolve a channel from robot voice to the marvel it nowadays. I'm very interested in where The Shipyard channel can grow into.
@limeychefboy
@limeychefboy 4 жыл бұрын
I concur
@davecoz4227
@davecoz4227 4 жыл бұрын
I found it very difficult to understand the names of the ships from that second narrator
@taotoo2
@taotoo2 4 жыл бұрын
It was presumably done over skype or similar - the pausing is due to compression of the data or companding. Emailing the audio instead would solve this.
@jlvfr
@jlvfr 4 жыл бұрын
Good battle report and kudos on trying a colaboration with The Shipyard. But his voice and audio do need work. It was low and muffled, at some points being very hard to hear. And mind the pauses.
@corkjaguar
@corkjaguar 3 жыл бұрын
My Great-uncle was (what remains of him perhaps still is) on the Monmouth, listed as a "Sailmaker's Mate". Most complete accounting of his ship's final hours I've ever come across, it appears her crew fought to the very last, rather admirable regardless if they were reserves or not. Thanks for a great video!
@vicmclaglen1631
@vicmclaglen1631 4 жыл бұрын
That's interesting info on the state of Canopus' engines; most histories simply state it was "old and worn", or something similar.
@andrewc7189
@andrewc7189 4 жыл бұрын
There’s a 1927 silent movie depicting these events: The Battles of Coronel and Falkland Islands. Worth a watch if you can find it.
@martinhumble
@martinhumble Жыл бұрын
Is on BluRay
@davidberriman5903
@davidberriman5903 4 жыл бұрын
Very interesting and very well presented. Thank you particularly for the mark of respect at the end. I haven't previously witnessed anything like that in a documentary and I thought it was very fitting.
@Emdiggydog
@Emdiggydog 4 жыл бұрын
I know that German accent. The way Napalm Ratte says "ship-eh" is so wonderful to hear
@theartificialsociety3373
@theartificialsociety3373 3 жыл бұрын
I had a much clearer time hearing drachinifal than the other guy.
@bificommander7472
@bificommander7472 4 жыл бұрын
Ah, the Kongo's finally got their moment to shine and not be laughed out of the video.
@fabianzimmermann5495
@fabianzimmermann5495 4 жыл бұрын
And it was against the Germans. How ironic.
@davidlewis5312
@davidlewis5312 Ай бұрын
Had the Kongos found Von Spree the German squadron would be obliterated
@supereagle1553
@supereagle1553 4 жыл бұрын
I think it’s really nice to see that you are developing the naval military community however it is really off putting and hard to concentrate when there is a voice change. I love all of your videos and hope that you keep up the marvellous work regards
@Maddog3060
@Maddog3060 4 жыл бұрын
Was the Canopus' chief engineer a former Russian officer from the Kamchatka? Or is going mad an acceptable form of dealing with naval bureaucracy? I kid, of course; in reality I'm curious what exactly happened with that guy to cause all of those problems.
@Bird_Dog00
@Bird_Dog00 4 жыл бұрын
Me, I'm curious as to why he hadn't been relieved of duty and replaced with the assistant chief engineer when his behavior became more and more erratic.
@roykliffen9674
@roykliffen9674 4 жыл бұрын
Nice touch, the hymn at the end, "Eternal Father" if I'm not mistaken.
@jimtalbott9535
@jimtalbott9535 4 жыл бұрын
"Fisher was being dusted off".....wonderful.....
@Feiora
@Feiora 4 жыл бұрын
and in a strange game related twist: *Nurnberg warily creeping upto the motionless body of Monmouth*: "Hello? ... Mr. British Guy?" *Monmouth sudden comes alive with a zombie snarl and lunges at Nurnberg* *Nurnberg screams and open fires at Monmouth while getting away*
@Gapsx1eGewehr
@Gapsx1eGewehr 2 ай бұрын
Sonic Unleashed reference?
@samot.456
@samot.456 4 жыл бұрын
For next colaboration video please check and synchronize audio volume. The recording of the new guy was noticably quieter. So much so that when I increased volume to compensate it became uncomfortably loud for me when Drach continued with his part (I'm using headphones). Other than that thank you for great content!
@Drachinifel
@Drachinifel 4 жыл бұрын
I tried my best, on the project file his voice was actually coming over louder than mine. But I'll take this onboard and adjust for next time.
@TheShipYard2
@TheShipYard2 4 жыл бұрын
@@Drachinifel ill increase it on my end aswell.
@WALTERBROADDUS
@WALTERBROADDUS 4 жыл бұрын
@@Drachinifel Beware of back seat Alfred Hitchcock's and Spielberg's.....😏
@Drachinifel
@Drachinifel 4 жыл бұрын
@@WALTERBROADDUS the birds, the birds!
@WALTERBROADDUS
@WALTERBROADDUS 4 жыл бұрын
@@Drachinifel 🦇🦇🦇🦇🦇 Could be worse. Could be "Chicken of the Cave".....kzbin.info/www/bejne/qIm1iqeqYp2ofpo
@DaveSCameron
@DaveSCameron 4 жыл бұрын
Please can you keep uploading as much content as you possibly can to help us all through this tediously terrible time? You're a star Sir. 🥂
@jwynes4
@jwynes4 4 жыл бұрын
I'm nearly finished reading Robert K. Massie's books, "Dreadnought" and "Castles of Steel", and this site's extensive videos of the ships and many of the events have been a great supplemental resource. Thanks for what you are doing here.
@arcadia449
@arcadia449 3 жыл бұрын
One of my ancestors fought in this battle. He died when his ship went down with all hands.
@vipertwenty249
@vipertwenty249 4 жыл бұрын
I had enormous difficulty making out a large proportion of what the second narrator (James) was saying, and had to keep going back to re-listen - sometimes multiple times - to work out what the words he was saying actually were. He needs significant practice at delivering clear diction!
@Knuck_Knucks
@Knuck_Knucks 4 жыл бұрын
In the future, switch on the subtitles in settings. I find them handy sometimes. Particularly in this case. Fun collaboration never the less. : )
@vipertwenty249
@vipertwenty249 4 жыл бұрын
@@Knuck_Knucks Doh! Homer moment! Thx!
@mysss29
@mysss29 4 жыл бұрын
@@Knuck_Knucks When I checked the captions, the words seemed correct...but the sentences they were part of didn't make sense with those words. :|
@Knuck_Knucks
@Knuck_Knucks 4 жыл бұрын
@@mysss29 Yeah, the captioning is often "auto generating" meaning the captioning is trying its best to interpret what is said. Depending on how the person speaks, the auto captioning might combine two separate words into one. It isn't always perfect. Particularly with this video! : ) I often us it on Jordan Peterson Lectures so I can hang on every work...
@terrygibbs1147
@terrygibbs1147 Жыл бұрын
Another very good review. The real blame for the loss at Coronel lies with the Admiralty especially Churchill and Battenberg who should have foreseen the strategic situation in the Pacific and deployed adequate forces there before war broke out. Cradock did his duty and the fine memorial to him in York Minster reflects a man 'upholding the fine tradition of the British Navy'.
@supercrew63
@supercrew63 4 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this video,as I did not know much about this battle...Thank you very much
@JessWLStuart
@JessWLStuart 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. I should mention the speech of the gentleman from The Shipyard was lower volume and words were said to quickly for me to easily follow.
@Gloopular
@Gloopular 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the upload - always love your vids!
@simonf8902
@simonf8902 Жыл бұрын
The German cruiser Emden was later sunk by HMAS Sydney off the Cocos Islands.
@BokoDisraeli
@BokoDisraeli 4 жыл бұрын
Drach has a masterful turn of phrase when it comes to hyperbole.
@seno5530
@seno5530 4 жыл бұрын
It took me a while to realize that Drach did have the backup of not one, but two chaps. I love the work you three are doing, and I am very thankful for the great sources of profound entertainment. Just regarding the delivery of this, please understand it as respectful criticism, when I say: Ones native language is not necessarily an indicator of how well one can express himself in the verbal sense. There is some room of improvement which, if filled with practice can surely lead to a great future.
@brotherbryan2414
@brotherbryan2414 3 жыл бұрын
Watch many of your videos, very well done, and very informative, and you have the best intro music in the business. Thank you blessings
@pattonfordo
@pattonfordo 4 жыл бұрын
Morning Drach. Thank you for making my morning better.
@garymckee8857
@garymckee8857 4 жыл бұрын
A thumbs up before I watch. Your presentation never disappoints.
@Gothmog2266
@Gothmog2266 4 жыл бұрын
please drach, i appreciate the collaboration attempt (it was excellent in the AM6 video) but this didn't work as his voice is almost unlistenable
@macbouncer8525
@macbouncer8525 4 жыл бұрын
have to agree there.
@mynameiswritinwater
@mynameiswritinwater 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah - while an interesting video overall, the Shipyards contribuition take down the greater whole - wgile Drach is eminently good at enunciation, James unfortunately is not, sound levels varying too much as well...
@ONECOUNT
@ONECOUNT 4 жыл бұрын
He was alright and did have something to contribute, we are spoiled as we have Drach.
@kmac2775
@kmac2775 4 жыл бұрын
Based on what I'm hearing, you can tell James is reading into a microphone, with the dips in volume when he's doing the reading.
@dreadgod81
@dreadgod81 4 жыл бұрын
For a good laugh, turn on the automated Closed Captioning when he speaks. The results are less than encouraging. All KZbinrs should strive to, at a minimum, achieve the level of their language's CC system. There are massive differences between British English pronunciation and American English pronunciation and that's fair, but good god. He is NOT an experienced speaker. There are real dialect issues at work here. Shipyard, I love you, but you would benefit from a speaking coach.
@berges104
@berges104 4 жыл бұрын
That Walnut is the source of all nut allergies. Load the TARDIS anyway.
@ImAzraa
@ImAzraa 3 жыл бұрын
I live at about 50km / 30 miles from Coronel, in Chile. We have a small monolith to that battle at a park right by the coastline, with bronze plaques that read the same as stated in the end message of this video, and bronze carvings of the silouttes of both sunken ships. We locals know that battle as "Batalla Naval de Coronel". Give it a search, you'll find some nice pictures
@Dv087
@Dv087 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I really enjoyed this.
@salamanderpete
@salamanderpete 4 жыл бұрын
Genuine shivers at the end. Respect.
@fabianzimmermann5495
@fabianzimmermann5495 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. Read an article about this battle recently. I hope that the battle off the Falklands will be covered soon.
@davidlogansr8007
@davidlogansr8007 2 жыл бұрын
I had almost no luck understanding James!
@geetakulkarni996
@geetakulkarni996 4 жыл бұрын
When you listen, you can clearly make out which narrator has been doing it for a long time and which narrators have not
@Dizbulance
@Dizbulance 4 жыл бұрын
Knock knock. It's the United States. With Huge boats. With guns. Gunboats. "Open the country. Stop having it be closed." Said the United States. Japan: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@kerryblanchard9425
@kerryblanchard9425 4 жыл бұрын
Japan nearly 100 years later: "Knock knock, it's the Imperial Japanese Navy. With lots of planes. And bombs. And torpedoes. And we'll use them on your ships now. K bye." United States just under four years later: "Knock knock, it's the United States. We bring back your explosives. With lots of interest."
@painmt651
@painmt651 Ай бұрын
The incredibly huge number of casualties in naval battles has always made me rather sick, when I contemplate their last moments. How wasteful! How terribly destructive…
@GCJT1949
@GCJT1949 4 жыл бұрын
Your sound levels from the various sources were extremely different. I had to constantly adjust.
@spencerderosier6649
@spencerderosier6649 10 ай бұрын
“Scharnhorst hoisted a flag. Engage enemy, full speed ahead” I want this tattooed on my face.
@wordsmithgmxch
@wordsmithgmxch 4 жыл бұрын
Drachinifel, your voice is laid-back, comforting, a mite ironic and thoroughly understandable. Mr Ratte's voice, with its staccato delivery, and further degraded by poor sound quality, is just not up to the task of communicating understandably. Also, the addition of static to the reports from the British / German ships is perhaps a cool effect; but where there are technical issues, as here, the effect gets in the way of fundamental comprehension.
@Drachinifel
@Drachinifel 4 жыл бұрын
I can dial back the radio effect, I introduced it a couple of battle reports ago to indicate a "voices from the past" feel to survivors accounts.
@macbouncer8525
@macbouncer8525 4 жыл бұрын
@@Drachinifel "Mr Ratte's voice, with its staccato delivery, and further degraded by poor sound quality, is just not up to the task of communicating understandably" Have to agree completely with that part.
@thekinginyellow1744
@thekinginyellow1744 4 жыл бұрын
I disagree. Maybe it's variations in sound systems, but I found NapalmRatte easily understandable, but James quite a bit less so.
@richardpentelow655
@richardpentelow655 3 жыл бұрын
My War at Sea, by Heathcoat S Grant, later an Admiral after the war, and then Captain of the Canopus is a fascinating read. He covers this, and the Falklands, where Canopus was flooded aft in harbour to provide a firing position. He eventually ended up doing battery fire at Gallipoli, firing over the heads of friends and family. He knew Canopus to be a dog, but he was implacable, always catching up, ever striving. I think it is £1 on Amazon. Truly great.
@eblingus
@eblingus 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting battle. I love these WW1 cruiser battles
@kiwihame
@kiwihame 4 жыл бұрын
Loved the Tribute at the end. Nice.
@fandangofandango2022
@fandangofandango2022 2 жыл бұрын
Dear Sir, Wonderful.
@generaltso8278
@generaltso8278 2 жыл бұрын
I think it's better when Drach narrates the entire thing the german narrator sounds like he's calling in from a 2 way radio. UPDATE: after listining to Channel Dash maybe that was the point, just needs to be louder I can barely hear him... Tallyhoe ha ha
@martijnjongepoerink3459
@martijnjongepoerink3459 4 жыл бұрын
Another AWESOME video. Thank you much. For James, the shipyard, I have a small request. Could you speak just a little slower, just a little please? I enjoy collaborations like these very much. For Drach, thank you for doing all this work and research. Many times I knew a bit about something, but without any details. Thank you VERY much, for filling those blanks. Cheers, salut, shokdi, langevar, nastrovia, proost.
@WALTERBROADDUS
@WALTERBROADDUS 4 жыл бұрын
turn your captions on.
@Alpostpone
@Alpostpone 4 жыл бұрын
@@WALTERBROADDUS Not helping.
@jonsimpson9640
@jonsimpson9640 3 жыл бұрын
A fantastic video and great detail. I hope there is a video about the battle of Falkland Islands :)
@cabbagecabbage5047
@cabbagecabbage5047 4 жыл бұрын
James could occassionally be difficult to understand, but otherwise it didn't bother me too much and I enjoyed the collaboration. Just like Bernhard in MHV, James would definitely improve and his old accent would be viewed as a legacy for a time when his channel is still young.
@jonathanhill4892
@jonathanhill4892 4 жыл бұрын
Unlike some commentors, I didn't find it at all difficult to understand James when he was speaking. But there may be issues with sound levels and diction that will surely be resolved with practice. No need to throw the binoculars overboard! Thanks very much to all involved for an exciting and interesting report - and an extra thanks for the tribute at the end.
@neojso
@neojso 3 жыл бұрын
I love the last part that u gave proper mention and respect for those who die in the battle. Sorry for my poor English.
@orbitalair2103
@orbitalair2103 4 жыл бұрын
suggestion for the Falklands followup; more charts of the ships-armaments, animated maps of the contacts, firings, event timelines - its just easier to follow. Otherwise I like the scope, the background, the details and the narrations. but level out the audios. Great job.
@Pwnicus187
@Pwnicus187 4 жыл бұрын
I just got to this chapter in Castles of Steel, highly recommend as an excellent read!
@rodento3220
@rodento3220 Жыл бұрын
I love the ending Bravo!
@carneymalone4132
@carneymalone4132 4 жыл бұрын
Well done!
@orbitalair2103
@orbitalair2103 4 жыл бұрын
suggestion - at 18:30 ship-guns rundown, a chart or table would be much easier to follow.
@goldreserve
@goldreserve 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, but sounds like the other reader's been soaked in grog
@davidabney7700
@davidabney7700 4 жыл бұрын
A great commentary on a WW I sea battle that involved 4-armored cruisers, four light cruisers, one AMC (Otranto) cruiser. This video has been well researched with emphasis given to the mechanics, the speeds, the background of the warships involved, the two Admirals, and their gallant crews. The battle itself, under 11-1-14 conditions, should not have been engaged by Admiral Craddock. He should have broke up his squadron and fell back on the pre-dreadnought Canopus, that was struggling to catch up. Her 12-inch rifles could have aided Craddock, my modest opinion. Craddock did not expect to see the whole German squadron, but was on the scout for a single German light cruiser he thought was lurking about, NOT the whole German squadron! Thank you again for this great video on a seldom covered sea battle.
@SudrianTales
@SudrianTales 2 жыл бұрын
Craddock should've had a battlecruiser, not a clapped out battleship and cruiser.
@MLCrisis1790
@MLCrisis1790 4 жыл бұрын
The miscommunication with the Admiralty turned a potential disaster into a tragedy. I can't stand it when good men and their officers are killed in an unintended battle that they could have otherwise survived.
@thetokyobill
@thetokyobill 4 жыл бұрын
5:20....listen here for mention of Kongo-class cruisers ... and something about a walnut. :)
@AdamPernak
@AdamPernak 4 жыл бұрын
At 4.51 - "Outside context problem" - Is it a reference to Ian M Banks Excession ?
@Drachinifel
@Drachinifel 4 жыл бұрын
Give this man a cookie!
@paradoxless5596
@paradoxless5596 4 жыл бұрын
And to think I live only a few hours away from Coronel.
@thepedrothethethe6151
@thepedrothethethe6151 4 жыл бұрын
Paradox Less Eres de Concepción?
@paradoxless5596
@paradoxless5596 4 жыл бұрын
@@thepedrothethethe6151 Solo un poco más al norte
@Coyote5005
@Coyote5005 4 жыл бұрын
I’d love to see something on the USS Oregon City, i think it holds some distinction for being such a large ship named after a small city. It was also a lead ship of her class.
@TrainmanDan
@TrainmanDan 4 жыл бұрын
It was hard to understand the other guy's narration.
@buggerall
@buggerall 4 жыл бұрын
Same here. Missed a lot of his narration.
@markkover8040
@markkover8040 4 жыл бұрын
Very well done! Thank you for this presentation. You are both to be commended.
@henkbarnard1553
@henkbarnard1553 4 жыл бұрын
4:29 Yess I see some torpedo boats.
@briannicholas2757
@briannicholas2757 4 жыл бұрын
You guys did a great job with this battle recount. I really liked the format and having the different voices makes it even more engaging. I hate to criticize anything you guys do, as I certainly could never do it, but I found it more challenging to hear Shipyard, as his voice had less volume. Perhaps a small tweak of the microphones or audio might help. Thanks , as always for an informative video. Brian Nicholas
@-spook-2992
@-spook-2992 4 жыл бұрын
Few others have your wonderful voice, Drach.
@danielfunderburg9370
@danielfunderburg9370 4 жыл бұрын
Is there any record of what exactly was wrong with the senior engineer on Canopus, and of just when her command staff realized "Ah yes, there's something wrong with our senior engineer" and had him removed?
@m.streicher8286
@m.streicher8286 10 ай бұрын
Imagine getting replaced by a pre-WW2 Churchill. My self esteem wouldn't recover.
@orbitalair2103
@orbitalair2103 4 жыл бұрын
Ive gamed this with 'GrandFleets' 3rd edition, its a very interesting situation. Interesting info about the Canopus engines. I will add that as a option.
@michaelwanamaker9829
@michaelwanamaker9829 4 жыл бұрын
Optional debuff: Insane chief engineer. Reduce max and effective speed of ship by 30%, refund 15% of ship cost. Insanity may increase over time.
@davetaylor4761
@davetaylor4761 4 жыл бұрын
Well edited and respectful
@thebritishengineer8027
@thebritishengineer8027 4 жыл бұрын
Oh that HMS Canubus...!!! One of the most fiddly bastard 22" inch long models I ever made, the hull was car body filler on a rigid foam base, the barbette guns plastistrut pipe, the gun barrels were sleeved brass/turned rod. I did the rigging 3 times until a mate at BT furnished me with some ultra fine wire. As for all the hand-rails I did them as per the picture with the canvas in place. The Martian Fighting Machine... that was a lot easier. Yes... missing the anti torpedo booms and two barbette turrets port/starboard below the main super structure... Canubus (or class) inspired the Thunderchild from Jeff Waynes War of the Worlds Album.
@guhalakshmiratan5566
@guhalakshmiratan5566 3 жыл бұрын
The raid of the Emden on Madras was so successful that the name "Emden" (or "Yemden") became a part of the local Tamil language. Akin to the boogeyman. Mothers would scold young children to behave or "Yemden" would come for them...
@TOMAS-lh4er
@TOMAS-lh4er 4 жыл бұрын
NICE BLEND !! I like it ! YOUR humor is wonderful !! " RATS ON LSD "!!
@mediocrefunkybeat
@mediocrefunkybeat 3 жыл бұрын
Iain Banks references. Wonderful, wonderful.
@ericdickison7995
@ericdickison7995 4 жыл бұрын
A 36 minute long 5 min guide.....fantastic! Self isolating with what’s probably nothing more than a nasty cold, I’m just gonna lay back and enjoy this!
@davidbarrass
@davidbarrass 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I'm the same, exploring Drach's back catalogue, even the computer voice. Take care and look after yourself
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