Battle of the Coils X35 vs HF9

[@SeattleRingHunter]

27:50 his nail find on this dig may have been the likely target but on this dig he didn't swing over the initial shovel plug, never forget this as your target may be in the top plug... The XP Deus elliptical HF coil is can pull some tinny bits to the surface! Cheers, #SeattleRingHunter

[@richardtarr2745]

Excellent video Owen - I've talked to several dealers who all say don't buy the 11" X35 if you have an 'old' 11" black coil. What they didn't say was buy an elliptical coil - so that will possibly be my next purchase. Most helpful and much appreciated thank you.

[@vinnythisissilly1235]

I really enjoyed that. Owen, you make me smile, very good presentation and humour. I have both coils and generally agree with you.

[@owainwilliams7993]

Vinny thisissilly123 thanks vinny I love it I’m a detectorist all the way no brand deals or selling my soul for for a bit of fame im straight up if it’s not good I will say if it is I will also say I’m getting back to the videos going to do the them from my perspective quite difficult keeping the camera man with footage during the day lol

[@TFA-01]

Good bit of info here, and the honesty is refreshing. I've just bought me an orx with a x35 coil!!!

[@owainwilliams7993]

TyronesDetecting yess no bias or sponsorship here I tell it how it is got to be done for ppl making the decision to buy one themselves to many sponsored ppl on KZbin lying lol

[@detectingsouthwestgb1586]

Close my eyes and it’s like listening to Jeremy Clarkson😂 Great vid though. I have been using the x35 since launch, very pleased with it, have both the other HF Coils, very much horses for courses..

[@owainwilliams7993]

Detecting South West GB I’m waiting for a multi frequency hf coil then we’re cooking on gas 😀

[@esprinto07thomas63]

.......and than, when you open your eyes, you see Kevin James !! 😂😂

[@BigBobbyB]

You need a shovel with a longer handle. My back even hurts watching you dig. LOL

[@owainwilliams7993]

I don’t really notice it my knees hurt a bit mind lol not been out in like a billion years stay safe hopefully normal Life again soon 😀

[@Wally-H]

Thanks for this. When I purchased my Deus I got the HF elliptical coil, however a few months back I got the HF round and it's much better IMO. The target separation between the two is almost identical, but the round coil is much punchier, giving you slightly better depth and making those hard-to-hear targets louder in your ears. I never use the elliptical now, in fact I'm selling it and I have purchased the X35 11" featured here as my second coil. I have a permission next to a Roman road that's pasture so I want that extra depth to try and pull out those deep targets. On my trashy orchard sites, which have been ploughed a couple of times to put in fruit trees, the HF round will still be the winner I think because there is loads of crap lying around (foil wrappers, bits of old wire, iron) and the target separation of the HF is just brilliant. I know some Deus users end up getting all the coils - like you, I don't think it's worth the expense. Two of them will do - one HF, one X35 and you've got it covered. I do think if you tried the round HF, you'd probably end up swapping from your elliptical. The elliptical is amazing for searching out tiny gold nuggets in the Australian outback, but you'll find those tiny hammered and Roman coins with the HF round and it has clear advantages.

[@owenwilliams63]

I’ve got the round too bud it’s good also I think if you have a 13 and a 9 your covered for most scenarios there great bits of kit just don’t need all five coils in with you in that

[@peternicholls6532]

I was thinking of buying the x35 coil but your honesty and demo made me think and I will just stick with my 9 inch HF coil on the Orx.. I've been fortunate to find a bronze age palstave style axe head 3200-3500 yrs old on new years eve 2019 and found my first hammered few weeks back an Edward l (long shanks) silver penny. Only been detecting just over a year so pleased with my machine as it is, I don't think I need anything bigger really. great video :)

[@zrbsrbija]

Love the background music you pop in here and there Thanks great video

[@owainwilliams7993]

Thanks buddy that was my mate the camera man he’s a talented bloke we should get together again do some more videos

[@malcolmgillam5910]

Great video Owen and very informative, as you know I have 9" black coil 11" black and a white elliptical HF, I was going to buy the X35 I was told by a certain supplier that I do not need one as I have all the frequencies necessary, I hope this information is helpful.

[@owenwilliams63]

Malcolm Gillam you’ve made the right choice and what an honest shop for telling you that brilliant

[@wellbelove]

Thank you for the video and information, just what I was looking for. I have the elliptical HF and the 11” black coil, and was wondering if it was worth buying the new x35, apparently not! Thanks again here from the island of Bornholm in the Baltic sea, Denmark

[@owenwilliams63]

Brian Murray no defo not worth the upgrade bud bit disappointing to be fair

[@NoisyParkser]

Brilliant video Owen - you're a natural at this celebrity lark :-) Just pull up your jeans next time - and while I could hear the pinpointer the detector was not coming through. But this is as good as the official Deus videos which come out!

[@owenwilliams63]

Robert Drayton no celeb we just want to make the world dance 😀 and ppl to enjoy what they see

[@owenwilliams63]

Next is the video round up of our epic treasure and gold laden dig last weekend

[@stjopuszka]

Giving thumb up after watchingb20sec of material, what a briliant quality of video!!!!! :)

[@owainwilliams7993]

stjopuszka thanks bud that’s down to the camera man he’s a bit of a legend his company is called cyclone blue limited check him out on insta stay safe buddy 😀

[@andreadebenedictis462]

Nice video , I think X35 is better for general searching in most off the scenarios. Yes it goes a little bit deeper as you said. Hf elliptical coil is really sensible , it’s possible that you will dig some target that the pinpointer does not get and is better for the target separation between iron. Personally I have both of this coils and I use the first time I go on a new site the 11” x35 , then if the site is good I pass again with Hf Eliptical. Hello from Italy , metal detecting in the uk is one of my dream.

[@owainwilliams7993]

Andrea De Benedictis thanks bud yes your rite if you have not already got a black of coil defo get the x35 anytime your over in the uk drop us a line come Join us 😀

[@andreadebenedictis462]

Owain Williams I have x35 black 11” and Hf elliptical... good couple I think. if I came as Erasmus in the uk I will bring my deus !

[@thehightonesmduk]

Great info and great video thanks for taking time to share this

[@finds7147]

Good comparison no bullsxxt or hype.

[@owainwilliams7993]

FINDS 71 thanks bud yea I’m just straight up no sales crap the deus is a very capable machine loving learning it and the finds it’s brought up

[@englandshistory]

Looks a good field... wouldnt mind joining you when you have another dig on there 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼 good vid too 🤘

[@owainwilliams7993]

EnglandsHistory always welcome bro I’ll give phil the heads up when we’re on here won’t be long 😀

[@englandshistory]

Owain Williams awesome... i love going over old land thats produced in the past... a good challenge 😍👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

[@deustezza323]

Yes am me men pretty please 🙏🙏🙏

[@ThePhilandPam]

Great video Owen, have to say the x35 definitely goes deeper than the 9” original black coil and at 4khz seems to go a lot deeper but target separation isn’t as good and pinpointing isn’t as perfect but that could be me getting used to it. Great review 👍

[@owenwilliams63]

ThePhilandPam thanks Phil yess don’t get me wrong x35 is deeper but not massively so if you have an 11 already just buy an x35 get the hf 9 there’s not much in it

[@Sapper094]

Yes, l’m just saying that that’s pretty mild compared to some of our contaminated villa sites. Are you using the full tones hot program? Easily the best program for bad sites, the positive signals just ping out through the noise.

[@TheInsox]

Nice vid mate, but get a proper shovel for your lenght :P.. Youre wasting your back :)

[@owainwilliams7993]

iTz Catchyy I seen to be ok with it im 6 foot 3 so it looks a bit mad lol but no back problems yet touch wood lol

[@23950522]

Nice genuine video showing good and bad recoveries whilst digging live ,no noisy intros no tattoos no silly haircuts or piercings,call me old fashioned,!!! A good comparison ,ive gone through the the full monty of Deus coils bar one ,Deus standard old coils or non X35 have nothing to fear IMO and will still pick up airgun pellets 2.2 caps and small minims using the higher frequencies 12 or 17 kHz . What you have shown here is the really good target seperation of the small eliptical coil ,but you loose out on depth ,, yeh I can hear you say you've found bigger targets at greater depths which is as you would be, Ive had both HF coils they are as described by Garry Blackwell primarily for gold prospecting ,very high frequencies .with a couple of useable frequencies that could be used for general detecting the type we do here in the UK. So the only coil Ive not used ,and Ive got the 11inch x35 which works well for me ,is the 9inch x35 which will give you better seperation and lightness higher useable frequencies ,and it wouldn't surprise me if XP brought out a black eliptical 9x5 would be a winner ,wonderful machine the Deus ..........

[@alfasud1972]

Couple of tips, while filming put the Deus on the speaker so all of us can hear the signals, buy a decent full side spade which won't break your back, it will dig your targets much faster and easier, and lastly use the pinpointer function on control box to dig right 'on' the target the first time. For the rest I like the video and I like the bokeh of your lens/camera.

[@owainwilliams7993]

I don’t use pinpoint function bud no need to you wiggle your coil back when you lose the signal target is on the front of the coil every time😀 also I had a microphone taped to my neck you can clearly hear the tones nice and lovely you may need to check your speakers?

[@monstertruckess]

I have had almost all coils. Was happy with my 11 inch old one, then got the HF round, didn't really like it, swapped it for the 11" x35.. didn't really do it for me either. Now I have the old 9" again and it's my favorite. Two days ago i went over 2 Roman fields with that elliptical one, but didn't find ANYTHING except small foil balls... on my straight line to the car, I dig up a crossbow Roman Brooch. It's only my 2nd brooch in 10 yrs. WHY ? lol.

[@owenwilliams63]

That’s the Beauty of the hobby we can try and make it predictable but it is just as random as it gets love it lol

[@fabiobonavera3594]

Thank for information good video and good test ! X 35 is perfect uaooooo!!! 😱😱😱😱✌✌✌✌

[@jorgmichaelpalm40]

Hi, thank you for this very informative and interesting video. On which settings you run the hf coil?

[@owainwilliams7993]

Thank you jorg in all the time I’ve used the deus I’ve never really needed to come of hot setting tweaking certain settings in the control box like sensitivity reactivity or audio response and frequency for the field I’m in my normal operating set up is 30khz 94 sensitivity disc 0 to minus 6 reactivity 2.5 Audio response 4 bit it I’m on ploughed I do like having a blast full power 80hz

[@Windsurfingaddict]

Just found you as was looking up x35 coils, hope you don’t mind me say so but I though I was listening to Jeremy Clarkson lol, you sound so similar, thanks for info 😀

[@owenwilliams63]

Ha ha no offence taken I’ve emailed his farm for permission to no avail yet lol

[@Windsurfingaddict]

@@owenwilliams63 You could be his voice double, keep trying 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@owainwilliams7993]

@@WindsurfingaddictI will ring up saying I’m him and a guy is coming to detect see if it works lol

[@lancemcilwainoutcastmetald5398]

I only have the 9 inch hf coil. Would it be worth upgrading to the 11 inch x35 coil ??

[@owenwilliams63]

Yess it’s defo worth getting it if you don’t have a larger lf coil there brilliant but just not worth the investment if you have an old 13 Inch coil not much between them two but it will compliment your small hf very well good on pasture

[@owenwilliams63]

Yess for sure if you only have a 9 inch get the x35 for pasture

[@lancemcilwainoutcastmetald5398]

Axe Valley and East Devon Searchers UK Thanks

[@MartsTravel]

Very realistic video, good to watch

[@owainwilliams7993]

Marts Travels thanks mart that’s us no bullshit just straight up detecting you won’t see a brand name anywhere in our videos they won’t give us a machine to test none of them they don’t want honest reviews so we do it our selves for our detecting family so you can decide what to buy by seeing how they work in real life

[@MartsTravel]

@@owainwilliams7993 I really like the realism of it, i detect and i know its 95% trash most of the time. You have a great persona to keep it up.

[@dermotobrien2271]

Looking for your advice..What's your goto coil, your every day favourite for general searching.

[@owainwilliams7993]

Hi dermot I’ve not taken the hf elliptical off since this video I’ve hammmerd it so much even fully charged I’ve only got a quarter of a battery lol defo that coil buddy it’s a good all rounder for beach fields and pasture

[@dermotobrien2271]

@@owainwilliams7993 Thanks a million for the reply, to hear a genuine response on which actually works in all aspects of hunting. I have the hf round, so I dont think ill be jumping for the x35. Owain thanks again and keep the videos going, they're very good and informative too. Cheers

[@Treeboyltd]

Why is your camera man at the other side of the field 🤔

[@owenwilliams63]

Hi bud not sure we’re not you tubers we were just having a play to see if we could lots to learn on the filming front we had problems doing close ups because his 4K lense did not like close ups lol he needs another lense for that there quite expensive he’s saving lol

What about the 9"LF, I'd trade that for the 11" X35 and pair it with my 9" HF elliptical? Feel like the LF is a bit more stable in certain conditions than the HF, but otherwise it doesn't really do much the LF cannot do(besides the lower frequencies, but the X35 can do that too).

[@owenwilliams63]

Matthäus Ranigler it’s the super high frequency in the hf elliptical I like super tiny targets sound lovely and clear

Since I have it I rarely even used the 9" LF, but I do notice the missing depth, which is the only thing that bothers me with the Deus a bit. I have a desertgold that goes deeper, but thats an entierly different machine, no VDI, single tone and heavy. Would the switch 9"LF 11"X35 be worth it?

[@owenwilliams63]

Matthäus Ranigler if you want the extra depth I’d get the 13 inch lf there probably a bit cheaper now too don’t get me wrong x35 is good but not world changing

Thanks for the advice and keep the videos coming, new subscriber :)

[@owenwilliams63]

Matthäus Ranigler will do bud we’ve got an epic round up video of our last dig coming gold Bronze Age and loads of hammered keep an eye out 😀

[@jasonmiller270]

Could you please tell me how well the x35 coil Handel's Emi

[@owainwilliams7993]

Jason Miller not bad like most deus coils they handle emi better than most makes if it does get a bit twitchy I just drop the Sensitivity a tad that normally settles it down

[@jasonmiller270]

@@owainwilliams7993 that's the thing I have a standard coil I have to drop the sensitivity all the way down to 60 and there ain't no power lines or nothing around it Chatters some days is good some days is not and I've only had it a little over two years and it's been like that ever since I've had it

[@owenwilliams63]

If anyone has a deep program for the x35 post it in comments ok have a bash with that on the same field

[@levity2893]

so the HF coil seperates better , but dosent go as deep? switsh to the round one and you got a winner

[@owenwilliams63]

I’ve got the round one too buddy but I have to say I’ve not had the elliptical off in 2 years I think all conditions love it

[@rcmodderrc5889]

I like the walk in intro..... How 90's👌..... You should've walked into shot an sat on a desk.... Swiss Tony style 👍

[@owenwilliams63]

Rc modder Rc ha ha yess we’re having fun having a play around

[@flyrock2]

Funny you find anything swinging so fast. Just wondering if you brought the kids shovel to be funny. 🤣🤣

[@owainwilliams7993]

flyrock2 as a dig organiser I see all sorts of styles low and slow,fast and low it’s whatever works for you some go to cover more ground quicker some cover less ground slower but more thorough of a search I’m a fast searcher myself but if i hit an area that’s producing lots I will slow down and scan the hell out of it lol

[@simonwharmby]

Great informative video shame about the heay breathing, sounds like a dirty caller saying " Can I show you mi Roman fibula" 😅😅

[@johntaggart1176]

You are going to give yourself back trouble using that very small spade, buy yourself a good sized Evolution Spade., cheers.

[@owenwilliams63]

hopefully not I need those knees lol I like the because they are light and clip on your belt

[@Sapper094]

That contamination is nothing 😂

[@owenwilliams63]

Celtic Karl it’s purely a test 😀

[@pauleverest9600]

you are either 6ft 8 or thats a very small digging tool lol.

[@owenwilliams63]

Paul Everest ha ha your close I’m 6’3 it is a micro spade I do need to upgrade these are very cheap ten pounds there super light mind I’ve broken 4 lol

[@michaelnixon8478]

Pompus nugget

[@owainwilliams7993]

I live in a council house and work six days a week mate can’t be further from pompus educated yess but I’m not ashamed of that knowledge is power as they say lol

[@michaelnixon8478]

@@owainwilliams7993 lol yer mate lol

[@camerahome5156]

Hey, Guy, you make me tired watching you use that little shovel and having to dig every hole 5 times or more. Get a real detecting shovel not that mini hardware store piece of crap and things will go a lot faster for you. Having to fast forward through each dig wears thin very fast. Aside from that great site to dig. The X35 is much better that the HF coils in fact my HF is now retired to the back of the closet.

[@owainwilliams7993]

Camera home I can’t see me digging a hole five times lol just one small plug when your out detecting for ten hours a micro shovel helps does not bother my back one bit most ppl in the uk use these unless they surcome to marketing and buy a spade for 100 quid that does the same thing

[@vladimirmalinkovic7075]

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