The American M1917 vs British P14, History, Range and Review of these Classic WW1 Rifles

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@montanamountainmen6104 Жыл бұрын

I have a " Eddystone" P17. Its still in its WW1 dressing, meaning blued, not re parked for WW2 service. Its shoots very well and its a piece of history.

@VCBird6 Жыл бұрын

I own a 1917 with the red stock stripe, indicating that it served both with the American forces in WW1 and the Commonwealth in WW2 If the wood and steel could talk...

@gmwhaley0961 2 ай бұрын

The red stripe was there to identify the difference in the rifles if they were in storage the quick difference between 303 British and 30-06 because the rifles were identical looking

@r.ferrell4460 Жыл бұрын

10:50 I own each of these rifles, with their appropriate bayonets. They both shoot well and have never had any problems with either. Yes, my 1903’s are more accurate, but as MBR’s the P14 and M1917 excel, IMHO.I consider myself lucky to have one of each.

@The_SmorgMan Жыл бұрын

I think the 1903 is a brilliant target/competition rifle. For combat that front sight really needs something to protect it.

@classicgunstoday1972 Жыл бұрын

The 1917 is going to be my next rifle. .30-06 is my fav rifle cartridge and I want a WW1 iron sight rifle to go with it. “It was born American out of a British family”. Kinda like America itself.

@BattlefieldCurator Жыл бұрын

Yep lol

@joearledge1 Жыл бұрын

Have you seen "Mark and Sam After Work" in Australia shooting volley sights at 3,000 yards? Surprisingly impressive. If you haven't, it's definitely worth a watch. It's currently the only known modern video of the sights being used as intended.

@BattlefieldCurator Жыл бұрын

Was that a male firer and a female spotter? I think I saw that one

@joearledge1 Жыл бұрын

@@BattlefieldCurator yep husband and wife team

@davidkovach9175 Жыл бұрын

Had both love both. To me they are the same rifle just one is chambered in 303 and the other is 30-06.

@BattlefieldCurator Жыл бұрын

Nice! I couldn’t just have one, I had to get them both as well

@davidkovach9175 Жыл бұрын

@@BattlefieldCurator I had 3 M1917s and 2 P14 rifles. Now I only have one P14 rifle. I traded off the rest for other military surplus rifles.

@redbeard9104 9 ай бұрын

My grandfather gave me a sporterized m1917 20 years ago, my dad and I fully restored it, I know for some due to it being a restore it’s not valued much. But it is my favorite rifle I own

@B25gunship Ай бұрын

I have a P14 that was very nicely and professionally sporterized. I had the barrel shortened 2" with a nice re-crown to make it a little handier and it has a sporter stock. It is a Winchester manufacture and is the probably most accurate rifle I have ever owned. Sub moa groups at 100 yards all day long if I do my part. 303 Brit ammo puts whitetails down just as good as 30-06. It likes Winchester Power Points.

@The_SmorgMan Жыл бұрын

Armory note: if you have to repair a broken ejector/spring, don’t bother using a spring from a pen (common recommendation from community) After 20 minutes of frustration you will turn that spring into a rocket and it will disappear behind your neglected houseplant or couch. Get the “HD clip latch spring” from Fulton Armory in their “M1 Garand” section. It’s a perfect fit and works well.

@patrickkelly7838 Жыл бұрын

Rim lock was a non-issue in this rifle with factory loaded clips, battlesight was set at 540 yards not 200 as you said. Eddeystone was a Remington factory for only a short time, it had three owners during the war, Eddiestone was the worlds largest rifle plant when the war ended.

@barkerjames1980 Жыл бұрын

Yep. I have both rifles and custom rifles made from both. Like you said, rim lock is a non-issue with the P-14, as the rifle was designed for a rimmed cartridge. I've deliberately tried every conceivable way I could think of to rim-lock my P-14 and it just won't!

@barkerjames1980 Жыл бұрын

Even single loading intentionally putting one cartridge behind the one below it in the magazine as well as intentionally loading the clip incorrectly resulted in no rim-locks. Also, as you alluded to, the rear sight folded down is the battle sight setting at about 540 yards. You have to fold up the rear sight to attain a 200 yard setting. I chuckled when he was talking meters on a British WWI rifle. They used yards 😅

@metalwork. 5 ай бұрын

Kept my P-14 , of all my old military rifles

@BattlefieldCurator 5 ай бұрын

They are really interesting rifles

@derekheuring2984 9 ай бұрын

You had it backwards there about the Winchester P 14 not fitting the Remington or the Eddystone. The Winchester was made to stringent standards set by the Brits and it was the Remington and Eddystones that had parts that weren't interchangeable with the Winchester which was made to a higher standard. In fact, only Winchester Pattern 14 rifles were accepted as sniper rifles due to their inherent greater accuracy. Of course, 'rimlock' wasn't possible with service ammunition as those cases had a chamfered rim allowing any case to slip over the one below it. Modern commercial .303 British rims aren't chamfered by modern manufacturers in order to save a little on the manufacturing costs. Shooters familiar with .303 British chambered rifles know do do a quick depression then release of the ammo in the magazine which sorts the rounds out.

@25necron Жыл бұрын

I have the P14.believe their difference is the recoil. The P14 takes a 303 cartridge which is more ergonomic than the 03-06 of the P17.

@PatrickKroetz 7 ай бұрын

If the P-14 was built in America and has a modified Mauser action what makes it an Enfield? Isn’t the action on a reg .303 Enfield what makes it an Enfield? I have a Winchester 1917 and wondered the same, why call it an American Enfield?

@BattlefieldCurator 7 ай бұрын

The P14 was designed by the British at Enfield… that’s why.