Battlelore (Second Edition) - Shut Up & Sit Down Review

[@autolykos9822]

16:00 - There is a counterexample. In Greek wrestling, if one of the fighters dies, he has automatically won - because he's now incapable of giving up...

[@ithinkitsaurus]

yeah but i bet he's disqualified from future matches.

[@theo6525]

If he got up and asked for anther fight I'm sure they'd let him have it

[@elonwhatever]

Talk about commitment :p

[@Eidenhoek]

I don't see that in the wiki. And given you'd...well. Okay, you'd get a point trivially, as having them touch the ground is...trivial. But if that's not the third point, they can't be ready for the bout to continue, so...

[@GavinAnderegg]

17:50 This is one of my favourite SU&SD videos because of this ending. It's so honest and human, and I love the tune. Thanks for making videos about games, you folks. You rock!

[@thomasczernik2046]

These reviews are so witty and entertaining. I like watching these not only for the game review but for the show!

[@Yriel129]

SU&SD is the low-key Top Gear of board games. If you enjoy the banter and the skits you don't even need to be a full-blown gamer to appreciate the concept.

[@markbaker465]

That part at the end with the guitar - what a great point. If it's your thing and it helps you escape reality for a few hours, go for it. Isn't that why we play games? I think it's easy for a lot of people to forget that and get wrapped up in the latest, shiny thing or what the 'best' game is.

[@IvanSensei88]

9:10 I didn't see the bow on that archer card and legit thought he was dabbing.

[@execdd17]

When this video started, I'll admit, I thought this guy was too silly and almost closed it. About 60 seconds later, I realized that he's absolutely hilarious! Entertaining and informative

[@martyrking2288]

I LOVE this game. I bought up every army expansion. But I’ve only played it 3 times. It is such a rare occasion I get a chance to play a 2-player game and the 2-player game category is so competitive that this game would get left out. So I painstakingly sold my Battlelore. Rebellion is my 2-player game of choice for a long game and I’ll stick with MTG or Onitama for a quick 2-player game. I still miss my Battlelore tho…

[@Wolfvonhinslik]

I have to say, I got M44 and hated it. I played several games that the whole game I didnt get a single left flank (or whatever) the whole game just to have my whole army die because most of it was on the left flank. they stood there and died. it happened in every game i played (3-4 games) so I sold it I picked up battlelore and the minor rules changes where you can discard a card to just give one unit an order anywhere, the magic, the fact that my units can attack back if they arnt dead, the army building and setup, the components, everything I found better. I hated M44 but I love Battlelore

[@xGarrettThiefx]

M44 is just too simplistic and shallow, what a pity though... if only it had more meat on the bone in a manner of speaking.

[@Wolfvonhinslik]

I wound up picking up Tide of Iron, WAY better game than M44 and actually has strategy and tactical decisions

[@davidvoderberg6727]

I have tide of iron, and asked people about Memoir. They said if you went tide, you dont need memoir...

[@MrRipYourHeadOff]

that's a typical "Command and colors" problem. It's why I'm not willing to spend 60 bucks on memoir 44 even though I know it can be a fun game. It's mostly just frustrating and feels like a total coin flip. To those above saying they prefer tide of iron, fuck yeah that game is awesome, but I think TOI is miles more sophisticated than memoir 44 and theyre almost incomparable

[@GrubbinGrouch]

Man, you guys are uploading like freakin crazy. keep it up , loving the reviews!

[@brettthurston1704]

I’ve never been so entertained while being taught a game before. I’m giving you all my internet points! Thanks for the video. Putting Battlelore on my Buy List!

[@Claymen7]

Canada in peace mr. Dean I miss the ordinary feel of the oldschool SUSD without all the great production values they have now. Hope you're happy with your thing and you don't need the escapism anymore. :)

[@gabef9538]

3:22 Palidan: That's just a stupid hippogriff! Druid: It's not just a hippogriff! It's a roc! [begins weeping] It's a roc. [sobbing] A rooc! A rooc! [climbing on top of the roc] It's a big, beautiful, old roc! Oh, the pioneers used to ride these babies for miles! And it's in great shape.

[@PaperJoelio]

Theory: Paul is cute. Evidence: 2011 Paul is cute. 2014 Paul is cute. 2019 Paul is cute. Conclusion: Paul is cute.

[@Ptangmatik]

Oh wow, and now he's fenced a bunch! Prophetic

[@Zaloomination]

This guy is hilarious! What an amazing video! I just came from SU&SD's review of War of the Ring and THIS game looks actually approachable and not totally scary! plus I love the fantasy theme. My son are first generation board gamers and we currently love Dragonwood, Castle Panic, Labyrinth. This game looks more complicated but that's a good thing, and it keeps with the fantasy theme we both love. Thanks for the review, I truly enjoyed watching!

[@Dundoril]

The game if thrones version is also good. And at least when I bought it pretty cheap

[@benjaminteixeira4709]

“A lot like the magic you’ll probably have in your own home”

[@EpicGamingNight]

I love this game! FFG don't let battlelore die!

[@cardsandchit]

If they treated Battle of Westeros ass well as they do BL2nd I would be so happy.

[@thenachomancandysavage4074]

and they let it die

[@thepikay4378]

@@thenachomancandysavage4074 I'm so glad I got all the Faction Expansion just in time. Would have liked to see another faction like elves and dwars though. :/

[@gregorycuddey6911]

I have the very first edition of battlelore. What a difference FFG made with the scenarios and goals! In the DoW version, you win by eliminating a specific number of units. The scenarios are also numbered the same way as they are in Memoir 44.

[@jubez187]

This was the first SUSD review I ever watched. miniature market had BL2e on clearance so I picked it up, loving all Terrinoth games thus far, and watched this. Loved it. Subscribed.

[@northlakeghost]

Stumbling upon this one really late. Love the current SU&SD crew, but miss you Paul!

[@carpemkarzi]

Man I love these reviews. Keep up the great work

[@SaxonChronicles]

this is the first time I have ever watched this channel. the guy is so talented at what he does. this is great

[@fmoros]

so much work on each video. Thank you.

[@Lugo428]

It was a few weeks ago. And I spent money to get this game because of this review. SU&SD, I love you, but damn you.

[@loganmcallister3327]

Somewhere in the legendary forest of Lewisham... there were police sirens

[@briandjquinn]

Oh you bought Rahdo's old glass table, good to see it still getting to see some games ;)

[@TastyPinecone]

One of my favorite reviews, such a sombre tone. After all this time just got my second copy with Terror of the mists included from the secondary market. I love stabbing a demon with a pike.

[@iphatbass]

I'm playing this on my phone right now! Can't wait to get physical edition, so i can play it with my friends!

[@fuzzy4461]

Its not technically a board game but you guys should reveiw Warhammer 40k at some point

[@everchosenlily]

@ARTHUR TROY Well, just "40k" propably means "The current edition of Warhammer 40,000"

[@Luke-mt8dr]

Hilariously creative! Thanks SU & SD!

[@refreshdaemon]

I wish the game had at least one more faction come out for it before FFG closed the doors on it. But it's still fun with what we got so I'm glad to have at least this much for it.

[@dennisduigou5384]

Or...eliminate the VP and muster rules. Get all expansions and play with all units available to each faction, to the death (modify a reserve unit rule to suit your taste). Add beer/weed and Iron Maiden concert DVDs and Bob's your uncle, you are in for a good evening.

[@thenachomancandysavage4074]

It sucks they discontinued this game,went on amazon and jesus the prices are insane now.

[@Squatch_needs_no_heroes]

Actual historical footage.

[@josh1674]

These flanking mechanics work better for medieval combat than they do WWII combat so YES.

[@MrSaturn012]

Time to remind SUSD that they're getting old by pointing out that the joke at 3:55 is slowly becoming accurate :)

[@bartekbziukiewicz2651]

Im in a cubboard was act funny . Thanks for your work i want to buy a board game but i dont want to buy games just to find out if i like them. Verry helpful video thank you

[@ScarriorIII]

It's been a few years, and I'd forgotten how much of a drug this game is.

[@greenghost2008]

I love the closet's audio.

[@OmegaViper]

boardgames practically require having nails :P

[@istandonfeet]

Can anyone tell me what the tune is?

[@Pathfinder8789]

This video is brilliant. Best review of an amazing game I've ever seen.

[@CollectorsDomain]

The way you describe this game names it sound exactly like heroscape!. Please do a review on that!

[@Zaloomination]

I have a question on retreating. If an archer rolls a flag and forces me to retreat at such an angle that there is not one hex directly behind me but 2, a left and a right, which hex do I retreat to? Thanks for the help.

[@rowbot5555]

It should be your choice in that case

[@NikoTeaJay]

Attacker decides before rolling

[@Zaloomination]

@@NikoTeaJay ive since discovered boardgamegeeks.com rules forums which are essential 😍

[@ultimasys]

I was born in 2000, that joke made me smile lmao

[@willrfrench]

Miss you, Paul

[@Lugo428]

Now I have to look for a place to store this game. God damn it...

[@DieterDietz1]

Nay to M44 but yay to Battlelore.

[@OmegaViper]

It needs a Tower and a Cannon

[@lc7664]

Battle Masters?

[@VioletDeliriums]

could you please tell me how big the hexes and tiles are?

[@lovroklaric1346]

any idea where to get expansion for battlelore second edition these days looked everywhere and justcant find it :(

[@박찬우-q5m]

It's OOP. Probably gone forever unless FFG decides to revive Battlelore. There is still hope though since new Descent might give new life to other Terrinoth games.

[@LaserCat006]

Answer me this! is Battle Lore better then Mage Wars Area? im trying to find a really good 2 player game to play with my friend but both these games seems to have a lot of expansions....so im not sure which one to dive into...?

[@gunnargud]

Battlelore

[@LaserCat006]

Ok, but how much better is it from Mage Wars Arena?

[@daekwankim]

One thing definitely Battlelore has on top of Mage Wars is that you can pick up and go with new players.

[@LaserCat006]

daekwankim Cant you do that with Mage Wars too?

[@daekwankim]

From my experience, Mage Wars would be too much for anyone without previous CCG experience. Battlelore is a great intro to mini games. Mage Wars is a great 1v1 game for Magic enthusiast. Battlelore is basically done with expansions though. Mage Wars pumps out new expansions for the hardcore fans. These expansions makes the game deeper, but it also builds walls for new comers.

[@koshgam]

Love this review, thx Paul! Your amazing!

[@Celticjesus]

I was always disappointed Battles of Westeros...which is BattleLore: Game of Thrones, but more personality-driven. And I consider that a positive.

[@colmhain]

Its a Krelmet

[@yitan345]

i killed all the other side in a game of bloodbowl and draw because my players never could grab the slipery ball and score

[@PMMagro]

This game is like Memoir 44 but better. Fro me the big scenarioes with multiplayer is teh only better part of M44 and also the theme.

[@Jessie_Helms]

This is why an American accent is better for clear communication imo... law and lore sound very different with my accent.

[@stuartreed944]

8:15 I spotted a UFO!

[@30Salmao]

I fence since 2013 (it's 2020 as I write this), if you are thinking as you fence you are doing it wrong xD You think training and execute when fencing. cheers :)

[@박찬우-q5m]

Watch their review of Conan, where Paul actually learn how to fence!

[@gordonstewart5774]

The first edition of Battlelore had many expansions and scenarios, much better IMHO.

[@tazgirl_]

I hope you see this comment so bad, I’ve seen you reply to new comments on old videos before so let’s hope you see this one as I have a burning question: how does Paul have a minecon exhibitor badge?

[@shady610]

The price point is keeping me away. That and being only 2 players. But I would love for someone to bring it to game night so I can play it m

[@davedogge2280]

Mario Sickenberger I think ffg are having a flash sale for this game.

[@jcfmansson9243]

Mario Sickenberger it's currently 29$ on Amazon

[@paintmylittleworld4367]

Link please!

[@davedogge2280]

paintmylittleworld yeah I've got it already but I see it as around $60 or £60 depending on which amazon country you are looking at.

[@gordonstewart5774]

The first edition of Battlelore had many expansions and scenarios including an Epic exp. for 4 ,6, or 8 players.

[@jaapnijhof5701]

I love Battlelore too, I have painted all the miniatures. And I love the gitaarsong.

[@TheShapingSickness]

9:35 stop doing that! you'll ruin the card edges :'(

[@Garuda989]

For many of my friends, and myself as well, it is hard to get over the Second World War theme of Memoir '44, and it'd be much easier to enjoy Battlelore. You know what I'm saying? Like some Hollywood movies can feel more like American propaganda and a rewriting of history (i.e. 'Blackhawk Down', and even 'Patton'), so can I game like Memoir '44 feel that way. You know? Am I crazy?!...

[@dustinboatman6134]

Plus, the Lore mechanic is just cooler than vanilla Memoir 44.

[@shaneannigans]

Rodrigo Sanches do Valle Silva 100% agree with you mate!! Memoir 44's theme, just like all historical war themes, turns me right off. I feel that war isn't a simple good vs evil thing and the fact that many soldiers on both sides weren't fighting for the political beliefs of their leaders as they'll have us think frustrates me. HOWEVER, throw a fantasy theme in where there are armies of demons unapologetically killing people or a souless, mindless undead force puppeteered by a power-hungry and mad necromancer and I'm in. I have Battlelore and it is AMAZING!!! How amazing? I'm a solo boardgamer so I control both sides. It's one of my favourite games and I've never even played against another human player!!! :)

[@trinstonmichaels7062]

Trinston was here

[@fritzbauer5043]

great video

[@OmegaViper]

Dead Footballers.. that would be Mutant League :P

[@davedogge2280]

I knew this was made last summer as he claims he didn't fence but I saw him in a video with swords. Also I dunno if these guys are in London, Canada or both !

[@HayabusaTaichou]

They've had videos on their own website for a while but started using youtube a bit back. Most of the videos you see here are old ones they've been re-uploading; for the sake of having them all here and giving people who recently found them content I guess. Conan was their last really new video, Paul lives in Canada, Quinns and Matt in England.

[@Bakobiibizo]

Lies. You've fenced

[@RulebooksForYou]

RIP

[@TheWhokulele]

This reminds me a little of heroscape.

[@dustinboatman6134]

Being an old Heroscape player, this game replaced it for me. I love Heroscape but the size of my collection, and the time to set up made this game a better fit for me and my house, lol. I would say if you are a HS player you would love this.

[@ballsofdoom3124]

Dustin Boatman Are there expansions for this? I played Heroscape for years as well, loved the game but had to sell off my collection.

[@Dezfafara88]

really funny, subscribed at 9:20

[@dechain1927]

out of print :(

[@jejouejeuxpartageolivier8867]

Monti python like :)

[@williammcneil6730]

paul i need you to sing stone hinge by spinal tap :)

[@BaggyMcPiper]

FINALLY

[@hdirty80]

It's wrong to compare it to memoir... this is second edition of Battlelore. Check out the Battlelore from days of wonder that ffg bought and killed.

[@V081WLBlue]

You've been lecturing and you can't afford the rent!!!!!!! mmmhhh never seen a poor lecturer!

[@Cheapstall]

Paint your minis

[@kosterix123]

2 hours is too long.

[@Zaloomination]

the setup can take some time so that factors into it