BATTLETECH: The Jenner

[@Argascend]

"The only problem for the Jenner is it may look cool while doing it, but in truth it's really overheating." I love this

[@TheGreenKnight500]

When I played through the Battletech video game, I got fed up with the Jenner's heat problem. I also realized that I wasn't really using the jump jets. So, I ripped out the jump jets and filled the space with more heatsinks and armor. It was a pretty good modification. I recommend it.

[@aprinnyonbreak1290]

Ye. I do often like keeping 2 jets on a lot of Mechs, just because that's usually enough to make it up cliffs and the like, but generally, I quite like pulling jets off myself.

[@MrDmitriRavenoff]

In TT this is a common mod. Also dropping the SRM-4.

[@iller3]

I always get the sense that jumpjets are kinda wasted on AI opponents. That sort of movement option only shines against enemies that are already on equal ground in armor and gunning but do not have an omniscient awareness of where you are at all times

[@Kitkat-986]

I combine that with downgrading the SRM to a two tube launcher for extra heat sinks and armor. I need every bit I can get of both.

[@ImperviousSC]

I did the exact same in my MW5 campaign. The Jenner is quite a beast at 35 tons with this simple change.

[@GliderBane]

I ran a mercenary campaign for some friends I let them choose from a selection of 35 ton mechs, but there was only one of each. There was almost a fist fight over who would get the Jenner.

[@jamesricker3997]

You should have held a trial of possession for it

[@tylerpeterson3281]

"Fine, but the Firestarter is mine!" "LIKE HELL IT IS!!!"

[@bopaintsminis]

"You'll take the ostscout and you'll LIKE IT!!"

[@MKmaki6094]

So who won this Trial of Possession

[@arbhall7572]

I could live without a Jenner....if the other choice was a Hollander. Otherwise, you just picking weird way to die

[@operkoi8954]

You know a mech is good when the clans discovered the design through espionage and happily use it with few changes compared to their other retrofits (Jenner iic)

[@robertb7293]

The Jenner has been such a weird bookend for my time with Battletech that its hard to even crack my usual jokes. It was the very first mech I killed in MW'89, and I quickly brushed them off as just another tissue paper light. Came back quite a few years later to run all Jenner lances in BT and MW5, because my brother wanted to see me cry tears of impotent rage. Turned it around and curb stomped my OG Shadow Hawk. Jenny's been patient with my bullshit. She's a feisty mech.

[@Iknowtoomuchable]

It's generally not the biggest threat on the board, but it's never one that can be ignored.

[@kailenmitchell8571]

It is an amazing flanker

[@braddl9442]

I mean just imagine how many of these are actually out there, constant production over hundreds of years, and for every two killed you can prob make another frankenstien replacement from left over parts if you were trying to operate as merc unit. So attrition of the total number over the centuries would be slow, esp with new ones coming off the assembly lines the entire time. There are many 1000s of these things all over the sphere and Periphery and deep Periphery and even the clan freeborn units by now from captured stockpiles from the various clan wars.

[@Spartaner251]

imagine how many you can franken mech with destroyed javelins! you get the med lasers into the torso and get two arms with hands!

[@axiomshift4666]

They were making 1350 a year for a while so yeah they must just be everywhere.

[@foxdavion6865]

Common Combine tactics are to send Dragons head on into the enemy then flank the enemy with Jenners. Dragons don't need to do much damage, the damage comes from the Jenners.

[@NemFX]

Jenner, the Rogue of the Battletech d&d party

[@BazztheBazz]

Ton for ton, best light Mech in the original game. Fast enough to keep the Locusts and Spiders in its sights, and able to punch well above its weight.

[@BigRed40TECH]

Just need to be very careful not to get legged lol

[@pentultimatearsehole9190]

Until it gets hit. Personally I love the Jenner, but damn it explodes easily.

[@Chris_Sizemore]

35 tons has a lot of great mechs. Panther is a real threat to the Jenner. Enough armor to soak a few rounds, and if the PPC ever doubles up on a location the Jenner is in serious trouble. The Firestarter is a huge threat to the Jenner too. Especially if you allow flamers to generate heat it comes down to who wins initiative.

[@Sturm01]

Cough wolfhound cough cough

[@jasonkrynicky3170]

I have fond memories of the Jenner. it had it's own theme song. 🎸 I'm gonna Party in your Back Arc I wanna stay until it gets Dark, Then I'll turn on my searchlight and then I'll Party ALL NIGHT.🎺

[@Bomfunker91]

The Jenner and Panther; left and right hook of the Coordinator.

[@jacksonbowns1087]

My favorite light mech, though unfortunately the original appearance looks goofy as hell to me, while the current redesign is actually a favorite of mine aesthetically. I like its combination of speed and firepower, feels almost orky in a way, but I fully admit that the heat problems are a serious damper on my enthusiasm.

[@Arvyn992]

The attacking from the sides reminds me the velociraptor line from Jurassic park

[@vali6717]

One of the few good things to come out of the Draconis Combine, the Jenner hardly needs an introduction as it speaks for itself. Can't really think of any better term to describe this thing as a pack hunter as a group of these things can and will savage heavier mechs if given the chance. If I had to design and use one post Clan Invasion I would upgrade it with Ferrofiberous or Endo Steel armor, replace the heat sinks with doubles, and remove the SRM launcher and ammo to boost both armor and heat sinks. I'd still be loathe to tangle with even medium mechs but or heavily armed vehicles but a pack of this variant would be a nightmare to face if caught unprepared.

[@chrissheffield5468]

It is not overheating; it is glowing with honor.

[@herpderp9774]

Ahh the Jenner, it is either a steel coffin on legs or the undertaker depending on the tactics and luck of the pilot wielding it.

[@DIEGhostfish]

6:38 Ah another symptom of Kurita's allergy to double heatsinks. Not AS bad as the Panther 10k which radically ups the heat output so it overheats standing still.

[@tullyDT]

Single heat sinks promote tactical thinking like bringing a lance of Jenners equipped with inferno rounds for their SRMs😈

[@BigRed40TECH]

The Coordinate assures me, you don't need those Doubles. Only those weak enough to rely on them, need them! Single Heatsinks promote discipline!

[@DIEGhostfish]

@@BigRed40TECH One easy trick to make two single heatsinks out of fishing weights, a Katana, and a double heatsink!

[@mrbigglezworth42]

They don't have an allergy to them, Kuritans are just so poor they have to share the one double they do have.

[@DIEGhostfish]

@@BigRed40TECH Like, I get that the Red DUke sat on his Helm Core copies till after it came out that NAIS already had their copy, but did he store them badly and manage to fry the part that talked about the DHS or something?

[@elchjol2777]

The favorite light mech of a buddy I play MW 5 with. The Jenner he uses,The Skirmisher, replaced the SRM with a LRM 5. It was a nice early game harassment mech and conventional vehicle remover. It was later replaced by better mechs but it is still in cold storage and while it killed few mechs,many of DCMS's,among other foes,tanks and aircraft were removed from the proximity of my early lances.

[@pikachufantastic]

I love the O version of the Jenner I know it's a heroic configuration, it's it's so fun since I don't use jump jets much, would on a Marauder, but not the Jenner

[@Eulemunin]

I always loved the Jenner. Still remember when I got started as a DCMS player. These little monsters were so fun.

[@michaelmills8205]

It's arguably the best light mech of the succession wars, though I feel that once the renaissance starts, the Wolfhound is a slightly better choice. Even then, the JR7-F is still going to be a challenging opponent for the Wolfhound. I also find it interesting that that the Dragon is another key Kuritan design and it was also never produced for the Star League or even during the Star League era.

[@magni5648]

The Wolfhound is basically purpose-designed to murder Panthers and Jenners.

[@robrib2682]

I've ran two of these things in a lance in MW5, this little thing has the power to vibe check mediums

[@Chris_Sizemore]

Honestly never understood the Clan-era upgrade for the Jenner. Just refitting the existing models to use double heat sinks is enough. Maybe upgrade the medium lasers to ER so you can reintroduce the heat problem for minimal functionality? A lot of the clan-era upgrade packages are really stupid, more focused on cramming in upgrades than actually improving performance. Like any other mech that pushes the upper end of speed, the Jenner benefits massively from an XL Engine. When your engine outweighs your combined weapons and armor it is time for an XL. You'll gain survivability by adding more armor. If the Jenner wants to truly be more survivable, rip out enough medium weapons to mount a large laser. Speed + range will do more to protect this mech than any armor upgrade. Laser rather than missiles because the laser is viable at any range, and the Jenner wants to close when it has an opportunity to finish a badly damaged opponent.

[@aprinnyonbreak1290]

Thems is some pretty unclanlike recommendations. Smh.

[@nickoftime5501]

“Really stupid” describes most mech techs in the sphere I think.

[@Sk0lzky]

It's actually fairly realistic/believable, when shit gets bad politicians, military and technicians alike panic and push dumb shit just for the sake of it instead of trying to reasonably evaluate. Appeasement of the public, fellow elites and allied rivals (noble houses in this case) always outweigh genuine results... *Tldr have you ever heard of A10 warthog?* XD

[@Chris_Sizemore]

@@Sk0lzky The A10 warthog was a much beloved special purpose fighter. Among the best tank hunters ever produced. Normally this is a role fulfilled by helicopters or multi purpose fighters. The A10 uses an autocannon instead of the missile systems most of its contemporizes are armed with for anti-armor. The Warthog was briefly decommissioned with no clear replacement. While the A10s were scheduled to be retired, that decision was reversed before it could be implemented and A10s are still in the field today. Honestly not sure this makes for a good analogy?

[@Demolitiondude]

they say it's dangerous. but it makes a great hockey puck.

[@jamesricker3997]

A Large Pulse Laser makes a good hockey stick

[@furikuri6585]

In the BT game the Jenner comes right behind the firestarter in the "go away and die" -list when facing light mechs... You don't wan't to get catched by this goofy looking murdermashine with your pants down, and you defenetly don't wan't this this in your rear Arc!

[@brianhenry152]

Definitely a solid choice for a light mech hunter-killer and recon unit! I love to pair this mech with a Phoenix Hawk in a light lance to give my opponents plenty to think and worry about. Both need to use their weapons wisely so as not to build up too much heat, but if used at the right time it can be a nasty surprise for an opponent that's let their guard down.

[@bopaintsminis]

My favorite 3025 light lance is still two panthers and two jenners. The jenners harass while the panthers lend fire support. Ether way, I try to take back or side armor with two of them, and the question becomes does my opponent give backs to the jenners or the panthers?

[@ChaosTicket]

Love the Jenner in 3025. Sure it lacks any medium or long range weapons, low armor, and a unusual number of jump jets(5 on a 7 walk speed) but its overall a good idea. Its combination of speed, jump jets, and short range firepower makes it better than than nearly any other light mech in its era. It has greater speed than any medium, heavy or assault mech. Upgrading it is fairly simple. Lostech upgrades can just make it better with greater speed, more jump jets, longer ranged weapons, and/or electronics.

[@frankb3347]

I think of the standard D variant as a blitzkrieg Mech. It can come in fast and hard but it has no staying power beyond the initial punch.

[@Taiko206]

For both of it's weaknesses, heat dissipation and low armor there's a simple solution that i always use for the Jenner, Wether it's in Battletech VG or MW5. I remove 2 of the lasers and replace the SRM4 with an SRM6, wich already lowers the heat , and the tonnage freed up by that i invest in extra armor .

[@Thud-pq8rl]

You want to know how good the Jenner is? During a 3025 4 mech tonnage limited tournament there where 21 Jenner 7-Fs in play. With 2 more 7-Ds. BTW There were only 26 players in tournament. I was one of the 7-F players. Nice video about a deadly little mech.

[@christianholzschuh6853]

I certainly like the idea to use the cocpit as a shield for the center torso and therefor the engine...

[@paulshealy1863]

The Jenner is best used for a drive-by. Dump every thing into an enemy mech and then next movement phase bolt for the nearest mountain to hide behind and cool down.

[@jamesoakes192]

Great to find the video for this and the catapult two of my favourite mechs

[@wolf2965]

AH, Jenner, just the right mech to make swarming tactics work.

[@faithmcclosky4528]

Love the Jenner, and great video as always. Mobility and speed are the best weapons of a Jenner, and I've used many a Jenner to bring down a larger prey.

[@captaingeneralconch]

Everytime I see and think about the Jenner all that comes to mind is the roadrunner

[@wheturangi]

Just use the Jenner-7F. It's a killer. Accept no other. Though I often only use the JJs to get out of trouble. It's always about running and getting those huge movement modifiers.

[@tullyDT]

In large point games take a pack of these armed with inferno rounds and and they'll cripple heaver mechs with heat

[@passgo8507]

Love this little mech. Looks like the black power ranger ninja megazord.

[@mattikuokkanen]

Jenner can also flip arms to rear arc. This gives Jenner's lasers effective 360 degrees arc of fire. SRM can be loaded with frag or inferno or other special ammo against variety of threats. Better to run inferno loaded Jenner cool, and fire no more than 3 of its weapons at a time. Speaking about which, even if Jenner were to lose 1 weapon for critical damage or whole arm, it still has plenty of firepower for the heat sinks it got.

[@alexanderhay7358]

as solely a jenner pilot - i approve

[@DawnOfDaybreak]

The Oxide was my first Hero Mech in MW5, and it carried me through a bunch of battles.

[@kylebarrie2887]

Getting rid of the srm4 is a good way to go as removes ammo explosions problems. You could get rid of some of the jump jets or all but it's up to you. It is pretty flexible as a mech.

[@garycannon4644]

love the Jenner easily one of my favorite light mechs

[@jakeand9020]

First time I ever even heard of the Jenner was way back in the Crescent Hawk on C64. The thing was terrifying.

[@supersaiyanmag-mattchad3389]

Yeah the Jenner is fantastic light Mech, I usually dump the jumpjets for more armor and might even limit the ammo so I can maximize it some more, if its a short contract. otherwise its got some good options mixing some flamers and short lasers to play around with weight, great video BigRed enjoying them alot! ^_^

[@rylian21]

Man, I love the Jenner. It might be the must useful light mech available, especially if you upgrade it with double heatsinks.

[@joshblack2362]

Finally the Jenner! Great upload as always!

[@BigRed40TECH]

You've not watched it yet! lol

[@oliverworley5162]

@@BigRed40TECH still gotta get the early comment in, and really we know it's going to be good before watching anyway

[@battlehymn6389]

One of my favorites. I like to drop the SRM and add a single and 2 tons of armor.

[@mathewkelly9968]

My Sword of Light will soon have Lances of these and Panthers , stockist finally got Strike Lances in stock plus the old school ones ive got .

[@BraindeadCRY]

I love the jenner for its functional, no gimmiks design. The combine wanted a hunter-killer so they designed a hunter killer. They didn't try to turn it into a multi function, do it all mech or give it tacticool gadgets it doesn't need and the result was a mech that did its intended job with legendary efficency.

[@chrisnelmes3786]

I replace the SRM-4 with an LRM-_5. Great for being a pain in the butt!!

[@upandaljm]

Great video for a great Mech. Always loved the Jenner. Still one of my favorite light Mechs in HBS Battletech.

[@thanatoastiii6341]

One of my all time favorite mechs

[@WolfHreda]

5:24 I love seeing pics from MechWarrior Tactics. It was such a shame that one spiraled into pay-to-win hell, because it was an interesting take on Battletech. And it made the Clint look fantastic.

[@BigRed40TECH]

I agree, I played it in Alpha and it seemed promising. Seemed. lol

[@WolfHreda]

@@BigRed40TECH a damn shame

[@WolfHreda]

​@@BigRed40TECHSo, my son kicked my ass in MegaMek the other night. And a big part of that was due to him running his Jenner 19 into the red and managing to avoid both a shutdown and an ammo explosion. Little shit. 😂

[@eezaak21]

In the early days of Mechwarrior Online the Jenner was amazing to play. Also benefited from bad netcode which gave it a "lag shield". Could basically kill any mech you wanted and the only major threat was other lights lol.

[@shakeemsymonds7362]

With how many of these exist, I wouldn't be surprised to see these as daily drivers to work

[@guitarhausdoesntknowwhatac3285]

Lethal, Lethal light mech; operating in packs they can assassinate anything smaller then a god damn atlas.

[@derloco2035]

The Jenner is one of my absolute favourites in classic Battletech. It is fast, packs a punch and annoys the crap out of the other lance's commander. I also love the sculpt of the original miniature because it looks so hillarious XD

[@Reverb154]

This is an example of getting it right the first time, and not f***ing it up.

[@donaldcampbell3043]

Been a fan of House Kurita from the first time I played the tabletop game in 86, liked the Jenner for its speed and heavy armament of weapons, it's movement gave you options...

[@androssthered1157]

Such a great light mech

[@JS-kr8fs]

What a fun and dangerous mech...for all of two turns, before it's either cooking its pilot through or its own heat, or its critical fusion reactor.

[@mightybaloo1880]

Favorite light mech. Hands down. I will brook no argument.

[@sixofnine9407]

My go to light mech when I need speed, but want to do some hit and run damage.

[@impressiveprogressive7343]

Just think about it, what if the battlefields of 200 years from now are still dominated by 20th century armored vehicles? What if today we were still reliant on armored knight on horseback? The battlemech is the pinnacle of warfare technology that is why they are still on the battlefields 3, 4 and 500 years on after they were originally built. Some designs like the Banshee have been on the battlefields since the earliest days of the battlemech development and are contemporary with the first battlemech the Mackie. The Jenner is one of my favorites due to its speed and the various designs that offer either laser, missile or ballistic load outs. The recent clan refit and release of the Jenner 2C was an immense improvement in armor maneuverability and firepower. And is current my favorite iteration of the venerable machine. The 2C is so capable it can stand toe to toe with mediums and slug it out until it either wins ,loses, overheats or runs out of ammo and withdraws. Truly a phenomenal machine.

[@louhodo5761]

Finally the best light mech ever made.

[@smokey_mcbong]

Would you do a segment on the wolfhound light mech? The mech suposedly built for the purpose of engaging both the Panther and Jenner.

[@BigRed40TECH]

We will once I hit 3039.

[@natakuu13]

A jenner with all srms and keeping uts speed is just an all around fun mech

[@andrewweltlich9065]

While I prefer the Javelin, the Jenner is certainly a solid light mech

[@ashaide]

I hated these in Crescent Hawk's Inception and I hated these in MWO Closed Beta (all those years ago!). Laser Jenners were just... grr. I think of all the classic designs, this little bord had the most impression on me. It kinda sucked to not see it among the designs of the old boxed set. I think I reverse-engineered it using the mech creation rules before getting a copy of the appropriate TRO :D

[@TheStraycat74]

3050 full clan tech rebuild: I HATE odd numbers, so 7/11/5 movement just would not do. Clan Endosteel, 6 tons of clan Fero-Fiberous, Clan XL and DHS, and then up the speed to 8/12 with an 8 jump as well. Prime config: Streak SRM-4, 4 clan ERML's, and a quarter ton of cargo makes this fairly true to the original, just faster, better armed, better armored, and with twice the heat sinking capability. Alt config A: 4 Medium Pulse Lasers, a clan flamer, and one clan MG with a half ton of ammo. Alt config B: Nine Small Pulse Lasers, and a quarter ton of cargo. because why not? Clanner pulse lasers have longer range, better to hit, and more damage.

[@The_Captainn]

I've been tormenting enemies in Mechwarrior Online with a Jenner IIC packing 6x SRM6s, and I approve this message.

[@braddl9442]

The clans thought it was a good enough design to make and upgraded version of it from the stuff Wolfs Dragoons sent back to the clans for study.

[@patrickkenyon2326]

6 SRM 6-packs? What is the IIc a 50 ton?

[@The_Captainn]

@@patrickkenyon2326 35t. MWO is almost like 12v12 Solaris matches, as opposed to extended missions, so I can sacrifice ammo count, allow for a lighter engine and then dump the rest into weapons and armor. It's a shotgun on a motorcycle. build code for anyone who plays MWO AZ5D40J0|

[@GUMMRUCHK]

Just today I survived a MW5 battle because my Jenner was able to speedily get to the evac spot dodging all the laser beams and PPC shots. It's speed really does make up for the armor.

[@Herbile7]

The Hero varient, The Oxide, was the first mech I cracked 1k damage with back in Old MWO

[@3ggh3ad]

favorite light mech

[@wolfyhalfmoon819]

4 medium lazers is my personal favorite setup. For me it just feels like I'm doing Major damage with pinpoint accuracy. heck I only look for mechs that can do at least 4 mediums minimum.

[@tumate45]

When I really try to hate on the Combine and capellans for their sneaky assassination and hatred for merc, but it's hard to do that when some of the best mechs are made by them.

[@undertakingbusiness2548]

The only 'mech I like levelled pilots in. It means you put this bad boy against IS assaults. The JR7-F murders them. I love watching the AS7 jackball realize the AS7 isn't even the deadliest xx7 'mech.

[@ycplum7062]

A nimble and agile knife fighter. In the old Mechwarrior PC games, I dumped the SRMs and jumpjets for heat sinks and extra lasers (and/or armor). Great for raiding missions. Not that great for defense missions.

[@squirrellordsgaming2772]

Excellent video! Would you consider putting the assault Mech the Nightstar on your to do list for the future?

[@BigRed40TECH]

I'm just going through the TRO's in order. So it will come, but you won't see the Nightstar until I hit around 3058 :(

[@squirrellordsgaming2772]

@@BigRed40TECH OK.

[@spacewolfblackmane19]

It has respectable weapon, but damn i don't know if i just have especially bad luck or something with these mech's but they always seem to over heat at the worst times, and die to a stiff breeze

[@MasterVega]

Ah, the Jenner, the third or fourth (or sometimes both) mech in my lance for the first third of both Battletech 2018 and Mechwarrior 5. It's really, really effective; I just don't want to be the guy piloting it. >_>

[@0mikr0n]

I'm your Jenner Jockey. Point me in the right direction and I'll keep the enemy pissed and on the defensive all day.

[@leoismaking]

It's a testament to the Jenner that the only light mech I like more, the Wolfhound, had to be specifically designed to counter it.

[@mattblom3990]

Timothy Seal's Firemoth remix as the music here, nice choice. Always liked the Jenner was my 2nd Mech in Mercs 2. Good fodder to fry in Battletech on STEAM.

[@ASNS117Zero]

I always take out the SRM 4 and the jump jets, and use the tonnage to fill in with more heat sinks and armor.

[@BigRed40TECH]

Heresy! lol

[@ASNS117Zero]

@@BigRed40TECH Guess I'm a heretic then. :D

[@connorriggs1518]

Everyone needs a little Jenner in their lives

[@tombalevre3964]

What of the Jenner 2c ?

[@BigRed40TECH]

That's something that will be covered when we hit 3055.

[@tombalevre3964]

@@BigRed40TECH Thanks, Alot of reveiwers just glance over or ignore the clan 2c variants of alot of mechs.

[@rjsc2006]

What music is this? I remember it from one of the mechwarrior games

[@anthonyspecf]

So one could say the Jenner is the Mitsubishi A6M Zero of Battlemechs. Sacrificing durability for speed and maneuverability... Oh and it is also being made and fielded by space Japan. That too :)

[@Kaiju-Driver]

Lol me and my friends call this thing The battle bus we're actually quite fond of it.

[@EricDaMAJ]

Unless it's part of a skilled player's well put together lance, the Jenner is just another lightbulb on stilts like the Locust.

[@sauceelf653]

May I know the song at 2:00 ?

[@heymay724]

Also fuck I need that background track. I've been looking for it for weeks now

[@timebrain3188]

Look up Timothy Seals' mechwarrior tracks, it's one of those.

[@garettcastle2335]

If the pilot toggles all his medium lasers to one trigger pull, that will hurt any mech it hits, regardless of the targets weight class.

[@Dang_Near_Fed_Up]

One of the few machines that can effectively deal with multiple Spiders.

[@bthsr7113]

The C3 and (s) variants seem like my speed, though I certainly wouldn't say no the N if someone else is footing the bill.

[@sevendaggerssix7298]

JR7-D(S) XL250 engine, max armour, 2 srm 4 with 2 tons ammo, 2 light ppc. 10 dhs, 2 jumpjets. 115/124 kph.

[@kazekamiha]

I lean towards heavier mechs myself, so lights aren't my go to. That said... For a mech of it's weight it's got pretty good firepower. I wouldn't call it my favorite light mech, but it earns respect.