Old convertables have the worst rust under the window frame chrome. I restored my friends 1967 Firebird, FirebirdCentral had the upper cowl and upper dash panels but the I had to make the entire lower window trough and repairs in the upper body itself. They also had the floors, seat risers, both quarters, door skins, outer wheelhouses, tail pan. Rockerpanel and lower fender rust was typical. Rebuilt a Ram Air III and matching Turbo 400, pipes, brakes, suspension, steering followed by three months of block sanded high build primer. Gun Metal two stage urethane, color sand and polish ..I'm retired so I did 4-6 hrs/day and the project took me and entire year ..but it was perfect with is new 400 Hood and tach and ram air kit. I made so nice pocket cash but after all that work, ..I wish it was mine. LOL
@jeffreywhite76573 жыл бұрын
Awesome patch work guys! Love to see the rebirth of the old rusty cars being done by passionate pros
@troyeberling24324 жыл бұрын
"No short cut on perfection." Hahaha. As you use a da to finish mud and weld panels over rusty inner structure. You guys are hilarious.
@OGSAFUNKATEER19012 жыл бұрын
All that work on that 61 impala and it's not even a bubble top 😂
@MrLincoln874 жыл бұрын
Lets not forget this is a tv show from 2008 lol
@johnshader42874 жыл бұрын
Wow. Just like most restoration shops. If the customer can't see the rust.....It isn't there. lol
@ozahmed45232 жыл бұрын
I love Powernation! How about some European or Japanese or even Russian iron? People would pay top dollar for different resto-mods.
@yaboiterumi19042 жыл бұрын
I wanna see them do some 90s jdm
@gregmaggielipscomb92464 жыл бұрын
Get a plastic hawk for mixing bondo, cardboard will allow hardner to escape your mixing ratios.
@aliazimian4 жыл бұрын
7:28 So what about the rust in the insides?
@_JoeMomma4 жыл бұрын
shhhh we don't talk about that
@ΑΘΑΝΑΣΙΟΣΘΑΓΓΟΠΟΥΛΟΣ3 жыл бұрын
That spot need sandblasting primer and paint to protect it. I am 15 and know more. Hahaha
@youngstersclothing4 жыл бұрын
Anyone know a good shop in California that will do a good job of blasting and powder coating?
@zippythechicken4 жыл бұрын
don't use regular bondo over weld patches even a pinhole will let moisture through and make it pop... use high resin filler like bondo glass, kitty hair especially on thicker applications. it will reduce call backs and last longer.. remember filler is talc with resin .. lightweight filler has less resin so whenever you can use a higher resin filler.. takes longer to kick but its worth the wait
@youtubecarspottersguide14 жыл бұрын
good series.someones buys the 61, know whats in the build.never know whats under that nice paint @ used classiccar lot buyer beware.To bad bout the 69 firebird convertible, very rare cars ,so many convertibles are so far rusted out from sitting in a field for 30 yrs"if you want to save a car put it indoors"saw 68 camero near the beach salt air ate it up to far gone to save , your 61 or 69 firebird looks cheery
@peterd76034 жыл бұрын
Gravelly voiced announcer makes everything really macho man. I guess it makes you forget this half-breed Impala/Biscayne rusty mess.
@canadianmarauder19234 жыл бұрын
Good episode guys. Really hit home. Two of my bucket list cars were featured and I got a buddy who wants to sell me his dad’s 67 firebird vert project that looked very similar to yours. It’s been sitting in a garage for 20yrs at least but his dad hacked it up pretty bad before he gave up. I’m retired and half done an 03 marauder restomod so I have most of the tools and some experience but the fact you guys passed up on your firebird has me worried. I just keep thinking it’s a 67 firebird convertible and it’s got to be saved.
@iknklst4 жыл бұрын
That there Firebird is one of them specially modified factory tubs with the "Metal Delete" high perfomance option, less weight, flow-through air cooling, and built-in inspection holes that also act as deer whistles when at highway speed. Unfortunately, not very rare for GM cars built in that decade.
@jameswood6784 жыл бұрын
What about all that rust INSIDE the rockers that you sealed in with your patches? Is there no way to fix that? Seems like it'll just come bubbling through and make holes, eventually.
@zososldier4 жыл бұрын
There are places that you can have your car dunked in chemicals that will convert the rust. Then you can use these little hoses that attach to paint guns/cans to coat the inside of cavities you don't have access too like rockers or pillars.
@wagonmaster19744 жыл бұрын
The KR only had 2 headlights. The inboard lamps were Lucas Square 8 driving lights. Getting hard to find.
@MoparMan-ff8fb4 жыл бұрын
You never use a orbital sander on bondo . block sanding - 40 grit down to 80 then lighter grit till you get it smooth and never put bondo over a painted or painted area that has been sanded . it's not a good foundation for bondo . 24 to ruff up the metal surface for bondo to stick to. Your also suppost to get all rust off of the metal surfaces and spray weld through primer with zink between the sandwiched panels
@DeceptiveCobras4 жыл бұрын
it is simple for you none Body guys T-tops or Convertibles or even roadsters = RUST BIG TIME as in Man hours it is not a factor of your own time and Cost IF it is your passion and your project/baby I throw in over 600+ hours into a 68 mustang ( when I used to live in the US ) and I yes I would do it again But when you take on too many projects like this Show has its easy to get carried away and before you know it its over.. but.. Stick with it Good show Love what you guys do at Powernation ..
@donsmanufactory3 жыл бұрын
You guys need Fitzy’s Fabrication for that Firebird.
@AutoYoung5 ай бұрын
THESE ARE OLD EPISODES!!! EARLY 00’s OLD!!!
@curtismann61194 жыл бұрын
Great work love your videos and keep safe out there and keep the videos coming
@bilbobaggins47104 жыл бұрын
Let's go burn a store
@lanceocallaghan50524 жыл бұрын
What not but wield the rust repairs instead of having overlapped joints on the inside?
@biscuitboy36174 жыл бұрын
For the Firebird, just get a brand new Dynacorn body, and start from there!
@mattfarahsmillionmilelexus4 жыл бұрын
$ Sentimental value $
@americanpatriot2.063 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure that wasn't available when this episode was made back in 2006.
@donaldmills42014 жыл бұрын
Damn, you use half the can of mud on that fender? lol
@MrAcuta734 жыл бұрын
Yes...but then removed 90% of it. Kinda how that works. Fill and remove to flush. If it's too much it was because you left huge gaps in the metal or you have bulges in the paint.
@jeffpalmeri91024 жыл бұрын
It's funny that the only thing that hasn't changed in 50 years is mixing the bondo on a cut up piece of cardboard. :)
@williswhatchutalkinbout43674 жыл бұрын
That mustang is running a little rich!
@Karkmotuning4 жыл бұрын
I looked at that black smoke too.Somebody ought to check the air filters or tune the carbs on that one 😁
@donx034 жыл бұрын
Gents after putting in all that hard work, can the car be dipped in something to prevent future rust? Or this is a every 50 year restoration project.
@alt74884 жыл бұрын
rustproof it and avoid salt ...then it will last 100 years
@zososldier4 жыл бұрын
There are a few things you can do. You can sand blast it then dunk it in basically a ultra sonic cleaner to get all the rust in the cavities you can't reach. Once all of that is done, they make little hoses that attach to paint guns/cans that you can use to spray inside stuff you don't have access to like rocker panels or pillars. Once you paint the car, you can bed line the under side and that should stop rust from below. But like dude above me said, don't drive on salty roads. Ever.
@TickleFingers4 жыл бұрын
Sweet one wheel peel!
@rksanders134 жыл бұрын
How or what do you do to treat the braces behind the panels? What do you do to the back side of your patch panels to protect against rust. Obviously at times you cant get primer to those areas. So over time it will rot out again.
@nickygray46914 жыл бұрын
You guys need to do a 1965 Chevy Impala and paint it red
@johna.43344 жыл бұрын
Nah, midnight blue would be preferred.
@NVzla4 жыл бұрын
I believe all metal panels should drop in like a puzzle piece. All the potential stress in bent sheet metal will show up as issues in finished paint job and quality of work.
@nathanhighvoltage52594 жыл бұрын
Wrong.
@franciskelley69194 жыл бұрын
What’s the word on the history of the rear flat top visor I thought that was a belair thing ! My first car was a desert sand color “61 belair” ? 2 taillights ! Anybody know where there is “61” near mn.project car ?
@ΑΘΑΝΑΣΙΟΣΘΑΓΓΟΠΟΥΛΟΣ3 жыл бұрын
I think year one did the best battle again firebirds rust. They replaced all the sheet metal
@carmiethompson26764 жыл бұрын
PN can talk about cutting out rust sections & replacing w/ patches or filler patches all day. BIG DEAL! Once that rust section is ground down or cleaned out or replaced, what are some of the options to protect that bare metal? I've found that NAPA Paint offers a Zinc-based rattle can corrosion-resistant paint(NOT corrosion-proof) that will stand up to the arc heat & acts like a weld flux. So when everything is done, that section will last longer then just letting condensation make more rust. This is what I've been told by the NAPA rep. I'm sure there are other methods but it all comes down to protecting welded blind sections. Any protection is going to get burnt off from welding. Does PN have any suggestions for this dilemma?
@seanbailey85454 жыл бұрын
I never get why people overlap panels then weld em back together, your just asking for rust to come back.
@brysontrotman58652 жыл бұрын
You should look up old factory videos, they survived 50 plus years being used as daily drivers with almost every panel overlapped ... These cars will never see a rainy day and spend most of their time in a temp controlled environment, overlap welds aren't going to hurt a thing.
@seanbailey85452 жыл бұрын
@@brysontrotman5865 A factory style seam....and a poor restoration at 2 different things. One is engineered to last, Seam sealer, rust prevention coating and drains to help get water from between the panels....another is just a lazy repair.
@swampcritterisbackbaby1740 Жыл бұрын
Bondo and paint make a bodyman what he ain't.
@johnkilo34 жыл бұрын
I know this episode is like 12 years old but they're really just going to ignore the fact that they sealed in that rust on the inside? Did they think we wouldn't notice?
@jamesdiehl86902 жыл бұрын
isn't the rust the reason you call it red sled? lol 😆 😆 😆
@estpst4 жыл бұрын
Shelby KR is nice
@trakyboy51284 жыл бұрын
Is that Impala worth the wrk being put in to it !!!! I mean if you had to pay to have it done ???
@69shovlhed894 жыл бұрын
probably not, but its good video, and great that they saved it from the crusher
@Sir.VicsMasher4 жыл бұрын
What happened to project [Altered Ego]?
@ardennielsen37614 жыл бұрын
idles at 100mph like its just rolling around the block in town. needs a mechanical fan because driving around town an electric fan will drain the battery.
@terrybaptist7954 жыл бұрын
Word to the wise never half ass a car rebuild project.
@bilbobaggins47104 жыл бұрын
Hahahahaha
@bilbobaggins47104 жыл бұрын
My mantra is half ass it 🙋 FTW
@wilkesjournal4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that great advice. I'm sure all the half-assing will stop immediately now.
@allanlugo80954 жыл бұрын
69 fire bin ird quarter come with doors jams
@BobbyOfEarth4 жыл бұрын
Yep ..Classic Car Industries.. and they have the interior quarter panel braces.
@otsenres16364 жыл бұрын
Sometimes I'd trade all 30 years of auto mechanical knowledge for autobody skills...🤔😪
@blueridgeburnouts82654 жыл бұрын
Sweet cobra!
@GoodOlBoy19764 жыл бұрын
The origanail Shelbys are better than the new stuff that they claim to be Shelbys. You go back in time and get a real Shelby and you will not find a ford sticker any place on that car. Yea he got the cars from Ford but he removed all the ford stamping and anything that showed ford.
@CamaroAmx4 жыл бұрын
By the late 60s, Ford was building Shelby Mustangs in house with shelby’s approval. Shelby was too busy with the GT40 and other big projects. Shelby mustangs from about 67 forward are just licensed from Shelby. They still had to meet his approval. In many cases, Shelby’s team made the prototypes using Ford performance parts and a few custom touches and ford made the production ones.
@allanlugo80954 жыл бұрын
As a 69 bird owner. I think is a shame and sacrilegious to put a Chevy engine on a Pontiac....there are lots of powerful Pontiac engines available
@jameswood6784 жыл бұрын
They've been using Chevy engines in Pontiacs for 40 years. Plus, the all-aluminum LS7 is so much lighter and more powerful than most of that old iron. It's all GM; it's not like they're putting in a Ford or Dodge engine.
@mattfarahsmillionmilelexus4 жыл бұрын
They are. Those werte never exclusively Chevrolet engines, the were used in all divisions since introduction and are GM LS engines, not Chevy LS engines. And if you want modern power, smoothness, and efficiency, an old big block anything is the wrong place to look.
@allanlugo80954 жыл бұрын
I see that you are not a Pontiac person...you are entitled to your opinion. So are I....a 350 chevy...is Not the same as a 350 pontiac...difference in size ...and other major differences....I know pontiac was part of GM....but different branch. You had Buick chevy oldsmobile and many others...all Gm. But they all had their differences....you know what they say about opinions...we all have one....you know the rest...
@alt74884 жыл бұрын
ls1 and 2/3's where a Pontiac motor...... they came in the g8's...more commonly known as a holden commodore
@zososldier4 жыл бұрын
LS engines come in modern pontiacs. There is nothing wrong with doing a resto-mod
@thegeneralofsound4 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure what they are smoking but with that level of rust you'll have a catastrophic failure not to far down the road
@josedelao9124 Жыл бұрын
Proffesional butchers yeaaa its gonna be sold any ways.
@karmaduq4 жыл бұрын
Why did they go to all this trouble just to weld it back up with rust and sand inside? And that's *after* it was sent to be blasted? It all has to be pulled apart to start, resurfaced, primed... or else tear it apart again in a few years which nobody's gonna want to do, which means a death sentence for the car. At least blow it out good and fog what you can't get to with converter. Also the guy's supposed to be priming something (be busy for the shot) at 3:23 then lays the pan on it. Stop worrying about setting up shots and being cool, let the camera guy do their thing, and focus on the job. :)
@ImTheJoker4u4 жыл бұрын
Mud and paint makes it what it aint
@johnstephens76974 жыл бұрын
@John Ulicky, Yep, #FACTSMATTER!! 😁
@jajdevsingh75884 жыл бұрын
Good bro
@mattewromine564 жыл бұрын
Mustang king of the road more like king of the junkyard
@stephenvelden2954 жыл бұрын
You should never mix body filler on cardboard. The filler pulls the wax out of the cardboard and mixes it in with the filler. You should use metal, glass or plastic.
@nathandean16874 жыл бұрын
no safety glasses wat so ever. thats a osha no no.
@jamesplotkin46744 жыл бұрын
Especially while using a chisel. You guys should be setting good-practice examples
@otsenres16364 жыл бұрын
This!
@PainterFRO4 жыл бұрын
Lets cut all this rust out of the bottom of this fender then fill it with a quart of filler. Don't ever block sand the way he is doing right after the 10 min mark.
@raymondeldridge60684 жыл бұрын
What a one wheel peal hot rod all show no go lol 😂
@MrShade-tree4 жыл бұрын
What happened I thought you guys were up for a challenge the car doesn't look that bad you guys have to skills the money to do it !!
@JamesBrown-hs6vg4 жыл бұрын
Welding “SON” ! Goonzsquad
@oldz704 жыл бұрын
everything is easy when you get free shit to fix these cars.
@eskieman3948 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, right. 🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨 And I suppose that all that "fee shit" just automatically installs itself, no skills needed? Easy peesy?
@MrElPoderozo14 жыл бұрын
I thought that you were supposed to spray primer sealer( epoxy primer) onto the bare metal before putting the body filler.😳
@Moparmaga-14 жыл бұрын
Yes
@bozobaz304 жыл бұрын
Dont do anything these hacks do only watch this for shits and giggles and to point out everthing they do wrong
@bilbobaggins47104 жыл бұрын
No man...80 grit then plaster it on them prime the filler will seal it
@ФормулаВоды-ч9м4 жыл бұрын
Машина мечта
@frozenbits484 жыл бұрын
"tribute" trans am? oh, you mean Phony trans am.
@tranjavanadbia1234 жыл бұрын
JUNK THE FIREBIRD *
@kennethconnors53164 жыл бұрын
too bad there was no chemical acid dip company near by
@Hawlkeye-e9p4 жыл бұрын
Who finances these repairs? Is it a wealthy customer? Or a the business model that provides funding? Just wondered how that plays out.
@Captain_Dark4 жыл бұрын
I believe sponsors do.
@bilbobaggins47104 жыл бұрын
Lincoln welder... Edelbrock...GM Performance Parts...Matco Tools...Holley...and on and on
@zososldier4 жыл бұрын
Some are customer cars, some are host cars, a lot of it is sponsored parts.
@beeasy43603 жыл бұрын
I have never had the money to do what I want to my chevelle sold it to a friend who held it for 16 years 2 divorces child support 5 boys my kids are raised I got money 💰 out my ass no crazy chick 🐣 I’m gonna go ham on my chevelle my exs can suck it I’m out
@Trippleroc2 жыл бұрын
Wow..! What a Half ass hack job on this car LOL ..!
@Mrminister283 жыл бұрын
Buy more ear rings
@zezomustafa76193 жыл бұрын
duuuuude let us focus on one car
@steveosgood91824 жыл бұрын
or, you could get a southern car and avoid most rust
@johna.43344 жыл бұрын
Who's the wench riding shotgun in the `68 Shelby Cobra?
@ФормулаВоды-ч9м4 жыл бұрын
Серии подписуйте 1-2-3
@yuris61254 жыл бұрын
Так подписано всё в описании - сезон #..., эпизод #...
@СадыковРустам-б6е4 жыл бұрын
3
@azura32774 жыл бұрын
naaaaa man, these guys welds look like dog shit, i swear thats hideous, i feel bad for the guys that buy these cars after they are done, wtf.
@fe33704 жыл бұрын
O cara fez uma solda sem retirar a oxidação de dentro. Serviço porco....
@johna.43344 жыл бұрын
English please!
@fe33704 жыл бұрын
@@johna.4334 The guy soldered without removing rust from the inside ... Pork service
@rustyaxelrod4 жыл бұрын
Trans am with an LS? 👎
@bradbeasley76694 жыл бұрын
whats so great about ls original is better
@Karkmotuning4 жыл бұрын
And the sound of a healthy 400 compared to an LS... no competition!
@AngelLuisTrinidad4 жыл бұрын
That metal work on the Impala was awful. Can't believe you put that on video. Go to the guys of Monkey Garage to learn excellent metal work.
@bmstylee4 жыл бұрын
Yeah no. I've seen quite a bit of hacks from the gas monkey garbage guys. Watch the show and see.
@kikanaga86304 жыл бұрын
Your videos are confusing please make it clean
@ritajavier18034 жыл бұрын
Stopped watching because of commercials. What a joke.
@pauljacobs80224 жыл бұрын
wow, you never heard of a ad blocker? Now that's a joke