Bauer Vapor 2X Pro vs CCM JetSpeed FT2 Hockey Skates comparison review

[@tayzepietri995]

you should do a video on the 1s 2s and 3s surpreme skakes, i think that it would be a very cool video!

[@noahmatthew6658]

Same thing everytime. Mx3s are identical too besides a weaker lacing system

[@eoinkirwan1635]

What evidence is there that a stiffer one-piece outsole is better performing? Is it purely a marketing buzz word or is there solid info that acceleration etc is improved? It seems strange that Bauer haven't decided to use the one-piece boot on any of their skates yet and even CCM are relatively new to it considering Easton were using it like 10 years ago and Verbero also have been using it before CCM. I work with a pro team and usually pick gear up from them rather than buying retail and it's interesting that the pros do away with a lot of the fancy features on retail skates - they usually have very plain black liners that are not these really advanced liners and they all seem to get the flexible tendon guards sewn onto the boot with extra material to stop them bending! And a lot of them get custom tongues that are much smaller than these retail ones, they're really short and are much thinner sometimes with no lace bite pad, just felt and leather

[@charlie9ine]

Sorry but I disagree. True skates started as a one man show in Winnipeg VH skates. He proved to NHL players that the one piece custom boot felt better and performed better. He was a world class speed skater that made his own skates and eventually for other Olympic teammates Fast forward to today and the big name manufacturers are doing the same. The technology is true. If you play like me, maybe you don’t need the ultimate in technology but my lower end of the high end skates absolutely make a difference. Things evolve. kzbin.info/www/bejne/p4q0aZ5seb6riKc

[@noahmatthew6658]

Bauer makes the best skates simply put

[@charlie9ine]

Chicano Enforcer No, they don’t. The firs time I realized that you could skate pain free was when I switched from Bauer to CCM. That was years ago. Now the skate manufacturers are producing lines for different feet. Even providing custom builds. No knock on Bauer. They make great gear but... after playing for years, and I mean years, the only Bauer product I have is my hockey bag. It’s a really good bag.

[@charlie9ine]

Eoin Kirwan I agree with you.I’m not going to even get into it with someone who has been on the front lines. I’ve always thought that perhaps the top end skates catered to the top end players. I’m okay but any career aspirations passed me by 30 years ago. That doesn’t mean I don’t still love to play and I still like to play with the best gear. A one piece skate is pretty cool... for Connor and all elite players. The trickle down is that regular guys like me can skate on the low end end of the high end skates and notice the difference. For me I get the inside of the boot that is at the high end (CCM Jetspeed 480 EE). That means my fit and feel is great. I’m can slap on some Step Steel and play as good as I’m ever going to.

[@MCgrease08]

I would have liked to see more comparison to the fit of each. Heel lock, room in the toe box, width, etc. Obviously it's personal fit, but I have tried on a few of the newer CCM models and found the heel lock feature much too tight in the Tacks and Jet Speed lines. I have yet to try the Ribcor models.

[@tylersheard2240]

then maybe a ccm skate isnt for you

[@kadenschnarr8742]

Yeah tacks is the widest and ribcore is the smallest version

[@TheVancejordan22]

you are the man on reviews every company should use you my friend.

[@Duzz14]

I can’t believe the ground CCM gained, when I played 15 almost 20 years ago it was Bauer skates or bust. You’d see guys decked out in full ccm gear but get down to the skates they were always Bauer. Or at least had tuuk holders on them. Maybe Bauer just became stagnant.

[@stevenmorgan999]

Is there a comparison video of the jetspeed ft490 vs the ft1?

[@sudarioalonso6648]

Stiffer skate when you buy it on the one piece boot. The boot breaks apart over time. I am skating on AS1 for 2 1/2 years now and the boot is getting soft on some areas. I guess the pressure and continuous ice time started to crack some of those fibers.

[@greggf6831]

Whats the difference between the vapor and jetspeed in regard to forward attack angle? How are the 2 skates pitched? Neutral, forward? Thanks

[@nathanvault1524]

The step steel deal ends in October so you really can't count that, and Bauer skates have all that extra stuff for comfort, ccm shreds down all the weight, but it reduces foams which kills comfort, the weight the xs holder rattles even when tighten all the way, and I've seen them blow apart from blocking shots, and the one piece boot kills people with wider feet. The only reason ccm switched to 1 piece boots because there outsoles sucked. I tried on 2xpros as1s ft2s and 2spros, and the Bauer both had way more comfort and the weight differences was negligible, bought 2s pros and love them I skate 7 times a week AAA level. When you skate every day the comfort reigns supreme over the 5 ounces lighter and that is why a majority of nhl players are in Bauer skates

[@charlie9ine]

Nathan Vault CCM bought Step Steel so the deal doesn’t end. Not for the high end skates. Step has been the only aftermarket blade that I would recommend. They do make a difference

[@charlie9ine]

Nathan Vault I had the same experience in reverse. I played elite hockey for a few years and had Bauer’s supremes custom fit. Great skates but I didn’t realize you could skate pain free until I switched to CCM. Feel and fit has improved a lot but feet are really different. On the performance scale I don’t see a difference between Bauer and CCM. Still you have to find the fit that is perfect for you. Brands don’t really matter. When you find the skate that you don’t notice when you’re playing. Jackpot!

[@gianniangel388]

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[@juliengerardo6276]

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[@gianniangel388]

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[@alexanderh.999]

I have always worn Bauer vapor series, but wondering if the CCM jetspeed have similar feel in terms of balance and feel?

[@user-gromozeka]

Actually, the CCM is not a one piece boot. Internal outsole, quarter package and toe cap and it's a three pieces boot when the True makes a unibody construction, so the energy transfer should be much better than the CCM, isn't it?

[@mikesharp72]

Tendon guard on FT2 has a big quality issue in my experience. On the elite team I am affiliated with in Norway we have three players who the last season used the FT2's. All three pairs has cracks in the transition from top edge to the tendon guard. One pair was replaced on warranty from CCM. All three pairs was brand new when season 19/20 started. On our elite team at least 7 players use the Vapor 2X Pro and I can not say that we have had any quality issues with them.

[@turakainen4361]

That same happend to me and now I need a new pair-_-

[@dudeonfire2]

I play mens league and have FT490s and they have cracked after about a year of playing 1-2 times a week. I love my CCM gear and I’m probably going to switch to Bauer Vapors soon. The tendon guards are also terrible they break down and have no stiffness anymore.

[@pereklund2420]

Why do ccm guys in the nhl wear ccm skates with tuuk holders if the xs holder is so "superior"?

[@cjmixer99]

Great video! I’ve recently tried a couple Bauer skates (X-Shift Pro and X2) and found each had fitment issues with my foot. I always had to punch out in certain areas, but the X2 skate had a really tight toe cap and causing severe pinky toe blistering. I couldn’t punch out the toe cap, so I was left to just endure it. I then recently picked up my first pair of TRUE skates... And man what a difference. Don’t think I’ll ever go back. They’re a little heavy, but with the new TF9 skate I’m sure it’ll be only better. Thanks again for the video! Great stuff. Cheers.

[@DenisMorissetteJFK]

When buying the Jetspeed, make sure of its date of the manufacturing so it has the feature discussed in the first minutes.

[@McMikey78]

Do u get the step steel as extra blades? Or do u have to replace the stick blades on the ft2 with the step steel blades

[@jeremythebeer8609]

You're either a Bauer guy or a CCM guy. Enjoy your top end skates. I have 80K's. True interests me the most. There will be a guy who bombs around the ice on a pair of beat up skates from the 90s embarrassing you.

[@charlie9ine]

Microns!!!!

[@armintaucher264]

I think you are overrating CCM‘s 1 piece construction... For example 70% of the NHL players are using Bauer skates... Connor McDavid, one of the speediest skaters, is still using the old Jetspeed Skate.. which is a 2 piece construction... and about the holder, they have to develope this as well before it has a chance to become somewhere near to standard because I had dozens of XS holders in my hands and in every single one the runner had a tiny wiggle room, even tough the screw was totally tightened...

[@nathanvault1524]

Preach, 1 piece boots can only do so much, the 2 piece is so much more comfortable for me the 1 piece are just always too narrow, and I don't like the xs holder, I saw a kid block a shit with it and it blew apart and he was done for the game, also the step steel deal ends in October so after that back to the mediocre xs steel

[@camd2656]

Well now Barzal is the NHLs fastest skater and He's wheeling on the AS3s. Maybe it's time for Connor to switch

[@Maverick.4891]

The offer of the step steel runs out October 15th (according to their website) can’t speak for the stores though

[@gregoryyovane468]

I highly doubt that this “added weight” is really gonna make a difference like bruh come on, ur a clown if you think a stitched on logo on the skates is really gonna change they way you play the game

[@stevemtc1]

Stitching makes all the difference

[@davidr3960]

As a Bauer fan boy I made the switch to CCM skates and the one piece boot is so much better. Also Chris, I totally agree with the annoying injected eyelets. Hated them. CCM gives you 90 day’s to try them out but I won’t be returning mine.

[@acolling3027]

Great video Chris! I like the way you compare each individual feature from the steel up. Makes for a much more confident purchase when you're spending $900 on skates. I actually purchased a set of 1X skates a couple years ago, but would switch to CCM FT2 if I were in the market now. The one piece boot, along with the recent addition of Step Steel, and quick change runners are what sold me.

[@Ricky3430]

Have you done Bauer vapors vs the ft4s?

[@canucksfan7332]

Does the jetspeed fit a little wider?

[@tech_know_sk8er]

Anybody have any idea if the inline versions of these skates are identical to the ice skates. For example, could I try on a 2x vapor ice skate and expect a similar fit for the inline version. Sorry if this a dumb question.

[@TS-tv2lc]

Great video, very professional and very comprehensive. How does the speed plate compare to the super feet and do you recommend I use my 2S Pro speed plate in the 2X Pro?

[@conorparro6202]

could you do a video on the different footbed options? By the way, your videos are super helpful. Thanks!

[@rasmussvartstrom6281]

Can you make a video on the ccm tacks 910 helmet

[@DERECHTE451]

The lacing system is better because of the one piece skate? Wtf has the boot to do with the lacing it's the lacing compared not the skates overall

[@Maverick.4891]

Can you do vs vids on the models below ie FT490 & FT480/2X & 2.9? Just as not everyone will want or afford a top spec skate..

[@HockeyTutorialOfficial]

That’s a great idea! We’ll work on getting them in.

[@HockeyTutorialOfficial]

Especially because I’ve been using the FT490 for over a year now

[@Maverick.4891]

I’ve been swaying towards a one piece skate and I saw the 490 is one and not too dissimilar in price but can’t decide which one..is it worth just payin the extra £100 or whatever and getting the FT2 or not 🤷‍♂️

[@jairoquintero26]

Have the ft2 since February and only used 1 TIME. Damn covid-19

[@heihk]

damn dude, I can feel your pain right now

[@johndaltrocanto]

Dude i haven't been skating for almost a year god damnit

[@jamesmarshall5794]

Can you make a Bauer Vapor Hyperlite vs CCM Jetspeed FT4?

[@blablablablablabla6656]

Do the fits 1,2 & 3 have different widths?

[@jonathanmorciglio4944]

Which skate do you think will last longer? Based off of quality material used.

[@luggeb3245]

Vil Do a vid with the new true tf9&7?

[@richardmonaghan7500]

I would like to see a video on cam ft3 hockey stick vs ft2

[@csabafejer5947]

I can only have acsess only to the 2x pro :(

[@gabe.obrien]

Why is that a bad thing I love the 2x

[@anonymous134y]

this was the worst review ive seen

[@csabafejer5947]

@@gabe.obrien I hate the tounge and its too stiff.

[@ISB97]

Where is the Bauer Supreme Ultrasonic review? I got the 2s pro because I heard that the Ultrasonic is now a high/mid kick stick.

[@HockeyTutorialOfficial]

On our channel uploaded a while ago.

[@ISB97]

Hockey Tutorial no stick

[@Licensedbeast]

@@HockeyTutorialOfficial Read the comment. They're talking about sticks

[@antonpetrovskiy142]

Honestly the one piece construction is just a gimmick, i used the ft2's myself and i did not feel anything different about them compared to a 2 piece bauer skate, not to mention the ft'2 s quality is just terrible, i went through 2 pairs in one year because of them getting too sort the first time and then just straight up cracking the second time. I switched to Bauer 2x's just now and i don't see how the two piece construction slows me down and somehow i like it better than the ft2 yet its way cheaper.

[@tylersheard2240]

Going through all the points made: Steels, CCM Custom skates will have the Step Steels in but not off the shelf models. Bauer Steel > CCM Steel Holders, CCM is just better The outsole, the vapor range is meant to be more flexible so saying a 1 piece gives better stiffness compared to that skate doesn't make sense, However, a 1 piece is lighter Thes rest of the video is all opinion and the whole video as a whole is poorly done. By the way Vapor 2x Skates are what 30% of players in the NHL use and FT2 is only 7%

[@tylersheard2240]

@@KNT1013 the video states its FT2

[@tylersheard2240]

And is reviewing an "of the shelf" model

[@yeetuspeetus6598]

Does anyone else get cold toes at the end of skating with CCM skates? Or is it just me?

[@loganyee542]

Yeetus Peetus I do

[@charlie9ine]

I had that issue but sized my Jetspeed 490s to a EE. Problem solved

[@thames6897]

Me sometimes with as3 pro

[@DrewEmc2]

I bought the Vapor 2x pro. It was the best skate the pro shop had in my size, didn't want to wait for as3 pro or ultra sonics. No regrets yet, excellent skate, quick and agile like advertised and they look great too.

[@finlowrypocock7800]

i got a pair of ft2s 3 weeks ago and im allowed back on the ice again

[@csabafejer5947]

Where do you live Fin lowry Pocock?

[@gabe.obrien]

Bro nice I started practicing 2 weeks ago

[@ladakhclimber3540]

Sir how much all kids

[@rodndrone1198]

The more padded your footbed is the more energy loss your gonna have per stride. And it always seems like that is such a selling point . If you want 100% energy transfer than remove the foot bed completely. I would rather have comfort than the .001 percent energy loss of a padded foot bed . I tossed the originals and put gel soles in. 10x better.

[@Habu12]

Just got a pair of FT2s..liking so far!

[@sebsebseb1905]

I remember when Bauer was leading the industry with 2 generations over every other producer, how times have changed.

[@ar-aamon797]

great review!

[@noahmatthew6658]

You are wrong on this Bauer is far and away a better skate. The one piece boot is really a gimmick it’s not as life changing as it sounds. The Bauer boot is composite held to together very well and is better in every other way

[@blablablablablabla6656]

Great video!

[@kordnitekatny2441]

wouldt pick either of them cuz i can only skate on super tacks that are the wideste of all of them.

[@charlie9ine]

No criticism but here in Canada we pronounce Tuuk, “tuck as in duck”. Love the show

[@sliderx1897]

Do a video on converting ice boots to inline!

[@erichandrew1171]

Ccm 100k vs the Bauer Mach skates

[@Jake._.seago9]

CCM jetspeed ft2. It’s not a good reason but I think the blade and holders are in my opinion are better that bauers

[@ByronLee403]

Domination by CCM

[@michaeldymtro5758]

CCM wins all the important points. Also who the f doesn't heat mold their skates? I know you want to keep it close but come on man.

[@antonpetrovskiy142]

Honestly the one piece construction is just a gimmick, i used the ft2's myself and i did not feel anything different about them compared to a 2 piece bauer skate, not to mention the ft'2 s quality is just terrible, i went through 2 pairs in one year because of them getting too sort the first time and then just straight up cracking the second time. I switched to Bauer 2x's just now and i don't see how the two piece construction slows me down and somehow i like it better than the ft2 yet its way cheaper.

[@jeffshepherd834]

Good review

[@flipe125]

two best looking skate ever , they remind me of apx 1 skates. Vapors always been my shit tbh

[@luggeb3245]

The 2x pro's tung starts breaking after a yer

[@Maverick.4891]

What has gone wrong on yours? I’ve been debating on the 2x pro or the 2x so interested to know

[@gurmet_ak]

Hello 👋 brother can u please help me to shipping ice hockey 🏒 equipment to India , I'm from Ladakh , we also play ice hockey.

[@HockeyTutorialOfficial]

We know, we’ve been there and made this kzbin.info/www/bejne/aHukdoKpeLFsh9E

[@gurmet_ak]

@@HockeyTutorialOfficial yeah very nice 👍🏻.... But one of the most problem is less equipment, can u help to shipping ice hockey equipment to India. It's very important for us .

[@justcallmexbhsx1068]

i could never leave Bauer

[@anonymous134y]

insanely biased comparison i wonder how many nhlers have 1 piece construction...

[@camd2656]

84 players use CCM one piece boots. 78 players use True skates which are now one piece. About 1/4 of the NHL.

[@HockeyTutorialOfficial]

It’s funny that you believe NHL players dictate the development of hockey tech 😂

[@katienine]

@@HockeyTutorialOfficial I'm going to make a wild assumption, that the manufactuers use the input of the NHL pro's MUCH more than any KZbin personal opinion.

[@gregoryyovane468]

Doesn’t a one piece is really all that

[@charlie9ine]

Yet 70% of NHL players use Bauer skates...

[@linnel835]

Yeah because there better

[@charlie9ine]

@@linnel835 you might be right. I’ve been on CCM most of my life and been very happy (I’m 64). In the old days Bauer was too narrow for me. Now there a lot of fit options.

[@greggf6831]

Yeah but the best like Mcdavid, Mackinnon, and Ovi all use CCM :) It doesnt hurt their game

[@charlie9ine]

@@greggf6831 at that level its marketing and endorsements. All their equipment is custom made to their exact specifications. We buy off the rack. Find the skate that fits you properly no matter what the brand.

[@ponnismusic7636]

I use ft2

[@gregoryyovane468]

These skates are the same to me

[@franknbeans7745]

Bauer for look ccm for fit

[@ArmwrestlingClips1]

I think that CCM is better than Bauer

[@palmerpiper1797]

2x pros all the way

[@CPAngling]

“Com” fort

[@unknownbostonian]

The accent needs to change

[@BeezusCripes]

5ty

[@y1817]

hey, can i have a shoutout?? lmao im a beggar