Every wave is at least 6/7 of canon wave, so he’s mostly right
@xxargonautxx9790Ай бұрын
@@rightintooltrue, but this is a coms and team game atm. Baus is godly in soloq. Imagine him in pro play with fine tuning. Fucking terrifying.
@queensforever7498Ай бұрын
@@xxargonautxx9790I absolutely agree.
@katanaz7124Ай бұрын
@@xxargonautxx9790ong people don't realize any player going from solo q to pro play needs some adjustments, most of the other players have pro experience so once bauss gets more fine tuned he will be an absolute monster
@bigwig8657Ай бұрын
The team that throws together, grows together
@Jon14141Ай бұрын
:O
@goldenphoenix5945Ай бұрын
My team does that every game... "An ally has been slain" "The enemy is on a killing spree" "Your team has been Aced" "Defeat" However, the only thing that grows is our hatred for one another.
@bfcf99Ай бұрын
I like this direction, everyone listening to each other opinion and respecting it, let's win world rats
@stonesage1586Ай бұрын
Yea a lot of people over look the fact that 99% of the time, the debates you have in life are with your own team
@doouugАй бұрын
Yeah, “you are right, but you need to follow us anyway if we commit” is such a mature discussion. Good to hear it, hope they can do well!
@TwoToo_Ай бұрын
The rats are actually playing like maniacs, i can see them perform in high level, at least better than bottom tier lec teams. Their mistakes are rookie bs and reckless isn't there, but no pro player does risky plays. The thing to fear the most, is a team that has nothing to lose, no jobs on the line, just fun, just playing league.
@thefool7256Ай бұрын
Could tell Caedrel is really trying to be a good coach.
@equinox85Ай бұрын
@@TwoToo_ even with rekkles, they cannot beat an lec team. maybe rogue because that team was arguably one of the worst teams the lec has ever seen. but if they played against 9th place vitality they would lose or at best go even with their scrim block.
@djrylauАй бұрын
Baus' macro is top tier, and has full confidence in it, which is why it's awesome to see how different it can be in pro league, where covering each others' mistakes takes priority over 'winning' the map or making the 'correct' move by hesitating to tp. Glad the rats are respecting each others' thoughts and angles on the matter.
@greenhat7618Ай бұрын
@@user-dy5fe6hv2pyes his play is the correct play, but when your team makes the risky decision you just have to commit because if they lose there it doesn’t matter if he lives or not they lose nash and the game. To change the decision making and improve the macro is what reviews and practice is for, but when something like that happens in game even if it is not the most correct play you still have to help your team.
@ducanhnguyen4242Ай бұрын
@@greenhat7618yeah, everyone making a bad play is better than half the team
@xxargonautxx9790Ай бұрын
100% fans needs to see this stuff.
@samuelhall8465Ай бұрын
Nemesis has top tier macro. Baus is dying in side lane randomly like 3x every game
@brentdecastro139Ай бұрын
Right before this they were saying that technically its correct but in this circumstance vi griefed
@kylewright8985Ай бұрын
that's actually really great coaching by Caedrel there
@freestylingwhistlerАй бұрын
great coaching and just an awesome dude for making this team and content. cannot get enough of this stuff
@UneeclaircieАй бұрын
Caedrel is a genius tbh. Everything about this is amazing : his thought process through making this team, his coaching etc
@PlaygroundMafiaАй бұрын
They already have fans and haven't even played on stage yet. This team is going to be successful regardless of their pro match results.
@HyperioxАй бұрын
Chovy during scrim reviews be like
@TorannnАй бұрын
"what do you mean i have to lose 105 gold for a fight mid?"
@SilencedButNotForgottenАй бұрын
This narrative is bs and needs to stop.
@GwynsladleАй бұрын
:icant:
@fanwee5048Ай бұрын
Chovy golden roads next year. Mark my words right now
@lyrkinАй бұрын
@@fanwee5048 I'll come back here if it happens
@matthieupaty5032Ай бұрын
Hearing nemesis crack up like that is so golden man I love this team and I was sure it’d be a banger the moment it was rumored last year you’d have a team with nemesis
@OnestonedbakeАй бұрын
I watched this from nems pov. Bausffs said that and it panned to the top wave and nemesis is just smiling lol
@knowone3610Ай бұрын
Reminds me of that one time Gumayusi made a game-winning engage on Nilah. ZOFK were all saying "backbackbackback" but Guma found an angle and engaged 1v4 then the rest of T1 just fully sent it and backed him up.
@davidsantiago7808Ай бұрын
Gumagod going 1v5 will always be legendary
@firenzexstr2667Ай бұрын
TheShy Aatrox vs G2
@goliath_red1102Ай бұрын
@@firenzexstr2667as an EU fan - that never happened.
@davidsantiago7808Ай бұрын
@@goliath_red1102 I searched it on KZbin it did happen in 2018. Theres many clips. He didn't kill them all by himself but neither did gumayusi, so they guy is correct that they are similar in that regard. Both 1v5 scenarios that their teams cleaned up.
@evoluxman9935Ай бұрын
@@davidsantiago7808 they were joking lol
@wierdspannerАй бұрын
Honestly I started watching this and was like "damn yeah why is Baus not joining?" but he's actually got a point. Even if he would have won this fight, in order for his team to be competitive in the long run the team should be resetting here - not every team would be giving you a free fight here, and that will only become more true in higher level play.
@titan2540Ай бұрын
they shouldn't be looking for a fight, but vi made a mistake so they always win the fight if baus tps. the correct play in a vacuum relies on the enemy team making the right decisions as well.
@dianamandarinaАй бұрын
@@titan2540 it is kind of a complex decision isn't it? Cus yes, I agree they should punish the Vi for overextending, especially when baron just spawned, but also at the moment they don't have the optimal conditions for fighting (mana and health was a little low for some of them) and most importantly, they don't really need to fight. Baus said it, they've been on the map for a long time and could've easily reset and continue to choke them out. Tho yes, once the fight started he 100% has to commit to it. In the end it's a great lesson, and it's cool to see how each player sees the game and how they slowly start to mold their views and strats together.
@clusterrocketsАй бұрын
@@dianamandarinaThe instinct on the spot is to punish Vi. Making the optimal play requires all 5 of them to be thinking exactly the same thing, which you can’t ask even for the best team in the world. Also sometimes it’s not about making the optimal play, it’s about making a play together.
@haonguyennhat3923Ай бұрын
It's like the thing in sport where if you go against the coach and do some stupid things instead of how the strategy was supposed to be play out then regardless of what you've done for example clutching a play, you're still going to get yelled at by the coach for not following the strategy. It must be done like this in order to ingrain into the players of what should be the correct moves even when they're in the heat of the moments. So in my opinion, Baus is right here, the team have no reason to move to raptor, just backoff and reset, Baus'll push top and they'll get baron control. That's GG!
@spinachsalad5522Ай бұрын
Baus believed in the minion wave over their teamwork is what I’m hearing😂
@talha0o0Ай бұрын
Guys he's just a chill guy
@rain407Ай бұрын
With a huge ego isnt it easier just to admit that not teleporting is a game changer mistake?
@fate1157Ай бұрын
shilling
@blueperseverance3912Ай бұрын
@@rain407 what are you talking about? He admitted he should have tpd there but was honest with his view in that situation. Which in turn was right to a point.
@brawln9550Ай бұрын
@@rain407 did you not listen to anything he said lol
@darkobiwanАй бұрын
@@rain407 No ego. HIs team agreed that they weren't supposed to be fighting. It boiled down to "If we fuck up, fuck up with us".
@garailacАй бұрын
I'm happy our Rat is following along with his ideals about the game. He always has an incredible knowledge and understanding of how this game is played, and i always thought that if a team could excecute what's in his head, they could truly do some damage.
@xxargonautxx9790Ай бұрын
Just love how everyone is respectful, taking each side seriously and having a laugh when people make mistakes. Baus is gonna be terrifying with learning this side of league.
@InstinctVSMАй бұрын
Chovy finally has a worthy opponent
@xxargonautxx9790Ай бұрын
This is perfect. The explanation to their match and taking each side seriously. Baus is so good, with ceadrel he could be down right terrifying. Also i can’t wait for Rekkles to be in these videos.
@RussianSpy4632Ай бұрын
I guess even pro play can be like low elo soloqueue at times. You would ideally make the correct play but sometimes it's better to do a suboptimal call together as a team rather than do the right call and miss the opportunity to capitalize on your or the enemy team's mistakes
@theafricanpro658Ай бұрын
the soloq mentality is hard to quit baus
@shonen84Ай бұрын
Very interesting discussion. Is this the reason why ZOFGK could at the same time be so janky, but at Worlds legendary? When they make a play, they send it and are all on the same page. Faker plays an extra role because his knowledge and authority is so absolute ZOGK could smell his intentions and they make so many crazy good plays it’s insane. At the same time, if they fail, they fail in a very ugly way
@xJokers27Ай бұрын
YEP, LR equals T1's level of gameplay already. Just wait for the actual worlds finals match when LR faces T1 at the redbull event Pog
@lovisericachii4503Ай бұрын
dats how they win world. Faker was there for zeus in that final fight :)))))... but the baus wasn't there for his team :(((
@iresss4810Ай бұрын
Yeah that T1’s assembled on Zeus in that last team fight was the best scene to describe to Baus. I mean Sup ADC and Jg didn’t have TP and half map away from Zeus, they knew that they would lose the game if they didn’t walk up to help even they killed Kaisa and canceled Ahri TP before that. That is the scenario that can explain why he should join if something happens with teammates and he has to (in this case if they lose the fight, nash will be taken).
@EcaeaАй бұрын
Yeah you're right , its always about T1. This is why T1 win worlds
@thefool7256Ай бұрын
Not just T1, other good teams (and good coaches) may be the same too.
@mwbwyattАй бұрын
the thing i love about how transparent they are, is that theyre SUPER patient with babus, and understand how talented he is, but how they need to guide him in a respectful way to get ready for pro play. not to mention hearing nemesis laughing is so refreshing. this team is such a banger for their league, and just for content in general. xD
@lorenzjuhndomingo3393Ай бұрын
baus is experiencing the chovy playstyle😂
@ResumeReceivedАй бұрын
This is the thing that will either make or break Baus' success on this team. Baus even in solo Q is a very self-focused player. Works in Solo Q because you have 5 different individuals with different ideas on the enemy team as well. Competitive play is committing to the play together and getting better TOGETHER at gauging successful team commitments. Not doing so because it's not a good angle makes an even worse outcome.
@mrmcawesome9746Ай бұрын
I mean, Baus' point is arguably even more important for the rest of the team. They can't keep making sub-optimal decisions and hoping it works out, that just doesn't translate to success on stage. Baus mentions this briefly, but if Nemesis didn't go crazy in that fight it wouldn't have been winning even with Baus, and you can't just rely on Nemesis outclassing everyone when you're vs. a real pro team.
@SoundwaveSurfingАй бұрын
The problem is they are hyper focusing on him not TPing as the BIG mistake when its quite clear the bigger risk and mistake was by the other 4 players. Doing nothing would have been the optimal option. Why wouldnt you focus on the other 4's decision making process and focus on the one guy who was making the right call? Its not the optimal way to view this situation. The review should have been "Man we should not have taken that fight we need to understand the map state and not just jump in excitedly. Baus Im sorry we messed up there and you made the right call can you bail us out next time that happens? We will work on never doing that again but if we do would you be willing to TP in to?" The approach they went with was "Yeah youre right but dont ever do that again." Its poor messaging.
@animeanime7849Ай бұрын
@@SoundwaveSurfingThey agreed that the fight was greedy but Baus still has to TP. On stage greedy or sub optimal fights are going to happen, people make mistakes in the moment or over estimate their strengths but you have to to and join every time
@animeanime7849Ай бұрын
@@mrmcawesome9746I mean it’s not like they take sub optimal fights most of the time. They get greedy but they take good fights. No matter how good of a team you are there are times when you might take a sub optimal fight whether accidentally or on purpose but you have to join regardless. You can’t guarantee over the course of multiple games 100% of the fights you take are good ideas in hindsight but you have to to there 100% of the time regardless in situations Like that
@evanfauntleroy5263Ай бұрын
@@animeanime7849that's the argument being made here though. BAUS does not HAVE TO tp, and should not. It is being reinforced to commit to a bad play to SAVE teammates. Rather than to discuss how to recognize better situations... I think Caedrel did a great job explaining the idea of committing resources and matching the TP. But despite Vi putting herself in a bad place, the team could also respond in comms saying " bad fight, no mana, low health, reset reset for nash" things that reinforce the disengage. Winning that fight clean can definitely secure baron, or losing it can cause way worse.
@josephleethedeveloperАй бұрын
Team made mistake taking an unnecessary fight. Baus made the mistake of not working with team. League is truely a game of knowing when to be selfish or not.
@jamonnaranjoАй бұрын
theres an argument for the fight, if vi gets caught they can attempt a baron rush on spawn wich snowballs the game to oblivion, risky (and maybe unnecesary) play that in the end forces a fight but a 5v5 its not the end of the world, leaving your team in a 4v5 its defenetly not a correct desicion in the end its a matter of taste, how aggressive you wanna play? play for punishing the enemys mistakes or just slowly winning the game by macro? t1 this year defenetly takes the fight for the 20 min baron in that spot
@josephleethedeveloperАй бұрын
@ thank you for context!
@paciliaaАй бұрын
@@jamonnaranjoyeah both baus and the team made wrong play in that. 95% pro team in worlds would've insta base, buy item and setup baron after getting the tier 2 so them walking in the jungle make no sense. On the other hand Baus should've tp when his team commit to a fight
@NotSoLoudPlsАй бұрын
EU Chovy
@youduntknowmynameАй бұрын
SCRIM REVIEWS IS ALL I WANT TO SEE PLEASE DUMP THESE
@ZackeroniAndCheeseАй бұрын
Scrim reviews are on Nemesis 2 channel between each game.
@thefool7256Ай бұрын
Check vod
@hihellohАй бұрын
“You got to be ready to help.” Tell that to kda rekkles
@catgaming381Ай бұрын
Don't worry he will get the hang of it and next time he's actually the one to make the call.
@crazyfox5491Ай бұрын
i like how they talk to eachother, hope everybody can adjust their playstyle to create a nice synergy in the team
@SilencedButNotForgottenАй бұрын
I love how vocal Baus is in the reviews and how willing he is to listen and improve. Giving his perspective and having multiple different thought processes is great and will naturally direct the gameplay towards one style, thus avoiding the G2-Rekkles mistake. (Rekkles and the team had different views on how to play the game)
@gb1okeАй бұрын
MYCOACH
@cpa-doyАй бұрын
Baus take to base is correct but also, its more correct to go in the play when the team is commiting to it, bad or not. Best example is T1 world finals. Baus would be top tier if he adopted Faker's mindset
@simonedevignani2460Ай бұрын
he tried the "cannon wave move" but didnt work out
@queensforever7498Ай бұрын
I ABSOLUTELY LOVE how i started laughing and everyone started laughing when bauss savs cannon minion. Made me feel like inwas there. LOS RATONES❤❤❤
@ethandowler4669Ай бұрын
Sounds like a great discussion. This is the difference b/t solo q and team play
@griefer1851Ай бұрын
It's good that they're already having this conversation now, because from this they become more solid
@giovannyamezquita379Ай бұрын
this is gonna be so amazing content to see how amazing content players turn into a more competitive style!
@RinrinFranАй бұрын
Bro's really playing Teamfight tactics irl.
@NiHigamiАй бұрын
Baus: There are no objectives on the map Baron: What am I to you?
@ichikokun5589Ай бұрын
baus is right macro wise but when the team commit for a fight you have no choice but to follow it is what it is. it is what shot caller is for, to take responsibility if a bad play happened. when you are not the shot caller your job is to just follow the call regardless what you think, if you have an opinion on it you can discuss it after the game is over
@maximilianvangrevenbroekАй бұрын
Holy moly, these clips are just free coaching tips.
@everlastinyАй бұрын
I think baus fails to understand that even if this fight unnessesary, the fight has already started, so he's forced to choose between a bad outcome vs a less worse outcome. He needs to adapt to whats happening RIGHT NOW and not what it COULD have been since the past cant be changed
@timwildauer5063Ай бұрын
Old habits die hard. They’ll break him eventually and then they’ll be unstoppable. I mean they’ve almost swept scrims so far, but they haven’t even begun to show how good they can be.
@liyuu7033Ай бұрын
no, if baus die with them they lose baron, Baus not tping and dying won them the game
@animeanime7849Ай бұрын
@@liyuu7033him not dying helped but didn’t necessarily win them the game also against better teams it will completely flip the game regardless so it’s better to have a 35% chance of winning the fight than the 5% chance they have without him
@smokeychickenwings1038Ай бұрын
did you even watch the video? He literally agrees with this IN THE VIDEO
@femshep4018Ай бұрын
Trying to get a solo hero to play with a team…this gonna be interesting. The youngest player in Dota to win the international was a 16 year old prodigy from Pakistan in the mid lane, SumaiL. In 2015 the Evil Geniuses won the 2015 Dota I ternational and bagged over 6 mil in prize money. The oldest player on the team (and the oldest player to win an international until 2022), Fear, said that getting SumaiL to trust his teammates and not play like a solo player was the biggest key to their victory. SumaiL was hands down MVP of the tournament.
@Dex-of7riАй бұрын
2:23 And this is how baus will lose his identity, i believe. He prefers pushing lanes over fighting. Thats what he is good at.
@Kelvin-ne7nyАй бұрын
Yeah. There was also a scrim where he played Quinn today where he called to clear bot wave and play for Drake. But the team called for push for top tier 2. They ended up overextending and getting wiped. Baussi called for the right play
@bradhurst6834Ай бұрын
Yeah but it is also his ceiling then. Cause against better teams that will just flip fights with full confidence non stop his team will lose. It's basically a chovy situation. Baus sees the game in a different way to everyone else.
@bradhurst6834Ай бұрын
@Kelvin-ne7ny He needs a more slow paced team, in my opinion. One that likes to suffocate opponents out slowly. Rather than Los ratones fight fight fight style. Think gen g rather than T1.
@mwbwyattАй бұрын
@@bradhurst6834 i think theyre slowly going to work on getting on the same page, they have a pretty good dynamic and are extremely patient with him. not to mention when he does some messi of league play they just cant help but smile and laugh. which is good for the team too
@bourbon3120Ай бұрын
Baus is the perfect top laner for chovy we farm = win xdd
@ocquidАй бұрын
Brother (i dont know if he reads comments on this channel also hahahaha 'low elo tells pros how to use replay tool') PLEASE click directed cam and select Manual, it will stop abducting your camera so you can see what you want. Also press X to show gold.
@spuppet4582Ай бұрын
I think Baus' thinking is good on this one, because they have been overstaying since game 1, they even say it on the review.
@danielshamlian2800Ай бұрын
I think the more theBaus stays theBaus, the more the team ends up considering their plays lets say they decide as a team that theBaus decides on his own whether to join fights and usually doesn't, it's expected, but they implement a code word that someone or anyone can use as an override, as long as it remains used in that way -- that still becomes a situation where people are respecting each other, but there is just another layer of care, as long as its maintained, in keeping decisions based on intelligent play, but hopefully adapting to some opportunism, which makes a team less able to be taken advantage of through easy readability. It's workable, but it takes plenty of work to be workable -- but it is going towards a strength that a lot of teams compromise away. TheBaus is a strong enough player mentally to not compromise idea behind the transactional nature of an override compromise, if he can adapt to that situation.
@richardsanjaya1426Ай бұрын
you never learn if you keep winning. remember, those who walks slowly i don't remember the rest. but you get the point.
@mykko_0856Ай бұрын
chovy ahh play "i want my wave"
@MascaradoАй бұрын
Baus was right about they need to recall after that T2
@CalaTecАй бұрын
Is always better to commit to a bad idea than having your team hesitating with split ideas. The idea may be bad but still work because everyone is involved. Something like that, I don't know if it was Yamatocannon saying that.
@TheWumbologisttАй бұрын
Always better to be on the same page, regardless of if it's right or wrong. You can always review and realign afterwards.
@SparSchwabeАй бұрын
Truly the chovy of toplane
@wilson9102Ай бұрын
Well said from everyone
@AOEMiladАй бұрын
I agree with both parties and there’s things for everyone to learn but Baus is right first. At game time 19:53 after tier 2 falls they should immediately recall, even channel recalls while ranged champs kill it so they can get a fast reset and be back on the map. Sure when they start fighting Baus should TP, which is what I hope he learns, but 10 seconds before the fight starts the rats should be recalling because against a better team that’s just bad practice.
@cbunny667126 күн бұрын
This sorta boils down to why baus is so good in solo queue. In solo queue if your team takes a bad fight, and they all die, its better for you to stay alive so you can hoover up farm, so that your team is still getting SOME gold, even while dead. A solo player can’t stop nash or most pushes, but they can still get farm and do some sneaky stuff. In pro however, teams are more coordinated, so their pushes and nash’s are faster and more efficient. Maybe they do lose the fight even if he does tp in, but chances are they don’t. Even if they do though, you have to commit to plays your team does, even if you think they’re dumb.
@mrmcawesome9746Ай бұрын
Not TPing when Aurora TPs is obviously a misplay cause it's not like whether you live or die there is gonna change the game, you should play with the team, but I feel like there really should be more emphasis put on Baus' point here, cause it's 100% correct, and it's bound to come up again in more games. Even if Vi is trolling there's no point to killing her, like do you really need 300 gold badly enough to risk an unlucky fight over it? You're so far ahead, you just got a tier 2 tower and everyone's got 1k gold in inventory, objectively recalling is always correct, punishing Vi is just a solo Q feel-good play. If this was a for fun streamer tournament team I'd get it, but I feel like experienced players like Caedrel, Crownshot and Nemesis should recognise in the VOD review that introducing needless variance like this is just silly, who cares if she Q'd too far without flash up.
@alessandromatera3492Ай бұрын
Baron is up...
@secondbig911-k8cАй бұрын
even if baron is up they are easily winning the baron fight if the enemy tries to contest it
@emilydegroot6436Ай бұрын
If you watch the full vod review, Caedrel and crownie do explicitly say that like, yeah, going past that bush after the vi wasn't the right call. But the situation of "if you see other team members committing resources, you have to also use everything you can to make the play work out as well as it can, which is something that also will happen again. Nothing worse than split calls. Ofc, if there's something valuable you're actively getting by not joining, that's a viable play too, but
@Mark-tt8ooАй бұрын
They could easily take baron if Vi is out of the map. If they reset then take baron, the enemy could still challenge it through smite steal and there are multiple cases of that happening where a losing team makes a comeback by contesting baron even if they are down in gold. In hindsight bausffs was right but the reasoning to take vi down there and win a teamfight easily closes out the game.
@cookiemonster895Ай бұрын
I think what Baus tried to say is that how does the squad know this is not a possible flip ? He probably didn't think people would take such a fight when they should have based. What if enemies turn this fight around somehow while the extra gold wasn't cashed out yet with a base and reset. They already had tempo, regardless of catching that Vi or not.
@timgoodliffeАй бұрын
i think nemiss should be able to call for bous tp lol
@3ΘΕΌΣ6Ай бұрын
Ye comms issue
@imraduinАй бұрын
regardless if how far this team gets I think they will have a lot of fun and they are fundamentally all very good at league
@shinymuumaАй бұрын
That is what I find interesting. Baus is the pinnacle of soloq mindset. What make him thrive in soloq is say no to bad macro, build advantage through making himself strong, he good at carry unreliable teammate. Made me wonder how much it would translate well into the team environment
@remyurinsimp4823Ай бұрын
Does caedrel have a seperate channel to watch the scrims. I really want to watch in his perspective.
@mustard9933Ай бұрын
is the cannon minion in the room with us right now?
@Xamx6187Ай бұрын
Actually that is correct only in pro play, in solo q if 4 people int you don’t int with them, but in pro it is call
@miso_9029Ай бұрын
Baus is CHOVYING
@Xull042Ай бұрын
Tbf I think the main problem was not the players action, but the player communication. If the plan is to recall; just say it is. And then if it changes, everyone will understand there is something going on early. IE: Baus listen to the call, everyone say they base. No stress. Then everyone says "pick her pick her" you know something happened that is advantageous for your team, and you might want to TP anyway. If noone says anything about backing; you might think its just a random fight and you don't care and you dont TP; then lose the game.
@redraptor44Ай бұрын
What is going on in thie comment section? Caedrel literally said that baus was correct, however the trigger was already pulled so it was better for him to join in anyways.
@arkaina-ps7pdАй бұрын
That wave tho
@nerv6019Ай бұрын
BAUSSI ON THE CALL
@MultiFansАй бұрын
From here, we can see a slight difference of solo-queue player and professional (team) player. As what they always says, being highly ranked in solo queue does not translate to being a better professional player in the league scene. However, being high ranked is always an added bonus because of game understanding and/or raw mechanics (micro/macro).
@t1tempestia722Ай бұрын
I think that was the same mindset as Chovy have on the T1 GENG series xdd
@bombasticcatАй бұрын
this is so much different than solo q. its just playing a lot of games with high consitency. But worlds is you either win or lose
@dictatorshipoverdemocracyАй бұрын
Correct, the fight shouldn't have happened, but plays must be made together. E.g. you win 5v5 mid lane at 22 minutes. How often does the team commit to either nash or drake or mid push? How often do people split up?
@arkanskyАй бұрын
Baus is a literal wildcard. Neither his team nor his opponents know what he is going to do. Does he even know ? Nobody knows.
@missingtherage1728Ай бұрын
the way baus is thinking is too methodical and playing the game like chess, which NA has been doing for too long. the game is spontaneous, you need to take the most you can get and dance on the line of "too much" to succeed in this game. there isnt a linear way of playing league, TSM's most successful team tried to play league like chess led by bjerg and DL but i think they went the wrong direction and NA's been riding that wave since. you NEED to understand the chess version of the game to get creative tho so still good sign
@carlotan8712Ай бұрын
Just curious to see, if rekky joins the team now, would he be the shotcaller/igl for this team?
@iGo0dB0yАй бұрын
Farmville Baus does it again😆 i hope Chovy see this, add korean sub Sally😆
@alial6658Ай бұрын
They are trying to fix the baus
@96LoganАй бұрын
6 minions > 4 teammates. Classic Babussy
@dziugazzАй бұрын
Basically, Baus is 100% right, but if his team is fighting and the enemies TP - he has to come help too. You win or lose together
@ivanlopez-ko7woАй бұрын
For me, Baus was wrong in the terms that he's on a team now, that was a bad fight for no reason, and it probably would end up really good if he used his tp, it was still a bad fight Also, the wave baus was trying to kill was actually kind of a big problem not just for that wave, that was an entire wave pushed before the fight, baus using tp would end up with that minion wave plus the next one coming killing the ally wave, and if the fight ended up bad for them, it would have crashed into the tower in time so then the wave would start to slow push into the enemies, basically he prevented losing at least 3 minion waves, I think the RIGHT choise could have been, killing the pushed wave, so the waves would meet at the middle, then use tp, I watched the game and remember he had plenty of time for using it, he just wanted the wave, then saw his team struggle and decided to not risk it and catch all he could before leaving (yes, soloQ mentality)
@vitorcruz674Ай бұрын
What is super interesting is that from a solo q player perspective, Baus is completely correct, but from a competitive standpoint Caedrel is 100% right.
@lakesong7566Ай бұрын
Solid argument, baus is right in theory but in pro play, if a shot is called, everyone must go all in because that's how most inexperienced team lose games, not fully committing, look at T1, some of their calls are borderline int but it turned into highlight because everyone just full sends it
@mortysmindblowers6438Ай бұрын
Fights not a flip - UNLESS U DONT TP BRO lmfao
@Sokairu711Ай бұрын
Hard to blame Baus he's just stuck in the solo queue mindset. He's a solo queue animal and has incredible macro which is why he's always challenger despite inting. In solo queue you often would not commit to your teams dumb plays, but in pro you have to. Gonna be a bit of an adjustment period for him
@robertoyanez6186Ай бұрын
baussi being baussi
@alessandromatera3492Ай бұрын
The soloq effect
@JZhRАй бұрын
I keep saying this. Everyone committing to the, in theory, worse play is still 10x better than half of the team committing to the "perfect" play.
@saechvodzma2175Ай бұрын
Baus is right he is not talking much but he is right if in pro play you get caught like that you are not coming back from it
@Jordan-kl6ztАй бұрын
This content is going to change the fucking game. See what Ryan Reynolds did with Wrexham football club? Caedrels stardom combined with a reality tv about esports is just free money for him.
@HPLov3craftАй бұрын
couldnt baus just had stopped aurora tp?
@ghedirimohamedali279Ай бұрын
no too far
@silkthread7248Ай бұрын
It would’ve been possible with flash taunt. I think matching was just going to be worth more though.
@VKakaVickyАй бұрын
I think it was a bad fight like base and cae said, but it’s better to make a bad play TOGETHER than being split👏
@blank9123Ай бұрын
I wish yamato was on this team, would be so entertaining
@Cyan-yuАй бұрын
The evil voices are telling it cant for drama, just like the Brazil
@faora5651Ай бұрын
Hesright
@miantavaАй бұрын
It's ironic how Baus is so mindful of unnecessary fighting & mispositioning... yet always seems to contest for the most deaths.
@gandahk416Ай бұрын
Yeah, caedrel is right. Even the play is int, just burn all your resource to get there.
@aaaaaa-p7q8eАй бұрын
Funny thing is both cadreal and baus is right
@shion78Ай бұрын
momified
@LoveQuestANewDawnАй бұрын
SHUT THE FRONT DOOR! Caedal made a legit pro EU team?!
@FeralFlareАй бұрын
Dude is just EU Chovy lmao. It's all fun and games until he picks a wave over a crucial team fight in ERL.
@dragonoyxdАй бұрын
Soloque player realise that he's not playing soloque
@heehee4341Ай бұрын
Nah but it’s criminal to see your opponent laner tp and you dont cancel the tp and you dont tp yourself..