BBC Jordan Coulthard on team orders

Eddie Jordan and David Coulthard talk about team orders.

[@dhenimprianka]

Valteri, It's James

[@123dan165]

Fernando is faster than you

[@richboy900]

Multi 21 Seb

[@ryanlynch2395]

David Coulthard is and always was a class act! Probably one of the best drivers to never win a world championship. And definitely the best "number 2" driver of all time. He just never had the best car and was "number 1" driver at the same time.

[@davedaniel11]

+Ryan Lynch it's between David and Rubens forsure!

[@AgentJ2007]

Agree, Before Hakkinen became world champion in 1998 and 1999, Coulthard was the No.1 driver. He was outperforming and outqualifying Mika, winning more races.

[@louisdraper5372]

Ryan Lynch what about Mark Webber?

[@adampetten5349]

Berger best # 2. Was the only one to win in a car other than McLaren in 1988. Senna let Berger win in Japan he appreciated the job he did so much.

[@R33Racer]

... what about Gilles Villeneuve?

[@CommanderCoat]

Eddie Jordan: I never used team orders *Damon Hill asks for permission to pass* Jordan Engineer: "Ralf, you cannot overtake Damon, that is a team order."

[@MrSniperfox29]

Eddie never said that, he said he would only use team orders for the good of the team, not for the sake of individual drivers.

[@Nobodyneedsabodyanymore]

We never gave team orders is the exact words he used. He is a liar and obvious kiss ass

[@topazgaming19]

"We never really gave team orders, i never liked it". Hes not denying ever giving an order, he's merely saying he tried to not make a habit of it. the "really" his quote makes all the difference.

[@MrSniperfox29]

"We never really employed team orders, I never really liked it, the drivers is always caused aggrovation, it always caused friction in the team so as a rule I generally put it to one side, never discussed it until there was a moment where it needed to happen" Those are his exact words, he would only do it for the benefit of the team.

[@flatoutflatline1565]

The engineer was Sam Micheal

[@surebrec5113]

Team orders are the bane of F1, but in the case of Jordan in the '98 Belgian GP, their implementation is somewhat understandable, all things considered.

[@gerarduspoppel2831]

Yes. I was there. Even a safe overtake was to dangerous in that wet track

[@josiewallace7968]

No wonder Ralf Schumacher was angry, Damon Hill begging and pleading over the radio to be allowed the win unchallenged

[@surebrec5113]

@@josiewallace7968 I never realised there was another incorrect meaning for "begging and pleading", because he certainly wasn't doing any of that there. If you want to know about begging and pleading, just ask Ralf's wife.

[@blargd]

Why does everyone still say Melbourne '98 was a team order? It was an agreement between Mika and DC that whoever led into the first corner would win the race, Mika then hit some radio problems came in for a stop he didn't need and DC being the class act he was stood by his agreement, the team wasn't involved in that moment.

[@LesterBrunt]

You can't have a sport where there are teams competing for millions of dollars and ban team orders. You can only ban team orders if you also abolish the constructers championship.

[@alphatrion100]

When the outcome is determined by machines and money can you still call it a sport. Its a competition but i wouldnt call it a sport

[@LesterBrunt]

@@alphatrion100 How is it not a sport? Just because you sit in a car doesn’t mean it isn’t extremely intense physical work. Try pulling 5g’s multiple times per lap and do that for +1 hour.

[@alphatrion100]

@@LesterBrunt its not a sport because you dont get the same hardware as your competion. Its an unfair competition at best.

[@alphatrion100]

@@LesterBrunt is swimming still a sport when one guy gets to use, i dont know, flippers and the others dont?

[@LesterBrunt]

@@alphatrion100 Since when is that required for something to be a sport?

[@RensB1984]

thats because in 2010 teamorders were banned, in 2011 ( when Red Bull used them) it was allowed again

[@MartiniPinball]

Ferrari ruined it for everybody, Jordan got a lot of flag to back in Spa. But I think that thats actually a perfect example why sometimes it is perfectly justifiabl

[@Loose89]

Bit rich of Martin Whitmarsh to criticise what Ferrari did with Massa at Hockenheim, yet 2 years earlier did the same thing with Kovalainen.

[@tamassky]

In 2008 it was obvious that Lewis was fighting for the title at that point, while Kov was way far behind. Also, Lewis was on a different stategy on that race and had the chance to take the win. I think Kov would have let Lewis past willingly, without the team having to give the order, as he would have just wasted LH's time, which would have cost McLaren the win (would have been funny to see Nelsinho on top of the podium though). In 2010 on the other hand, at that point both Alonso and Massa were fighting Lewis and the Red Bulls. And it was obvious that Massa and Smedley weren't pleased at all after the race for what happened. Not to mention that it would have been an easy 1-2 for Ferrari either way...

[@lotusraptos]

@@tamassky No. Massa was 30 points behind already by the time they got to Germany and had not scored points in the last three races. Massa was, logically, totally out of the running for the championship, too, so you can't defend McLaren's use of team orders yet call the Ferrari ones outrageous.

[@tamassky]

@@lotusraptos 30 points is not that big of a deal since the 2010 points system introduced IMO. Plus, Vettel won the championship later in Abu Dhabi, going into the race without leading the championship even once that year, and 15 points behind (if I recall correctly), so 30 points is nothing.

[@kevinprior3549]

Kovalainen was shit

[@fenhen]

@@tamassky No, he was about 30 points behind Alonso. He was more than 3 race wins behind the championship leader and out of the running for the championship. Kov was actually closer to the champ leader in 2098 than Massa was in 2010, even taking into account differing points systems.

[@scotty686]

Australia '98 wasn't a team order, Hakkinen and coulthard had agreed whoever reached the first corner first would let the other win.

[@alandagmar576]

That is what I remember DC stating when asked before ?

[@martinadrianarcenas867]

the worst part about the ferrari order on letting schumi pass rubens was that it was very early in the season

[@Gersti96]

Hahaha listening to hamilton talking about team orders in 2017....hypocrisy at its finest

[@angelosantaniello4113]

Yeah for real, he's had many team orders going his way

[@corat248]

*_Valterri, It's James._*

[@kevinprior3549]

Didn't he let Bottas thru in Hungary couple of years ago?

[@NB-qr2rt]

And Russia 2018 where Bottas was ordered to pull over to let Hamilton through.

[@tombardsley3081]

Back then team orders were illegal. What happened afterwards is completely legal

[@flyronflyk]

Multi 21.

[@peterzebot9863]

Damon was smart there. Because he knew that if they raced there could very well have been a collision because of the shitty weather.

[@ozamatazbuckshank7467]

Not shitty weather, shitty sportmanship. Ralf was 5 second a lap quicker if they race ralf would win. If he want to avoid collision, he can simply be more careful

[@danielpooley7148]

Really I dunno I think he was right weather was shit

[@alandagmar576]

Ralf had just put new rain tyres on & was the fastest car on track ? EJ lost a major German sponsor for blocking Ralf ?

[@kevinprior3549]

Algersuari is an intelligent young lad. Pity he weren't in F1 longer

[@LethalJizzle]

"Fernando is faster than you" That is the most blatant team order ever, but good luck proving it FIA haha.

[@BlaizeV]

There is a BIG difference between someone being told not to pass and someone being told to move over. Being told 'Not to Pass' means the result isn't changing and that the way things stand is okay since the drivers had already earned their positions beforehand. To tell another driver to 'Move Over' is altogether different. This changes the result and also means a driver is getting a position he didn't earn. Ferrari get flak over Team Orders since they use the 'Move Over' tactic more often

[@thenotix7900]

But the thing is blaze you don’t give the “number 2” a change to change the result which just a frustrating

[@anthonyiuculano6002]

'I made Ralf hold station for the best interest of the team' Well Ferrari allowed Alonso to go past Massa for the best interests of their team, get off your hypocrite horse.

[@kuba2499]

Ferrari did that for Alonso interest. Hill and R Schumacher could have easily crashed.

[@anthonyiuculano6002]

+kuba2499 Massa couldn't have likely won that championship anyway after the bad results he had had, so it was in their best interest to let Alonso go.

[@Ziggen1989]

That is rubbish though, considering Massa got his 2nd place. Team orders to not wreck your cars, feels a lot fairer for the audience than team orders to let your team mate pass you. Especially when they are running the same strategy.

[@anthonyiuculano6002]

Sigbjørn Svendsen So what that he got his second place? What does that have to do with anything? Massa winning at Hockenhemiring in 2010 would have taken points away from Alonso and would have left him further adrift of the leaders. If Massa had been more consistently in the points in prior races, they wouldn't have let Alonso win. But because Massa had done relatively poorly, it was therefore in Ferrari's best interests to let Alonso pass to achieve the smallest possible gap in the WDC.

[@chrispurves5303]

Anthony Iuculano Only 6 cars finished that race and there been so many crashes there was no point in risking a 1 2

[@dieguis12]

Damon Hill sounded really scared about racing. He knew Ralf would beat him.

[@adampetten5349]

Diego He wasn't scared he just cared about Eddies team.

[@sam_marley]

Diego not worth the risk in those conditions with only a few laps to go. The team had never won a race before, let alone secured a 1-2

[@foxsake_]

Adam Petten no he wanted the teams first win.. he knew he wouldnt get it if he was allowed to race.... hence scared “youve got to tell Eddie” FFS

[@aidankeogh5350]

Ralf had a record of crashing at that point. More likely he would take Hill out and gift Alesi the win.

[@zerogee768]

Apparently, Damons car was set up for dry, because he took a gamble that the rain would stop, on his first pitstop they'd adjusted his front wing to take more downforce. Obviously it didn't stop and as a result he was losing a lot of time towards the end. I felt sorry for Ralf for not being able to go and claim his first win, but at the end of the day, Damon kept his head down, did what he had to, he was the driver of the race in all honesty, he was thinking of what was the best for the whole team and it was a great one-two finish. Not a lot of teams have ever had that privelage and it was awesome to not see either a Ferrari or McLaren on the podium for a change. But when you do it so deliberately and in such an unsavoury way as Ferrari did, Eddie Jordans' methods and engineered tactics are rather "alcohol free" in comparison.

[@Henman5]

It's interesting that Mclaren didn't use team orders when they needed them most (at Spa in 1999), while they told to David to let Mika through in other seemingly not so important for them races as Jerez 97....

[@SenseiDenax]

Coulthard was fighting for world championship at that moment. But yeah that split in chances could have cost McLaren the title since Irvine was getting all his victories thanks to Salo and Schumacher.

[@petarkolev3413]

Jordan Coulthard! :D I like this name! :)

[@joeysausage3437]

Michael was not embarrassed, he expected it.

[@AviAvikesh]

Look, depending on human mind,there's a probability that, once an action committed,it can be repeated and tempted to be repeated again,depending on stress pressure and the current state of the person's mind. However, this changes if a person has consumed drugs or alcohol which affects the function of the brain What I mean is that, You may not have done it earlier, but you may have thought deeply about it and doing it,Or you have done it before, and you're just putting it into practice.

[@gharrison1221]

Yes this is very true, and Alonso has told the team to do something about slower cars in front. Abu Dhabi 2010 and others,

[@LesterBrunt]

Its still a team sport, a team is not going to let 2 drivers race each other if it could mean the difference between 30 points and 0 points. They are not going to let the slower driver hold up the faster driver if it will cost points. They are not going to let a driver win if he has no chance at the championship and behind him drives to other driver who is infact driving for the championship. People who think otherwise are just ignorant.

[@scotty686]

It seems to be, if one driver is on a different strategy to the other, team orders are generally ok - such as the 2008 Mclaren bit they showed. However, it does appear to be when one driver truly deserves the victory, or there's a real skewing of the results in a way unrelated to their talents, that gives the sport a bad name.

[@sultanabran1]

damon was about a minute in front of ralf until the safety car came out when schummi hit coulthard. also, one of the rear wheels were cracked on damon's car and losing pressure, hence the reason he didn't have much speed. damon qualified 3rd also, he was faster than ralf all weekend. it was eddie's call as well.

[@lotusraptos]

​@@mirasolovklose3888 The reason why the Jordan team orders shouldn't get as much flak as, say, Ferrari or Mercedes or Red Bull is because they WEREN'T a front running team like the ones mentioned. They were simply a midfield team who suddenly found themselves in a race winning position. Damon had a chance of winning, but Ralf was quicker than him, so he played his cards into knowing that a small independent F1 team owner like Eddie Jordan would put the team result first rather than the driver. And at the time, this wasn't 6-time-Grand-Prix-winner Ralf Schumacher: this was largely-fast-but-sometimes-inconsistent-and-crash Ralf Schumacher. Of course, they could have just told DAMON (not Damien) to move over and let Ralf through, but I think Ralf was leaving Jordan anyway whilst Damon stayed on, so that may have had something to do with it.

[@DarkSkillchain]

see the look on ralf face when he walked by his brother gave after that race.

[@sultanabran1]

it's not what they did, it's 'how' they did it.

[@elmadi7391]

Is it Coulthard name is David & not Jordan…. unless a comma is missing in the video title?

[@Superduck7716]

"Everyone is faster than you,...Grosjean."

[@aimalkhan123]

Jacques Villeneuve won the championship in 97 and David Coulthard was ahead of Häkkinen on points going into the race.

[@TheJokerit19]

2022 Sao Paulo GP

[@sergejpazdrijan5909]

ok so when Ferrari make a team order it's always sad,bad,horrible but when Red Bull and Mclaren use them then it's always ok

[@MrTrueFinn]

Just out of curiosity, what can you do about it? Ban the radios?

[@MrSniperfox29]

We need driver B out of driver A's way, but how can we do this. Promptly brings in driver B for an unneccessary pitstop Problem solved with no radios

[@johnstecd]

As a fan i agree but when i look at it from the teams prospective i can see why they give team orders because let us not forget these teams and FOM are run as a profitable business so of course like in 98 in spa i totally understand why that order was given similarly with Coulthard and Hakkinen they were fighting for the championship and the money they get from that.But what makes those different to Austria 2002 is that in 02 it really took the piss as RB was faster than MSC which is why-

[@impareggiabile]

So everybody makes team orders, but Ferrari makes them it's a shame...

[@flatsix9400]

Telling a driver not to pass does influence the race, certainly in Silverstone with Red Bull, Mark would have passed Vettel before the end of the race, of that I'm sure. Thus giving Mark 18 points instead of 15 and Vettel 15 instead of 18. That for sure is influencing the race outcome. But I do agree it are two different forms of team orders.

[@LazyDaisyDay88]

Why would anyone ask a man to risk his life driving for 80 laps and THEN ask him to lose. That's not racing...

[@strathruncie]

"One teammate has to let the other one through," says the guy on the raw end of Multi-21... hehehehe

[@jameselder1103]

I think even in 2018 team orders should be banned

[@Balnazzardi]

But how the hell are you going to supervise them? the artifical ban in 2003-2010 clearly showed that there is no real way of doing it, as they were used even then, just in ways that were not so transparent, except for that Germany 2010 case that became so transparent, cause Felipe Massa wanted it to make so that the whole world could see and hear it.

[@whatsappdripcar3104]

Pretend you own a football team Would you let 2 of your players get in each other’s way?

[@tombardsley3081]

Team orders as much as fans hate is a necessity for teams. Especially when it comes to fighting for the championships

[@aggerktm]

fuck off. F1 is a team sport, like it or not. theres more to an F1 team than just one driver or the other. team orders are neccessary, their "ban" was absolutely retarded and im glad it was lifted after Germany 2010

[@gharrison1221]

With what Ferrari did in Germany i see no problem with because Rob Smedley was telling MAssa that Fernando is faster. They never told massa to get out of the way and let Alonso pass

[@alandagmar576]

I think AF had just changed tyres so was faster ?

[@flatsix9400]

Yes I've bothered myself with that question many times. Perhaps Alonso is not as great as people claim. At Lotus it was obvious Kimi had a chance at catching Vettel where Grosjean did not have this chance. Don't forget it was Grosjeans first proper F1 season and Kimi, well he doesn't need an introduction...

[@Colddeed]

As the rules stand, it's unlikely that we will ever see a repeat of Austria 2002. But the sport will never completely get rid of team orders. The teams will always find some clever(or not so clever) way to cover them up. I would prefer not to see team orders at all, but I understand why teams do it, and I have no ethical problem with it.

[@123dan165]

Fernando is faster than you

[@johnstecd]

it was hated by so many fans. so i think if they are going to use these orders they shouldn't make them as audacious as Austria 02 but the "Multi 21" fiasco a clear order was given and in my opinion Vettel should have been punished by the team but they didn't because SV has the better track record so they wouldn't put a junior driver in etc. overall i don't think anything needs and will be changed as this is a business and as a business you have to do what is better for the businesses success

[@MrSniperfox29]

They didn't punish him because two seaons before Webber was told to hold station and tried to attack. People forget that when they moan about Vettel and multi 21

[@TjeroS]

Memory error dear 03iamhopeless? This video is from 2010.

[@routemans]

Team = Leader + Member from the word itself "team" *When you're "member" of a team involved in "sports" or group operating on and off the track, the decision (aka "order") by the "leader" which he thinks will be for the best interest ("for taking any action or step the delegatee thinks to be the most advantageous to the organization") of the team. There's nothing wrong implementing team orders in formula one as long as formula one is played by teams. Team orders is not race fixing!

[@cecilking2924]

What's with all the bitching at Jerez 1996 for McLaren only. How about the colluision between McLaren and Williams? Oh wait They're british. That's only ever evil when it's someone from outside noble GB.

[@cecilking2924]

typo. 97

[@anthonyiuculano6002]

exactly.

[@AidanMillward]

All Villeneuve had to do was finish, and McLaren and Williams basically said to each other 'Okay, we'll not hold your boys up, we've got what we need'. No conspiracy to fix the race and that was proven after an FIA investigation. Plus, no mention of Fontana letting Schumacher slip by but holding up JV for several corners because Jean Todt told them to (given they had Ferrari engines)

[@ventisette.]

And he’s not even British!

[@AviAvikesh]

Okay, you do believe that he has not done that before, i believe that he had done that before, with Webber (using indirect tactics). Just an opinion.

[@AviAvikesh]

good..

[@Fede-hw6sn]

35 laps behind Bernoldi🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@gharrison1221]

I see what you are saying, BUT when Lotus told Grojean that Kimi was faster than him in Bahrain last season they did say don't hold him up, not did you understand that message. Also if Fernando was faster why didn't he just pass him instead of having the team tell Felipe.

[@tombardsley3081]

When lotus did it, team orders were once again legal. When Ferrari did it, it was illegal

[@TjeroS]

No, if you do something it doesn't mean you have done that earlier?

[@joey34mx]

that looked like a planned move to me martin!

[@hughtubecube]

Forget Eddie’s history with team orders - why does he have to speak like he’s narrating a movie trailer all the time? Makes him seem so full of himself...

[@chadmoodley3497]

Team orders banned so why does Mercedes still use it?

[@lewis8634]

They are not banned

[@flatsix9400]

Yeah sure, 'did you understood that message?' This surely implies their was an message to understand and what is there to understand about 'Alonso is faster than you' except for the fact that Alonso is faster. Rob would never bother any driver with such facts unless there is a clear message.

[@codio221]

If team orders are banned why did vettel get in trouble for overtaking webber? someone pls explain

[@perbor24]

+Kurt Wylde i think the lifted the rools some years ago

[@omarfrom7118]

Because he was told not to

[@nates.5368]

The ban on team orders was lifted for 2011. In Malaysia 2013, The team ordered Vettel to stay behind Webber who was leading the race, however Vettel disobeyed the order and passed Mark, thereby disobeying a team order.

[@tombardsley3081]

@@nates.5368 and yet he was portrayed as the villain when fans hate team orders . F1 magazine portrayed him as Darth Vader after that incident

[@StyrofoamKup]

SOMETHING has to be done after Malaysia 2013. Podium looked like a funeral

[@matthiascerebri3315]

Actually, the Hamilton and Rosberg situation bothered me more in that race. It was what pisoned the atmosphere between Nico and Lewis. By the way: Are team orders still banned?

[@aidankeogh5350]

No. Team orders are allowed now.

[@billyboy8888]

ultimately team order is a privilege earned by the driver with more points. ferrari would never order alonso to yield for massa or schumacher for barrichello, because theyre simply too slow for their team mates.

[@kevinprior3549]

McLaren favoured Hakkinen over DC ... didnt they?

[@erwinr9328]

team order = team order.

[@roadrunnerblink]

That was cringey when Damon saying he and Ralph shouldn't race so they could take 1st and 2nd. What kind of victory is that when you know the guy in second could have pissed all over you if not for a direct order.?

[@chico0326]

What they never showed is that in the next sector both Damon and Ralf had about the same pace, plus, Spa is a very dangerous place to race in the rain

[@aroldoarielzambrano]

roadrunnerblink Jordan was a midfield team, they could'be easily crashed in to each other and throw away that 1-2 finish, also the track was wet and a lot of people retired because of crashes.

[@adampetten5349]

roadrunnerblink Damon likely would speed up and win but there was that 20% chance of a crash.

[@pavolskubak2187]

Jordan was midfield team, for Eddie it was first win. For second Ralf wrecked teamate in Argentina..

[@zhaviator]

it s not banned anymore...

[@MoNsTaRRGaming]

Fernando Alonso - "Formula 1 is a business, not a sport."

[@AviAvikesh]

okay, trust me, if he has used it in Silverstone, it means he used it again, there's high doubt. Dump it, let's don't stretch the matter.

[@billyboy8888]

it would be dumb to not use it. team orders were usually only used in latter part of the season, when one driver already clearly surpass the other in points. a team gets paid millions in bonuses when their driver wins drivers championship. a manager would be brain dead to not use it and let tens of millions slip through his fingers, he would be fired.

[@TjeroS]

But that doesn't still prove that he has probably done that earlier.

[@isaacchua0405]

Damon knew Ralf would beat him that's why he said that. If you want the team to get 1-2 let him through then Jordan would win since he is faster anyway but he put out that possibility to protect himself

[@deeznoots6241]

Isaac Chua except even an overtake on a passive driver was dangerous in that race, Schumacher crashed out of the lead attempting to lap Coulthard who had actively moved over to let Schumacher pass. It was a very simple choice, either use team orders to secure a 1-2 and the continued existence of Jordan as a team(they were pretty close to having to fold the team at the time) or let them race and risk losing not just the race but your entire team.

[@MPal24]

The rule was flawed and unenforceable as it was, but the FIA's solution was pathetic: Just make them fully legal again. I know that it's fundamentally very difficult to get it right like DC said, but the FIA essentially just said we can't be bothered.

[@AviAvikesh]

no not really. If he did that in 2011, he must have done it in the past probably, not in formula 1 may be but in gp 2..

[@Alexblock-hj6hv]

Spa 98 was justifiable as Ralf was a lot faster, and if he passed Damon, the latter would have been passed by another few cars, thus the team would not get a 1-2, whereas the HIL-RSC order guaranteed a 1-2 finish for Jordan. In incidents such as Austria '02 and Russia '18, there was little reason for it.

[@araregoodguy]

You are saying team orders do not exist now... Of course they do!

[@yvrozz007]

Remember Belgium '98, Eddy?

[@HarrySFF1]

One thing that pisses me off is that when Ferrari use team orders, Eddie Jordan acts like hiss wife has been killed, but when other teams use team orders he doesn't care. When Red Bull used them in Silverstone, he didnt give a shit.

[@RawLu.]

I Hate Team Orders simply because for me? The Drivers come before The Team. I watch F1 because of The Drivers, Not because of The Teams. And their would be No Teams let alone Drivers without The Fans. Period.

[@CarlosDiaz-qb4jj]

Sorry, but the team comes before the drivers ALWAYS. The team pays them, the team gives them the car. The drivers are employees of the team. And you say you watch F1 because of the drivers, not because of the teams? Well, without a team there are no drivers

[@xshx19]

Or McLaren in 2008 Hockenheim.

[@TRC98]

Lol we got team orders back now

[@jamescalalo]

I think they should just get rid of the drivers championship

[@JoshSF73]

James Calalo lmao wut

[@jmoth99]

I think you are stupid

[@ashutoshgaming6664]

Valtri its james....

[@dobakito]

the cars look so short and stumpy without the T bar 1:40 . i love it.

[@aggerktm]

2:21 man i support team orders as i understand F1 is a team sport, but Hamilton looks like such a hypocrite saying that now that he's benefitted and even won races off team orders at Mercedes

[@aadeshthirukonda7386]

Dawg you sound like an idiot. This was done in 2010.8 years before the team orders benefitted him.

[@2uneek]

Is there betting in f1? like horse racing..? What happens if i put my money on jenson button to win the race.. He was coming first but was ordered to let pass hamilton for championship contender.. Id be pissed and want a refund.!

[@woohoolookatme1]

Ferrari did it in the most obvious and sad way, and this is coming from a Tifoso. Ferrari did use Team Orders, but lets look at Red Bull, silverstone in particular.

[@aimalkhan123]

why did mclaren tell DC to let hakkinen go through in jerez 97 ?

[@unsc95]

for the championship i think

[@SuperAli113]

that is exactly the same opinion as you. He didn't say nothing about the team order. Christian horner made up a rubbish excuse in silverstone

[@NxDoyle]

The dirtiest thing I've seen in F1 was Sepang 2013. That one action on the part of Vettel made me stop watching the sport for a number of years. And the very race I decided to start watching again, the man responsible for my decision to stop watching pulled alongside a competitor under SC rules and smack into him. Don't get me wrong, I don't hate anyone in the sport. But there are one or two drivers who do not consider the image of the sport. They are there to serve only themselves. It could be anything, from repeated dishonesty about on track behaviour through to missing events that are set up to entertain fans right down to pissing around with your phone during media calls, there is a creeping culture in F1 that has to go. If the drivers stop taking responsibility, it gives the sport's owners much greater latitude in making decisions that will most definitely affect the sport's future. Imagine a scenario where in less than five years, the class of motor racing that has, since its inception been the premier class of motor racing, reduced to a kind of Euro Indy. Imagine an F1 driver talking to the commentators from the car after the chequered flag: Yeah, I'm so happy the Compare the Market Honda ran perfect today, and the Dyson HandiVac crew were splendid, as soon as the Virgin Atlantic lights went out...

[@qasimmir7117]

Nx Doyle That’s very good point. Though Dyson vacuums are pretty cool.

[@AlexanderTrefz]

You are a major imbecile.

[@TheOnlySnappera]

You should have watched in 2014 so you could see Vettel get his arse handed to him by Ricciardo in the same car - a far superior driver in every way.

[@furlo4state]

Snappera yeah i also watched 2015, dont you say anything now?

[@dasbrot749]

didnt Vettel have multiple DNF and team order issues?

[@jackc575]

@yvrozz007 So did you even watch the video or what?

[@mellegerda]

'You cannot overtake' - What's the difference between this with fixing a match in football?

[@manat31790]

Fixing football match is some corrupted people forcing teams to what what they want and determining the outcome of the sport in illegal ways. F1 team order is like formation change or substitution in football. It's an order issued by the team boss in order to achieve what is believed to be the best result for the team, in a complex sport where other teams may eat you alive if you're hesitant to make important decisions. Team orders hurt drivers' pride more than anything. It's comparable to a showman footballer getting replaced by another guy during half-time. However, this is a reality of team-based sport. Drivers are not only driving for themselves, but also for the team and the factory that prepare them the cars. Ignoring team order may be a spectacular act, but it usually have negative consequences in a long run.

[@travellingdayak7500]

No difference at all. Fuck team orders.

[@teemas10]

I HATE TEAM ORDERS!!! :( I WANT 2 SEE A RACE! NOT A MANUFACTURED WIN!!!!

[@terkmadugga]

Haha, I know right?!

[@StyrofoamKup]

ALLOW THEM TO RACE ::: yeah the "team" is putting a lot of money on the line but the driver is putting his very own skin on the line and willingly so. Team orders kill the sport.

[@judgedeath3]

Nahh team orders are far from killing the sport, DRS and all new systems that make racing less skill based and mercedes domination however is and liberty media dont get what fans want :P

[@2POWERFUL]

*Christian Horner. ^_^

[@TjeroS]

You don't know that, you're just saying something that has "probably" happened.

[@gallennorris782]

Team orders are bullshit. If I was driving I'd tell my team to shut up and let us race and may the best driver prevail. Doesn't matter if it's a teammate or not, my job as a driver is to beat you every weekend

[@zontral]

I think it's funny how other teams did team orders and it doesn't seem to bother Jordan or other guys but when Ferrari does it, it is the worst thing in the world.

[@alandagmar576]

The boss of Ferrari ordered them to let MSC win because MSC would claim the WDC by one point if he lost every other race in the season , And Ferrari could concentrate on the new car regs for the next season + It was a photo opportunity seeing two Ferrari's cross the finish ?

[@blainy-o93]

@KingOfTheShrews It'd be a chin with a wig.