Can drones deliver? - BBC Click

[@MattWhittingham]

good episode, some significant obstacles to overcome on drone delivery, but already some compelling use cases to drive solutions forward, especially medical.

[@sammyspaniel6054]

Would you rather hear the faint buzz of a drone for a second or the rumble of a UPS truck going up and down your street twice a day?

[@FPV420.]

@10:53 OMG those critters!

[@dave-in-nj9393]

going south, fly at 5oo feet flying east, 550 feet north, 600 west 650 that way, the forward looking only has to worry about overtaking a slower device.

[@9001greg]

Nice raspberry pi at 10:38 I'm sure it's more important than the pointed out `mobile phone'

[@jzk2020]

Do I need a TV licence to watch this program? I think I remember getting a letter warning me that I could even watch re-runs online (from the BBC) without a TV licence.

[@jackhammell1926]

Those heels rock and ya the drones r cool.

[@zachfox7771]

I can see this being brilliant for ocean exploration too, 19:00-end. wondering about other spectrum visuals to have insight further down the depths like Infrared and others. could sonar work from high up?

[@zachfox7771]

oh, i see there is a buoy that does sonar, thats the thing about drones, they still require the rest of the world

[@Caroline_Tyler]

Now these companies want to commercialise the low airspace I expect model aircraft modelers and hobbyists will be made illegal and that would be bloody awful !!!!

[@Znowin]

As these aircraft/hobbyists such as myself are in the same industry as cinematography drones like DJI I reckon we will have some protection

[@Znowin]

just flied with a gopro for the first time today, got waay too confident and rekt into a bridge! uploading it soon

[@edstar83]

They can try take our airspace. They get in my way I'll knock them out of the sky.

[@DaItalianstalian]

I agree.

[@worldsoccer9645]

how about VTOL drone ?

[@stuartlennox66]

Never mind Duck hunting season, Drone hunting could be much better

[@MrTruth111]

'hail' to that. mmm or a nice double barrel,

[@JohnK004]

then they will send a police drone on your ass, which would be equipped with thermal vision and ultimate weapons of precision, good luck with that 🤔

[@joesterling4299]

@@JohnK004 Do you hunt ducks from your backyard? Then why would you hunt any other avians from there?

[@JohnK004]

@@joesterling4299 you can expect anything from some 'Muricans these days...

[@FPVREVIEWS]

The inline dual motor configuration of Zip Line Aircraft is not the most efficient, or quiet. A better system would be a twin tractor with wing mount configuration, but the dual inline does have some other advantages. The reason they say it's quieter is that they used to mount the motors in the worst place possible, on the back of the wings in a pusher configuration. that means that the air with pressure differential is going right into the prop arc, and there are going to be some harmonics. it will change depending on the exact differential in pressure. The motors also have to be out of the way of the arrestor line, so it's a good compromise for them, considering the circumstances. Zip Line engineers, if you're listening: What kind of batteries are you using? I've been building Li-ion batteries with great success and 4 hr+ endurance for some similar sized fixed wing aircraft, and they work much better than lipos. would be happy to share anything I've learned to help.

[@alexbentick8961]

you should build a prototype start your own drone company

[@prepperjonpnw6482]

Why are you telling us all this stuff? You must know that no one gives a crap. Are you simply trying to appear smarter than the zip line people? You know those people with all those millions of dollars in funding and the big shop with half a dozen experts and all the parts and equipment you could ever possibly need lol. Seriously we are not impressed lol

[@AB-wm6hp]

Is it possible to buy one of their drones for food delivery or are there any drones with a GPS which allows you to send a drone to a address?

[@irfanulkarim4992]

Contact Zipline

[@donaldsmith3048]

I am not sure it it would help or make thing worse! Something like planes use to to know if another plane is getting near. It may mean having a radio frequency set just for that or using the same frequency that planes use.

[@tanermedia]

Amazon has to see this!

[@HiHai]

Wow. what a beautiful video.

[@lxc647]

not going to work unless they reduce the noise level from the propellers. It's WAY noisier than a car.

[@unclemarky3]

holaaa excelente video deseo que sigan haciendo contenido similar... Voy a seguir mirando sus creaciones. Les mando un abrazo nos estamos viendo 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽

[@thli8472]

They should make a public distributed network of delivery drones.

[@satishshinde8074]

Autonomous drones are illegal in Germany. Also, the ones with RC and a camera are largely frowned upon. Our project manager at the university was stupefied to learn that to develop drones, the project lead has to get a security clearance and a license.

[@satishshinde8074]

@@prepperjonpnw6482 These are two different things. I don't see a common factor between the two. Please do not start a shit storm in this comment section. You might want to find another place where there are like minded people who can respond you with equally crappy comments.

[@traniel123456789]

@@prepperjonpnw6482 Syrians aren't drones. You don't need to get a license to be syrian.

[@V0YAG3R]

Satish Shinde He's right. Truth hurts! 👌🏻 And actually, they have to do with each other, since the fear of terror alone, which they allow an import everyday by allowing such invasions, in turn curtails individual liberties like the ones encountered by your professor and you when building and flying an RC vehicle.

[@khshur2]

Drone Alone .....DA boom boom tssssssssss !!!

[@iforce2d]

"if one loses positioning it flies straight back to base"..... uhm.... how?

[@TechReview2000]

GPS. It logs data on where the drone took off from, then returns to home. Quite simple technology actually, DJI drones have them too

[@worldsoccer9645]

why u not use VTOL ????

[@SardarHussein]

It was incredible. Keep up click please.

[@halfabee]

Looks like my normal Amazon delivery they try to through it straight in my drive.

[@AAronFpv]

So everyone is scared of people flying a few 100g drone around but now its ok to have these behemoths carrying bio hazardous materials and other dangerous items not to mention the danger of their own size/weight autonomously for long distance?

[@edstar83]

It's all been propaganda so these companies can take away hobbyist air space.

[@ggman1254]

edstar83 Not only, mostly just people who are scared of "new" technology. Ps: I love!! my quad;)

[@zam023]

I wonder if you are pretending to be ignorant on purpose. The size of a drone is not a concern. The people who controls it does. We know atleast official organization and business will not misuse drones. If we do not regulate drone use for the general public, someone/anyone could put an explosive on the drone and fly it into something, a nuclear reactor for instance. We already have cases where activists fly drones into government buildings. If you have a bone to pick, take it up with those activists.

[@Stambo59]

@@zam023 Are you serious, size certainly does matter, what would you rather be hit with, 200 gram toy or 10 kilo delivery drone. CIA is an official organisation and they don't misuse drones..... right? Do you really think regulation will stop someone intent on breaking the law? People use cars as weapons all the time, they are already heavily regulated, you don't see any calls for them to be banned.

[@mrlegoblox448]

@@edstar83 zipline flys at 600+feet.

[@justforfun8527]

Amazing keep delivering....these videos

[@flitsies]

Ok drone deliveries, what about small air craft issues like paragliders and paramotors, it's all very well the drones being able to avoid each other but will they be able to avoid paragliders and motors and their chutes. Drone deliveries are a good idea so long as they get these things right. As for patrolling the beaches and sea, they could use paramotors in combination with the drones that way they have more tools available to them. Also being able to see the crocs in the water could be done by using thermal imaging. Just one thing regarding the drone deliveries what happens when one of these drones falls out the sky and hits someone on the head, or causes damage who will pay and how much.

[@JoneKone]

I thought NASA was developing an "Over arch, Over watch" system for all flying drones... well it was for cars =D but still I Remember them developing the system back in the 90's

[@sanjuansteve]

Imagine how much customer and potential customer video data they'll be trying to collect as they view into our windows while delivering the package. They should be regulated from such data collection.

[@r3dp1ll]

will never be allowed. At least here in Europe.

[@zachfox7771]

needs to be a change in data representation and ownership for sure

[@MarkoZutic]

how does it avoid birds?

[@techgenez]

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[@fgsddsgf3058]

It will create so much noise

[@protoolsfanatic7276]

noise shouldnt be a issue...they are 100 times more quiet than a plane.

[@philosopherofnature6469]

yes. and I don't think it is more noisy than cars

[@wingmanalive]

Planes don't fly 50' off the deck over your neighborhood.

[@prepperjonpnw6482]

And they fly 1,000 times closer to the ground

[@sownheard]

the cars will zone them out.

[@alanreader4815]

Oh here we go droning on again.

[@zachfox7771]

Droning! its amazing how quick things are changing now

[@bridgendesar]

The shark detecting drones could fly for longer if they had wings that could be put into the wind

[@wingmanalive]

Many concerns/issues. One is pirates. Anyone with a pellet gun can shoot these down. The package delivery via parachute would have to fly so low to be accurate in a populated area that everything from telephone wires to trees and buildings would cause a problem. And how do you deliver a package to the 12th floor of a high rise? Then there's air traffic. Birds, kites, OTHER recreational and commercial drones, heck even a loose helium balloon. Then weather, they would be grounded during high winds, rain, snow, ect. In some parts of the country that's 75% of the time. Next is range. A drone isn't delivering a 10lb package 50 miles away. There would have to be a HUGE increase in distribution/warehouse locations to cover the map. The concept of remote rescue is cool, as well as remote drops of medicine/blood in times of need. For commercial use right now though, the cost of recharging the batteries after each delivery and the cost of the drones themselves and the people piloting them would funnel down to the consumer, increasing the cost of his goods. We're not there yet.

[@iforce2d]

Excuse me sir, you are talking too much sense. Be quiet :)

[@TechReview2000]

Guys, let's remember cars, trucks, planes and all vehicles make noise! - Most of them being much louder than drones. Above that, an accident with a drone will be much less fatal than an accident with a "conventional" mean of transportation.

[@dean8223]

Have you noticed it's sunny with no winds, here in the UK come September the weather changes and the parcel you ordered would not get to you until the following next year, still we are watching the BBC and that rubbish program Click.

[@johnpoo1662]

Lara Lewington phwoooarr....

[@zeemazm]

You need to program it to avoid flying car in the future.

[@kimfromnewyork]

well they can, but the law says they cant... why? because any SUA has to be in visual unaided line of sight at all times

[@raymedia020]

Can't wait for the day I can order Dominoes. I can just sit on the sofa and see a drone fly through my window drop my pizza on my table and fly off giving me the thumbs up🖒 . I would love that.

[@joebloe1401]

You are a moron!

[@Gusrikh1]

Very, very interesting ...

[@R-K61]

Dude there motors not engines.

[@diegeeleel]

Dude! It's they're, not there.

[@paulmorris563]

21.03 Robin Williams is alive and well!

[@colincampbell3679]

There be a more simple way to stop sharks attacking swimmers off a beach, build a floating shark fence which has many folding weighted segments hanging down to the bottom of the sea floor, this fence surrounds the full swimming and surfing area of the beach. and as the tide rises and lowers through the day and night the floating top fence moves up or down with it, with the segments either un-folding from the base or folding as there be strong poles holding the main parts in place? the grid like fence could be made of either marine grade stainless steel or some type of carbon fibre and aluminium? the tops of the poles could have bright colours with warning lights for boats. if you fence the area's off both the humans and sharks can do what they wish without hurting or killing each other?

[@r3dp1ll]

very expensive for a large area. Would be curious to see if they can use underwater sound as repellent. www.sharkstopper.com/

[@xkitejunkie]

Shark fences are already in use and have been for some time kzbin.info/www/bejne/h6eqqZSrhbB8jtk however they are very expensive compared to drones and just not practical for large areas. As mentioned in the video currently full sized manned helicopters are flown over popular beaches looking for sharks which is way more expensive and much less effective than these drones. Sophistication of the solution is not the issue, cost and effectiveness is.

[@Andre_XX]

Great, just what I always needed. Noisy drones dropping 9 kg batteries onto my head.

[@kauadutra1367]

Você tem um drone bom mais barato para mim comprar de você

[@karlstulik]

Spotted South African flag on your shirt, nice. 6:28

[@caribbeanchild]

Anyone that flies quad-copters (drones) as a hobby will tell you this will never happen!

[@karolbagh3793]

Nice work bro 😀.

[@pdtech4524]

Well as a drone pilot myself, I can see how drones would be perfect in certain applications but for deliveries? I'm not convinced they will be suitable? Ideal applications would be :- Aerial surveys, search and rescue situations and would make a great tool for the coast guard, police, paramedics or fire brigade. Why do I think drones are not suitable for general delivery of mail order items? Firstly the sheer number that would be needed, this has enormous implications for extra traffic in the air, crashes and danger to the public or property. Limitations of drone battery life and load carrying capacity, eg a drone might only be able to deliver one item them have to return to recharge or replace battery, will this even be economically viable? Environmental conditions, every house location is different, not all ideal for accepting a drone delivery, eg my house is surrounded by tall trees which would almost be impossible to negotiate by drone. What if the package is dropped in my pond or accidently over another garden. What happens if someone notices a drone dropping a delivery in your garden while you're out? There is a chance it could be stolen? Also delivery drones would become targets of theft, especially in inner city areas. The whole thing is fraught with problems that have no easy solution. Who would be controlling them, will they be autonomous? We haven't even got cars that can drive themselves without accidents so how are autonomous drones going to work? Also consider the people that already use the air space that delivery drones will be using ie 0-400ft is already in use by hobbyists worldwide in a wide variety of ways including radio controlled model aircraft, planes, drones etc also kite flyers, hot air balloons, paragliders, hang gliders, racing pigeons, falconry etc etc There are many more!! The current UK Drone code states:- Observe your drone at all times and don't fly within 50m of people or property. So how will that work with a delivery drone? It also states not to fly near airports or airfields Again how will that work with a delivery drone? Many people live near airports!

[@olivierkammerer4141]

thank uou, love the show!

[@aaronbromley4886]

I’m all for drone delivery stuff. But big corporations like amazon and google are trying to completely take our airspace away from us for commercial use. This is our airspace, hobbyists have used it for years and they need to learn that it can be shared.

[@paulmorris563]

I think these big companies are involved with the drone sighting fiascos at uk airports to try and ground liesure/hobby drones/quadcopters to leave the airspace clear for there commercial drone delivery services.

[@joebloe1401]

Just what we need to lower the quality of our lives even further... Our sidewalks and airspace cluttered up with annoying contraptions buzzing about!!!!!!!!

[@duduoshu]

Dropping precise drone bomb would be hmmmm...

[@superscottorama]

How far do i have to walk to get my package? Aint no drone navigating its way on to my porch. Too many trees and a roof over my porch. Just leave it in my driveway so people can steal it easier.

[@Tjosansa]

Well.. why do you edit that first drop from the drone? No way to say if it was real or fake news...

[@DjRHINOInternational1]

you should see the actual on a separate bloomberg interview with the rwanda guy doing deivery kzbin.info/www/bejne/hHPHc2Z9brapp9U

[@lucspook]

motor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! not engine

[@joesterling4299]

Yeah, it's hopeless. A gasoline engine can be a motor, but an electric motor can't ever be an engine. People get mad at me when I point out the basic difference, and the confusion persists.

[@Time364]

Blocking the future, are you serious? we have to move on. Old fellas always don’t like change.

[@Spartacusse]

13:19 "I'll hide behind this guy, because, fuck him."

[@rccrazy7495]

I'm a hobbiest and to commercialize my zero to 400 foot airspace would be pretty screwed up. Keep them in the non populated areas like the jungles or very hard to reach areas. The USA AMA fought the private individuals who wanted to make drones commercialized and won. no drone delivery here! And what about the weather, Rain Snow Wind Heat.. not very reliable or safe. Thanks For The Chance to share my point of view.🤔

[@UNLISTEDWEB]

Untill the first drone will brake in the air and kill someone.

[@Cyrvs71]

Fifteen unprovoked shark attacks? Keep up the good work.

[@AbyssalPlain]

Vodafone need to address issues much closer to home (UK Customer service) before playing with drone flight management - they're coming into this way too late and for the wrong reasons! Shame on you Click and BTW there are already technologies that allow drones to know where others are e.g. DJI's Aeroscope

[@nigeljohnson9820]

Has anyone considered how much money the criminal fraternity can make highjacking the drones or just bring them down. Such attacks would cost a fortune in drone replacements.

[@BB-jq6ek]

Can drones deliver BBC?

[@Afrocanuk]

In crowded cities this will be a disaster.

[@paulbuswell6566]

Amazon delivery drones will never be a reality over even reasonably dense cities. They may have been trialed in backwater places in the middle of nowhere, but big cities are another matter. I am not a criminal and have never been arrested in my life....But I am an electronics engineer and fpv drone flyer/builder. I cannot see a day, with current technology, where drones carrying potentially expensive cargoes, will routinely be whizzing over our heads. These drones will be autonomous. Therefore they will use gps, which utilises a frequency range of between 1- 1.5 GHz. This signal is VERY weak when it reaches the gps puck in the drone..Which makes it incredibly easy to jam/spoof, with a directional antenna. Once a drone loses it position, and is being actively jammed, it will have to land. It is the only safe thing it can do...it can't hover forever. At that point the payload is anyones for the taking.(or place the whole drone in a Faraday cage?) You never jam from the same place twice. If I can think of this, surely the criminals already have?

[@t72oftruth66]

Can the drone not be wireless? So that they are completely closed off? And to communicate with it you would need to plug a cord into it?

[@paulkazjack]

Don't the

[@steelssstu6515]

NO,,,,,,and NO again,I fly them a lot,they all go wrong in time,even the very best ones

[@ggman1254]

steel ssstu There is redundancy in those professional drones, and a better controll System. Safety won't be that big of an issue.

[@garyscott7868]

Not like those you don't :) I think component malfunction will be the cause of any accidents. Depends how well they are maintained. Maybe getting caught in a thunderstorm or sudden high winds. Avoidance systems are only effective up to a certain speed because you have to allow time for stopping so speed could be an issue. Time will tell

[@MrPeterDawes]

Bad enough with helicopters and light aircraft flying over my house, or worse still circling it. Not liking the idea of drones buzzing over head too although I like the idea of Amazon deliveries to my house as I have a large flat roof for them to land on, although bad weather may pose a problem, especially if I'm not in. Don't know why delivery drones aren't build like V22 Osprey, which are capable of VTOL but converts to wing mode in flight to increase range, loiter time, flight speed as well as reduce noise. Police forces should use them for tracking criminals and check on traffic problems rather than waking up residence with noisy expensive to run helicopters in the middle of the night as they do around my house so frequently.

[@sownheard]

cars are a lot worse :l so i can live with drone noise

[@DasIllu]

Let's lay off everyone. Delivery guys, doctors, BBC Journalists, policemen... And then let's tell them how worthless they are now that they are unemployed. I don't say there is no place for drones. But knowing business is knowing that it will end up replacing humans where the only upshot is cutting costs on the expense of human workers.

[@Swaggerlot]

What about the thousands of passengers in aircraft that will be jeopardized by errant drones......:-)

[@briankoch7041]

Imagine how dangerous it will be when birds learn to fly.

[@Swaggerlot]

Birds can fly? OMG......

[@vizionthing]

lol well that went over his head!

[@shad.baksh1]

Nice for traffickers.

[@zachfox7771]

which shows usefulness if nothing else, interesting point!

[@arunironi]

Haha, China already done it. You just started🤣🤣🤣

[@stang98sc]

Can I rim this chick?

[@crashbuilds]

Why are 'goods aircraft' in these types of reports always some generic camera platform octocopter or Phantom derivative? Surely it doesn't give the public the right expectations of these services if the method by which they would conduct themselves is misrepresented? Even the presenters comment on how uncomfortable it is to be near that type of aircraft, when every delivery service deployed currently uses fixed-wing planes! Another dangerous factor to this has been mentioned in the comments a lot - 'outrunner' motor configurations on racing quadcopters and camera platforms are not designed for the types of applications frequently mentioned in the media, but this type of skewing of the facts actually demonizes the activities they are intended for. It's like a bait and switch, you get people upset about the idea of these aircraft being near your home and property, then you tell them "Don't worry, we're only going to license commercial operators to use fixed-wing aircraft, we'll ban all those other types because you're obviously uncomfortable around them." The result is you're priming the public to get upset about leisure activities that lack a commercial interest, but to approve of activities that support those interests.

[@mariostelzner4530]

CAN DRONES DELIVER!? I DON'T KNOW. THEY NEVER DELIVER ANYTHING TO ME. AHAHAHA AHAHAHA LOL!

[@BartCee]

While the technology is impressive I think that using it to delivery coffee is just dumb. Yet more single-use packaging per each cup of coffee just because people can't be bothered to pop the kettle on, seriously? People, stand up, go to the kitchen and make your own coffee, it really is not rocket science. Your laziness is just as advanced as this drone technology. What is going on with you people?

[@trebushett2079]

Sounds bloody awful...

[@snoopiepants6910]

I'm a professional drone operator and builder of drones and this is all bollocks. 1/The most advanced battery technology at the moment only allows approx a 10-12 minute flight time each way at a maximum flight speed of about 30-35 mph assuming its dead calm and no wind speed, with a load/package this equates to about 4-5 miles maximum each way...and this is really pushing it, add 10mph wind and you could half that. I bet 80% of the time you have at least 10 mph winds and another 50% higher winds than that. so if you average the wind speed out on an average day the maximum flight distance each way is no more than a couple of miles! THE TRUCK MAY AS WELL DELIVER THE PARCEL ITSELF. With the most advanced battery technology available at the moment it takes an hour to charge them up..so unless the ups van is carrying as many spare batteries as parcels this is ridiculous. In the USA at least where gun control is almost none existent people will just shoot them out the sky...i bet it will become the next biggest gun sport. These size drones will cost approx 10k to build and if enough of them are shot out the sky it will cost too much to operate, additionally i know how many flights you will get out of each battery before its ready for the bin so add battery cost to the cost of the drone build and running the service and you'll end up with a delivery costing $50 plus...and who's going to pay that? Current obstacle avoidance technology wont be fast enough to detect bird strikes so there's more drones falling out the sky. i can buy on Ebay a cheap jammer that could also down the drone, all these points above would all make way for a black market in cheap advanced commercial drone electronics for sale. I could go on and on with technical reasons why it wont work but i'm off to bed and cant be bothered....peace.

[@sea_kerman]

Flight time wise, what you said only applies to rotorcraft, as they have to fight gravity nonstop. With fixed-wing aircraft, you can get much higher efficiencies. My motor glider can go at a pretty nice clip for around 45 minutes, and its battery is rather small. If I fully loaded my aircraft to its max takeoff weight with batteries, I could probably fly for an hour and a half or more.