What happens when the permafrost thaws?

What happens when the permafrost thaws? | BBC Ideas

Рет қаралды 77,393

Күн бұрын

Around 11% of the Earth's land mass is covered by permafrost. But its delicate balance is being threatened by climate change.
Video by Daniel Nils Roberts. Made in partnership with ‪@royalsociety‬
Subscribe to BBC Ideas 👉 bbc.in/2F6ipav
____________________________
Do you have a curious mind? You’re in the right place.
Our aim on BBC Ideas is to feed your curiosity, to open your mind to new perspectives, and to leave you that little bit smarter.
So dive in. Let us know what you think. And make sure to subscribe! 👉bbc.in/2F6ipav

Visit our website to see all of our videos: www.bbc.com/ideas
And follow BBC Ideas on Twitter: / bbcideas
#Permafrost #ClimateChange #BBCIdeas

Пікірлер: 536

@mkrj2576 3 ай бұрын

And most people will vote for the next leader who promises them the cheapest oil.

@Le_Comte_de_Monte_Felin 3 ай бұрын

... and cling to stupidity as an excuse to not be called ignorant.

@jameschapman6559 3 ай бұрын

As long as people can buy the biggest monstrosity of an SUV or other gas guzzler. They will continue to vote that way.

@OldScientist 3 ай бұрын

The Arctic minimum summer sea ice trend is zero for the past 17 years. In the past few years it was almost as high as 1995. The probability that this could be due to chance has now dropped to 10% (after Swart et al calculations, 2015). If the hiatus continues until 2027, it will become statistically significant (p

@anthonymorris5084 3 ай бұрын

Hopefully.

@jaredoldhouser3301 3 ай бұрын

Better than voting for any Democrat that will continue to destroy our economy.............. lmfao

@Alex-kw9kb 3 ай бұрын

We are staring down the barrel of several major tipping points. Glaciers worldwide are shrinking, both polar icecaps are receding, the permafrost isn't staying permanently frosty. The sooner we get away from coal, gas and oil the better ... but it is probably too late. The global disruption that is coming will start as a trickle, but will end in a flood. Where does the bulk of humanity live? Near coasts. Which areas will be hit the hardest and the soonest? Near the coasts. Time to buy a houseboat.

@OldScientist 3 ай бұрын

@anthonymorris5084 3 ай бұрын

You understand that all of this ice has been melting for the last 20,000 years right? Melting ice isn't going to kill anything. Life flourishes under warming, just like it's done over the last 20,000 years.

@danaplaczek9664 3 ай бұрын

@@anthonymorris5084 You understand that you're an idiot who hasn't a clue what's going on? Like, this melting ice is causing a positive feedback loop by releasing both CO2 and methane, pushing the temps up higher. Like, various low-lying countries are already suffering coastal flooding, and island nations are starting to go under. Like, the acidification of the oceans is killing the bases of the food chain, which will cause a collapse. Like, melting fresh water, especially from Greenland, will likely drastically change the course of the Gulf stream? (I visited Ireland about 10 years ago, and there are palm trees on the southern coast. How cool is that! They can exist because of the Gulf stream. Ireland will become much colder if that changes.) In other words, it's not about "a little melting ice".

@anthonymorris5084 3 ай бұрын

@@danaplaczek9664 When you have no argument, just throw a tantrum and hurl insults. What on Earth makes you think I'm going to read a comment that starts out with an infantile insult. You immediately lose all credibility. I don't chat with children.

@danaplaczek9664 3 ай бұрын

@@anthonymorris5084 LOLOLOL! And by your Climate Change Denial, you've shown yourself to be on an intellectual par with Flat Earthers and Creationists.

@Tormekia 3 ай бұрын

The fact that we can notice the change in a human lifetime should scare the shit out of everyone. Eeek.

@J.M.-nb4gw 3 ай бұрын

Yep it does, we are totally screwed and there's not a damn thing we can do to stop it now 😢

@toomanyradsin2019 3 ай бұрын

And the fact that we can not make any measurable difference to stop it is scary. It's always been that way. ❤

@valoriethechemist 3 ай бұрын

@@J.M.-nb4gwthat's not entirely accurate, if we continue it will be worse... if we can halt our contribution we can limit the severity in many ways... even if we are already in for at least the consequences of 2°C

@RieCherie 3 ай бұрын

There is a whole book written on what we can do, several actually.

@Ominousheat 3 ай бұрын

@@J.M.-nb4gw I notice oil trolls use the 'apathetic' (all hope is lost) tropes on chat posts authored by non-American organisations; but will outright deny climate change is happening in the US chat pages. Have you noticed that?

@phil20_20 3 ай бұрын

And the mycelium shall inherit the Earth (and eat the rich.) 😃

@kasondaleigh 3 ай бұрын

Humanity is doomed.

@Le_Comte_de_Monte_Felin 3 ай бұрын

Nah. Humanity has risen and fallen more times than our history records / admits. Plenty of evidence for it but established academia rests upon established laurels.

@OldScientist 3 ай бұрын

@anthonymorris5084 3 ай бұрын

Not even close.

@shanecollie5177 3 ай бұрын

Yet every possible metric of human wellbeing has never been better than right now, and as developing countries continue to develop it will continue to get better.

@OldScientist 3 ай бұрын

Since 1900 the global temperature has increased by 1.3°C. Despite that humanity has flourished. Life expectancy has more than doubled from 32 to 73 years. Literacy has quadrupled from 21% to 86%. Humans are seven times more productive ($2,241 to $15,212 GDP per capita, per annum). People are better fed, having ⅓ more calories every day (2,192kcal to 2,928kcal). Global extreme poverty rates have tumbled from 70% to less than 10% (

@mralekito 3 ай бұрын

Yet another Climate video ends on “hope”. Yes, let’s “hope” the ice doesn’t melt.

@magesalmanac6424 3 ай бұрын

Wtf would you prefer doom and gloom? Oh you’re a “realist” up on a high horse..

@OfraFan 3 ай бұрын

I think the video ends with "adapt or perish", which is not necessarily optimistic, just a realistic assessment of life and death in a rapidly changing world.

@MelJandric 3 ай бұрын

Nothing to do with hope, take ice out of the freezer and hope it doesn't melt... riiiight.

@OldScientist 3 ай бұрын

@willelrics9027 3 ай бұрын

The Planet will be Fine, with or without us. It's our choice.

@JZsBFF 2 ай бұрын

A choice in ignorance isn't really a choice, is it? It's just... ignorance.

@Helieos45 2 ай бұрын

BBC are communists CO2 is helping our planet get greener and will help to feed the starving because plans grow fast with more CO2. Our planet is 5% greener than it was 20 years ago thanks to more CO2, which is only .04% of the atmosphere.

@karylhogan5758 2 ай бұрын

I read in irish times newspaper that cork university which has kept a yearly account of the Gulf Stream, stated that Gulf Stream has slowed 12% since records began in 1988. In scientific America future climatic warming changes on there models all show a reduction in Gulf Stream.. But it’s happening since 1988 at least…

@juggling8557 3 ай бұрын

great documentary

@VulcanData84 3 ай бұрын

You should watch Nova: Arctic Sinkholes

@OldScientist 3 ай бұрын

Really? The Arctic minimum summer sea ice trend is zero for the past 17 years. In the past few years it was almost as high as 1995. The probability that this could be due to chance has now dropped to 10% (after Swart et al calculations, 2015). If the hiatus continues until 2027, it will become statistically significant (p

@VulcanData84 3 ай бұрын

You should watch Nova: Arctic Sinkholes

@CaptainG-xs3yo 3 ай бұрын

Game Over 😢

@BretttThumbs 2 ай бұрын

Better to warm than to cold

@epiccurious3536 3 ай бұрын

I wonder how long it will be until the atmosphere reaches enough methane saturation level to combust.

@valoriethechemist 3 ай бұрын

Methane represents 0.00017% of the atmosphere. This means that levels of saturation needed for combustion can't occur atmospherically as 5.5% methane would be needed globally. That doesn't mean locally we don't see problems in "natural gas" (methane) releases and leaks. But the atmosphere combusting from methane would be a drastically different world and atmospheric composition.

@DieterZimmermann-yf4le 2 ай бұрын

It would melt, anything else.

@Joyce-v7f Ай бұрын

I've been saying over and over... that fossil fuels, such as coal, oil and gas, contribute to the greenhouse effects.

@grindupBaker 3 ай бұрын

I think What happens when the permafrost thaws is that your big boots go squish squish squish squish. That's just personal anecdote though.

@hemanginipr6974 3 ай бұрын

What I don't understand is, if the USA, Europe, Australia, NZ etc first world countries were FIRST WORLD countries years back, why didn't they try to get to renewable energy faster and get energy efficient at least to 70%, wouldn't it have been better today? Today most blame is put on other developing countries aka the counties which produce the stuff to be sold for those first world countries majorly. what stopped them and what stops them even now? Imagine being vegan/non-vegetarian without thinking about the ecological and climate effects of your diets? Its weird how everyone is just throwing blames around instead of doing something on their own community level or more as an individual.

@valoriethechemist 3 ай бұрын

They did years back. We do and still do. There have been climate pushes since the 70s. In response, major misinformation campaigns and political maneuvering from oil companies (literally stealing the tobacco playbook of lie and tell them it's good for you) halted and prevented much of the progress for decades. What you're observing is more misinformation and political maneuvering.

@WillJ5112 2 ай бұрын

People do not like change particularly as they age and it is older people who control most of the wealth and therefore the power in each country.The permafrost will melt, the only question is when it will affect those who are primarily causing global heating.Until they see their unsustainable lifestyles threatened nothing will be done to help those on the frontline of an existential problem that none of us can avoid indefinitely.

@DiscipleofHim 3 ай бұрын

The flashing graphics are unbearable...cannot watch...good topic though

@nightedpemder4992 2 ай бұрын

Meanwhile, jet fuel today is 2.40 a gallon. Check it out.

@bobdooly3706 2 ай бұрын

Perma frost cant thaw because temp is at or below zero degrees celsius. Its basic scientific fact.

@michaelwelsh7362 3 ай бұрын

Is there really a point relative to the planet or is it just humans because obviously before the current ice age which we are still in there was little if any permafrost before. This disaster scenario seems to be a way for groups of people to assume a position of moral superiority as if we were supposed to be here permanently which is a bit of our narcissistic nature. Have we really done such a good job here that we should be allowed to continue anyway is a legitimate question🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

@josephbaggettjr3493 3 ай бұрын

1st change name to tempfrost!🎉😂

@mainman8098 2 ай бұрын

Future generations are screwed!

@mikebarton 3 ай бұрын

I went to the Arctic once. It was cold and *WONDERFUL* .

@mray8519 3 ай бұрын

What a thing it is to watch the end of your species slowly but surely advancing.

@bouncyfun3 3 ай бұрын

But what a greater thing to watch said "intelligent" species do nothing about it

@binkwillans5138 3 ай бұрын

At least in a sinking ship the rats are able to leave.

@stephenbrown9998 3 ай бұрын

The land will rise

@stuartdownie3704 3 ай бұрын

Stop Alaskan gold mining if it's such a problem, but we know that's not happening$$$$$$$

@shanecollie5177 3 ай бұрын

When the holocene interglacial started around 14000 years ago, massive ice sheets over a mile deep receeded rapidly,exposing huge areas of permafrost,which rapidly melted ( think canadian praries) many of those areas are now productive farm land. The melting of the permafrost was a consequence of entirely natural forces causing rapid warming, it was not the cause. Therefor there is zero reason to conclude that the relatively tiny amount of permafrost thaw now can have any effect on temp, as a much larger historical thaw had zero effect on temperature

@scottekoontz 3 ай бұрын

We should be cooling. You are claiming "my gut feelings with zero science background are telling me" and it's completely wrong. Why deny the work of every single scientist who has worked on this issue?

@shanecollie5177 3 ай бұрын

@@scottekoontz The fact that an interglacial started around 14000 years ago is questioned by noone the fact that ice melts when temperature rises above0 deg C is not in question, the fact that permafrost has melted and then refrozen many a time through earths geologic history is not in question, The fact that after previous glacial retreats (and therefor by implication permafrost thawing) there was no feedback warming loop from methane, means there is no reason for it to occur now. There are a large number of scientists who do not believe that co2 is the control knob of earths climate system.

@scottekoontz 3 ай бұрын

@@shanecollie5177 "Therefor there is zero reason to conclude that the relatively tiny amount of permafrost thaw now can have any effect on temp" I'm still laughing. Ever hear of methane? "There are a large number of scientists who do not believe that co2 is the control knob of earths climate system." Maybe 100. Good luck with that 0.1%.

@valoriethechemist 3 ай бұрын

@@shanecollie5177 No, us real scientists use energy calculations that are now In Zetajoules added. We're talking meteor strike that ended the dinosaurs type of energy. It doesn't happen in a single impact such as with a meteor however. We are much more in oscillating a longer term energy dissipation wave that we're slowly amplifying with each oscillation. Simply put, when people make the kind of claim you have they are merely revealing that they learned enough to think they're correct and no where near enough to know they're incorrect and hopelessly lost in terms of actually appreciating what's occurring. I suggest you go to a university and attend a lecture of the best climate scientist you can find and ask them your questions prior to guessing more in comments.

@grindupBaker 2 ай бұрын

@@shanecollie5177 "There are a large number of scientists who do not believe that co2 is the control knob of earths climate system" S.B. "There are a large number of charlatans who do not "believe" that co2 is the control knob of earths climate system".

@billbaden742 3 ай бұрын

Come on! No worries!

@davidguthrie4724 3 ай бұрын

apoplectic abomb

@JZsBFF 2 ай бұрын

WSF!

@davidguthrie4724 3 ай бұрын

how many peepl made this smoke n share their carcinogens

@petervaughan3875 2 ай бұрын

Bbc are so full of shit 😅👏 great work

@bonysminiatures3123 2 ай бұрын

it won't ...

@johnauner671 2 ай бұрын

Methane comes out regardless of warming permafrost, ocean methane-hydride, or composting weeds and wood. No- emission biochar is an answer to some of that.

@willanderson5088 3 ай бұрын

Considering how many times the climate has changed long before humans ever where on this planet I’m not to lost in the idea that people are doing it or that it’ll be anything more then the natural cycle of earth.

@valoriethechemist 2 ай бұрын

@@willanderson5088 Any experiment I can do in a lab suggests otherwise and by direct observations the lab equivalents do seem to hold up. There's nothing natural about zetajoules of energy being released into the environment as we're doing apart from extreme, prolonged volcanic activity or a meteor impact. The climate changing is part of a thermal wave of heating and cooling. In experiments, even small variations in energy produce profound results... tending to be more so in more complex systems and when the rate of change is amplified and that can add to such impact.

@projectcontractors 3 ай бұрын

"There are huge non climate effects of carbon dioxide which are overwhelmingly favorable which are not taken into account. To me that's the main issue that the earth is actually growing greener. This has been actually measured from satellites the whole earth is growing greener as a result of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. So it's increasing agricultural yields, it's increasing the forests, it's increasing all kinds of growth in the biological world and that's more important and more certain than the effects on climate." ~Freeman Dyson, Institute of Advanced Study in Princeton, New Jersey.

@valoriethechemist 2 ай бұрын

@@projectcontractors We do see a planet which is greener than it was a few years ago but we're not even half as green as we used to be in preindustrial times. It would take trillions of trees and full biodiversity to support them to address barely 30% of what we emit. Plants also emit CO2. And there's a LOT more to the complexity here. And those of us who study such things do understand the life cycle and chemistry of plants. But what was said was at a time where we had a lot less of what's occurring studied. The chemistry and historical data we've examined shows a period in which this statement would be true followed by much greater negative impacts. I simply wouldn't take this quote to heart.

@AORD72 3 ай бұрын

More trees and plants will grow.

@SamWilkinsonn 3 ай бұрын

Oh really? Outpacing the tens of thousands of hectares that are burning right now?

@AWalkWithWhizzy 3 ай бұрын

It's cold. How fast do you think they will grow?

@DSAK55 3 ай бұрын

Which will accelerate Global Warming. Learn some science.

@neiladlington950 3 ай бұрын

Yep, the planet will do fine, even though many the present day flora and fauna will be replaced by new flora and fauna able to adapt to the conditions of the day. Probably mark the end of the Anthropocene however and a million years from now the geological evidence for its existence will be less than a half inch of geological strata buried under more than a few feet of the next geological era strata which will probably be much more abundant due to being longer lived.

@shanecollie5177 3 ай бұрын

@@SamWilkinsonn You do realize that global burn acreage is much lower than it was a centuary ago?

@mrsjamessmom9044 3 ай бұрын

I've been banging the gong about this issue for a few years. Not to mention the ancient viruses and fungi that has been tucked away under the permafrost.

@OldScientist 3 ай бұрын

@bobdooly3706 2 ай бұрын

@@OldScientist . Thus your conclusion is, " GLOBAL WARMING IS A HOAX. "

@Helieos45 2 ай бұрын

@festeradams3972 2 ай бұрын

@@OldScientist We are now set to go below the 2012 minimum as the NSIDC graph now shows. It's been down spiraling for the last 10-15 years as the planet heats (now ABOVE 2C since 1750). Info from the GRACE and GRACE FO sensors shows Greenland Ice Mass Loss at around 5 Gigatons since around 2002. It has also been noted that the Antarctic Ice Shelf has failed to re-freeze normally during the last two years. You do not have to be a "Scientist" (I have 3 quarters of college physics) to realize the implications of a Blue Ocean Event in the Arctic and what loss of Shelf Ice will mean to the Antarctic. You went "the long way around the barn" to say you're a Denier, That these exponential changes are now occurring is something that certain Agencies and Military around the world do know (who must have the most accurate data available...) but also know that telling the Public just how bad it is would not please them (the public) at all! Those who have dared to say just how bad it's getting (Climatologists, Meteorologists,) have had to contend with Death Threats....From right-wing deniers in this country.

@ajeshnisingh2557 Ай бұрын

Yes and I believe that might be the next pandemic in the world, especially affecting the Pacific island nations with the health risks

@liberty-matrix 3 ай бұрын

@valoriethechemist 3 ай бұрын

Yes, and then that biosphere produces even more CO2 as plants emit that at night. The past shows that as temperatures increase the biosphere emits more CO2 and the warming is amplified. The "the earth is greener, everything's fine" concept is total misinformation.

@EattheApple666 3 ай бұрын

To bad Scientists didn't warn us about this in the 1950s.... oh wait. My bad.

@OldScientist 3 ай бұрын

@anthonymorris5084 3 ай бұрын

Too bad climate zealots haven't understood that no threat is materializing.

@mafarmerga 3 ай бұрын

Name five people who truly understand what is meant by a 'positive feedback loop'

@grindupBaker 3 ай бұрын

@@mafarmerga "Name five people" Me. I'm 1 people but you should see me putting on weight.

@grindupBaker 3 ай бұрын

@OldScientist "Arctic minimum summer sea ice trend is zero for the past 17 years" S.B. "Arctic minimum summer sea ice Extent trend is zero for the past 17 years" You're doing valuable Public Service by informing about ultra-ultra-ultra-short eye blink times such as a few years or couple decades such as informing that an ENSO cycle exists and similar toddler-level gunf, all of which (ultra-ultra-ultra eye blink time ups & downs & ups & downs & ups & downs & ups & downs) is definitely the way to work for the honest intelligent scientist with no interest in money to figure out the warming over the next 400 years that has massively-solidly been set in motion. For sure babbling Crap and this or that for last Tuesday or a few years ago is the proper way to do it.

@kenwallace6493 2 ай бұрын

Seems like a positive feedback loop with unknown limits, including extinction level temperature rise.

@seanreid349 3 ай бұрын

This is not telling you that methane is 20 times worse than CO2

@robe2504 3 ай бұрын

Exactly. I don't understand why scientists tiptoe around the significance of passing tipping points that just set the planet on a self fueling spiral towards an extinction level event for humans.

@seanreid349 3 ай бұрын

@@OldScientist so, you are saying methane isn't a problem, the perma frost is fine, nothing to see here? Your fingers must be sore, all that typing

@seanreid349 3 ай бұрын

@@OldScientist I don't believe you are a scientist, methane is still 20 times more potent at trapping heat than CO2

@BrianMccaulley-b1y 3 ай бұрын

@@OldScientistdon’t give them real facts they just tell you that you false science , we been coming out of an ice age fir 40,000 years , a mini ice age 1400 years ago , the earth as been much warmer , co2 has been much higher in past centuries , we are warming because we are going back to pre ice age normal temps , this all scare tactic to get money . Co2 is plant food and has little do food with warming , at 400 to 500 parts per million , things grow faster , stronger , produce more , and will use up even more co2 . These scientists told us in 1979 that we were headed back into the next ice age .

@anthonymorris5084 3 ай бұрын

Methane is absorbed in around 10 -12 years.

@grahamkearnon6682 3 ай бұрын

The human animal has spent some centuries first stripping the land of trees, the use & abuse of the Oceans came next , quickly followed by the atmosphere. The young lady researcher gave an honest answer ie NO. The poisen mix is now upon us, 30 yrs for normal life.

@OldScientist 3 ай бұрын

@markberryhill2715 3 ай бұрын

You will be lucky if you live to see thirty years in the future. Real lucky

@anthonymorris5084 3 ай бұрын

@@markberryhill2715 There isn't a scientist on the face of the Earth that would back this ridiculous hyperbolic claim. This is why we don't take you folks seriously.

@wolfheart763 2 ай бұрын

Greed and ignorance will destroy humanity in the end. It's all about profit and money. Sadly

@anthonymorris5084 2 ай бұрын

@@wolfheart763 How myopic. Humanity has never been safer, healthier or more prosperous than at any time in history, by any measurement you care to examine. Humans are problem solvers and we create wondrous things. What you call greed, I call drive and ambition. Greed is an epithet used against anybody who is successful and has more than you do, because of course you're not greedy. What on Earth is wrong with "profit"? A profit is nothing but positive. It benefits the person who generated the profit and humanity benefits from the product and service that was created.

@BradHerdman-s7b 3 ай бұрын

What the average person does not understand and they really do need to know this and take heed, is that the damage is done . Even if tomorrow we stopped all CO2 being admitted into the atmosphere it would not have any desired affect. The best scenario is it would slow down a little bit. It's like a start of a long marathon once the starting shot was fired it's already to late. The feedback loop is already in affect. Once the global atmosphere goes passed a certain point which it has already, its just a long slope to global change in land and sea. The earth will still be here just not the same as we know it now. Coastline , mass migration inland , and as always in every disaster the poor will suffer and probably die first. Agricultural land will be affected greatly , meaning starvation on a mass scale. If you are under the age of 20 you will witness these changes with your own eyes. What we are witnessing now is the just a small footnote of the horror to come.

@J.M.-nb4gw 3 ай бұрын

Yep exactly 💯 I'm now 64 years old and very glad that we decided to not have children, we are totally headed towards an apocalyptic future and I hope I'm gone before it completely collapses 😢

@grahamkearnon6682 3 ай бұрын

You will find that most will starve long before your feet get wet!

@MontyFly 3 ай бұрын

Aren't you the optimist thinking only 20 somethings will see the inevitable. I believe we have passed several transition events already. These usually have taken much longer to happen than what has and is currently happening so the freight train is gaining speed. Otherwise you are pretty on point but, you forgot about the wars for resources.

@BradHerdman-s7b 3 ай бұрын

@MontyFly good point , and yes, in the face of certain catastrophe I suppose I'm a little optimistic

@lesliepropheter5040 3 ай бұрын

The plates are moving, you’ve got volcanoes and tsunamis, Farallon Plate triggers San Andreas fault - triggers Helina Slump - better 😂 call Jesus my friend

@vonrock6862 3 ай бұрын

It’s not permanent now.

@Helieos45 2 ай бұрын

@Jc-ms5vv 2 ай бұрын

@@Helieos45😂😂😂

@SheilaPatterson Ай бұрын

It’s tempofrost

@thomashughes_teh 3 ай бұрын

In the future the survivors will reference the tipping point years when things happened faster than could be managed and a killer heat belt split the planet into north and south habitable zones.

@anthonymorris5084 3 ай бұрын

Or, like every doomsday cult prior, we'll look back and realize how emotional, alarmist and myopic everybody behaved.

@boblatkey7160 2 ай бұрын

Survivors? I think not.

@robertmarmaduke186 2 ай бұрын

@@thomashughes_teh If you could reliably see even 15 minutes into the Future, you would Own the World. You can't see past your own nose.

@phil3768 3 ай бұрын

Those who contributed least to our problems sacrifice the most to their way of life, those living in the far north, those living on low elevation islands, diverse animals in the rainforests. It's our new sad reality. Too few at the top are willing to change their way of life as we watch the slow decline of life on earth.

@anthonymorris5084 3 ай бұрын

The only "decline of life on Earth" is plant and animal life all due from overfishing, poaching and habitat destruction due to human encroachment. Warming hasn't killed anything. Rising populations are killing everything.

@AWalkWithWhizzy 3 ай бұрын

Permafrost is so important to our survival. I remember learning about it when I was 7 and I am 62. So in 55 years, the permafrost is melting.

@VulcanData84 3 ай бұрын

Another Great Documentary To Watch Is Nova: Arctic Sinkholes

@FMFvideos 2 ай бұрын

I guess the permafrost wasn't so permanent..

@muhammad-bin-american 3 ай бұрын

R.I.P.

@OldScientist 3 ай бұрын

@danaplaczek9664 3 ай бұрын

Yes, it was a good run... I have apologized, profusely, to my son for the uber mess we're leaving him.

@OldScientist 3 ай бұрын

@muhammad-bin-american 3 ай бұрын

@@OldScientist Its settled. The 'expert' has spoken. I can sleep well now. All is well. Have a great day.

@danaplaczek9664 3 ай бұрын

@@OldScientist LOLOLOL! Tell that to the people now under a heat dome in the US. Or the Californians enduring wildfires every summer, a few of which don't actually stop in the fall. I've already mentioned other consequences. Since actual evidence means nothing to you, let's talk about the radical greens who think it's real: First is the big oil companies themselves. It's clear from released documents that the oil companies new about global warming at leas as far back as the early 70s. They of course did the "rational" thing - they suppressed the information. Next is the Republican Party, back when it was at least rational. In 1988 hearings were held on the problem, in a totally Republican-controlled Congress under Ronald Reagan. Those hearings concluded that Global Warming is a potential problem that needed to be serious studies. Reagan's successor Bush the Elder issued a Proclamation declaring this. Given the timing of Big Oil's obfuscation campaign, I'm betting that a Texas oil man declaring GW a problem made them nervous. That was the end of a rational Repub Party... Finally is that well-known radical enviro group, the US military. For a few decades now they've been planning for environmental crisis. Of course, being the military this planning mostly involved resource war scenarios, especially water. Because of Global Overheating and the resultant increase in storm intensity, it's now very difficult to impossible to get property insurance in states such as Florida. This will get worse. Your position is an amazingly ignorant one, in the true sense of ignoring the facts. And like arguing with Flat Earthers or Creationists, I'm just wasting my time engaging.

@maryjeanjones7569 3 ай бұрын

When permafrost melts, methane is released into the atmosphere. This has dire consequences for global warming.

@anthonymorris5084 3 ай бұрын

The entire northern hemisphere was once covered in mile thick ice. When the ice receded the permafrost melted. Methane was released. Humans survived just fine without an ounce of technology.

@maryjeanjones7569 3 ай бұрын

Yes however the planet didn't have 8 Billion people at that time. Global warming will affect many humans in many ways.

@anthonymorris5084 3 ай бұрын

@@maryjeanjones7569 That's a totally separate argument. Climate policies will have a vastly greater detrimental effect on humanity than warming. Poverty kills countless millions more than warming ever will and all climate policies induce greater poverty. Warming isn't the threat, climate policy is the threat. Warming has occurred over the last 200 years. During this entire period humans have never been safer, healthier or more prosperous than at any time in history.

@maryjeanjones7569 3 ай бұрын

@@anthonymorris5084 Climate change causes icebergs to melt which causes oceans to rise which causes flooding all around the globe. This destroys crops which affects people's ability to eat and sell their crops. Lack of rain makes it difficult to grow crops. Very dry earth is causing many wildfires around the globe. Etc, etc, etc

@anthonymorris5084 3 ай бұрын

@@maryjeanjones7569 According to NASA sea levels are rising at 3.4mm per year. This is imperceptible without scientific instruments. It's less than half a meter in a hundred years. Food production continues to rise. This trend has never been interrupted. The planet is not experiencing a "lack of rain". Inexpensive reliable energy allows us to irrigate crops. The Canadian Ministry of Natural Resources has fire data for Canada. They have a graph right on their web page that shows an uninterrupted decline in forest fires for the last 44 years. That's how far back the data goes. The American forestry department has fire data going back more than 75 years. It shows a precipitous decline in both burn acreage and forest fires. The statements you are making are simply not backed by the data. You are just parroting climate tropes.

@jamesbohlman4297 3 ай бұрын

The building codes are going to change on both sides of the US/Canadian border.

@g3440-g1q 2 ай бұрын

What is even the point of mentioning that thawing permafrost has the potential to open up new mining and farming opportunities? It's not going to amount to anything if in the process we have tipped the climate to such a severity that the Earth is increasingly uninhabitable. It also completely glazes over the infrastructural challenge it would be to develop those industries atop periglacial environments that have been thrown into a state of imbalance by permafrost thaw. It's pretty irresponsible to frame the further development of environmentally harmful industries as a potential "positive" to the widespread environmental destruction we are observing in the Arctic, especially to the general public who have little public education on Physical Geography in general. As a Masters student who did her undergraduate thesis on the active layer and is undertaking further permafrost research, it is really disappointing to see this being framed in any other way than disasterous - even if it was only for a few seconds.

@endlessadventure541 Ай бұрын

Carbon and methane continue to march up and up. We continue to destroy our forests. Nothing has changed.

@damag3plan 3 ай бұрын

We're doomed cause rich people don't give a fuck

@JonathanLoganPDX 2 ай бұрын

Not JUST rich people - MOST people don't give a fuck. MOST people won't change until they are forced to change.

@peterp5099 3 ай бұрын

How do we recognize if we have already crossed the point where the methane released from thawing permafrost fuels climate warming sufficiently to make even more permafrost thaw? How can we know if there is still a point in trying to stop climate warming, or we have already crossed the tipping point beyond which thawing permafrost will keep releasing methane and making the climate warmer until all permafrost is thawed?

@grindupBaker 3 ай бұрын

We use Brainiac Power for that. That's why @peterp5099 should do it and the rest of us loaf around and wait for the answer.

@valoriethechemist 2 ай бұрын

@@peterp5099 great questions, to offer some direction... we've hit the very beginning of that tipping point... can it be corrected is up for debate... and the methane will oxidize into CO2. There's absolutely a point to stopping our pollution emissions. We can survive a 2°C world. 3°C gets sketchy. But the 5-7°C world we would be headed for if we continue business as usual would be cataclysmic for humanity. Additionally, the major impacts in the 1.5-2°C range can be mitigated to some degree if we're actively lowering our emissions and preventing the large scale devastation from the 100 largest polluting entities. We're in flux, we're at the tipping point, not quite crossed over... we're hoping at least. This means we could likely prevent some from melting entirely... and at least the bottom layers hundreds of feet into the earth. Don't think of permafrost as just the ice on the surface. It descends quite deep.

@Nathan-hb3pu 2 ай бұрын

@@valoriethechemist don't worry about it life's not long enough 👍

@valoriethechemist 2 ай бұрын

@@Nathan-hb3pu I don't so much worry, as I do study. And hope for an outcome beneficial to the people of this world. It's not that the dangers aren't worrisome. But rather that my hope is for a better path.

@Nathan-hb3pu 2 ай бұрын

@@valoriethechemist good on ya

@SamWilkinsonn 3 ай бұрын

How old's this footage? 2:43 she's on about October, was that 2023 or before? I'm not complaining, just curious. It was a nice little video. We've wounded the Earth alright, with countless cuts over a long period of time, slicing several arteries. 7:05 was a great answer.

@OldScientist 3 ай бұрын

@henaimtiyaz4189 3 ай бұрын

Permafrost- carbon sinks

@J.M.-nb4gw 3 ай бұрын

Yep exactly and just wait for all that methane to be released very soon, we are totally screwed 😢

@JZsBFF 2 ай бұрын

@@J.M.-nb4gw As far as I know that's already ongoing since a couple of decades.

@neiladlington950 3 ай бұрын

Lol, I think it was the Canadian writer, Farley Mowat, in the late eighties or early nineties who said, if we start now we MIGHT be able to avert this crises. Thirty years later and here we are. It's like inflation. We think we're doing something about it, but reducing inflation is not eliminating it and now we know we can't, short of letting our whole civilization collapse.. And now we think by addressing our carbon footprints we think we're "doing something about it" when, like inflation, man made climate change keeps growing and accelerating.

@valoriethechemist 3 ай бұрын

Individual responsibility in carbon footprint is pretending a fraction of an 8 billionth of 6% of a problem is more likely to alter the problem than regulating and addressing the 100 entities producing 70% or more of the problem.

@biomechanique6874 3 ай бұрын

There's nothing man-made about it. The comet impact of the Younger Dryas that buried all those plants and animals under snow and ice caused this. It was always going to thaw and the clock started ticking thousands of years ago.

@Voting-does-nothing 3 ай бұрын

@@valoriethechemistbro we are leaving an ice age .... Happened thousands of times before..... Stop believing what politicians who are trying to make money tell you........

@krzysztofkowalski2816 2 ай бұрын

if they have time travel i dont get why no fix. Only going forward paradox?

@wladynoszhighlights5989 3 ай бұрын

Must be hard to live there. Much respect to the people living there!

@annanelson6830 3 ай бұрын

I feel blessed to live near Fairbanks, Alaska. As I listen to the heat-related hazards people are living with “down south,” I appreciate that I can always wear more clothes and insulate my house to survive the cold. I would not be surprised to learn that it takes less energy to heat a well-insulated house than to cool one from the temperatures in phoenix. I guess that would depend on many factors. It’s also getting warmer here, so staying warm is easier than it used to be.

@Nathan-hb3pu 2 ай бұрын

@@annanelson6830 garbage

@nomadedoasfalto 3 ай бұрын

Agora é tarde demais o clima mudou e não tem mais volta.....a temperatura irá aumentar cada vez mais.......

@garypippenger202 3 ай бұрын

Tragically, it will be hard to direct sufficient resources to smaller populations when we start seeing climate change deaths in densely populated areas.

@OldScientist 3 ай бұрын

@markfarrugia8226 2 ай бұрын

Stop the flashing imaging and talk some sense with references when you state something. Otherwise you are just talking crap

@saintrambone 2 ай бұрын

Correlations and probabilities and cause and effect are of interest to me. The splitting of the earths crust to the magma in long fissures by way of nuclear bombs has occurred in the pursuit of lithium. The effects are two fold from the Salton sea to Mojave magma fissure. First the Salton sea over time from 2000 to 2020 went dry. But more importantly the earths atmosphere has heated up. The North Pole was noted to diminish in its ice cap from 2000 to 2020 in an incremental fashion over time. The North Pole ice cap is kept cold by the South Pole ice cap. 10 percent of polar ice is in North Pole and 90 percent is in South Pole. I estimate 150 to 360 years and a major polar ice depletion will cause catastrophic effects to the eco systems of the earth. Polar ice cap disequilibrium will be at its worst with heat pockets causing greater fires and greater floods and tornadoes and hurricanes. The apparent war I saw in 1999 in federal banking regulation and the Salton indicates I may have been deceived and maybe not. The lithium wars correlated with the murders and replacement of billionaire business men like Warren Buffett circa 1990 and federal banking regulators over the years. The escalation for war as in the 2001 deception of the Muslims in planes attacking the World Trade Center indicates the opaque block did not stand still. The opaque block is sometimes seen as the unstoppable force. They can he stopped. You have to shut off the noise. They may disappear they may have to be executed. The sheets machines where delusion of a person taunting you to fight is behind or away from a bright light. Many of us were made infertile. Some of us were genetically altered to not really human. I was offered death once at age 13. Ruby a matriarch of a brothel and an orphanage offered me a needle with morphine and even had a wood casket brought to the front door. The splitting of the earths crust is our coffin. Salton sea lithium production creates a myriad of effects. Fog is thicker and longer lasting in areas of the California southern coast Fungus is growing on some trees. It could impact fruit trees. 3 peaches for $3 dollars sale price. I was labeled criminal by the opaque block and my medical records were written by bureaucrats with criminal intent in California ij 2001. I have been severely injured with attacks in 2001 and 2004 and 2024. The last time they really hurt me. But somehow I saw iraq and Kuwait as victimized as myself. The truth is I want exit from life and I want change. I can likely get what I want if I go to the Muslim nations bludgeoned by the opaque block. I want a peaceful exit. The opaque block does not like to allow peaceful exit. They like warfare as it profits them financially. A joke. In some places they cook eggs in the sand. If you put eggs in the sand over the magma crevice from Hector mine Mojave desert to south Salton sea they may be over cooked. All I want is out peacefully. Kurt Brown Saintrambone Mobile Audit Club

@PacoOtis 22 күн бұрын

You expect us to respect your professional knowledge and yet you have childish intrusive music like this? WTF??

@OldScientist 2 ай бұрын

When it comes to tipping points this is what the IPCC (Special Report on implications of 1.5C or more warming, Chapter 3) says:“there is little evidence for a tipping point in the transition from perennial to seasonal ice cover. No evidence has been found for irreversibility or tipping points, suggesting that year-round sea ice will return given a suitable climate”. The IPCC also do not believe the melting of the arctic permafrost will cause a tipping point in the release of warming methane gas “the carbon released to the atmosphere from thawing permafrost is projected to be restricted to 0.09-0.19 Gt C yr-1 at 2°C of global warming and to 0.08-0.16 Gt C yr-1 at 1.5°C, which does not indicate a tipping point”. The Earth's climate is a multi input thermodynamic system and will conform to Le Chatelier's Principle.

@climateteacherjohnj7763 Ай бұрын

Human activities "could" turn this around conceivably. It will mean having to sacrifice the consumption-at-all-costs lifestyle that's already got people trapped. It'll mean having to give up the American Lawn Status Symbol and grow food and restore nature. That's going to be hard on some billionaires for sure. It'll mean giving up on second garages and storage facilities for all the crap we never needed in the first place. Uh, oh, panic is setting in! It might mean lowering rents and ending homelessness so that people can have time for their families, communities, and gardens. "OMG, NO!!!" screams the billionaire through fattened purple lips, his jowls rumbling in consternation, "we can never let that happen!"

@billandrews 2 ай бұрын

It is 250 degrees above the atmosphere, only 76 degrees on the surface. 174 degrees of solar heat gone, blocked out by the CO2 and other “greenhouse gases”. Yes, they keep some heat in, about 20 degrees, but they block out 194 degrees for a net temperature of 174. Gilbert Plass is the father of CO2 warming. His paper in 1955 THE CARBON DIOXIDE THEORY OF CLIMATE CHANGE started all this idiocy. The first sentence of the Abstract for his papers states: “The most recent calculations of the infra-red flux in the region of the 15 micron CO2, band show that the average surface temperature of the earth increases 3.6” C if the CO2 concentration in the atmosphere is doubled and decreases 3.8’ C if the CO2 amount is halved, provided that no other factors change which influence the radiation balance.” You get warming ONLY if added CO2 does not change the radiation balance, meaning the heat entering does not fall with added CO2. Before satellites, all scientists worked from the assumption that the sun mostly produced visible light and little heat. That visible light warmed the earth as the levels of CO2 and water vapor blocked out all the sun’s heat. Adding CO2 will not block out more incoming Sun heat as the was so little coming in to begin with. But this is wrong. Heat is the majority of the sun’s radiation. 30% of the sun’s heat makes it past the atmosphere, so adding more CO2 does change the radiation balance. Added CO2 blocks out more sun heat cooling the earth and reversing the greenhouse effect! Which is what Plass’s paper said. Plass assumed that added CO2 did not change the radiation balance, so added CO2 created a warmer earth, but he was wrong, added CO2 created a cooler earth. 250 above, only 76 degrees below. Cooler earth hotter atmosphere. The Troposphere is getting warmer with added CO2, not the surface. The CO2 in the troposphere is absorbing more incoming sun heat and getting warmer. We are getting warmer, but that is because the Little Ice Age (LIA), ended in 1850. The Earth has been warming up since then. Snow has been melting and the oceans have been warming up. With less and less cold left over from the LIA the warming is accelerating. We are going back to the Earth that existed in the last Inter-Glacial Period when Iceland was baren of ice and the seas were 26 feet higher than today. 20,000 years ago the seas were 110 feet lower than today. This is how it goes on the Earth, warm to cold, low seas to high seas. This is just the first time mankind has had the education and intelligence to understand what is happening. Neanderthals lived through the last Ice Age but they didn’t know there was an ice age, it was just the way it was. Earlier hominids had no idea that they were in an inter-glacial age. All they knew was it was it was warm. Plass’s work is on the internet just google and read it for yourself, you only need to read the first sentence in the abstract.

@oksyar 2 ай бұрын

At first i thought why do they always have to make beautiful documentary sad but then i realized they made miserable story little beautiful by showing ice landscapes. Yes we know we have got to protect the planet but that's all left for China isn't it? They are the ones making better and affordable batteries and reducing EV costs and producing them at masses while Europe and USA are throwing stones in their effort of converting global trend towards renewables just because they are not getting bigger peace of the Pie. What's the point of making documentary if they themself don't care about it.

@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885 2 ай бұрын

no mention of ESAS methane? oops.

@danielbarbour3501 2 ай бұрын

Good subject matter - terrible presentation (do people really want to watch headache-inducing image flashes????)

@4Kandlez 13 күн бұрын

3:00 If she thinks that is 0.6 centimetres none of her data is credible.

@DSAK55 3 ай бұрын

The permafrost *IS* thawing right now.

@Nathan-hb3pu 2 ай бұрын

Don't worry about it life's not long enough

@FishFeelPain 3 ай бұрын

Why are they wearing fur on their hoods?!? Fur is cruel--if you care about the environment I would hope you'd care about the animals who live in it too.

@Kennybooy9 Ай бұрын

What pathetic emotive responses some of these non scientific people have. Hahaha… know you know why shes a preacher. They spew emotion

@Design_no 3 ай бұрын

Do people realise the earth would actually be in a mini ice age right now, if it wasn't for human civilisation. Many comments here demonstrate astounding ignorance.

@boblatkey7160 2 ай бұрын

The positive feedback loops have already begun. I believe the human race will be done by 2100.

@richanother673 3 ай бұрын

Please type in Greta Thunberg connects climate ecological and health crisis

@czg2012 3 ай бұрын

the end of the stable age is approaching. the chaotic age is near. to every thing there is a season.

@Bateman48174 2 ай бұрын

Earth has to go sometime, am I right?! The Sun was going to get us eventually anyway.

@mperlatti 3 ай бұрын

Just saying it isn’t good enough… You gotta prove this with no words. Show us hands on proof.

@bill8985 2 ай бұрын

And most people will get married and have several children.

@northerncoloradotransparen1454 2 ай бұрын

It is game over and happening faster with each day that passes.

@poulhenne 25 күн бұрын

But everything will be fine in our boomers lifetime. That is apparently the only thing that matter. Climate denialism is proportional with our age.

@BretttThumbs 2 ай бұрын

Carbon dioxide grows vegation

@bademoxy 2 ай бұрын

answer: The END of the last ICE AGE.

@Lokidog1 3 ай бұрын

At about 7:00 minutes in they suggest they will be able to grow crops if the permafrost melts. Idiots.

@J.M.-nb4gw 3 ай бұрын

Yeah that's definitely not gonna happen

@chrisfernandes3353 3 ай бұрын

With even the slightest increase in temperature, humans can't function as they normally could. The zombie survivors won't be lucid enough to plant crops, they'll be brain hunting!

@Le_Comte_de_Monte_Felin 3 ай бұрын

Greenland was named that for a reason... grains & sheep were both farmed about a millennia ago.

@robertmarmaduke186 17 күн бұрын

@@Le_Comte_de_Monte_FelinOnly in protected fjord valleys, but not on retreating ice shields where there's only rock flour, sand and gravel. In Alberta they are restoring permafrost pit excavation after stripping the ice out, then remixing the granular soil then blading the scalped tundra back and tree planting. Only perennial plants and grasses survive the cold.

@AlbuquerqueImaging 2 ай бұрын

odheeserfloens to the entire planet?

@BretttThumbs 2 ай бұрын

Probably find dinosaurs

@BretttThumbs 2 ай бұрын

Better to warm than to cold

@StressRUs 2 ай бұрын

Temp's. today in Greenland are well above freezing, both day and night, with isobars running from the Gulf to Greenland. I suspect similar across the arctic permafrost. The tipping point has been reached and crossed. If you respond, try to use something a bit more intelligent than indescript imagoes.

@Nathan-hb3pu 2 ай бұрын

Garbage

@robertmaloney2255 2 ай бұрын

Tell you what happens, it's the same that's happened every 200,000 years for billions of years. Think it's going to change for us animals lol

@Jc-ms5vv 2 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

@Fidelio_Kant 2 ай бұрын

A wounded Earth says a Norwegian whose country got rich drilling and selling oil.

@poulhenne 25 күн бұрын

At least they spend their profits on sustainable energy. Not just more fracking like Canada and the US. If there is a more harmful choice, the US will make that choice.

@AndTecks 3 ай бұрын

I am not scared at all. Ive just accepted the failure and greed of humanity

@paulachenkonobert3802 3 ай бұрын

Then, cover your head and cower in your hole. Life is still worth living. Stop living in fear.

@saintallnights7239 3 ай бұрын

What happened all the previous ties it thawed? Was it Fred Flintstone's car? Or during the periods when it was not there at all? Like the Jurassic period? The Himalayas are younger then many animals. Personally and on social media I am known to not only be a multi-disciplined scientist but also have around 300 accurate predictions to my name. Someone that told MSM a very long time ago that I am ignored at your proverbial peril. Now part of a consortium of scientists, engineers and other experts from around the world.

@valoriethechemist 2 ай бұрын

@@saintallnights7239 Actually we do study such Phanerozoic climate changes and find that the previous thaws are related to the same factors were observing today. The rates of changes and mechanisms are different but the changes and their drivers are very similar. Past changes occur due to the life cycle of the earths crust, ocean and plants and major astronomical events. Much of the public discussion is filled with influential and philosophical but not truly scientific and exacting terminology and concepts. The distinction is not a cause for the concepts to be false but rather merely reflect the manner we approach such topics on a large scale conversation and such is well observed in social cognitive theory. I appreciate your questioning but would encourage you to find the answers to your questions rather than post them to persuade people toward falsified information that doesn't reflect what's observed in research and experiments.

@grindupBaker 2 ай бұрын

"What happened all the previous ties it thawed?" There's records of that. 126,000 years ago 987 million trillion dollars of infrastructure was ruined by salt water and the sewers backed up, so life got real ugly for the 2 billion humans in oceanfront Condos 126,000 years ago is what happened. It's all there in the Ancient Scripts, copies of the bills from Og's & Nog's Flood Restorations Inc., all in the Ancient Archives.

@saintallnights7239 2 ай бұрын

@@grindupBaker Was there also a rush on toilet rolls then too? Lol.

@akuma2124 2 ай бұрын

7:28 - "what we can do, is make more informed decisions; and make sure we build communities that are resilliant to change thats going to occur." I'll be honest, I agreed with the first part of this line, but then the second part of the line had me divided. The pessimistic view is, why are we planning for failure? the informed decision is to act now to prevent it from getting worse. The realist view tells me, that this isnt something we're going to get past and need to adapt as per what was said. I'd rather turn my pessimisitic view in an optimistic one than go with the latter. We could do both at once, so it's a missed opportunity in the video to not call it out, if the context of the video itself wasn't enough to tell you that anyway.