Europe's Ariane-6 rocket launches | BBC News

Europe's big new rocket, Ariane-6, has made its inaugural flight.
The vehicle will launch out of French Guiana on a demonstration mission to put a clutch of satellites in orbit.
Developed at a cost of €4bn (£3.4bn), Ariane-6 is intended to be a workhorse rocket that gives European governments and companies access to space independently from the rest of the world.
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[@RealUlrichLeland]

The European space agency is separate from the European Union, so the UK is still involved in this project, although France is the most involved

[@tobias41641]

To put this more in perspective, Germany and France provide around half of ESAs total budget, the other 20 members the other ~half. ESA could be much bigger.

[@KentRoads]

UK started it's own space agency in 2015...

[@lv3184]

This is not true. The UK is indeed a member of ESA, but it isn’t a member of the Ariane 6 program. The Ariane 6 program members are Austria, Belgium, Czechia, France, Germany, Ireland, Italy, Netherlands, Norway, Romania, Spain, Sweden and Switzerland.

[@TheThOdOr1s]

That’s not entirely correct. ESA is administratively separate from the EU but the EU is a major customer of ESA, as such, the UK was excluded from many EU-ESA programs due to Brexit. Most importantly Galileo and EGNOS.

[@devilsolution9781]

@@KentRoads any idea what happened to the british ones that were in russia 2020?

[@stubronstein9932]

There's a heavy version of this, the Ariane Grande.

[@MickaelEngel]

Haha

[@jamie4574]

😂😂😂😂 ❤

[@carlharding5311]

😂😂😂 Can’t believe I didn’t spot this! Hilarious!!

[@JohnBl7167]

Flat earthers be like, it's CGI

[@realtsarbomba]

Not forgetting that's recorded with a _"fisheye lens..."_

[@JohnBl7167]

@@realtsarbomba I thought that old chestnut was retired in the 70s

[@realtsarbomba]

@@JohnBl7167 For everything that's good and decent on this globe...flerfs should've let it retire in peace.

[@antoniopiscopo6258]

It's nothing but garbage they show on screens, how people actually buy the fakery is mind blowing, this is how you know we live in a dumb world, and the ones behind the fakery know the people are dumb, this is why they can get away with the fakery

[@costAmore]

Не пробил потолок. Рухнул хламом одиозным на задранные в "стену плача" головы.

[@josefelixaranda9002]

Ariane 6 is going to be a significant progress in comunications and science .Congratulations to the European Space Agency.

[@DR3ADER1]

And with very decent timing, considering Japan's recent launch earlier this Summer. And China's failed private launch before that.

[@johnsmith-yk6yf]

Will it bring the stranded Americans back home?

[@IHATEGOOGLESOMUCHFUCK]

It failed

[@pplesandoranges]

@@DR3ADER1 With any luck, one day ESA could catch up to China with human spaceflight!

[@TaurusSpace]

@@johnsmith-yk6yfThey aren’t stranded

[@Blue0cean]

Congrats European Ariane-6 Program !!

[@Joker-yw9hl]

Congratulations ESA 🇪🇺 🚀

[@tokeny1pz341]

Congratulations 🚀

[@taylorrichardson850]

Bravo, la France ,French spécial site in French Guyana, well done!!!!

[@costAmore]

#Guyana, #Genua 😭

[@pratapterang7788]

Congratulations European Space Agency 🎉

[@frankhoffman3566]

American here. I'm happy to see democracies doing good things in space technology. The Ariane 5 was a great, reliable platform. Hoping for the same for this new rocket. It looks like a good start.

[@devamjani8041]

Lots of bots in the comments

[@craigmackay4909]

Space x fan boi

[@thymalo]

Forever and always

[@MrKentaroMotoPI]

They are well paid.

[@Callimo]

Flat earthers crying and throwing up in the hallway right now 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Congrats to all the physicists that made this launch happen! Noice :D

[@factsoverfear9771]

You really think that 1 minute mark image is real ? lol 💡

[@ijumpjudyy]

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[@porecemusnox8805]

@@factsoverfear9771 You don't?

[@originalmin]

​@@factsoverfear9771 ironic username considering your own paranoia and distrust, dare I say fear, has led you to believe that incredible engineering accomplishments are fiction.

[@akselmani]

@@factsoverfear9771 You really are cooked, ain't ya? We've already seen similar footage like 100+ times with SpaceX... but I guess you are one of the people that don't believe rockets can land and think the spaceX ones are "pencils" with engines strapped on them made in CG. Yikes.

[@Greenpoloboy3]

Props to the brave cameraman recording from the rocker

[@jonpon-r6w]

You know camera can be remotely operated and that electromagnetic signals such as image data can be sent transmitted and received from very long distances? That's why there was a delay in the video signal.

[@mynameisschezuan]

⁠@@jonpon-r6w No. There was several guys strapped to the rocket with handcams.. it’s pretty obvious. Stop talking about this woo doo electromagnetic signals.

[@InbredJed82060]

​@@jonpon-r6wgo back to your cave troll.

[@Mythteller]

Now it's time for ESA manned orbital mission😉

[@cicada9471]

Ariane 6-Making old technology new again😂😂😂

[@realEpicGold]

Still, ESA didn't have their own rocket, was dependent on others, and it's able to deliver bigger payloads than the Falcon 9. And I know, it's not reusable, but still, it's a good option.

[@fabrb26]

@@realEpicGold I don't know if having a costly car equipped with an old carbureted engine for the work could be called a good option, a temporary solution maybe. But hey ESA was one of many to loudly told to anybody asking that reusability in rocket industry was science fiction and keep doing it the old way, the safe way. So there is that to assume hoping they got enough client throughout Ariane 6 journey to develop their next vehicle.

[@jonnsonsam]

Did this produce more, or less, co2 than BG's private jet?

[@MANBEARPIG248]

it uses liquid hydrogen and oxygen as fuel so no co2

[@protonjinx]

@@MANBEARPIG248 water vapor is a more potent greenhouse gas than co2, but it should quickly turn into ice crystals/rain

[@timeydoesstuff]

​@@MANBEARPIG248 but it also does have those SRB engines which aren't great... But rockets have a incredibly small impact on climate change compared to others

[@DaNuker]

@@protonjinx idiotic comment.

[@Nick_Tag]

@@DaNuker funny for someone to comment, but why you think idiotic?

[@swayp5715]

Bravo !!

[@JoshuaFrankee]

Congratulations 🎉

[@a-k65beatz]

fantastisch

[@OmnoWombo]

Love the overlay on top of the rocket! Professionals at work 👍

[@starmanxvi]

While it is a shame that they aren't even pursuing at least Vulcan-Centaur style reuse where just the engines get recovered, this is still an amazing achievement for European space exploration!

[@Steven-vo4ee]

Reuse is for ‘Ariane Next’

[@carlharding5311]

Costly refurbishment at best, reuse is a myth. The Russians have the least changed, most reliable launch system in history and not an iota is ‘reused’. That sobbing you hear in the background is the Musk fanbois realising he duped them.

[@Yautah]

They said a long time ago that it wasn't cost effective to do it. For example you must keep some carburant for they deceleration, but its the most efficient carburant you have because the rocket is really light at that moment. So you cannot go as high as you would with non reusable. Thats why they didnt use SpaceX for the jwst for example, their reusable have a hard time getting in high orbit.

[@Steven-vo4ee]

Congrats ESA, Arianespace, Airbus and Safran!

[@sdwone]

Gawd dammit BBC!!! With the way this world is going... For a moment there, I thought this was an ICBM!!! 🙄 Anyway... Great News for our European Space Programme... I just hope there will be a Europe left in the foreseeable future... From which to launch further missions!!!

[@clowis7764]

arianespace (ariane 6 manufacturer) also make the french M51 ICBM so you were half right !

[@platoonsergeanttracemiller]

Any rocket, is an ICBM. And you know they, areeee,,,worried. They looking to develope their and to know what does work. capabilities. Europe is going to look to be independent,of even the dill weed Americans. They have a Hegemony, rising up in front of them.

[@boris8787]

Imagine if it landed in the middle of my town.

[@franckozzy7979]

They don't mention that Ariane 6 is equipped with engines that can be switched off and on during the mission, so that it can place satellites at different orbits. That is a major feature.

[@nikhilanandhegde4781]

ISRO is already doing this at a smaller level . They do not have giant rockets

[@bobbyjohnsonsebastian206]

heard it over a podcast. Honestly thought they named it "Aryan"

[@ericaandshane]

How was the landing?

[@akyhne]

They were launching into space, not an earth to earth travel. Satellites need to be in space to work.

[@Fogmeister]

@@akyhneyep, and the way to get into space nowadays is on top of a launch vehicle that lands back on earth ready to be reused. Except for Ariane 6. 😂

[@akyhne]

@@Fogmeister No need to laugh. One Ariane 6 launch is only a bit more expensive, than a Falcon 9 launch. So, on paper, it doesn't make much sense.

[@whatelse1222]

Lots of critical comments about the language and technology from jealous couch potatoes.

[@jasonthewatchmansson8873]

Does anyone remember when the commentary on a launch would focus on the launch vehicle, the stages of the launch, and the incoming telemetry? Instead, we have "OMG! We're on the verge of tears! Oh, what a moment! Ooooh!"

[@jumbo4billion]

You can find that on other channels. This is the fun version for those with a casual interest

[@benzene_sandwich]

It'd good for people who arent interested in the telemetry. I am happy with this kind of commentary if it gives more attention to spaceflight, even if I personally would prefer a telemetry readout.

[@Yasharvl]

Congratulations to ESA and to the crew of Ariane 6 programme!

[@pk90111]

Elon musk be like: how do you not make it blow up 😢

[@HuzaifaAli-mm2df]

The content is a cut above the rest. Keep setting the bar high!

[@RobertRomeoKelebalekgosi]

Glitch at 2.00 minute mark on the video.Wierd

[@jonpon-r6w]

Fully expected of camera kms out from sea level. Both the signal delay and the vibrations can attribute to that glitch

[@MickaelEngel]

do you have a theory as why there was a glitch there?

[@antoniopiscopo6258]

The glitch is part of the fakery, unfortunately the people of this very flat plane, don't have eyes to see, and no brain to understand, or should I say common sense, it's easier to fool people, than to convince they have been fooled, famous quote by a famous freemason, freemasonry runs this earth with LIES

[@luihinwai1]

New Europe is on par with US, Russia and China

[@justcallmebrian793]

Sorry to say it is not on par with United States

[@tedcrilly46]

@@justcallmebrian793 why not.

[@prilep5]

Congrats but with out reusability it’s another twentieth century rocket

[@ragnoxis05]

Congratulations!!!🎉🎉🎉

[@ocker2000]

Ariane 6 project was given the green light before SpaceX managed to perfect the re-use of the first stage Falcon 9. ESA was dismissive as were the other legacy American launch providers. Now ESA is trying to modify the Ariane 6 platform to have a second stage that can be re-used. Meanwhile they are preparing a test for a re-usable rocket platform similar to Falcon 9.

[@mrdenson3101]

Those two women sound like they have never seen a rocket before

[@jaakkokorhonen]

I didn't know Britain didn't exit also ESA.

[@martinotieno9476]

Where is it gonna dock? ISS?

[@xdhwowbob]

It failed. It didn’t reached the target orbit…

[@valbytaxa95]

When is the upgraded solid booster gonna be ready? They are called P160C right?

[@johnappleseed6926]

europe knows how to launch rockets?

[@pepe-zw4de]

2024 and still no reusable rocket? laughs in SpaceX

[@PripurnanandaGiri-dl5gf]

CONGRATULATIONS.

[@user-tc3xs5oi5j]

Congrats from China!

[@BugsbunnyEh]

why are those 2 woman saying things that we can see.

[@realtsarbomba]

Flerfers will say that it's all GCI, fisheye lens or something equally asinine...

[@AliHSyed]

Is it reusable?

[@borisbakardzhiev1673]

no but it's still a big improvement compared to 5

[@bennie1138000]

No It will also not survive the upcoming price war between Falcon 9 and New Glenn. €400 million annual subsidies will increase to €1 billion guaranteed.

[@akyhne]

There's no need for reusability, unless it makes economic sense. But it's their plan to go more reusability, if the market is there.

[@banksgman6860]

Ffs… I missed it.

[@jamescatlin2221]

Why is the feed so bad? Camera flicking back and forth, freezing, replaying the previous 10 seconds…. The can launch a rocket but struggle to produce a decent live feed

[@kael13]

I think we're spoiled a bit by SpaceX launches, theyre on another level.

[@MickaelEngel]

@@kael13 sure , spacex cameras never freeze

[@antoniopiscopo6258]

Because it's all fake

[@thepipedpiper]

The Federation begins 🌠 Live Long and Prosper🖖

[@THELIGHTCHILD101]

it's a big lie nothing can surpass the Firmament 😂

[@antoniopiscopo6258]

That is correct, there is a top cover, Dome over us all, people don't have a clue of this earth we live in

[@user-pd5hl9di2q]

Russia as super power of the planet is watching too

[@milosphotos]

Off topic, but 2:02 - "Russian court issues arrest warrant for Alexei Navalny's wife." That's disheveling to say the least.

[@jhugill85]

Without booster recovery this is comparable to the ESA celebrating switching the Nokia 3210 on…while SpaceX has using the iPhone 15 for years 😂

[@clowis7764]

*** meanwhile : spaceX exploding his 15th try of starship ***

[@user-vv6bg7fc3e]

I wish our Government was still dedicated to space like it was in the 60"s we could already be on Mars probably if NASA still had the funding it used to get during the Kennedy years.

[@BePositive1984]

300 tons of fuel in two mins, WOW

[@clowis7764]

the fuel is hydrogen + oxygen wich make water

[@kevincapelotti5163]

Fast forward to about 2 mins. Clearly in space right? Accodring to recent updates there is about almost 10k satellites in space. Yet. Every one who has a video to space. You never see one satellite

[@edkrzywdzinski9121]

You simply have to be joking or trolling.... no one can be that dense.

[@yves2075]

... But is it re-usable? Coming from the EEC that lectures the world on sustainability.

[@vegman9415]

That’s cool

[@ussassu]

not even reusable boosters?

[@benkonrady4595]

When do they land the boosters or core?

[@Fogmeister]

😂

[@kristinaF54]

It's crazy how long it took them to develop Ariane 6 from Ariane 5 (and it's still not reusable!), and there's SpaceX making upgrades practically every year. The difference between a government-run agency and private/commercially run company is night and day.

[@pplesandoranges]

There is indeed a difference when a private company wastes public funding without accountability, and a government agency has to report each penny spent.

[@benzene_sandwich]

@@pplesandorangesAnd yet, for all that wasted money SpaceX is a massively profitable company. The real sucess of SpaceX is not it's rockets, but it's buisness ideology.

[@francinesicard464]

@@benzene_sandwich Massive profits yes, but how much of it will fall back into the public coffers? We know where business ideology is leading us. The plus point, Europe's independence to launch its own satellites and that is priceless.

[@realtsarbomba]

​@@benzene_sandwichSpaceX is leeching off the taxpayers money and 55 million isn't what I'd call massive profit and made 1.5 billion net loss for two years before that..

[@OnlyGrafting]

​@francinesicard464 Europe as its launched from a french colony in South America. We ignoring the rocket launch sites in the UK and goggling at the French instead like brother the private companies have had this for decades.

[@Melissa-vk8wo]

Ok thanks for all the world

[@leonleon2276]

What’s going on? Are we under attack ?

[@Indizewy]

Grats

[@moRaaOTAKU]

French empire using their colony

[@Deucatryon]

It's a French département 😂

[@franciscouderq1100]

You don’t miss any opportunity to show off your ignorance and brain disfunction this making a fool of yourself right here.

[@Dimo4ka.]

This Arian is lucky because the Russians wanted to shoot it down but can't. The Russians thought that it was the Ukrainian ballistic missile. 😂

[@googleaccountuser3116]

As long as it helps the war effort, I guess. 🤷‍♂️

[@user-vf2mi7sz5f]

technology has not moved on in this field since the 60s still using rockets

[@MrKentaroMotoPI]

Ariane 6 is 1970's technology. No launch system in operation or development is more modern, unfortunately.

[@Wildlifewatcher69]

Cough cough *spacex vtol*

[@SOVIET-KGB-CCCP]

No match for the Russian ICBMs

[@harmoney-tk5wd]

Do ICBMs carry payload to orbit?

[@SOVIET-KGB-CCCP]

@@harmoney-tk5wd The latest one does as their was a documentary on Russian TV

[@trident6547]

@@SOVIET-KGB-CCCP Documentary on Russian TV. Yeah that must be true because it was on Russian TV who always tells the truth.

[@PeterDay81]

Not one for the green party.🤣

[@RealWatch1]

big ups ESA

[@thepepper191]

Spaaaaaaace

[@Love-HumanLife]

CNN,BBC and FOX show that only Israeli people have emotion, happiness and sorrow . Not Gaza's children 😢😢😢😢😢😢 it is not accepted from CNN,BBC and FOX that are a news media. 😊😊😊

[@drmorcoch9338]

we got elon musk. he's a genius. there's also this guy jeff bezos... two americans that can do a whole lot more than your governments can. america rules!

[@yubetou52]

Congrats on your non-reusable rocket! its already outdated!

[@Steven-vo4ee]

🙄🥱

[@yubetou52]

@@Steven-vo4ee 🤷‍♂Truth. Falcon heavy is already available for use and it is cheaper, can launch more cargo to space and is reusable.

[@akyhne]

Not outdated. And a Falcon Heavy costs many times the m launchof an Ariane 6 launch. And the Ariane can take a much bigger load than any Falcon.

[@matt-lo8ut]

Ariane can take a bigger payload and is much cheaper than the equivalent rocket (Falcon heavy). Get your facts right before talking shit.

[@yubetou52]

​@@matt-lo8ut this 2 booster rocket can take 9920lbs to geostationary orbit falcon heavy can take 18,300. cost to launch ariane6 is $4.70/kg cost to launch falcon heavy is $1.6/kg

[@MaheshWalatara]

Compared to the Falcon Heavy this is nothing 😂

[@MrKentaroMotoPI]

Compated to SpacePig: no soot, much less CO2, no wasted helium.

[@apb2081]

And the uk watching with envy. Brexit fiasco 😂😂😂

[@IMBlakeley]

ESA ≠ EU ergo the UK remains a member and contributes somewhere around £2 billion a year.

[@grant0519]

But did you land the Boosters?

[@sirensynapse5603]

No but they didn't sell people fake solar panels either.

[@jaltyx5093]

No but it still cost less than Space X rockets

[@akyhne]

It doesn't cost less and SpaceX could probably lower their prices, but then they couldn't indirectly fund Starlink via SpaceX customers.

[@jemezname2259]

@@jaltyx5093 Not even close to costing less than Falcon 9. And SpaceX is rapidly developing Starship which is supposed to be much cheaper.

[@mytorment]

So long, farewell, Auf Wiedersehen Francis 🤣😂🤣🇨🇭🤣😂🤣😂🇨🇭😅😂😋🤧✌️☮️🫒💀

[@marcusnoble132]

Did they recuperate the boosters?

[@Nanny-Camilla]

Jabba Jabba U Akbar

[@RaySqw785]

well Done CNES, and French industries to lead european sovereign policy from the US poodle Union

[@devilsolution9781]

what happened to the british ones that were in russia in 2020????

[@DefinitelyWave]

Russia used them to send up satellites for Iran.

[@ulyssesdamon3408]

My god the commentary needs work..... "We go now to the launch of a "big rocket" "The buildings are shaking now... and... we're looking at live feed of the rocket here" "Oh, we are looking down?" "yeah, we're looking down the rocket"... "Look at this, how they (the boosters) fall off, amazing"...... Its just decribing whats on screen, utterly boring, no hype. Wheres the people screaming at the success, wheres the talk about the unique parts of this launch set up, rather than ablative part stuff which is literally the most common stuff in space tech. ZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzz Not holding my breath that the ESA is going to do anything in rocket manufacturing with how well the Falcon 9/Heavy performs and how much more showmanship SpaceX does with their launches...

[@Spiritt_Daphiti]

If at least in the UK Space Agency allow hobby rockets to be used by professionals or newbies in safe place ofc will bring on business enormous impact on education and wealth . Ehh aye a lot other can be involved....if they know the science involved.

[@kreb7]

Well done ESA

[@jonathangrozos2532]

CNES, in fact

[@factsoverfear9771]

😂😂😂😂

[@captainbuggernut9565]

Yesterdays idea. None of it is reusable. Strangely like the EU.

[@Steven-vo4ee]

Red herring claptrap.

[@user-zv2db4yn6l]

Please report the wrongdoings of the Japanese Ministry of Finance.

[@anonymcomm9653]

Why couldn't they launch it from France or some where in Europe? I understand French Guiana technically belongs to France but if their goal is for it "to be a workhorse rocket that gives European governments and companies access to space independently from the rest of the world." Wouldn't it make more sense for it to be in Europe and not South America?

[@jonpon-r6w]

There's infrastructure there already, good weather conditions, somewhat desolate. Wouldn't really provide any economic benefit building a platform closer to Europe. Would it in fact incur high costs.

[@holy3979]

A couple reasons, proximity to the equator and no need to risk flying a rocket over heavily populated land masses.

[@thespacedingoking]

You'll notice that most launch sites are situated closer to the equator rather than further away. This is because of the physics of getting a launch into orbit. When you launch closer to the poles, most of your available orbits become more and more like polar orbits, stuck orbiting over the poles. From close to the equator, more orbital trajectories are possible, including geostationary ones. If you launch a rocket from the poles, no matter which direction you send that rocket, it will be travelling due North/south. It will cross the other pole and come back again. You have no options. You can't turn it 90 mid orbit, because that just costs too much fuel, more than the rocket can even carry. In addition, due to the Earth's rotation, it bulges slightly at the equator. For most people, this is irrelevant, it doesn't really change how we operate. However, when it comes to launching rockets, this has a noticeable impact in minimising as much as possible the amount of gravity that the rocket has to overcome to escape the Earth's atmosphere and reach orbit. This is due to the fact that the force of gravity you feel decreases as you move away from the object creating that gravity you are feeling.

[@Just_another_Euro_dude]

I believe there's also new such facility in Sweden. Built only like couple of years ago, by the EU, for the EU needs. Plus French Guyana is called FRENCH for A REASON, just like EU could use any part of the huge Greenland, if Denmark agreed with it. As it's basically owned by Denmark, an EU member.

[@PamelaCorreia-qi4kc]

This is m'y country french Cayenne i am so proud of m'y country

[@rickb.4168]

My commiserations to the team on the Ariane 6 program. It failed to explode. You need to get some advice from Elon, on how to fly rockets.

[@Bored-of-it-all]

All window dressing..timed for Nato meeting..

[@Steven-vo4ee]

🙄🥱

[@jonpon-r6w]

A space rocket for space exploration and NATO. Give us the trail from A to B please

[@IMBlakeley]

Just WTF has a civilain satellite launch vehicle got to do with NATO other than that occasionally they will be paid to launch military satellites?

[@tedcrilly46]

@@jonpon-r6w A. -> Alex Jones. -> B.

[@lfeb]

Good, space shouldn't be just for the US, China and Russia

[@geraldthomas8948]

The women in the studio are getting very excited with this rocket ! No it's not a Dildo.

[@cybernit3]

Are they transporting nuclear warheads?

[@Steven-vo4ee]

No 🙄

[@ad_astra468]

Satellites

[@jonpon-r6w]

They're transporting nothing. Just testing their new rocket. In the future they will transport satellites and other cargo for the space station and for future missions.

[@TGH1988]

Where dey going doe?

[@ZhiweiLv-ws8kf]

它兴高采烈地一边自拍一边飞出地球的家门口，在家门口附近摄摄影录录像，清闲的时候会做做一些实验然后然后向在地球的家长们提交作业。

[@11ash1]

SpaceX has been doing what they all so proud of for years

[@Steven-vo4ee]

Fanboyism is tiresome.

[@edc1569]

Imagine a state the size of Europe wanting its own launch vehicle, how odd

[@bimblealong]

What, spending taxpayers money!

[@matt-lo8ut]

Actually ESA have been launching rockets since before Space X was even an idea...

[@akyhne]

Uhmm, just the Ariane 5 alone has launched since the mid 1990s. Way before Elon though he was clever. And the Ariane family dates baxk to right after Elon was a mistake.