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@alicec.6195
@alicec.6195 Күн бұрын
"'Shame must change sides."
@roxannee8316
@roxannee8316 17 сағат бұрын
Yes ❤ the choices to shine a light on this situation empower that reality 100%
@nnedwards3260
@nnedwards3260 12 сағат бұрын
@RogerMellie-yk3gw
@RogerMellie-yk3gw 12 сағат бұрын
@@alicec.6195 there is no shaming. France isn't Nigeria. Nobody apportions shame to victims of sexual abuse
@daughterofbob-d5r
@daughterofbob-d5r 7 сағат бұрын
@@RogerMellie-yk3gw Yeah, I’m certain that you speak for all of the people who have been victims of this kind of violent assault. Don’t be so arrogant to think you can know what any victimized person feels. You cannot.
@VictoriaLehman-e1h
@VictoriaLehman-e1h 6 сағат бұрын
Hope this was at least partly cathartic and part of her healing. Now sue them all! 😢
@bcent5758
@bcent5758 Күн бұрын
Seriously what is wrong with these men? The idea that there were so many men who would do this is frightening.
@chihirostargazer6573
@chihirostargazer6573 Күн бұрын
So many men are absolutely depraved.
@beckee6282
@beckee6282 Күн бұрын
They’re men. That’s what’s wrong with them. Too many bad men out there and the good ones don’t do anything about it. Therefore, are there even any good men?
@marleyhill34
@marleyhill34 Күн бұрын
I would say 90% of men buy into these types of violent and abusive fantasies of using women for sexual gratification.
@forestfairy4828
@forestfairy4828 Күн бұрын
These men lack love. There is something broken and dark inside them.
@fembot521
@fembot521 23 сағат бұрын
Men are disgusting. They see women as nothing more than objects and it’s getting worse with the plethora of porn.
@Jm-Gonz
@Jm-Gonz 2 күн бұрын
She has to be one of the emotionally strongest women in France
@Erinba
@Erinba Күн бұрын
In the world ❤
@adonaiyah2196
@adonaiyah2196 Күн бұрын
I agree 100 percent
@whatever4566
@whatever4566 18 сағат бұрын
*Bravest people
@drwoo6090
@drwoo6090 12 сағат бұрын
That’s what she lets you see!
@lisab9541
@lisab9541 2 сағат бұрын
Anywhere imo.
@ShakesSphere
@ShakesSphere 2 күн бұрын
She's incredibly brave. And may the support of other women everywhere help her to heal, and replace the feelings of lost dignity with an even stronger sense thereof
@vxrdrummer
@vxrdrummer 2 күн бұрын
The support from other men as well will be incredibly important to show her that the men that did this are not representative of the other 99.999999999999999% of men in the world.
@roselipton2113
@roselipton2113 2 күн бұрын
​@@vxrdrummerNope..
@ShakesSphere
@ShakesSphere 2 күн бұрын
@vxrdrummer None more than her lawyer!
@RogerMellie-yk3gw
@RogerMellie-yk3gw Күн бұрын
She's not brave, just really unfortunate.
@ShakesSphere
@ShakesSphere Күн бұрын
@RogerMellie-yk3gw NO, Roger...perhaps you cannot imagine what she has had to overcome, to be able to allow for her story to become public. Yes, she is VERY brave indeed to face these guys down and be that uncomfortable center of attention, in such an utterly humiliating and heartbreaking case. ..Can you not imagine how heartbreaking it is to find that you were so horribly duped by the husband you trusted? She's very brave.
@dreamofwhitehorses2259
@dreamofwhitehorses2259 Күн бұрын
"How ordinary men could find themselves in this position" - these men didn't just stumble into raping this poor woman. Describing their actions in the passive state takes away all responsibility for their actions and places these rapists in the victim position. How's about "how ordinary men could do such things"? It seems like a minor point, but language is extremely powerful.
@livinginthenow
@livinginthenow Күн бұрын
I had a similar reaction to that phrasing, but I think two things are important to remember. 1. English is not his native language (although he does speak it quite well), and the subtleties of using the passive tense may not translate for him. And, 2. He did make a point about them not being "ordinary" men, but instead being men who chose to rape a woman (who is elderly, unconscious, and doing so while the act is being filmed). He made it clear that each of these men CHOSE to commit these horrific acts. And for that clarification, I'm going to give him a pass on the passive phrasing.
@Xiroi87
@Xiroi87 Күн бұрын
He's not a native English speaker, his choice of words may have not been the best, but its easy to understand what he meant: how could supposedly ordinary men do what they did? How could they commit such atrocities?
@jenmu7870
@jenmu7870 Күн бұрын
@@dreamofwhitehorses2259 yes. they chose (!) to do it.
@jenmu7870
@jenmu7870 Күн бұрын
@@dreamofwhitehorses2259 they were determined. 🤢
@lu59999
@lu59999 Күн бұрын
@@Xiroi87 that would have been a fair point if he didn't say, "what this trial is trying to achieve is to find out how ordinary men-" that's not the objective of the trial, the objective of the trial is to find out how people could do this to a woman
@itsjuanjuan1
@itsjuanjuan1 14 сағат бұрын
WHY ARE THOSE MEN STILL WALKING FREELY?????
@DipanwitaDas9
@DipanwitaDas9 9 сағат бұрын
Because it's rapists' world. See around all rapists are now in position of power
@SlashHarkenUltra
@SlashHarkenUltra 8 сағат бұрын
@@itsjuanjuan1 it's called a trial ...
@Smooshes786
@Smooshes786 8 сағат бұрын
@@SlashHarkenUltratyped like someone who truly doesn’t get it. The earth is a very rape filled place. The source of the action is the issue. “Trials” are truly useless in the end.
@maki9396
@maki9396 7 сағат бұрын
They always do.
@Smooshes786
@Smooshes786 7 сағат бұрын
@@SlashHarkenUltra nah- this world is full of sexual ass-aulters. Look at the religious - they took over that way in some examples like Christians.
@briannao9251
@briannao9251 2 күн бұрын
Gisele Pelicot should be the Time Magazine Person of The Year!!
@simonscowled9925
@simonscowled9925 Күн бұрын
Time will choose some American.....she wasn't even in top 10 names
@RogerMellie-yk3gw
@RogerMellie-yk3gw Күн бұрын
Why, because something dreadful happened to her? Pity isn't a reason to make someone person of the year.
@elsa-cm1rh
@elsa-cm1rh Күн бұрын
@@RogerMellie-yk3gw Obviously not because something terrible happened to her, but because of what she made of a terrible situation! Is that so hard to see and understand??
@susanplatt5331
@susanplatt5331 Күн бұрын
Roger. Shut up and go back down to your mother's basement.
@createone100
@createone100 Күн бұрын
Totally agree!
@honeyv540
@honeyv540 Күн бұрын
Not all men (but a lot of men). The fact that one of the men was her neighbor who she knew too. I hope that men will understand why women are cautious about men and around men. It's horrifying and saddening.
@MC-cz5qd
@MC-cz5qd Күн бұрын
If men don’t understand that or are offended by it, then they need a f*cking wake-up call.
@beckee6282
@beckee6282 Күн бұрын
Not all men but yet not a single man who refused the husband’s offer reported him. It’s all men until men actually start standing up to men who do these types of evil crimes
@marleyhill34
@marleyhill34 Күн бұрын
90% of men have these dark fantasies where consent is an afterthought.
@sarahq10
@sarahq10 19 сағат бұрын
Listen to the song “Not All Men” - Morgan St. Jean
@SlashHarkenUltra
@SlashHarkenUltra 18 сағат бұрын
@@honeyv540 only French men do this
@NickanM
@NickanM Күн бұрын
Madame Pelicot has the soul of a warrior. *_RESPECT._*
@dianeandries1331
@dianeandries1331 11 сағат бұрын
She should use her own name for God 's sake!!
@eveivyprunette655
@eveivyprunette655 8 сағат бұрын
@@dianeandries1331 I agree, but after 50 years of marriage, after this trial, she NEEDS TIME to re-build herself and erase this infamous family name. Just my guess. Greetings from France.
@dianeandries1331
@dianeandries1331 8 сағат бұрын
@eveivyprunette655 bonjour et merci. C'est vrai. Superbe qu'elle rends tout cela public. Bonjour de la Belgique.
@ChalNjurshEp
@ChalNjurshEp 5 сағат бұрын
@@eveivyprunette655wow! What kind of coverage is this getting in France? I wish I could see. I hope this makes all the grapists in France very very afraid!!!
@veroniquebiver1851
@veroniquebiver1851 Күн бұрын
keeping it secret, bringing it to court behind closed doors ('huis clos') is in favour of perpetrators. This case and Mrs Pelicot's choices are groundbreaking
@Red-pv7kx
@Red-pv7kx Күн бұрын
For sure
@RogerMellie-yk3gw
@RogerMellie-yk3gw 12 сағат бұрын
@@veroniquebiver1851 it's not. Most people seek justice when they suffer a serious misdeed
@ChalNjurshEp
@ChalNjurshEp 5 сағат бұрын
@@RogerMellie-yk3gwnot in the cases of spousal grape……..
@cooldebt
@cooldebt 4 сағат бұрын
@@RogerMellie-yk3gw Not disclosing the victim's identity only ensures that perpretrators are protected. In Tasmania, one woman fought to be able to identify herself to tell her story. Most criminals do not want their dirty secrets out in the open. The threat of the perpetrators being found and out exposed is greater when the woman can indentify herself publicly if she wants to.
@aran7teen
@aran7teen 2 күн бұрын
I don’t pay any attention to things like woman of the year awards, noble prizes etc, but if this lady doesn’t win a whole bunch of these awards … not from a point of pity, but out of pride of what she’s stood up against at extreme cost to herself. Incredible lady.
@boutek
@boutek 2 күн бұрын
What exactly should she get a Nobel prize for?
@Lyddiebits
@Lyddiebits 2 күн бұрын
​@boutek out of pride of what she's endured, as the comment states. You may disagree, that is only your opinion.
@susanplatt5331
@susanplatt5331 Күн бұрын
Boutek. For exposing the evil of men, without shame that belongs to them, not her. Shut up and go back to your mother's basement.
@boutek
@boutek Күн бұрын
@Lyddiebits It's not about agreeing or disagreeing. There's just not such a category. It's not what Nobel prizes are about. I'm sure there're some she should totally get. She is incredibly brave, but that has nothing to do with Nobel prizes.
@latyhamid8324
@latyhamid8324 Күн бұрын
For fighting for victims rights.
@jenmu7870
@jenmu7870 2 күн бұрын
All the best for Mrs Pelicot, one of the bravest women in the world! 💪🏾💪🏻💪🏽
@nuramamongkhon
@nuramamongkhon 4 сағат бұрын
🫶❤️✌️✌️✌️👩🏼
@SimonDover
@SimonDover Күн бұрын
This woman is a groundbreaking hero. She is taking the stigma away from rape. She is showing the world she has nothing to be ashamed of. Everyone says it, she shows it. Everyone is left in no doubt as to who should be ashamed, and it's certainly not her. People will remember this.
@RogerMellie-yk3gw
@RogerMellie-yk3gw Күн бұрын
She isn't. There is no stigma around it. Everyone knows it's awful. She's just very unfortunate. Nobody ever said she or any victim should be ashamed.
@Frostjotnar
@Frostjotnar Күн бұрын
@@RogerMellie-yk3gwThere’s definitely stigma around it. Many of us who’ve experienced it have had to deal with others telling us what we ‘should have done’ so there’s the added shame to the mix.
@susanplatt5331
@susanplatt5331 Күн бұрын
Roger, go away with your ignorance 🙄
@kmcalary
@kmcalary Күн бұрын
@@RogerMellie-yk3gw Why are you all over these comments attempting to minimize her? Are you one of the accused? Sad little man.
@RogerMellie-yk3gw
@RogerMellie-yk3gw Күн бұрын
@kmcalary you're the one trying to minimise her, you pathetic sexist. You clearly think she's to blame. Others of us actually have a moral compass.
@anaborella1972
@anaborella1972 Күн бұрын
Stop with this "allegedly" nonsense! The man confessed and there's films of him raping and others raping her. It's not alleged! It's proved and acknowledged by the guilty monster.
@lukehardisty
@lukehardisty Күн бұрын
its a legal thing. Until the court case has been finished no publications are allowed to say guilty definitively.
@TheDulcifer
@TheDulcifer Күн бұрын
If they do not use the term "alleged", then the defense could use that against the prosecution. It could be described as jury tampering, (tainting the jury pool) and/or bias for sure. Yes, it is frustrating , but all precautions must be taken so that no appearance of bias is displayed by the courts. The jury and/or judge MUST pronounce the perpetrator guilty before anyone else can officially say so.
@moniqueengleman873
@moniqueengleman873 Күн бұрын
👏👏👏
@haplessasshole9615
@haplessasshole9615 12 сағат бұрын
​@@TheDulcifer I know presumption of innocence is part of the Fifth Amendment of the US Constitution, but is it a legal principle in France? I would think so, given the way Mr. Babonneau phrases things.
@eva2110
@eva2110 8 сағат бұрын
​@@TheDulcifer are you sure it's even a jury trial? Jury trials are rather rare in France. The judicial system is very different from the one in the USA
@thevocalcrone
@thevocalcrone 17 сағат бұрын
In many ways as rape victims go - she's actually lucky in that her perpetrator filmed his horrendous activities. If she hadn't she would have been accused of being a liar and fight to have her story told and to have some respect extended to her. Many women cannot get justice. Good for her for pursuing it to the limits.
@Carlomango_768
@Carlomango_768 13 сағат бұрын
Even worse: if he hadn't, they probably wouldn't have found out, since the videos were the main piece of evidence that led to the entire trial. They were found during an unrelated investigation on her husband. Then of course there were texts and posts on a website... so probably it would have emerged anyway later on.
@ChalNjurshEp
@ChalNjurshEp 5 сағат бұрын
@@Carlomango_768her “husband” is il mostro…… 😮
@heartstrummer
@heartstrummer 2 күн бұрын
Bravo Gisele Pelicot. A profoundly disturbing and upsetting case. It is impossible to listen to her trauma without feeling rage.
@briantafila9480
@briantafila9480 13 сағат бұрын
This also happened in Korea and it was a group of husbands but oh well as long as it happens in the west it gets more coverage hey
@RogerMellie-yk3gw
@RogerMellie-yk3gw 12 сағат бұрын
@@heartstrummer yeah it is gross. Husband must have been a nutter.
@drwoo6090
@drwoo6090 12 сағат бұрын
@@briantafila9480Start a petition. Raise awareness. Let the world know that these things are happening to women. When we do nothing, nothing changes! ❤
@greenseadream
@greenseadream 9 сағат бұрын
@@briantafila9480this is western media talking about news from the west. So it’s not surprising.
@briantafila9480
@briantafila9480 9 сағат бұрын
@greenseadream yeh I get it it's funny though because they have things like bbc africa bbc Asia and they still don't report on injustices like the wife sharing and drugging incident
@lawrence-k7v
@lawrence-k7v 23 сағат бұрын
"How ordinary men could FIND themselves in this position". They wanted to be in this position.
@truegrit7697
@truegrit7697 8 сағат бұрын
Yeah - that wording suck in my craw, too.
@lightandsymbols1111
@lightandsymbols1111 Күн бұрын
I have so much respect for Gisele for going through the pain and trauma of the investigation and trial. She is a shining light for those who have experienced abuse. Showing the videos in court will humiliate the rapists. No more hiding.
@Alice_Walker
@Alice_Walker 2 күн бұрын
I am so inspired by the courage this lady has found and I hope that she feels the support of all of us who admire the way she has handled this horrible crime and trial 💜
@Ann-l7x
@Ann-l7x 20 сағат бұрын
Other than the actual rapes, she needs to work through the reality that she was with a man for 50 years and they raised kids together yet she never knew him. Your whole life becomes a lie and disillusionment.
@jamesjackson5020
@jamesjackson5020 10 сағат бұрын
can you explain how you have come to the conclusion that 'she never knew him'? I'm not understanding that
@Ann-l7x
@Ann-l7x 10 сағат бұрын
@jamesjackson5020 Her husband's sex perversion certainly did not start with the first time he drugged her, raped and videotaped her. It is almost easier to deal with this kind of trauma when it is done by complete strangers. It is on a whole different level when it is done in the 'safety' of your home by someone who swore to love and protect you 50 years ago. This woman literally woke up one day just to be told, by a police officer, that she was the victim of assault. A lot of emotions must have gone through her about the person she thought she knew, bit she didn't. She doesn't recollect the actual rapes, but she will always remember the betrayal by her husband and father of her children. I am not minimising the actual assaults. But the emotional trauma is sometimes worse than the physical.
@Neenuliini
@Neenuliini 9 сағат бұрын
@@jamesjackson5020 Probably him being so so so so horrible and abusive to her without her knowing until recently ?
@eva2110
@eva2110 8 сағат бұрын
​@@jamesjackson5020 well, it's exactly how she feels. She's saying herself that she was married to someone who made her believe he loved her and still was able to harm her in thos monstrous way.
@ahmaddeeni
@ahmaddeeni 12 сағат бұрын
She is holding up a mirror to society, there is no shame for her to feel. Those men should feel the shame, society at large should feel ashamed. It’s not exclusive to france either, there was a ex-met police officer convicted of the same crimes here. Barely covered in our media.
@nuramamongkhon
@nuramamongkhon 4 сағат бұрын
Yes that’s why all those men covered hide themselves on the queues. About what them did
@billycarroll9153
@billycarroll9153 Күн бұрын
She is the bravest woman in the world to confront these horrific crimes. I couldn’t watch more than 3 minutes of this video. It was making me physically sick. How she survived this is unimaginable to me.
@nightowl6260
@nightowl6260 Күн бұрын
She has amazing courage. Her courage will help women all over the world. What a hero.
@RogerMellie-yk3gw
@RogerMellie-yk3gw 12 сағат бұрын
@@nightowl6260 probably not in Nigeria or Brunei or places. It's probably deemed to be a man's prerogative in those places
@person35790
@person35790 Күн бұрын
Her greatest gift to the world is standing up and forcing others to watch what was done to her. Shifting the shame indeed, she should be canonized in the annals of history as one of the bravest and important figures of the world. Her legacy will be felt for generations.
@RogerMellie-yk3gw
@RogerMellie-yk3gw 12 сағат бұрын
@@person35790 You're right. But there is no shifting of shame. Nobody thinks abuse victims should be ashamed.
@JJ-qd9yl
@JJ-qd9yl 11 сағат бұрын
@@RogerMellie-yk3gw if you really believe what you wrote then lucky you!
@ChalNjurshEp
@ChalNjurshEp 5 сағат бұрын
Amen!!!!!!!❤
@vxrdrummer
@vxrdrummer 2 күн бұрын
It's incredible that anyone could do this, but what baffles me more is why you would ever even think of doing this in the first place.
@joseenoel8093
@joseenoel8093 2 күн бұрын
Finally losing their viginities perhaps? Rape culture perhaps? Men think sex is for their pleasure only and when a woman lets them know what we truly think that boner's a goner!
@tinasheshamhu2984
@tinasheshamhu2984 Күн бұрын
And also that he found people that were on board with this. Surely he had some people say no to his ’offer', did they not think to turn him in or at least warn the wife??
@susanplatt5331
@susanplatt5331 Күн бұрын
Because that's what men do.
@deerheart87
@deerheart87 Күн бұрын
Sick sick people
@julieweismann6232
@julieweismann6232 Күн бұрын
That’s what I keep wondering about, not a single man reported it & turned him in?!? They’re all complicit, even the ones who didn’t rape her.
@relfyem
@relfyem Күн бұрын
It's very moving that Giselle Pelicot is expressing surprise for the support given to her by other women, as the service she has provided to women by making this a fully public trial is immeasurable and will still be having an impact way into the future.
@Rhade15
@Rhade15 2 күн бұрын
The abusive side of the porn and sex industry feeds these disgusting desires
@Abby-yc7tt
@Abby-yc7tt 2 күн бұрын
No, men do.
@L-K-Jellyfish
@L-K-Jellyfish 2 күн бұрын
Exactly!!! I really wish everyone would all stop being so weak and take a stand against the hideous harm being caused by the massive monster that online pornography has become. I am looking at you CANADA 🇨🇦 - because that’s where a lot of it is being housed. It might be produced any where in the world but Canada is where it has been centralised and then fed to the world.
@cathyridley3005
@cathyridley3005 Күн бұрын
@@L-K-Jellyfish Yes! It's disgusting and should be stopped! It's done such harm to society.
@RogerMellie-yk3gw
@RogerMellie-yk3gw Күн бұрын
​@@Abby-yc7ttNo, women do.
@susanplatt5331
@susanplatt5331 Күн бұрын
It's men. They are the xes industry. They created it because they want to live their sick fantasies.
@curoseba5363
@curoseba5363 Күн бұрын
This woman is a class act and thank God she has the greatest family and most sensible legal team. This lawyer is amazing and truly has handled this case with outmost dignity. It is amazing to watch.
@robinjaffin3418
@robinjaffin3418 Күн бұрын
Excellent respectful interview. This lawyer is so deeply compassionate.
@claire2088
@claire2088 Күн бұрын
As frustrating as it is I can totally see why no one realised something like this could be going on- the symptoms and signs make sense now, but it's such an insane thing to do to someone I can't imagine many people/doctors would think 'ah yeah, you're being drugged and raped'. Must have been so scary to have all those strange symptoms, and then to find out that your spouse who's supposedly supporting you not only knew exactly why you were unwell but was causing it, like the betrayal is so far beyond what I can even begin to comprehend
@beckee6282
@beckee6282 Күн бұрын
Women’s healthcare for you. We’re never believed unless we’re half-dead and turning blue. As a woman with chronic health issues I’ve basically given up on the medical system. I have zero trust in it anymore. I’ve been dismissed, degraded, insulted, shamed, verbally and emotionally abused, sexually assaulted and maliciously targeted for my sex and age too many times
@ChalNjurshEp
@ChalNjurshEp 5 сағат бұрын
This woman…..❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ you are right, the betrayal and the TRAUMA
@alisongreen7576
@alisongreen7576 Сағат бұрын
He also filmed his pregnant daughter in law in the shower and his daughter also says she was abused. As if it wasn’t bad enough, it’s worse.
@HilarySing-z5c
@HilarySing-z5c 2 күн бұрын
What a kind compassionate man this lawyer is . ❤
@JocelynKoo
@JocelynKoo 2 күн бұрын
Jesus christ. It's just incredible you complimented the man before the real victim. I'm sure he's a nice guy, but it's his JOB to defend and represent her. SHE'S the hero and the compassionate one. Even in this severe rape case, men get praises so much easier before women. Please, I hope you think about how come your subconscious or whatever made you write this comment.
@HilarySing-z5c
@HilarySing-z5c 2 күн бұрын
@ you’re absolutely right and I have been following this case from the start . She is a very brave woman. It’s horrific what happened to her . I was merely touched by how sensitive and caring he was to her . Yes it’s his job but he’s particularly gentle in his manner . I can’t imagine how traumatic it is for her to now know what she has been through !!! 😕
@JocelynKoo
@JocelynKoo 2 күн бұрын
@@HilarySing-z5c I'm sorry. I may have overreacted and was too harsh. I saw so many times how men gets the credit away from women and thought your comment was one of them. Clearly it wasn't. I hope I didn't hurt your feelings too much. Thank you for caring.
@HilarySing-z5c
@HilarySing-z5c 2 күн бұрын
@ I totally understand. ❤️
@vbk9697
@vbk9697 Күн бұрын
This is one of the loveliest internet conversations I have ever seen. 2 people actually listening to each other.
@grahamkemp5102
@grahamkemp5102 19 сағат бұрын
My son's and I as men, feel nothing but revulsion about this outrageous case. Not all men are predators or would be rapists, real men are supportive of women and protective when necessary.
@Pe-S
@Pe-S 15 сағат бұрын
Thank you for saying that. Good to hear from a man's perspective.
@LalaDepala_00
@LalaDepala_00 14 сағат бұрын
A good man is worth the world, just like a good woman. Thank you for your comment, sir. Your sons have a good example.
@katebradshaw9280
@katebradshaw9280 14 сағат бұрын
Not all men are bad, no… but too many are.
@bonbonvegabon
@bonbonvegabon 13 сағат бұрын
You clearly arent a conservative
@towanda1067
@towanda1067 10 сағат бұрын
If you and you son feel revulsion at this outrageous case, then DO something about it! As the lawyer said, these were “ordinary men,” not a bunch of sociopaths inside a prison. That means there are MANY ordinary men out there who would and do commit terrible crimes against women. Unfortunately, as much as women have tried to bring this issue to the forefront, MEN DO NOT ACT to reduce these terrible crimes. It is proven that men do not listen to women who speak about this…it is easy to label such women as “man-hating feminists” and discount what they have to say. But there is some chance they will listen to other MEN. So what do you and your son do? First, educate yourself. Look at the abuses women suffer around the world. Look at the statistics here in the U.S. and in other countries as to how many women are raped, physically abused, and/or murdered by men. Then look for a group that works towards addressing this, like ones that go into schools to talk with young men and women or works with parenting groups to raise healthier boys, etc. Frankly, I am tired of male outrage at what women suffer. It is self-serving. You can feel like one of the good guys because you are outraged. But that doesn’t change anything. Remember, “If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem.”
@MichelleJones-p4e
@MichelleJones-p4e Күн бұрын
What an amazing woman! What despicable, horrible men!!! May she have nothing but peace and joy for the rest of her life. I hope everyone every where rolls out the red carpet for her everywhere, giving her all the best, and treating her with the dignity and respect she deserves as a woman and as a human being. ❤️❤️❤️🌹
@Traveltheworld-w9l
@Traveltheworld-w9l 10 сағат бұрын
Little did they know she was a force of nature.
@noahgilbertson7530
@noahgilbertson7530 15 сағат бұрын
This woman does not deserve to feel an ounce of shame for what was done to her. My heart goes out to her
@eva2110
@eva2110 8 сағат бұрын
Her message is that "shame must change sides". Being raped isn't a shame for the woman but actually for the men who rape her. That's a whole new way of seeing it. It's for them to be ashamed, not for the victim.
@rvrgrrl
@rvrgrrl 19 сағат бұрын
It's so sad, but seems to be a universal truth that victims often feel the shame that rightfully belongs to perpetrators. Madame Pelicot publicly tore the mask of shame away from herself and tossed it to her abusers, even though we still hear them trying to offer excuses for their abhorrent behavior.
@livingdeadgirla
@livingdeadgirla 2 күн бұрын
This is a really good interview. I am grateful for Gisele and her legal team.
@MischievousMischief
@MischievousMischief 2 күн бұрын
She is so incredibly strong and brave!!!!!
@RogerMellie-yk3gw
@RogerMellie-yk3gw Күн бұрын
Lovely virtue signalling
@milingimbi1438
@milingimbi1438 Күн бұрын
​@RogerMellie-yk3gw how did you cope and move on when you were raped?
@amyh.691
@amyh.691 2 күн бұрын
Please monitor these comments or turn them off entirely. This woman has endured enough degradation and abuse already. Don't enable another level of it.
@1milliondogs
@1milliondogs 2 күн бұрын
To be fair, considering what she went through, on the 0.01% chance she actually reads them, I don't think a couple of dumb troll comments would bother her too much.
@InsoIence
@InsoIence 2 күн бұрын
@@1milliondogs Maybe, but we're not ones to say so. That would be speaking for the victim.
@RogerMellie-yk3gw
@RogerMellie-yk3gw Күн бұрын
What are you talking about. As if some French lady is looking through these comments. If you don't like the comments, don't read them.
@Frostjotnar
@Frostjotnar Күн бұрын
@@RogerMellie-yk3gwit’s more about not allowing more filth to be said about someone who’s survived what she did
@Rodgerthatok
@Rodgerthatok Күн бұрын
I just reported 2 of them to KZbin and had them removed. KZbin will absolutely remove offensive comments if they become aware. This is a very brave woman, trolls beware, KZbin is watching you. Maybe this brave woman does not read the comments, but the rest of us shouldn’t have to read that crap either.
@cathyridley3005
@cathyridley3005 Күн бұрын
It's all so vile, disgusting ,disturbing and disgraceful !!! Gisele Pelicot is beyond BRAVE!! We stand with you Gisele ,women from all over the world. ❤
@RogerMellie-yk3gw
@RogerMellie-yk3gw 12 сағат бұрын
@@cathyridley3005 yeah, it is pretty gross. Poor lady. Some dudes are just evil
@kathyh9423
@kathyh9423 Күн бұрын
Unprecedented bravery and courage. Her legacy, while not what anyone would have ever wanted, is profound. May the rest of her days be filled with peace, knowing she is respected, admired and loved.
@aderynzajicova7230
@aderynzajicova7230 16 сағат бұрын
So much respect for Ms Pelicot and her team. No words can give voice to how much society should cherish her and be grateful to her for her handling of the situation. The disgust with which I think of these men is just heightened by seeing one trying to stop himself being filmed. The irony. What a vile little man.
@hayleypbop6997
@hayleypbop6997 2 күн бұрын
‘That she could have a nervous breakdown, of course.’ Of course. Imagine the role of having to tell her this.
@marisolgarcia9187
@marisolgarcia9187 Күн бұрын
What horrible husband.
@Alexcatchh
@Alexcatchh Күн бұрын
Man
@deerheart87
@deerheart87 Күн бұрын
Vile
@xxxxxxxxx1652
@xxxxxxxxx1652 18 сағат бұрын
Man*
@vanemo778
@vanemo778 20 сағат бұрын
This lawyer is great, super eloquent en empathetic I’m glad she got a great team at her side. May she heal ❤
@MercySomaes
@MercySomaes 17 сағат бұрын
I was dumbfounded by this case. When I first heard about the case, I thought, how is something like this possible. She is a brave woman.
@ZRcooking
@ZRcooking 10 сағат бұрын
All the “ordinary men” must go to jail.
@eva2110
@eva2110 8 сағат бұрын
They all will go to jail, for sure!
@henryzhao1514
@henryzhao1514 Күн бұрын
A survivor of an atrocity. God bless her.
@Downarabbithole276
@Downarabbithole276 Күн бұрын
As broken as this makes us see how some humanity are deprived, this brave woman is saving so many lives for generations moving forward. Madam Pelicot, you are a hero and I’m also so sorry you had this happen.
@coolbeans5911
@coolbeans5911 16 сағат бұрын
"where they allegedly rped her while being filmed" if it was filmed and you have the proof of the film how can it still be alleged?
@alisongreen7576
@alisongreen7576 Сағат бұрын
Until there is a verdict on each man, the press need to keep saying allegedly so that if any get off on a technicality, they can’t sue the press for libel. The press believe it happened, they just have to protect themselves until it’s all confirmed legally.
@user-qo3jh9mn1t
@user-qo3jh9mn1t 6 сағат бұрын
I would have lost my mind. She thought only of protecting other women. Women everywhere honor her courage.
@sonialopes7367
@sonialopes7367 2 күн бұрын
The reason people do what they do is because they can. If convinced they will never be caught/punished, human beings are capable of everything. Society at large has equated (individual) freedom to "anything goes" and lack of responsibility. Morality is nothing but an abstraction.
@KaMiQa16
@KaMiQa16 2 күн бұрын
she is absolutely fearless
@eva2110
@eva2110 8 сағат бұрын
Courage doesn't mean being fearless, but doing things despite fear.
@Pe-S
@Pe-S 15 сағат бұрын
This case is tattooed on my mind now. One of the most heinous rape cases I've ever heard of. The husband's betrayal, drugging her and letting complete strangers violate her in the most horrific, humiliating way for _years,_ the mother of his children. I wouldn't survive something like that, I'd leave this life - simple as that. When this case broke, I foolishly read comments on various platforms and forums, and it was shocking to see the many indignant males automatically siding with the husband, how it must've been her fault, she was either a "lying horny old woman" or trying to set him up. That has stayed with me as well. How so many men simply hate us. 😞
@TheLampini
@TheLampini 11 сағат бұрын
The comments sections under every video pertaining to this case have opened my mind also to just how many men do truly hate women.
@Pe-S
@Pe-S 11 сағат бұрын
@@TheLampini It's so depressing and disturbing.
@TheLampini
@TheLampini 11 сағат бұрын
@@Pe-S it is. Even more disturbing is how much women "hurt men's feelings" when we overwhelmingly chose the Bear.. Like even the decent ones try and gaslight us.
@Pe-S
@Pe-S 10 сағат бұрын
@@TheLampini Yep.. Many men seem to have been radicalized via various, mainly far-right, online echo chambers these days. I'm completely fine being single at the moment, tbh.
@Pe-S
@Pe-S 10 сағат бұрын
​@@TheLampini Yep.. Many men seem to have been radicalized via various, mainly far-right, online echo chambers these days. I'm completely fine with being single at the moment, tbh.
@smileyface-hx3gh
@smileyface-hx3gh 23 сағат бұрын
Stop describing the rapists as "ordinary men" This normalizes violence and rape
@CraigsOverijse
@CraigsOverijse 21 сағат бұрын
unfrotunately though that is the reality too many apparently "ordinary men" turned out to be not that in this case. It does not normalise rape and sex violence what it does is explode the myth that sex preditors are a breed apart. Yes not all men are rapists but it is shocking that almost none of them in this case thought what they did was wrong and pled guilty.
@naye1045
@naye1045 20 сағат бұрын
@@CraigsOverijsewell said
@shanebyrne7020
@shanebyrne7020 Күн бұрын
The verdict is due around the 20th December i hope they enjoy Christmas in prison and this amazing woman gets the justice she deserves
@quasarsupernova9643
@quasarsupernova9643 16 сағат бұрын
How can anyone - any man degrade himself so much this way?
@ellieramseyer
@ellieramseyer Күн бұрын
She is an example to all women in the world.
@foxjacket
@foxjacket 19 сағат бұрын
Gisele Pelicot... I can't even put into words how amazing, strong and brave she is. I admire her so much.
@barbararobertson3720
@barbararobertson3720 Күн бұрын
Such a brave lady. It is certain that her example will empower other victims. May God bless her and her children and bring them peace
@redlady222
@redlady222 Күн бұрын
This woman is incredibly strong and resilient. She’s amazing. I hope she finds peace ❤
@zanelemofikoe4800
@zanelemofikoe4800 Күн бұрын
Someone needs to start a go fund me and we must all donate money to her so she can go on a very long holiday, buy beautiful clothes, get trauma counseling and just live the best of her days for the rest of her days!!!
@alxinldn11
@alxinldn11 12 сағат бұрын
I cannot fathom the courage it takes to do this. Respect to you Madame Pelicot ♥
@christaylor2529
@christaylor2529 Күн бұрын
Feel for her. She definitely got herself a incredible lawyer. Hope we all can learn from this?
@pranitapeper8491
@pranitapeper8491 8 сағат бұрын
Life in prison and his face should be shown. I can understand why she wants her video shown she been stripped of everything. these men should be exposed for participating in this crime.
@angelchase7857
@angelchase7857 21 сағат бұрын
Just to comment. Its so brave of her to do this. In waiver her right to anonymity, she gave face to this issue, that it can happen to just anyone and any woman out there. It humanized this experience, that it did not happen to a Jane Doe online but someone real.
@kdx9083
@kdx9083 Күн бұрын
I am so in awe of her courage in the face of such tremendous trauma. She's heroic.
@PointGreyFitness
@PointGreyFitness 19 сағат бұрын
Giselle so incredibly proud of standing up to your abuser x. Extraordinary
@michelefiorilla9714
@michelefiorilla9714 Күн бұрын
She should be the 'Time Person of the Year'.
@beckee6282
@beckee6282 Күн бұрын
They’d rather give that to a man in a dress, unfortunately
@EileenHall-j9f
@EileenHall-j9f Күн бұрын
This case is so shocking. What a courageous human being this woman is. This was such a good interview, Victoria Derbyshire, must rate has one of the mainstream best journalists. She listens, she responds with intelligence and empathy. She asks the right questions. The Lawyer appears exceptional, this was a brilliant interview. It explained an horrific crime, without needing to exploit the situation. Other journalists, watch and learn.
@marleyhill34
@marleyhill34 Күн бұрын
I'm part of the alternative sexual community and these types of things ( getting a wife to perform a sexual act without explicit consent) is normal to the men. A lot of them are wired to see women as sexual objects. I'm not shocked at all. I'm so happy I'm single.
@caterinadelgalles8783
@caterinadelgalles8783 Күн бұрын
This woman is beyond brave.
@kristyrobinson1979
@kristyrobinson1979 Күн бұрын
This woman is an inspiration. So brave. Going to help many victims/survivors be brave enough to come forward
@richardengelhardt582
@richardengelhardt582 Күн бұрын
She's so fortunate to have such a calm, intelligent, articulate lawyer.
@Lyddiebits
@Lyddiebits 2 күн бұрын
Brava Gisele 💜 you have my unending supportive love💜
@JenMaxon
@JenMaxon Күн бұрын
Brave woman - she's done a great service for all women.
@KCNwokoye
@KCNwokoye 15 сағат бұрын
Thankfully this case is not in the US where only the rich can hire the best Lawyers. Such a terrific Lawyer, so thoughtful and sympathetic. Justice for the woman.
@maela548
@maela548 15 сағат бұрын
I have the utmost respect for this woman. Her bravery is groundbreaking and will hopefully bring a change. As a woman and mother I can only thank her.
@leelafuturama9198
@leelafuturama9198 13 сағат бұрын
People still dont understand how hard the predator works, the lengths that they go to to keep terrorizing and preying on others, and Most of their work...is sewing seeds of doubt.
@evap.5121
@evap.5121 8 сағат бұрын
This woman took her power back by doing whatever the law allowed to make sure this story would be as wide spread as possible even though all she could show is her own face. That is insanely difficult to do while still dealing with the knowledge of how unfair these laws that protect perpetrators are and knowing she might never be able to truly expose these men
@rpow9666
@rpow9666 Күн бұрын
She is an absolute hero. Incredible strength.
@RogerMellie-yk3gw
@RogerMellie-yk3gw 12 сағат бұрын
@@rpow9666 Not sure about hero. But good on her for speaking up etc
@sitdownstandup91
@sitdownstandup91 4 сағат бұрын
@@RogerMellie-yk3gw have you always been a scrote?
@sitdownstandup91
@sitdownstandup91 4 сағат бұрын
@@RogerMellie-yk3gw She is a hero to women. Maybe the "ordinary men" are yours
@CraigsOverijse
@CraigsOverijse 21 сағат бұрын
I think she has taken back control of what was done to her Bravo Madame Bravo. I hope she and her family can heal.
@Ashybe011
@Ashybe011 14 сағат бұрын
I find it heartbreaking that so many creatures committed these offences
@ShannaDuncan-v4x
@ShannaDuncan-v4x 8 сағат бұрын
As a victim of SA myself, I've got the utmost respect for Mme Pelicot. She's probably one of the bravest women on this planet.
@scilines
@scilines 11 сағат бұрын
How does some mother’s sweet innocent baby boy turn into the kind of man who would do something like this? 😑 Something is terrible wrong.
@alisongreen7576
@alisongreen7576 Сағат бұрын
Most sexual abusers have been abused themselves, and been raised in very “off” environments sexually- basically in families with no sexual “boundaries”- the parents have sex with each other in front of the kids, with friends, neighbours, strangers, with their parents, with the kids, and encourage the kids to have sex with each other. There is just no teaching of what is appropriate and there is no teaching of consent- the kids are victims until they are big enough to prey on others. Most victims do not become abusers, but some do, and they multiple victims, so the cycle persists.
@mirrorreflex
@mirrorreflex 19 сағат бұрын
This is the kind of woman who should be awarded a woman of the year award.
@tinytraveltales754
@tinytraveltales754 18 сағат бұрын
I may not know Ms.Gisele Pelicot personally, but I truly believe that she embodies a level of bravery and strength that few can match. I can honestly say she is, and likely always will be, the bravest person I’ll ever know in my lifetime.
@DarqChildNYC
@DarqChildNYC 15 сағат бұрын
Madame Pelicot I applaud you. You are brave. You are showing the world that though you were horribly victimized you are not a victim. All must realize that rape is an act of VIOLENCE. Many people do not report rape simply because of the shame and stigma attached yet she stands up to her rapists time and time again publicly. May she truly heal from all of this trauma.
@ragnaice
@ragnaice 20 сағат бұрын
Every time I hear something about this case I get a weird combination of shivers of disgust for the perpetrators and respect for her, literally the hair on the back of my head is standing up.
@onlymebaby.9249
@onlymebaby.9249 14 сағат бұрын
Wow. Im sure that probably convinced the jury. Seeing her be positioned and moved around like a rag doll because she's out cold. I send her strength and healing. She's one strong, brave woman.
@julivee9505
@julivee9505 6 сағат бұрын
It hurts to hear what she went through, breaks my heart. But I am so proud of her and in awe of her bravery and how she carries herself.
@itsomethingreat
@itsomethingreat 21 сағат бұрын
When is society going to teach males, when are parents going to teach boys, to feel shame of the sexual obsession and sexualised behaviour they have?
@alisongreen7576
@alisongreen7576 Сағат бұрын
It’s not about sex, it’s about power- sex is just the weapon. We need to teach boys that yes, they have physical power over women generally, and that with that power comes great responsibility. It’s really about “punching down”- inflicting your misery on someone who can’t stop you- women, children, animals, weaker men…. We don’t see fit 6ft 4 men who weigh 200lbs being abused very often do we?
@CorinnaJaneVox
@CorinnaJaneVox 16 сағат бұрын
Brave, brave lady. May this lead to positive change.
@justinakavanagh3058
@justinakavanagh3058 19 сағат бұрын
I pray that she will feel the most precious love and healing from women all over the world. May God bless this very brave woman.
@towanda1067
@towanda1067 10 сағат бұрын
I have been following this case for some time and agree that Madame Pelican is indeed a brave women for agreeing to endure the harassment, public shaming, and other types of abuse that go along with speaking out about such crimes. That, in a nutshell, shows how messed up our world is that it continues to try and blame women and exonerate men for these crimes. The scariest truth in this whole trial is that these were “ordinary men” who sought out and took advantage of the opportunity to abuse this woman. And that’s the bare truth of it all and why it is horrific because these are not sociopaths…these are men who are fully functioning in society otherwise. This case should force people to ask deep questions…questions that are rarely asked as to why ordinary men commit such crimes? And if you don’t believe they do, you have your head in a hole because the statistics are there. Just look at how many women are raped, physically abused, and/or murdered annually all across the world. It is an epidemic that is rarely addressed, and as such, has been basically condoned, ignored, and minimized by society. When women speak up about it, they are frequently called “man-hating feminists” and discounted or ostracized. They are sometimes even targeted for being vocal and not knowing their place. In this way, such crimes against women are allowed to continue. Many men will be “outraged” about these violent acts against women. But their outrage is self-serving. By being outraged, they can count themselves among the “good guys” who would never hurt a woman. But their outrage changes NOTHING. What I’d like to see as a result of the Pelicot trial is for MEN to actively work towards ending the violence against women by educating themselves on this issue, coming together with other men to form groups or join groups that address how to change male behavior…go talk to young school-age boys or parenting groups or athletes or Boys Clubs. TAKE ACTION! That would be the best way to honor Madame Pelicot’s bravery.
@rashowie1
@rashowie1 Күн бұрын
She's such a strong woman, really. I hope the rest of her life is filled with love and triumph, and happiness
@weirdloverwilde
@weirdloverwilde 16 сағат бұрын
SHAME MUST CHANGE SIDES ❤ GISELE PELICOT WE LOVE YOU ❤
@bangslamwham88
@bangslamwham88 2 күн бұрын
IMO the cuplrits won't be properly punished.
@cathymungall-baldwin7391
@cathymungall-baldwin7391 4 сағат бұрын
Please someone give this woman and her lawyer an award. Make her the next president of France. Don't allow the men to cover their faces with hoods, hats and shades. Print their names.
@dellishart9535
@dellishart9535 7 сағат бұрын
Such a brave lady,so proud of her, may her future be the opposite of the darkness she faced. From Australia 🇦🇺
@maryannmay7105
@maryannmay7105 3 сағат бұрын
This lady is beyond belief in the strength that she has going through something so unbelievably horrendous as this.
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