Antikythera Mechanism: The ancient 'computer' that simply shouldn't exist - BBC REEL

[@keesdevreugd9177]

It's a bit unsettling to realize that advanced tech will not necessarily prevent a civilization to fall. And that when a civilization falls, its technological knowledge just will be forgotten.

[@kamurray67]

You my friend have hit the nail directly on the head. How much knowledge have we truly lost over the centuries/millenniums. No civilization is protected from demise and I fear we are edging closer to a major collapse of world civilization. Here in the USA we are worried about pronouns while dangerous people are playing dangerous games all around us.

[@legend9335]

The Romans invented cement but this knowledge was lost after the fall of Rome only to be rediscovered in modern times.

[@slayer8actual]

Yeah, but that pic of my ass posted on the internet will be there forever...... go figure.

[@pearls1404]

Yes although we will likely leave a pretty significant footprint digitally and physically. I reckon our civilisation would be able to be discovered pretty easily

[@sinclair2469]

Almost impossible now because we have written our knowledge almost everywhere and in different forms

[@LowLifeAM]

I can imagine the greek dude who made it talking to the ship captain like: "This is a never before seen invention that will revolutionize how the world sees the stars, it can even predict eclipses. So please, for the sake of scientific advancement, don't sink." "Yeah, like that's gonna happen."

[@leighthompson5241]

I thought it would be amusing if it was a child’s toy. Just imagine the look on their faces if they deciphered the language and it read , For children 10 yrs old and up. Lol.

[@calebmon]

it wasn't designed out of the blue, Scientists agree that there must have been predecessors! So while it might have been important science other machines like it probably existed at the time, maybe even better versions of the same machine so it might not have been important or even unique we just don't know much about it, and none of these alleged predecessors have ever been discovered either. They just must have existed because no one makes technological leaps to mechanical computers over night lol

[@willfie7075]

As hes talking they just take it from him and toss it off the ship lol

[@pixiedust6630]

@@EggEnjoyer How did NASA lose such a technology. I am confusion

[@HelloOnepiece]

@@pixiedust6630 by being idiots and not storing data. There is a reason why we have been using russian/Soviet rockets

[@crazyspace6792]

I remember doing a report on it when I was in middle school. I emailed the head researcher with some questions and he graciously answered all of them.

[@PS_ItsMe]

May you share details of your report and the researchers answers?

[@Nicolas-v1z4i]

@@PS_ItsMe he was in elementary school bro..

[@JillKnapp]

​@@Nicolas-v1z4iSome people save interesting stuff from their childhood, though

[@MitchellTheMitch]

​@@Nicolas-v1z4iCan it run doom?

[@LThaPunisha]

​@@MitchellTheMitch Great question and probably.

[@sherparoyale]

While the Antikythera is clearly a marvel, I’m impressed with how far 3D Xray has come that we’ve been able to uncover all the mechanisms and inscriptions!

[@favray]

Seriously😂 or the fact that I’m watching this video in 4k while communicating with you halfway across the world all on a thin little device I can fit in my pocket. Funny how far we’ve come

[@kevinreyimperial722]

The sad thing now is that KZbin is deleting comments they don't like.​@@favray

[@patriciajrs46]

​@@kevinreyimperial722 Exactly!!.

[@anti-ethniccleansing465]

@@kevinreyimperial722 Which is a great example of “moving backwards,” as was mentioned at the end of the video. Censorship is disgusting.

[@jay4you853]

​@@kevinreyimperial722It's called an annoying overzealous algorithm, it's not a human deleting anything. You're irrelevant to them. It happens to all of us, even on the most random cat videos🤷🏾‍♂️

[@zoinomiko]

What's extra amazing is how small and delicate this device is - I went to Athens just to see it and was blown away. The craftsmanship and mathematics required to create such a thing is astounding.

[@nixl3518]

As it is inexplicable. That this tech existed so long ago, defies the rest of what we assume ancient life to have been.

[@nickyhealey198]

Oi oi ;)

[@swatteam2143]

@@nixl3518 that wasn't ancient life it wasn't that long ago lol

[@JDGage]

Genesis 11:6

[@lunarwuffy5299]

This channel has a series of videos where the creator makes one with the tools that would have been available at the time. It's a really interesting watch. kzbin.info/www/bejne/g32XpaqVit-kkKc

[@HomerSimpson-tv5yu]

Imagine how devastating it was to lose this in the shipwreck back in the day.

[@leventefaludi9169]

5:26 It was not

[@sew_gal7340]

According to this video, this mechanic was common so if it was lost at sea wouldnt there be many others?? What happened to all the makers and inventors of this item? DId they all die without passing on their knowledge? Wouldnt this invention be written in hundreds of books, wouldnt people build upon it like how clocks are being built to this very day from hundreds of years ago? I feel like some information is missing

[@Linkolite]

It was probably a great loss but they speculate it might have been a prototype on an experimental Greek warship or exploratory vessel; it just further puts it into context how similar people have always been. I like to imagine that everything would have felt just as sophisticated and as advanced as it did today throughout human history. You’ve got to imagine as well that for something like this to be on a ship in the first place, they weren’t worried about losing the ONLY mechanism they had.

[@Linkolite]

@@sew_gal7340They speculate this was a very secretive technology. Even if it had been written about, you’ve got to consider how many libraries have been charred into the gutters by enthusiastic Christian mercenaries and other barbarians. :’(

[@tw8464]

​​@@Linkolitethat's a good point. This might have been a prototype or being shipped to a wealthy person or king. Can imagine devices similar to these could've been put onto ships for navigation yet this one they say is predicting sky observation well into the future, so I'm not sure exactly what they wanted to do with this. But would have been amazing if they'd used this technology to make navigation devices for all their ships and each ship had one. Just would've been amazing like a fleet of ancient ships with "modern" technology.

[@JonathanXLindqviust]

03:10 for those wondering why they'd fly the huge x-ray machine and not the booksized object, it's because despite astronomically small chances of a planecrash or a ship sinking, there's plenty of x-rays in the world but only one single known object like this.

[@anthonydefex]

I figured the machine was priceless.

[@klausbrinck2137]

Still the x-rays-machine brought to Greece was one of a kind back then, but it COULD be rebuild in case of an accident during transport, in opposition to the Antikythera mechanism, as you already yourself noticed. The greek ministry of culture didn´t allow it to be moved away of the museum, and that was, of course, a correct decision..

[@voxer3060]

Makes sense but i think, just a small bump in the object could be prejudicial to its delicated state, thats really why they did it.

[@mnomadvfx]

@@klausbrinck2137 For more reasons than one though - cultural theft is still something the Greeks are smarting about with bits of the Parthenon all over the world and outside of Greek national control.

[@klausbrinck2137]

@@mnomadvfx I don´t understand what you mean by "smarting about". I´m no english-native-speaker... Greece has bad experiences with foreign states and its cultural inheritance...

[@ez9647]

KZbin is like the coolest library ever

[@track1949]

Yes, that.was always the promise of the internet.

[@MonicaSĪGÑofJõñãhYUNIS]

KZbin sensors certain truth's and erases them also. It's a biased system that doesn't want the world to be enlightened, especially on the Quran. The greatest living book on the planet.

[@oksyar]

That's exactly what I've always thought about history that in those days, very advanced technologies were made and then after a generation or two, lost completely simply because of lack of communication and lack of storing information. Now imagine how many great minds would have come into being and gone without leaving any footprint.

[@NoRegertsHere]

And imagine how many great minds will be completely connected via the internet in 100 years. All of them. Future innovation is going to be unimaginable.

[@oksyar]

@@NoRegertsHere exactly, innovation will accelerate exponentially

[@JosephKulik2016]

@@NoRegertsHere You confuse the need to be educated with the need to prove to others that you are educated. I would submit that there are many educated people today who could contribute by publishing what they know but simply refuse to do so. One very good reason is that a person who has made a discovery doesn't want it to be used for the wrong purposes by others. This is why 1/2 the scientists in the Manhattan Project regretted that they ever helped to develop the first atom bomb. What the modern Internet does in that regard is to spread what you learned or developed to more of the wrong people. The "wrong people" today are primarily Greedy Capitalists who will use what you teach them to make as much money as possible, as quickly as possible regardless of your original intentions. One reason why the machine in this video has remained such a secret since Antiquity may be that the person who developed made sure that only a few, "well intentioned people even knew of its existence. There is a difference between being smart and needing to brag to other people about how smart you are. Think about it.

[@judithvallembois2744]

@@JosephKulik2016 I say the "wrong people" today are terrorists.

[@damienbreslin6204]

There was ancestors who would have been as smart if not smarter than Einstein

[@jamesd2128]

Just goes to show our ancestors had the same brains we do, capable of astonishing achievements and great leaps forward. Present day arrogance needs to be seen in this light.

[@SelfImprovement1111]

Crazy to think they knew some of the stuff we know today. Considering they wrote dozens of religions that sound primitive it surprises me they had understanding of engineering and astronomy.

[@homerosouza2353]

@@SelfImprovement1111 I don't get you, wdym with primitive religions?

[@cameronkirkpatrick1310]

It was even more impressive back then to make such sophisticated machines when they didn’t have knowledge that we have of modern technology to guide them, it really is crazy how astute and perceptive the ancient people of the world were back then.

[@bryansantillano]

@@homerosouza2353 lmao all religions are “primitive” even the current ones. But you get what he means

[@homerosouza2353]

@@bryansantillano I completely agree with you, but it sounded like he just consider the old religions to be primitive. Maybe I just misinterpreted him.

[@alphonseelric7361]

Imagine how many such artifacts are still undiscovered! And has impact on our understanding of ancient world!

[@hippa2dahoppa2]

or how many got discovered and thought to been something not old and thrown to the side lol

[@alwaysyouramanda]

I’ve always figured we picked up on things too fast for this to be our first bout of technological advancements. It’s pretty obvious to me that we’ve come from something more than “hunters and gatherers.”

[@daArchitect-]

We also came from more then just a happenchance of a big bang.

[@aberamagold7509]

Does this make you stop laughing at those Ancient Alien TV shows? Me neither

[@Jag0h]

If they had the technology to create that device, you can be sure that they had already been creating small machinery like that for years. There's almost certainly more devices like that to be discovered.

[@mrc1737]

A “machine” that was way ahead of its time. Really though….it was the individual that created this majestic masterpiece of a machine who was way ahead if his time!

[@SilverSquirrel]

120 years ago that was still the most advanced computer on earth.

[@whohan779]

Not necessarily depending upon definition. There were 'computers' made in the 18th century, they just weren't as versatile and ofc not electric.

[@santyclause8034]

@@whohan779 Charles Babbage, eh?

[@aakksshhaayy]

I would argue that an abbacus from 4000 years ago was more of a "computer" than this thing.

[@aakksshhaayy]

@NITERAGERS You're wrong, the first proto-homo-sapiens came on this planet approx 150,000 years ago who were the survivors of a battlestar known as galactica. They interbred with the local humanoid species which had evolved naturally.

[@Chris.Davies]

No it was not. It was broken and corroded and missing a bunch of stuff. It's like saying a broken smartphone is an "advanced computer". No. It's an expensive and very thin brick.

[@chazblank2717]

Wait, this thing had an intact user manual?! And it was as kept with the original device all this time… most impressive 👏

[@gokulsreekumar4371]

Probably also included the entire schema and manuals on how to do the repairs. Ahem, apple can take note #RightToRepair

[@DSX1]

Even Ancient Greece gave us a chance to read the docs

[@theScienceLabLive]

That'll get you a little extra $$$ on ebay!

[@penguinpie5056]

*batteries not included

[@thezedster1]

But did they RTFM?

[@bigbadword]

Being able to manufacture such a devise is almost as impressive as the devise itself.

[@158-i6z]

Yeah, that's what people primarily underrate. If people thought of computers 500, 1000, 1500 years ago (and one can argue that every generation had mathematicians who conceived of "algorithms"), they simply wouldn't have the electronic/mechanical development to produce these in any PRACTICAL or mass-distributed kind of way. Everyone has a smartphone not just because we have the technology to make smartphones, but because it's relatively easy to make millions of smartphones for cheap and every precursor to the smartphone since the first telephone and personal computer were also that way.

[@Ron.Swanson.]

device*

[@ImHeadshotSniper]

@@158-i6z basically what you're saying is that progression of knowledge does HAVE to happen in some kind of order, because seemingly if you try to just skip ahead of all the other things such as electricity, then you will lack the resources and understanding to successfully create what we know today to be a mobile phone or a modern computer. i have never doubted human intelligence of the last few thousands of years, because really they're not much different than we are today on an evolutionary scale. i moreso doubted the historical fact that whenever we have had to start from "scratch" when it comes to a field of science, we have had always had to convince people that what you're producing is useful, or hell even just not useless. (the introduction of religious faiths absolutely being one of the things which harmed the idea of useful production and human progression as it could very simply be substituted for FAITH which has literally never gotten anybody anywhere EVER in itself, and in fact with certainty caused the degredation of any potential sciences trying to be born within their faith based living.) --- basically faith had created a way to turn an absolutely use-LESS event into things which they find meaning and comfort in, just to stop exactly where they are and progress no further.

[@classictutor]

@@ImHeadshotSniper Not all faiths are the same and not all religions are the same and neither religion the same as faith. I will stop here about that because it will just devolve into useless arguments. However, it is true that knowledge does not progress linearly, nor is knowledge that is developed kept. Just a possibility: Even though billions of people around the world use cell phones, if all engineers and scientists were to disappear suddenly, it is not likely we will have cell phones few decades later unless there is some record of knowledge.

[@ImHeadshotSniper]

@@classictutor i'm WELL aware that not all faiths are the same, however i strongly disagree that religion is not the same as faith. (i apologize that you wanted to stop there, but here i go devolving into "useless arguments") i understand that there are other uses of the word religion, being "particular system of faith or worship" or the other definition "ascribing to supreme importance", and the common definition we know as worshipping a supreme being. the thing that all of those definitions for religion have in common is its basis on faith in an idea. opposingly, i understand that a lot of my "knowledge" is also based on my faith in people who've obtained the knowledge. the only difference being that religion is entirely anecdotal, and often fails the test of experimentation and evident proof, whereas my faith in "science", even if it prove itself incorrect later on, at least it has the ability to do so, whereas deistic based religions function entirely based on an initial set of assumptions, often a story with its own moral reasoning, and sometimes it is later "corrected" to be more morally acceptable, but never corrected to be proven to be any more factually true! i was not very familiar with exactly what i was trying to explain so i googled it, and really i'm just trying to say that the only way you can truly "know" reality, is by logical inductive and deductive reasoning, because even if something greater than our sensory abilities exists, that is a problem that we need to solve by producing instrumentation with the ability to detect such theorized things we all begin this journey of inductive and deductive reasoning with solipsism and the idea that we all know for sure that exists is ourselves (i think therefore i am type idea), and it is up to us to use our 3d reaction based bodies to figure out consistent, repeatable reactions that we can only then surely say we KNOW to be true. of course if you choose to believe that even our reality isn't real (like simulation theory), i really think that's no different than believing that Heaven comes afterwards, because if deistic prophecies are true, then there literally is no point to achieving things and progression in our real life. that's why WE create purpose, and no invisible deity could EVER give purpose to our planet EVEN IF THEY EXISTED, because if they do exist, then they sure as hell have absolutely nothing to do with the continued survival of our species. we could literally all be wiped out by a rogue planet tomorrow, there is nobody going to stop anything like this from happening, and just because it hasn't happened DOESN'T PROVE THAT THERE IS A GOD! if we knew ahead of time that we were going to be wiped out by said rogue planet, there would STILL, and perhaps more than ever be religious people thinking that for some reason that the actions that they took in their puny pathetic life actually makes a difference in their "fate" after they've died. the fate is that we fade out of existence and our consciousness as an energy gets drained of what is required for it to survive. i think this rogue planet example, and thinking about the fact that hell, even i'd probably suddenly become religious if i saw a massive planet coming towards our atmosphere, prove that religion and faith is a tool for CONFIDENCE (as well as control, and while i was just about to comment about how control was irrelevant to the ideas of religion and faith themselves, i absolutely think that there is ALWAYS a purpose to control people of a faith or religion.) ---the difference between my knowledge being controlled by scholars and scientists opposed to baseless faiths is that science has an incredibly strong base relative to religion, especially considering the fact that like i previously mentioned, science disproves itself, whereas if you attempt to "disprove" a faith or religion, you all of a sudden become defined as not being religious to said faith or religion.

[@3p1ks]

The mechanism could've been invented by some group and was kept classified which may explain why nobody wrote about it despite possibly having more than one device in existence. What's scary is that we might have the same thing going on today. Someone out there in the world may have invented a device that is completely out of our time, and none of us know about it besides them.

[@KIager]

Current day version would be the Skunkworks division at Lockheed.

[@oddities-whatnot]

Good point that, and rather worrying at the same time.

[@Inyourhideyhole]

That's a spooky thought 😮

[@thrivedru]

Oh, well.. We all should just expect that PLENTY is being hidden from us.

[@gavinathling]

This is an exciting thought, but not a particularly plausible one. We are now too complex of a world, for individuals to be able to make any advances, let alone an advance that is beyond the ken of universities or large corporations.

[@adamhill4141]

I think it is totally conceivable that we will have another dark age. How many of us really know how to create and maintain the technology around us.

[@KGBJACKAL]

Made by Atlantean technology

[@jamesgabor9284]

Possibly, but we’re really too sophisticated for all of our technology to be lost and we go back to medieval times, because there are actually people who know how to make things, and machines and technology is so useful to us that it would be necessary to keep it around through a dark age as to not be at a disadvantage to everyone else

[@Muralidharan001]

Those days only a handful of people or just one. Today it's millions of people. Until 90% of population is destroyed I highly doubt it.

[@PG-3462]

@@jamesgabor9284 However, technologies we have are so complex that very few people know how to do it all. For example, an engineer might know how to make a building on paper and be certain that it will hold in place, but this engineer doesn't know how to physically build this building, where to find the raw materials needed or how to actually make concrete and steel. Without our complex economical society, most technologies we have are impossible to make

[@RealUlrichLeland]

@@PG-3462 Yeah it really depends. Some stuff that's very widely used and had a large number of people trained in all aspects of their creation and use probably won't be forgotten. Stuff like the internal combustion engine won't be forgotten because loads of people have a good understanding of how they work. I think the technology at the cutting edge could be at risk of moving backwards though, because of how specialised it is. Like for the semiconductor industry, there's only one company in the entire world capable of building the machines capable of manufacturing the latest silicon chips. If a lot of that workforce retired before training the next generation, if the company went bankrupt or if there was some damage to the scientific record of their technology like by a solar storm then we could easily fall back ten years in electronics development.

[@clairet5636]

As someone who has studied Ancient Greek astronomy, I’m not that surprised. They were highly sophisticated; it’s a modern arrogance that we think we’re so much more intellectually advanced than people in the past.

[@JGrant60]

We’ve got robots landing on Asteroids Billions of miles away. I have more conversations with my friends across the planet than my next door neighbour. Humanity only started in the last century. before that we were just animals.

[@julydays4194]

@@JGrant60 that's shallow af. I think there's nothing new in this world. Our customs and standards change, but 100 years ago there was probably a guy babbling about how humanity only started 100 years before and people before then were just animals. We stand on the shoulders of giants.

[@olsonbryce777]

@@JGrant60 This is probably the most ignorant and pompous thing I've read in a very long time.

[@solidrockofjesuschristmini2423]

@@JGrant60 that's ignorant as hell

[@genpotrait2274]

@@JGrant60 Scientist or mathrmatican or anything they call in the past are brilliance. Its just our time, their time in this world are limited. So we human just accumulate knowledge from what been discovered before to come up with newest technology nowdays. There are step to take. Saying "animal" is such animal thing to do

[@warrenpeece1726]

What's amazing is how people assume that we know everything from the past and underestimate the talents and abilities of the ancients. That they required extraterrestrial intervention for any sort of technology that surprisingly sophisticated.

[@richardv9648]

It is possibly created by a crashed Alien. It (him/her/they) created this to know position of the stars so that they could find the shortest path to go home.

[@TruthSayer2007]

@Warren - You’re 1,000% correct! If it doesn’t fit they’re close-minded narrative, they disregard it. Along with TONS of evidence of a worldwide flood, fresh body parts on dinosaurs, finding villages in the coldest of places today, etc.

[@bigbeartanner]

And I’m not saying aliens did it but the ancient Egyptians never once claimed they built the pyramids in hieroglyphs. Mainstream science and anthropology doesn’t want you knowing there was a more vast and rich history then they say

[@nogardd]

This somewhat reminded me of Horizon Zero Dawn... The ancients...

[@natevanderw]

@@richardv9648 You all are dumb. This is a simple machine. It is not inconceivable that the Greeks were using gears and could have become modern within a few hundred years had the Romans not attacked.

[@painpeace3619]

The way professor is telling the story, is mind blowing.

[@Dervraka]

If you delve into the history it's amazing how close the Ancient Greeks and Romans came to inventing steam power and likely kicking off the Industrial Revolution 1,700 years before it actually happened. Makes you wonder what type of world we would live in today and if it would be better or worse, if things like trains, machinery and electricity were invented in 100AD instead of 1800AD

[@user-cc4hh2zl9c]

Dig deeper.

[@It-b-Blair]

It may have hastened climate change before we could deal with it. Metallurgy has been progressing this whole time (because of war, oddly the same reason this technology was lost 🤪) and the alloys to make it possible just came to pass. Electricity was definitely used around this time too, check out the Baghdad Battery. Again, 🥳 but couldn’t even do close to what we have now due to material sciences.

[@jebb360]

I like to believe it’s better it was invented later because world relations had time to develop more.

[@zenogias01]

@@It-b-Blair The Baghdad Battery was likely used in electro-plating, that is applying a thin coating of gold/silver to jewelry and other objects. Which is fascinating in and of itself because someone invented batteries just to make shiny rocks even shinier. As a side note, I read a theory once that metal-working was invented as a side effect of making pretty pots. Copper ore produces a lovely blue-green color and, undoubtedly, as a side effect of making potter glazes there would have been hits of smelted copper left over for the potter to mess around with in their free time.

[@abrahamlincoln9758]

Nah, bruh. It's aliens. I mean, not really, but also really.

[@janwerthwein820]

Imagine the other undiscovered devices they made with this same technology.

[@SuperchargedW12]

Right. I believe the Greeks would create a large-scale technological project.

[@MrMoralHighground]

@@SuperchargedW12 geeks more like

[@christiangamer1752]

Devices like this are mentioned in ancient writings. Just ask scholars of classical antiquity on the subject. We knew devices like this existed. We just didn't have any examples that were preserved or survived to the modern day. That's why this was a breakthrough. And the term computer is a little misleading. It's more like a calculator or orrery than what we think of as a computer today. The Greeks did not have modern marvels like the ones we know of, I'm sorry to say. That doesn't mean this device is unimpressive but it's not the high tech wizard device of modern flavor like the video implies.

[@PandemoniumVice]

I imagine there weren't many. This seems like the creation of a particular genius who's work and existence have been lost to time, not something that would have been widely available in any form. This sort of technology I mean, not the computer itself. There was certainly a handful of gear driven mechanisms of course. Like the doors on the temple of Zeus I think it was? Built to open with the pull of a lever from.. I forget, steam or just hot air or something. Point is, it was really cool, and would have left common people in complete awe.

[@christiangamer1752]

@@PandemoniumVice Yes, these devices weren't used by the common folk. They were very expensive. Eventually, any on land would be melted down for other purposes meaning the only ones that could still exist are those that were lost in sea accidents, preserved by the sea, though decayed.

[@reczy]

My grandad was an engineer, he made precision gears and cogs using hand tools. It was incredibly precise work that had very low margins for error. I assume that the ancient Greeks used similar techniques. Which means they would’ve needed precision measuring devices too, such as callipers and gauges. Which then begs the question, how were the measuring devices made? How long had they had *that* technology? What else was lost to the sands of time? What did they know/ discover? Did they lose technology/ discoveries on purpose? It’s mind blowing

[@It-b-Blair]

Well, soon as the Christians came around all that stuff was heresy and devil worship so it got destroyed and the creators crucified. Between them and Islam declaring a war on science…. Yeah, this stuff was kept well hidden. I’d be curious if there’s been any investigation into the ships remains and if they could see if the ship sank due to poor chart reading or foul play (the former seems ironic given what the ship was carrying). Was it being delivered or fleeing from destructive forces?

[@danielslocum7169]

i dont think the ancient greeks made it;i think they found it. i dont think the ancient egyptions built the great pyramid either;rather it was there long before them.

[@thelordoftime803]

@@danielslocum7169 you know we can actually date these objects really well, right?

[@pyongyang5304]

@@danielslocum7169 so therefore, aliens?

[@danielslocum7169]

@@pyongyang5304 very possible;or could be human race was far more advanced even before greeks,romans,egyptions. language may have even been passed down.who knows?

[@CarlosMontesBby]

"If the Greeks had understood their creation they would have reached the moon in 300 years" Imagine that, the burning of the library of Alexandria and the collapse of the Greek empire stunted society and our world in ways we can only begin to fathom.

[@JonathanS344]

So true. It pains me to know how much information and history was lost forever in the burning of the Library of Alexandria. Tryuely saddening.

[@kubectlgetpo]

No need to imagine. People who deny science and willingly ignore facts walk amongst us. The pandemic has shown us that black and white.

[@FoxElliott]

"Greek empire"? Which one? Also, the Library of Alexandria actually wasn't that important. It mainly held astronomical and philosophical documents, which, while important to science, wouldn't be all that useful at the time. Most, if not all, scientific technologies within the library were already in circulation and known by many, of course these teachings and sciences remained localized in the Middle-East for some time, they found their way back to Europe eventually. If you take a timeline where the Library of Alexandria wasn't burned down, you'd still find yourself in one where it was all but abandoned, as membership for it was in peak decline, and the city was likely to fall victim of one tragedy after another. The best scenario is that the library is looted and some ship travel to the Americas comes a few hundred years earlier, but that's about it.

[@JonathanS344]

@@kubectlgetpo Not sure how you managed to link those two topics together

[@JonathanS344]

@@FoxElliott Although you most likely are correct, I wouldn't completely dismiss the information that the library may have retained. Any philosophical information that may have been lost could be important as well as other forms of information such as the way they wrote, language, history, or people that may have been recorded in many of the books. Basically, we'll never know what was lost and that's the unfortunate thing.

[@camhadland6227]

My Granddad is one of the guys who worked on the X-Rays seen in this video! You can see him at 3:15 and 3:24 working with the machine. If I remember, he actually custom-built a good portion of the x-ray used to make the 3D models and was their main x-ray technician. I'll have to fact-check this next time I see him, but it boggles my mind that my family is so closely involved with works of history like these!

[@MuhammadAli-jd2ut]

Wow, that is amazing. Do you have Facebook?

[@brunobucciaratiswife]

Lovely! Small world.

[@CostaGeorge]

You should be very proud to be who you are and wear your last name with pride

[@timetraveler9105]

nice like

[@pl3459]

I mean, anyone can say anything online and pretend but even if it is your grandpa, that really wouldn't mean much, looking at your playlists you're an apocalypse obsessed weirdo lol if that's your grandpa he probably rolls his eyes at you.

[@StrangeScaryNewEngland]

Now, I have to wonder that when this device was completed, wouldn't they have to meticulously set everything to the exact current date, star and moon phases, planet positions etc., for it to be accurate? If that's the case, it would be on a whole other level of mind blowing besides just making the thing in the first place!

[@mrtree1368]

I mean all they had to do was tinker around with how many teeth to put on a gear to make some little indication move around the real hard part is all the planetary gears connecting them all together since it Displayed multiple things

[@SeerSeekingTruth]

The same exact way people invent things today. Contrary to popular ignorance, we didn’t evolve from cave beasts. People now are the same they have always been.

[@BanterMaestro2-y9z]

​@@mrtree1368Figuring the number of gear teeth was not as simple as just tinkering around, but part and parcel of making it all very compact whilst preserving the necessary gearing ratios. For example, if a ratio contains a large prime number, it cannot be reduced to combination of smaller gears without losing some accuracy. One ratio contains 1151, a prime number, but a gear with that many teeth was impractical and would be larger than the machine itself, so they had to find an optimal combination gear that most closely approximated it, yet while remaining compact enough to fit inside the machine. This required some sophisticated mathematics for the time. Some of the gear trains shared the same gears in order to reduce part count, and finding the combinations that worked was no mean feat. A lot very clever mathematics went into this machine.

[@foreigngaming2268]

This is the kind of stuff I wish I would have been seeing when I was still young in school, the large majority of the modern information/science/history I know now is from my own personal research,truly blessed to be able to have so much knowledge at my fingertips

[@matthewvaughan8192]

The reality is we don’t actually *know* a whole lot about the Antikythera mechanism. This video is mostly speculation and quite contentious nowadays - latest research shows Antikythera was used in fortune telling & astrology, not for testing scientific theories - so you can’t expect schools to cover it considering most syllabuses barely have time to cover everything we know for sure about the ancient greeks.

[@troymash8109]

@@matthewvaughan8192 I still remember laughing at my teachers about ancient Egypt. We're fed nonsense by our education system. The erosion on the Sphinx is clearly from massive prolonged rainfall. That sucker is at least 12000 years old.

[@matthewvaughan8192]

@@troymash8109 ‘’The education system is bullshit.’’ - People who didn’t pay attention in school and then go on to become conspiracy theorists & flat-earthers….because they didn’t pay attention in school. Schools don’t teach the Sphinx-erosion hypothesis because there’s little evidence to support it and tonnes to the contrary. But let me guess, you tend only to think of evidence in terms of what you can ‘see with your eyes?’

[@matthewvaughan8192]

@K Sometimes insults are the appropriate response, not that I think my comment was excessively insulting beyond the point I wanted to make. I actually did present an argument. Re-read paragraph 2. That IS an argument. Schools don’t and shouldn’t teach every unsubstantiated hypotheses you’ll read about in quacky books about Atlantis and Ancient Aliens. Just no. & Good for you if that’s actually true; doubt it, but there’s always an exception to the rule. I’m certainly not doubting the education YOU received was bullshit - or you wouldn’t have ended up thinking as you do - which doesn’t by the way mean the entire system is flawed.

[@Flatearth69]

Thanks malfoy. We are blessed to be alive today in the world

[@manny75586]

Many of these ancient devices are astonishing. But to Arthur C Clarke's quote, it's just as astonishing how many times humanity has seemed to pull back from our next leap forward.

[@valenwood6299]

We will never go forward. Not when ALOT of the human population believe there's an invisible man in the sky . We will stay.... feral .

[@freeassociate]

Mainly because “dysgenics” is bunk science, just like eugenics. And you’re kinda proving Clarke’s point - we don’t advance because of the sycophants of pseudoscience.

[@Shendue]

@@priapulida We didn't ignore anything. Actual science has studied and debunked the incidence of dysgenic effects in human population. It's pseudoscience.

[@heresjohnny999]

@@priapulida if you are insinuating what i think you are, then you are a disgrace

[@heresjohnny999]

@@priapulida away back to your Klan rally, idiot.

[@colink4823]

The pyramids etc being attributed to ancient aliens really underestimates the ingenuity of human beings. This video is another example that mankind has progressed by itself

[@DannySullivanMusic]

could not agree more. totally true man

[@kevinmorgan2968]

Don’t sully their ideas of magic my friend. The fact that humans did everything they admire would hurt their need to admire their own orators. I tend towards just burning museums, and hoping I set something new loose.

[@purplehaze2250]

I remember learning about this in middle school, it was a minor blurb in a photo caption and I was always curious to how this hunk of metal was somehow an ancient computer. Amazing to see an explanation today nearly 20 years later!

[@robertpatrick3350]

The skill required to fabricate flat sheets of bronze to cut the gear wheels out of is impressive. It would be interesting to see if the gears are cut by drawing them and cutting or by using a tool which could rotate and cut a tooth at a time? If they could make this then surely they could have made mechanical clocks?

[@nobytes2]

I don't think time was such of an important element to everyday life like today, they cared about days only. Hence why they didn't bother making clocks.

[@asicdathens]

@@nobytes2 Time keeping and clocks are important to any civilization. They had very sophisticated water clocks with gearing ,that would even have birds singing when the hour changes like a cuckoo clock, but a full mechanical clock requires advances in metallurgy and a proper escapement mechanism that was not invented yet. On the other hand, the technological and scientific level of Antikythera device would be equaled again in 1356 almost 1500 years later (the wallingford clock) .

[@KK-pq6lu]

The idea of a clock and a catchment may have been missing. That was quite a breakthrough concept.

[@ohwhatworld5851]

I imagine they would carve moulds and then pour the liquid metal in to them? Would be much easier that cutting the metal sheets.

[@francislililles8360]

might be but they don't really need a precise time-keeping during those times and if they did a sundial would have been more practical

[@kinocorner976]

Everyone is surprised at the fact that the Greeks had this… I am too. However, I’m hell of a lot more impressed that we can 3D scan items and go in depth and simulate them, and read and puzzle the information together. We figured out what this thing was from a clump.

[@acandycrushsagajourney6215]

saurrr trewww

[@puppytooth.v6502]

I'm definitely more impressed by the artifact itself, but I understand your perspective.

[@freakingamerspoint7424]

@@puppytooth.v6502 and i understand and like both of yours perspective, praising the past and getting astounded from the present

[@Adam-vh3zb]

Yeah thing is we can still do all this today because of them😂.I always wonder how humanity would evolve if they wern't extinct

[@nixl3518]

@Mila Brujic Your first point is correct, but your second is not. Arrogance is not confined to any geopolitical perspective. It is a human failing that we all have including you!

[@Real_Iron_Smith]

The existence of stuff like this always fascinates me, and implies that maybe, just maybe, Our ancestors were far more advanced than we remember.

[@bickyboo7789]

Check out Bright Insights two videos on the Eye of the Sahara, aka the Richat Structure. Its some crazy interesting stuff.

[@akioarnold6746]

They were both advanced in their technology and their spirituality. They were far smarter than us. We are the dumbest civilization to ever exist.

[@jameswilliam301]

Why maybe lol it is definitive.

[@RealParadoxed]

Actually the average student knows more than Einstein did

[@beezusHrist]

not really.

[@ItzSeannyy]

That Arthur c Clarke quote tripped me out so hard as I’m smoking never thought of it like that

[@56nickrich]

💨puff💨puff pass

[@BobEstremera]

This generates so many questions: how did they cut and assemble the tiny, clock-like gears? Why didn't this technology lead to other, similar devices and 'calculators'? Why haven't more been found?

[@elmerkilred159]

Metals are often repurposed for things like spear heads, or jewelry, or bullets, or statues... Also, when was the last time you used a landline telephone?

[@Juuk-D]

1. Metals where way more valuable back then (bronze/brass) so it was often repurposed 2. There was no fast traveling or social media to share knowledge fast and easy 3. People spoke different languages and often didn't travel far from their birth place (language barriere) hard to share knowledge if you can't communicate in detail (no google translate) 4. There was not much interest in the space and reasons for things (Gods where made up to explain the unexplained) it's way easier to say "because god" to everything, and explain every question with "god" especially back then where almost everyone was religious, so these precious metals in their eyes had better uses than mapping the solar system. Researchers also believe this "computer" was a gift to a greek lord who was a astrology nerd. these are just my opinions and ideas, because the craftmanship to make something like that without machine precision down to the millimeter and the mathematics is just a combination that was rare. Academy's where a new thing and only a luxury of the wealthy back then and not something widespreed. More than half the world still lived in caves and hunted wild animals with wooden spears, Europe was way advanced than rest of the world with maybe some parts of Asia and Egypt as exceptions

[@johnbidwell2393]

@@Juuk-D This is my take too. Imagine Da Vinci was able to build a successful prototype of his helicopter design, which proves what is possible but would have had limited value compared to modern helicopters because of things like the strength, weight and durability of the available materials at that time, as well as the ability to give it sufficient power. Everybody expresses wonder and bafflement at the invention that is way ahead of it's time and precisely because it's so far ahead of it's time it remains nothing but a curiosity.

[@Zander10102]

Watch clickspring's antikythera series.

[@ambientspacem]

Mabye it was dropped on the sight by an other passing Ship much later and mabye the mechanism belonged to a Swiss clock maker, you cant C14 the mechanism,

[@lemonjuice3551]

Imagining my descendants in 2000 years finally re-discovering how to read the data from a hard drive, only to find that it contains a stash of dank porn.

[@professormoriarty6875]

I don't want to burst your bubble but how do we know it was the Greeks who invented it? They could have found it somewhere else and brought it to Greece. This particular gear wheel was a calendar (there is a documentary about it). The gear wheel itself was actually invented by the Egyptians in Alexandria who, according to ancient scriptures, got the design from the Persians. Before the Greeks "invented" the gear wheel they invaded Egypt. A lot of the inventions the Greeks take credit for are in fact invented in either Persia or Egypt. After Alexander the "great's" conquest of Egypt and Persia a wave of "new" inventions began to appear in Greece. Don't give yourselves too much credit...

[@lemonjuice3551]

@@professormoriarty6875 Yeah! You tell those ancient Greeks old son!

[@flameshoter6]

Sadly, hard drives wouldn't be able to last that long and retain its information. The first issue would be the length of time the hard drive was powered off. The second would be if you could keep it powered on occasionally, like once every few days, it may be able to last for a long time. But the issue is, something with the hard drive would fail before even 500 years. And the last issue would be, after having almost 40-50 people watching over it over their entire lives, there would be a possibility that someone would forget it in a box for decades, especially with age and forgetfulness. Thus information would get corrupted. That is very different from being able to see a 3d scan vs trying to 3d a hard drive to get information within it. Plus a powerful scan could probably ruin everything stored on it. However, if it could be transferred over that time or maintained on the internet, first thing I would think is the possibility of it being my great great great great.... grand parents that have been long gone. Plus it may be used for education purposes, because incubators may be the only method they allow in the future with how crazy people are today.

[@ViolentMLG]

@@professormoriarty6875 Imagine taking a joke so seriously. Ancient Greeks were smart, so were ancient Egyptians, Persians, etc, I mean, they were all within a short distance of one-another. Its not a D-measuring competition, I mean, if it were, the Egyptians surely win, massive pyramids, tombs, etc. Calm your ego, its a cool device, and figuring out its origins is kind of the point.

[@Flow_Runner]

@@professormoriarty6875 jealousy is something you come across very often when it has to do with Greeks.....you just have to swallow it or you may bite your pritty tongue....sometimes that hurts.

[@sangramsingh7747]

In India too our ancestors studied and written about the cosmos for which no one has proved wrong until today.

[@Malicia-scunt]

This is far beyond studying..

[@ivnplaintmodulas2348]

The Ancients where trying to keep from being flooded by high tides, they were very afraid of major changes in the weather, then the time came when the land was lost to the ocean.

[@Lesloi6227]

too true

[@szepenszoloszolo5177]

I am not too surprised. We just seem to assume that all the beautiful Greek buildings, temples, theatres were built (almost) accidentally? They are still standing after thousands of years! Of course the ancient Greeks had sophisticated engineering / mathematical / physics / cosmological knowledge. Hopefully there will be more discoveries like the Antikythera Mechanism.

[@ekon01cz]

Just what I thought. It is no big deal to make gears and found out, how count of tooth is connected with number of turns. I believe they had primitive machines with gears already, so someone just made them little.

[@cookiesandkarim3102]

That’s Science for you

[@greenwave819]

This device was from the 1700s it was from a different shipwreck that happened in the same spot!

[@DR-sv8ke]

No one thinks they were made accidentally. All the things you named are made of stone and marble. Of course they'd last.

[@sundaynightdrunk]

Working with stone goes back much further, as good as the Greeks were at it. A clockwork mechanism for predicting the motion of the cosmos using a sophisticated system of gears and hands is entirely unheard of in artifacts from 2100 years ago. History was completely changed by this discovery; it's just that not many seem to know it.

[@GoodmansGhost]

They didn't mention one of the most astonishing things about this machine. It made accurate predictions one where the stellar objects would be on a given date... while working from the idea that the earth was the center of the universe. There's a longer documentary on the recreation of this object that explains how they managed to work out the movement of all the known planets, sun and moon with a single mathematical equation.

[@davedee6422]

it was going through my mind wether this device was designed with a flat or ball earth in mind and/or wether it would be just as accurate at 180 degrees from greece? what do you think?

[@Theantmang]

every point in the universe is the center of the universe. There is no center technically , so the opposite is also true here where any point in the universe can be the center. Its relative, its a rather neat fact about the universe as well! take a look into it.

[@ajoyandbasantibaksi5236]

Many Greek philosophers espoused the heliocentric ideas as well as a spherical earth. Most obvious case is that of Eratosthenes who in about 200BC (?) got the radius of the earth pretty well right. Pity that someone in 1492 was just so ignorant!

[@zwan1886]

You cannot work out the movement of all known planets sun and moon with a single mathematical equation

[@danielkissgremsperger3242]

​@@davedee6422 most people are far dumber today than the people back then, tousands of years ago finding out the earth is a planet, not a disk. If we lost internet today, our world would be doomed

[@JonnoPlays]

Edit: By popular demand here is the video produced by Stanford University. It is very much worth watching the full 2 hour video. kzbin.info/www/bejne/roi5cmmKmrp-j7c There is another video on this subject which is a presentation given by the team who figured out what the device is and how it works. It's hours long and very technical but if you can stand collegiate material like that the video is simply amazing. It's the best kind of science that simply seeks truth regardless of what it means to our known history. This device really changes everything we know about the ancient world. Who was smart enough to make something like this? Why didn't they write about it more? Who owned it and where was it headed when the ship sank? Were there more devices? Fascinating topic.

[@servicemaster4597]

Link to video?

[@torontoenvironment9899]

If you "can stand collegiate material like that" why are you so ambiguous LMFAO

[@arifulakash6239]

Gimme the sauce of that video

[@NajipAliMunajat]

Link please?

[@hep2022]

Give us the link for god 🍶

[@John_Ridley]

Chris from the KZbin channel Clickspring has built a replica of the device using period construction techniques, all the way down to making his own files and drills from raw metals and making the dividing plates to accurately make the gears. He took a few years off of posting the videos after starting it, I think because he decided to make it a PhD thesis. He's recently started posting the videos again.

[@Lesloi6227]

Wow I’ll be checking that out. Thxs

[@Lesloi6227]

Ive checked that out now and its just FABULOUS. Thanks for the tip

[@LJSW-rp6xm]

It makes me wonder how much further we would’ve advanced as a civilization if this (and possibly more of them) had *not* been lost at sea?

[@xraydoge5430]

It’s like he mentioned, we probably would’ve been reaching for the stars by now

[@thebrowns5337]

I bet a robot STILL wouldn't be doing my job. They keep promising. I keep waiting.

[@AvesZephyros]

@@thebrowns5337 You don't want a robot doing your job for you, because then, you're useless to society and we can get rid of you.

[@BenLA5]

lol u mean, without sky worshippers we would be 2000 years ahead. If u stop progress, things usually don't progress much. Its funny how CONservatives act more like commies than anyone else

[@unrealmagic6519]

@@AvesZephyros Robots can do some jobs but they can't do most

[@johnblack8872]

When the ancient artifact slips through the cracks of control...... imagine how many other artifacts there are like this out their that are hidden away in boxes.

[@kairoro4533]

@DEZZNUTZ 1001 thank you for opening our eyes on global conspiracy deeznuts 1001

[@cloudyns]

@DEZZNUTZ 1001 like what?

[@adhdcartoon3338]

We only need to keep the proof that support our current theories. The rest we can just destroy. That way all evidence wil support what we deem science

[@bgierat]

It is one of the most fascinating items in all of history. The knowledge behind it, the construction of it and to make it work properly with any modern machinery or tools. It’s hard to wrap your mind around this.

[@athreadpool]

I think it was used by the educated class that could predict and dictate religiously significant events to astonish plebs

[@SketchyKirby]

I mean if any 1 of those gears is out of wack, the timing will be off. Even Rolex watches go out of accuracy after few months.. this thing had to been precise

[@Max-px5ym]

​@@SketchyKirbymechanical watches only. Quartz are infinitely more precise

[@Andrei-cp5jr]

This is a great find that shows the brilliance of people millennia ago, but it also shows how everything can be forgotten in time, no matter how great or expensive it is.

[@Andrei-cp5jr]

@@priapulida Sadly most people's decisions are not based on facts, but on feelings.

[@dollarznc]

Imagine giving humans the ability to sit and ponder to invent things instead of force them into labor their entire lives until they die.

[@honkhonk8009]

who do u think gonna do the labour then lmfao.

[@rockmorales]

For real man, here in the U.S you have to work until you die.

[@dollarznc]

@@honkhonk8009 Many countries only have businesses open Mon - Thurs from 10am to 4pm only. Sounds great to me. Why does everyone have to have everything whenever they want it. It's a waste of everyone's lives.

[@RAYTHEONGAMING]

Whoever made this was an absolute certified genius.

[@richjay1565]

Did they have certification back then?

[@Hazzard91]

If they did back in that age, that builder would be the one handing the certs out. This is incredible.

[@joesmith8462]

@@richjay1565 uh Mensa?! Idiot

[@LIONTAMER3D]

no, they were'nt; they were just ancient greeks =/

[@chenyuHu-kf5mi]

It is a sad reminder that some ancients lost their great knowledge

[@joso1195]

This is amazing technology but what is even more amazing, in my opinion, is the technological gap between the civilization that made this device and the civilization that made the device to take 3-D x-ray images of it

[@shakehandswithdanger7882]

A KZbinr by the name "click spring" built one from scratch. Chris seems like a good guy and his series is amazing, it's worth a watch. He uses traditional techniques for parts of the build and even intuits what the workshop that created it would have looked like.

[@deepzone31]

Link? That sounds like a fantastic watch.

[@FuFuberryzzz]

@@deepzone31 kzbin.info/www/bejne/moO7emyBga6geZY

[@Skyblade12]

@@deepzone31 kzbin.info/aero/PLZioPDnFPNsHnyxfygxA0to4RXv4_jDU2 That’s the playlist of the whole video on constructing it, though he has a second playlist that goes into how to make some of the tools used to build it. Because his entire system is trying to replicate how it would have been made in Antiquity.

[@drewsghost.]

I feel like at this point someone in the future has invented time travel and just keeps popping up in the wrong years and is dropping knowledge/technology that keeps changing the timeline

[@sahiljagtap1958]

Could be a possibility 😉

[@Half_Finis]

Nah lol

[@SadEfforts]

Someone’s been watching too much Rick and morty

[@RealParadoxed]

It's actually me, I'm the time traveler

[@drewsghost.]

@@RealParadoxed you mind popping back in time and telling my younger self to buy cryptos lol ?

[@haruruben]

Love this thing, I wonder how many other cool inventions like this were lost to the ages or yet to be discovered

[@marsupialdungbucket]

A few years ago Iooked into the history of the roller chain/bicycle chain and as far as I could see it was invented at least 4 times over a couple of thousand years. It never seemed to develop beyond the single uses it was designed for, such as an ancient Chinese crossbow-loading mechanism. It was only with the industrial revolution and the bicycle that it took off.

[@crabbycreates2943]

I've long held the fantasy that someday an alien spacecraft would be found buried in the desert or on the ocean floor.

[@haruruben]

@@crabbycreates2943 that would be amazing. I often imagined that the UFOs we see are actually probes sent by humans who led an advanced civilization but took off for the stars leaving us primitive tribes behind.

[@hermannabt8361]

There is a book called 'the Scientist in the Early Roman Empire'. It talks a lot about the technology of ancient rome. Like clocks, water organs and a "wind driven carriage"

[@crabbycreates2943]

@@haruruben Hmmm Never thought of that. It would begin to explain what happened to the Incas, Mayans, ancient Chinese, etc.

[@Jonnyjey]

He said if they would have understood the capabilities of what they’ve had created, they‘d have been on the moon within 300 years. But what are those capbilities exactly. Why is it so groundbreaking?

[@Dochorahan]

We are definitely missing huge chunks of significant technological and historical pieces of our timeline. I wouldn’t be surprised if we were way more advanced than we imagined, thousands of years ago, or even hundreds of thousands of years ago.

[@cancel.lgbtq.6892]

The technology that Aliens introduced to us.

[@rafe3028]

@@cancel.lgbtq.6892 ????

[@goforit321]

We had this class that these business people came to and we each had ideas, my idea was regarded as stupid and I got a low grade, basically I said a game boy game system with built in phone and small tv. It may have been stupid but then I think about how advanced cell phones are, and their features. It wasn’t an exact cell phone but I wonder if those business people think back on that “stupid” idea.

[@bonitahill5239]

Yes , the The library of Alexandria .... Hypatia 🥺.... so much knowledge lost ..... ☹️

[@arlynnecumberbatch1056]

@@cancel.lgbtq.6892 aliens being the only answers white colonists can think of when they heard of a "walking" easter island head

[@markring40]

Amazing! I wonder if ancient technological advances were snuffed out by various religious orthodoxies or wars.

[@spymaster3366]

In Greece the culture wasn't affected a lot by the church like western Europe because the priests themselves are greek and greeks knew the value of progress. About wars yes a lot i.e arhemides was killed he had more to offer than just war machines

[@stijnvdv2]

no. It were the Romans that stampeded it. They saw technology for military advances (archimedes planetaria were cleverly used against the greek superstition of red eclipse being a bad omen) but other then that, the Romans weren't very interested in it at all. they saw the greek's study on mathematics and geometry rather as a waste of time; except for Cicero himself that even paid homage to Archimedes' grave and acknowledges the Greeks achievements, yet tells us by his own words that the Romans in general have no interest in them at all.

[@stijnvdv2]

yeah, the Greeks used steam power to automatically open doors of their temples, Archimedes invented a steam power canon 1,5 millennia before the Chinese invented gunpowder.... problem was... Romans came and their notion of mathematics and science was that other then warfare was a useless endeavor. (the famous Roman Cicero pointed this out rather clearly). And then when the Romans got their arse wiped by the Germanic tribes; they had even less interest in the philosophers and knowledge of the old. In fact, funny enough most of what we know of these ancient brilliant Greek philosophers is through the Arab world; as they pretty much were fascinated by the concept of the library of Alexandria and copied it's concept in Bagdad... until they of course got beaten by the Mongols and some Imam rose up that said that work in numbers was the work of the devil; which pretty much ended the golden age of science in the Arab world.

[@yorgosbalian]

Yes to both

[@Crmsnraider]

yes. multiples

[@craig.watson]

Shout out for Clickspring, who is actually manufacturing a working Antikythera mechanism, and is documenting the process on YT, while at the same time contributing to the academic work behind the scenes to discover and challenge what we know about the mechanism - truly inspiring and captivating work!

[@backlash660]

For those who have not yet discovered the amazing Clickspring kzbin.info

[@Bosbulls]

I also wanted to give Chris a of Click Spring a shout out.

[@mturallo]

Any updates from him? I know it's thought he has been busy with publishing new discoveries he's found or something, but I'm ready for some new videos!

[@nepicness]

He’s added another episode

[@arkitson]

This should be the top comment!

[@mr.absolute8556]

now imagine all the other objects that solved problems with technology 1000 years ahead of its time that simply got lost to humanity

[@effievassiliadis6503]

As a Greek i am very proud of my ancestors. When i saw the Antikythyra mechanism at the museum i was overwhelmed by emotions, i was looking at the most brilliant masterpiece of the ancient world.

[@m-train2334]

The most brilliant masterpiece that was discovered, which is very different from the most brilliant masterpiece that existed. It is highly improbable that the most advanced piece that the ancient world produced was also one of the few artifacts of millions that was spared by the ravages of time. It is also highly improbable that it was the only copy. In other words, we may be seeing their rotary phone when they had iPhone 20s.

[@effievassiliadis6503]

@@m-train2334 Very true,well said!

[@SimpleLifeAlways81]

Many cultures had their own technology. Native Americans, even. We all had something going on.

[@effievassiliadis6503]

@@SimpleLifeAlways81 of course all races had their own civilizations and we respect all cultures. We are talking about ancient civilizations when speaking about Greeks, Egyptians,Chinese because they are the oldest and had invented incredible technologies in all science fields.

[@TonyOG100]

Right it is a Greek invention. Meanwhile all these other dumb people are getting thousands of likes on comments. These people aren’t greek at all and are saying it’s there ancestors. In addition they are calling greeks at this time uneducated when the history books speak other wise. Don’t forgot the shitty super popular youtuber chris ramsay denies this invention smh go report his oldest robot video for misinformation

[@novalone3211]

Picturing a replica of this that works, next to the display of the remains, is really cool to me.

[@DrShempTV]

on the other hand, it isn't all that surprising that the inventors of modern mathematics made a mathematical machine that operated on the laws of mathematics. incredibly impressive nonetheless but i think that people tend to downplay how advanced ancient civilizations actually were. an advanced civilization doesn't mean blue jeans and steam engines alone.

[@themysticalwanderer36]

‘History has been written, rewritten, edited and then written again!’

[@BertisAU]

The CNN playbook

[@marvwatkins7029]

Humanity isn't smarter than in ancient times, just more knowledgeable.

[@jjgebarowski]

Exactly..... a conversation with someone from 10,000 years ago could be just as enlightened and interesting as if the person were around today.

[@bhargi4692]

I doubt more knowledgeable, so much has been hidden from us, we may actually be much more dumb

[@grandmastermud]

Not true. The average IQ has risen a ton

[@AJanae.]

Yep it’s why we’re called the “Information Age”…

[@brandex2011]

​@@AJanae. The label "Information Age" is based on volume and reaction. Large swaths of the "information" that we consume is incorrect or misleading. And much of the "information" that we consume is propagated to satisfy an agenda.

[@TheBjjninja]

Well it was found on a ship wreck so they need such a device to not only predict when to travel but probably help with the navigation at the current time

[@soundseeker63]

The computer its self is amazing. But equally amazing, though not mentioned, is the precision craftsmanship and production techniques they must have had at that time to make such a machine. It lookes like it was made by robots, but it must have been made by hand.....how did they do that!? And if they were able to produce this, what other devices of similar refinement, precision and sophistication existed at the time? It is mind blowing on so many different levels!

[@TD-np6ze]

What about the Ring Engravings that were used as Official Seals in Mesopotamia? The exacting details were so extremely tiny. How could they have tools small enough when the images had to be magnified many times to just see their details?

[@soundseeker63]

@@TD-np6ze I was not aware of this...wow, another bit of sophisticated ancient tech that poses many, many questions!

[@TD-np6ze]

@@soundseeker63 Extremely sophisticated astronomical tools and observation throughout distinct and far-reaching areas of Ancient World.... Yet, according to Andrew Robinson recent book on "Writing and Script" -- the written instructions are completely unique and mostly indecipherable?

[@TD-np6ze]

@@soundseeker63 Happy New Year, my newly found Utube friend! Yes, so very many great mysteries -- like the similarities in Ancient Myths of the Great Flood... And so many others! Perhaps, human existence on earth goes in cycles that are Beyond Our Comprehension of TIME and Space?

[@BraulioSchiffino]

Highly precision in metal bending and crafting were the expertise of pre-Columbian south american civilization in what's Peru-Bolivia-Chile today (the Inkas), which were mostly isolated from the other western civilizations up until the colonization of America. Although not used for intricate tools such as gears, they were able to make small threads of gold and other metals for things such as cerimonial armors and weapons. The Spaniards were, by registered accounts, amazed by their knowledge and sophistication in their metal crafts. Maybe it's not that far-fetched that another ancient people were able to be that crafty and sophisticated.

[@danielwhyatt3278]

I remember first hearing about this incredible world first computer a couple of years ago now, and it’s incredible that we are still learning so much from it and are going to create an even more accurate model. We will probably never know who first created this level of technology, but it completely changes our entire perception of where things started altogether. Who knows what we could have achieved of this and continue to develop. The biggest question of all though is, what happened all those many centuries ago that caused everything to stall so dramatically and force us to start again in the more recent centuries.

[@sloaiza81]

What happened all those centuries ago is the same thing that is happening now. And it has always happened. Those in control monopolize knowledge. Thats why we have flat earthers Even today. The goal is never to educate the masses. The goal is to control them.

[@Clarit3]

I guess Greeks were more science oriented while the following civilizations (romans, barbars...) way less more and they slowly wiped most of the science knowledge of the ancient greeks. Then the dark age, religious wars and plagues came and the rest is history.

[@legobrickabrac]

It's a clock.

[@mitjed]

Maybe because of the bronze age collapse, something happens that made it collapsed. Maybe the royalty of Greece, Egypt and the Hittites left earth and went to another solar system.

[@jamespereira9325]

One of the main cause was religious superstition

[@petergedd9330]

I dont think its astonishing at all, its just that our ego today is much larger and complacent, that we fall backwards in shock at anything complicated in the distant past. We focus too much on our mind, and have left the heart behind, not realising that it is in fact the driver of our car.

[@elitecoder955]

Truly inspiring , this is soo inspiring to many engineers . Crazy how if this technology wasn't lost with the fall of Greece then we'd be far ahead from what we have in our current generation

[@elitecoder955]

@@priapulida agreed

[@tedbanning9090]

It wasn't totally lost. The early Islamic civilization continued the tradition of making clockworks and even automata. Europeans conveniently tend to ignore Islamic science.

[@AL-nv4gk]

What technology mere speculation and wasted time distraction, serves no purpose unless you can suggest one.

[@afos88]

@@tedbanning9090 "Islamic" ""science"" lol

[@fenixfelixx]

​@AFoS KuZaNaGi Hey it takes a real scientist to properly determine which way a woman's head will roll onto the ground after she gets it lopped off for not wearing a carpet around her head everywhere she goes.

[@guillermoa.nerygomez8782]

People that have learnt about the history of Science know that about 200 years BC greeks (see Erathostenes) measured the size of the Earth, the distance to the Moon (and thus also knew it's true size) and an approximate distance to the Sun (and we how they did these, with relative ease). These greeks developed math and geometry, logical thinking, theater, art and architecture, and "simple machines", among others, to fairly recent levels. So it is surprising to learn about the Antikythera mechanism, but at the same time it isn't too surprising.

[@guillermoa.nerygomez8782]

@Buddy They contributed to Maths and Geometry at least around 500 BC and closer. Look up Pythagoras of Pythagoras' Theorem fame (a^2 + b^2 = c^2 where c is the length of the hypothenuse and a and b are the lengths of the legs of the right triangle made up of those three sides).

[@Chris.Davies]

@Buddy Maths had been around for far longer. We're talking trigonometry, and so forth here.

[@Chris.Davies]

@NITERAGERS You are pathetic in your delusions. Go search for Santa Claus. Or the Easter Bunny.

[@Chris.Davies]

@Buddy More intellectual garbage.

[@anchorread68]

Ancient civilisation have expertise & knowledge but their civilisation is unstable and kept collapsing; the roman itself collapses and followed by medieval ages which nobody practices roman democracies or mathematic prowess (until the Enlightenment). Many previous civilisation have mathematical expertise, like those who built pyramids to align with the constellation in the sky, but they had same fate as the Romans.

[@A1BASE]

I highly, highly recommend the youtube series by Clickspring where he rebuilds this machine from scratch. It's incredible. During the process he was discovering new ways the ancient Greeks might have created such a device and wrote academic papers on the subject.

[@lancer525]

Did he ever finish the thing? The last one I saw was Episode #11 and that was over four months ago... Hope he's okay and still working on it. That was one video series that when the episode ended, I was disappointed that it didn't go on longer! It is that good!

[@mangopudding5979]

This computer never belonged to Greeks or Romans. Greeks and Romans were never advanced civilizations, Greeks and Romans were civilized by other Civilizations. This computer belongs to other civilizations either Mesopotamian, Egyptian or Indian civilization. Greeks copied everything from other civilizations. Greeks learnt everything from other civilizations. So yeah, you should be definitely surprised.

[@mariafoivi3599]

@@mangopudding5979 You sound very biased so I cant really take you seriously. No need to tear anyone down, all the civilizations you mentioned were brilliant.

[@KingRidley]

@@mangopudding5979 if they didn't make it, it didn't belong to them. Doesn't matter if their knowledge was the basis for its construction if someone else used that knowledge to construct this. Did a different culture construct this before the Greeks?

[@jamesbarlow6423]

Saw it. Another blowout.

[@AndorranStairway]

Whoever invented the mechanism must have been a well known name back in the day, but now their name is lost to time

[@stap_5191]

Someone should make a film about this. The story of a man in Ancient Greece developing an ancient computer who has a mission to take it across sea to continue his research but unfortunately gets killed at sea along with his "computer". BUT in the movie they could change the ending and have him be killed at sea but his computer survives. A fellow traveller discovers this treasure chest and sells it to a library where a scientist discovers and understands what this man was building. Fast forward 300 years later and the world is a completely different place and the technology we have now was discovered much earlier. Very interesting.

[@noahwhitehawk3405]

Go pitch it to Hollywood. Haha

[@Newfoundmike]

Good movie

[@emmarose4234]

It sounds like it should be a segment for the next Fantasia movie.

[@genshin.sonata]

imagine if turns out, we're living in the day where everything got restarted back to the ancient era, while that machine was made when this world already so advanced in terms of technology back there, it would be mind blowing

[@anakonda8197]

That is very possible. More evidence towards it coming out constantly.

[@jessicag630]

It's fascinating to take a peek and really see archaeologists working and unraveling life and technology from ancient times in videos like this.

[@nickwilliams6621]

If the Library of Alexandria didn't burn down, there wouldn't be any need for *unravelling* because we'd already know how it works and what it was for.

[@just_a_curious_thinker]

And when we tell you that flying machines existed in ancient India...... you discard them by calling them *myth* Even the whole mathematics & knowledge of Ayurveda was invented in ancient india. You can find evidences of Brain surgery & open-heart surgery on some age-old papers which didn't rot for thousands of years. There were also arrows which were described to be mass destructive (which could have been some sort of nuclear technology) But due to numerous wars, cultural solubility & Nepotism in Knowledge sharing all of these led to disappearance of all of the ancient knowledge. Not only in India, but ancient China, Japan, Iraq-Iran, Egypt have various kinds of ancient mysteries. I mean it might be possible that humans were technologically advanced at some point of time then everything got reset due to reasons unknown.

[@MrBrock314]

@@nickwilliams6621 Among many other things. Humanity has a distinct habit of being short-sighted in this regard. Wars trumped literally everything, still do.

[@Hifcrea]

@@nickwilliams6621 all the knowledge is being held and guarded by secret societies and the Vatican etc

[@brick7113]

can it run doom

[@Mylifeisabysmal]

Anything can run doom with the right stuff 😈

[@thinkingmonkey3290]

Maybe it ran and then came the doom.

[@Sameer-zy3hx]

@@thinkingmonkey3290maybe the real doom was the friends we made along the way

[@THansenite]

Whenever I hear about the Antikythera mechanism, I can't help but hear, "G'day, Chris here....." I love seeing videos about this mechanism. I became fascinated when Chris from Clickspring started building one of these. It is a pretty amazing project.

[@Skyblade12]

I always hope we’ll get more videos from him. When he finally revealed his latest discovery and the paper he wrote on it, I was hopeful it would pick back up. The Clips channel is nice, but I miss his voice.

[@kaygeebee]

This discovery is a double edge sword to me and a warning for the future. My guess is there has always been vast intelligence and inventiveness in the human species but also enough stupidity, superstition, and sheer vindictiveness as well to destroy and suppress progress. Looking at events of the last twenty years, I am now convinced it would be easy to slide back into oblivion. I give us a less than 50/50 shot at making it, and still there will always be risks.

[@maboleth]

Exactly. But that can also possibly be ,,normal``, in a sense that black/white, push/pull, yin/yang forces always *need* to coexist. Maybe we will not see the fruits of our labor, but next generations will (unless we don't destroy ourselves, but *some* will surely survive).

[@HelloOnepiece]

Opening you regular history books is not enough for this realization? Civilizations come and, just as their knowledge, progress only took a somewhat linear form in recent histot thanks to globalism, and even know there are huge differences on the planet

[@alexclark4792]

Just think of where humanity would be if religion didn't suppress science and technology for hundreds of years. The epitome of superstition.

[@lightningstock]

@@alexclark4792 That is an ignorant thing to say. Most of the giants of science were religious and believed in a creator... Newton, Pascal, Galileo, Bacon, Kepler, Copernicus, Einstein, and on and on. That belief is what drove those fathers of science to search for answers and to understand the nature of creation around them. Standing on the shoulders of giants, you are proclaiming the suppression of science, when in fact these men of faith were upholding the creation through their work. Many atheists make the lazy mistake of conflating the twisted religion of the Catholic Church with the actual truth of God & creation. They are not the same thing and never will be. The Catholic Church's influence over the centuries has simple minded people like yourself thinking that belief in God equals the Catholic version of God. The truth of God is diametrically opposed to most of what the Catholic Church teaches since they misrepresent what is in scripture to con both believers and non-believers. So to your original point, the public ignorance in creation is actually what has held humanity back in the past and continues to hold humanity back today.

[@alexclark4792]

@@lightningstock The catholic church isnt the only religion that supresses its people. Every monotheistic religion believes their god is the only god. The truth of god is that there is no god. Religion isnt the only thing that has held humanity back, I was just pointing out that religion does a good job of it.

[@merlin6955]

It's truly amazing to have found such a magnificent device, even more so to appreciate that scholars had such astronomical knowledge, they could design and then manufacture such an intricate device. The sadest part is how was that knowledge lost.

[@sprintershepherd4359]

it and many other technologies and knowledge got lost with the downfall of the roman civilisation just like all the knowledge we have lost from destroying and not valuing indigenous peoples cultures eg aboriginal Australian Asian african and America not to mention everywhere else in the world and all the historical civilisations and cultures through wars and invasion . just because they were not valued and understood

[@Xamy-]

@Mizchiknz 101 oh shut do be quiet you antivaxxer. We all know what you are trying to get at by mentioning mandates, stop grasping at straws.

[@WilliamParkerer]

@@sprintershepherd4359 The Romans conquered and destroyed the Greek civilization, which was much more advanced than them, so it's not really fair to sympathize the collapse of the Romans.

[@WilliamParkerer]

@@BeautifulGreen252 Being advanced in technology, unless exponentially advanced, doesn't guarantee a strong military defense. The Roman Empire was a centralized regime focused on military power compared to the Greeks. Likewise, the Roman Empire was defeated by the "barbarians" not because the tribes were more advanced than them too.

[@lt3742]

wohoo you understood guys the history is a lie that we have been taught to and Jesus Christ is going to pass judgements on this wicked earth soon, congratulations guys! :D now please give Jesus what is His, that is you! repent from sins and accept Him as Master and your savior, believe the gospel! and start a relationship with Him!

[@OctaviaTipton]

I like seeing all the comments about ancient technology’s just being forgotten over all this time. What if the technology was purposely forgotten/hidden. Makes more sense.

[@-Princesse-]

I remember reading about this an old book called "We Are Not The First" by Andrew Thomas. I was able to get my hands on a copy of it and was shocked. Here are some of the titles of the chapters: "novelties in antiquity" "from temples and forums to atomic reactors" "electricity in the remote past" "they conquered space long before we did" Among many others just as fascinating. This topic is also discussed by two great teachers named LA Marzulli and Ryan Pitterson. They explain how, why, and where this technology came from. Truly great and worth checking out.

[@Outrjs]

As in the days of Noah. They were technologically advanced far beyond today. But, what was said about them? They were exceedingly evil in the sight of the Lord God. Jesus said when he would return... As in the days of Noah.

[@Read-YAHs-WORD]

@@Outrjs I agree

[@kasturipillay6626]

Sara thanks for the info. Gonna check this out

[@kasturipillay6626]

Outray your one book has no scientific evidence or knowledge of technology

[@colemancalgary5260]

@@UUT4S what are you bitchin about?

[@Ugapiku]

When he said we could be exploring closest stars that broke my heart... I wish it was happening now...

[@charlesarmstrong5292]

Amazing, cant think of a better word. Almost mind boggling to realise the level of this technology 2000 years ago. Thanks for this BBC.

[@6figureceleryjfs378]

Lmao. Thanks for this bbc. Haaaaa

[@Tetricus01]

This artifact was in the latest Indiana Jones movie.

[@daves2822]

In my opinion the mechanism is one of many things people of the past knew. All the knowledge lost in the library of Alexandria, ancient flamethrower that didn't extinguish in water that were armed on sailing vessels, among others.

[@CelibateCetologist]

Roman concrete too.

[@herbert42069]

Oil

[@herbert42069]

​@@CelibateCetologist volcanic ash in the mix. Italy is filled with it

[@Luckyluke870]

For god sake it was just a normal library it don’t hold the worlds knowledge lmfao 😂

[@khelus123]

It's amazing how modern humans always say things like "this shouldn't exist" and not "we have apparently been wrong about technology of that time". It's like we refuse to learn by being wrong.

[@samuelshepard]

This field is an extremely conservative field. Another example is "here's Sappho and Lesbos. They were best friends and only friends"

[@omarchaudhry7505]

calm down it's just a clickbait title.

[@Luca48882]

@@samuelshepard friends worth dying for

[@BeneGesseritSaya]

Because we are pompous animals! We think we are so special and intelligent when in reality we are rouge parasites that develop technology to our own detriment over and over historically. Haha…we are just animals in a suit and tie 😂

[@ShieldStun]

because this was not made by greeks lol , probably from Atlantis

[@user-tz5uq2bt1s]

This gave me goosebumps. It's the sort of thing you would have seen in a fantasy version of the ancient world.

[@DavidCurryFilms]

Yeah it's like something from a steampunk fiction - but no, the Greeks really could make a thing this advanced 👌.

[@LIONTAMER3D]

egyptians had electric light fixtures & refrigerators; the romans took the concept of "pluming" to new hights =/

[@steampunksamuraii]

Technically, a machine like this should not surprise us as much as it does. We use the work of ancient greek mathematicians to calculate our structures and machines, so why would these ancient greeks not be able to do something similar?

[@bbb462cid]

This device didn't spring up from nowhere, and it didn't exist in a vacuum. It was the result of a lot of work and probably represents more than one lifetime's work. More than one person knew of it when it was created, certainly.

[@mtaylor7307]

Yet it wasn't re-created. Why?

[@bbb462cid]

@@mtaylor7307 Who says it wasn't? That's quite an assumption you're making. The one we know of eluded discovery for quite a long time. But let's say it is the only one made. Do you know how to drive a car? Good, excellent. Do you know how to build a car from nothing?

[@tacotacotington3638]

@@mtaylor7307 Could have easily been destroyed by others who thought it was heresy.

[@Social_Pugatory]

Exactly and the Greeks weren’t a secluded society think of the trading of goods, ideas and technologies that inspired this and all of the possible things we don’t know about. Who’s to say this device was their technological peak. We know due to wars and conflicts it was common for conquerors to defaced, destroy and demonize such things.

[@spencerlukay5809]

It makes me wonder how much modern society has hindered itself technologically at the expense of profits (eg: lightbulbs that last a lifetime have been a thing for a while, but one can sell more if they are designed to break quickly.)

[@roguexxrenegade]

Take a look at iPhones. They keep making them thinner and thinner (despite nobody asking for a paper thin cell phone), fitting all that advanced technology into a tiny space. Only for them to break *that* much easier.

[@hamdog8872]

Chemotherapy.

[@avizzy1237]

You should listen to the Planned Obsolescence episode of the Stuff you should Know podcast. They dive into this concept very nicely!

[@seelfire4725]

capitalism. keep people stavring so they have to pay for food. just look at the vaccines for covid, not shared with the world because of pofits.

[@roguexxrenegade]

@@seelfire4725 It literally is being distributed globally by the US though

[@jguitar23]

Human brains weren't really different then. Why should it be so surprizing that these machines existed then?

[@starshipgus8578]

I don’t believe the antikythera mechanism is the only one that exists,the trade in the Mediterranean was extensive in ancient times.We just got lucky to discover this one.Who knows what other science treasures may be there.I’m from Greece and I can tell you there are lots of ruins under Athens and the surrounding suburbs,proof of that is the subway revealed plenty,when the tunnels were dug,they’re also found when they’re digging foundations for a new building,and the excavators hit ancient artifacts.

[@BUSTRCHERRI]

I've got one of these units collecting dust in my closet if anyone's interested. Mint condition....first $50 takes it.

[@starshipgus8578]

@@BUSTRCHERRI keep it there ,in another thousand years will be worth $100

[@lpjunction]

These thing ain't produced in China, neither Alibaba nor Amazon have it in stock. You need state of the art astronomer to design, mechanical engineer who don't have a BridgePort to manufacture. I would think such machine is rare. Also, if it was found in the shallow waters, an uneducated fishman would take the scrape to sell it at price of bronze for a better dinner that evening.

[@finalfantasy3808]

I'm reposting this here too: There's ancient writings about fallen angels giving technology to mankind and they are still doing it now. 4th Generational witch doctor Vagalas Kanco saw an underwater city where scientists come up with new technology decades before they ever appear on earth: "The mysterious sea city is filled with surprises but it is also very scientific. For example, whenever I wanted a cup of coffee, I'd just press a button and it would appear immediately. Many inventions are devised here. I saw computers here before they ever appeared on earth. There are also well equipped research centers for sorcerers where their scientists, doctors, and mechanics work. Some of these people are working consciously and some do so consiously. Many things that we see in the world are manufactured by sorcery"."The Witchdoctor and the Man: City Under the Sea", page 44 There's a demon possessed woman with a purple shirt on youtube who channeled a demon called "The Tibetan". The Tibetan demon said this: "Pan, Lemuria, and Atlantis were not successful, but this one will be" She was talking about these satanic civilizations where they attempted a new world order on the whole world, but they were destroyed. When she said "but this one will be", she means this age, our generation will be successful in having a one world order where Lucifer is god of the entire world. A former Illuminatist named Svali said that Atlantis was a race of highly enlightened people who used advanced technology that was given to them by supernatural means because the Atlanteans were Luciferians. But one day a prophet of their enemy, (a prophet of the God of the Bible) told them that if they didn't change their ways, then they would be destroyed. So they laughed at the prophet and killed him. And then Atlantis was eventually lost. There is nothing new under the sun. The beginning of creation is detailed in Genesis, and the end is written in Revelation. Judging by these prophecies, I'd say we are in the end times, especially because Microsoft already patented the mark of the beast. This is the technology that's coming. It's an implantable microchip. This is why you hear stories of people who claim to have been implanted with a Triangle shaped metal after they were paralyzed and abducted by aliens. These were demons perfecting the mark of the beast. Former Illuminatist John Todd said his sister was a high priest in Ohio. She would summon demons on a hill and laugh at the people down below because they looked up pointing at orbs in the sky and thought they were UFOs 🛸 , but they were just demons playing games in the sky. These fallen angels (demons) pretended to be God's back then, creating all false religions, and now they are claiming to be extraterrestrials. They are the same fallen angels that God kicked out of heaven, the same ones worshipped as gods back then, the same ones written in the scrolls of Enoch who gave technology to mankind, the same ones who appear in many forms like Grey aliens with almond shaped eyes, the same pleaidians, spirit guides and ascended masters that mediums contact through seances, the same ones who will be thrown in the lake of fire on the day of Judgement. They were once beautiful beings of light, but when they fell they became hideous creatures of darkness. The reason they give technology is because they want you distracted from your true purpose, and fallen in sin because they are angry and bitter that Jesus died only for us and forgives us of our sins but Not them, Jesus left them all to perish because they were the first that sinned and had no tempter. IF Jesus had shed his blood in the form of an angel, then he could have saved them, but He only came in the seed of Abraham, a human being. And Jesus is not doing that again. So get right with Jesus while you are still alive on earth and have chance to repent because this is the only life you get and once you die, Jesus can't help you because He is not the God of the dead, only the living. You must be alive for his blood to be applied to your account. Here's an ancient writing from the Scroll of Enoch. He's the 7th descendant of Adam, he never physically died because God took him (and one of his prophecies is referenced in Jude 1:14). He wrote about how the fallen angels taught mankind technology: "1Moreover Azazyel taught men to make swords, knives, shields, breastplates, the fabrication of mirrors, and the workmanship of bracelets and ornaments, the use of paint, the beautifying of the eyebrows (eyelids), the use of stones of every valuable and select kind, and all sorts of dyes, so that the world became altered. 2Impiety increased; fornication multiplied; and they transgressed and corrupted all their ways. 3Amazarak taught all the sorcerers, and dividers of roots: 4Armers taught the solution of sorcery; 5Barkayal taught the observers of the stars, (9) [(9) Observers of the stars. Astrologers (Charles, p. 67).] 6Akibeel taught signs; 7Tamiel taught astronomy; 8And Asaradel taught the motion of the moon, 9And men, being destroyed, cried out; and their voice reached to heaven."-Enoch, Chapter 8

[@emmioglukant]

@@finalfantasy3808 .

[@MrKFNeverGiveUp]

The ancient Pagans were highly intelligent. They gave us so much when you think about it.

[@mikewa2]

You don’t just suddenly develop a sophisticated machine like this. If this could be made then so would a lot of other machines! That’s just common sense. A lot more to this find than we know.

[@danielslocum7169]

very true.

[@polskaoperator376]

No?? There was probably hundreds of years of development behind this...

[@LegoGBlok]

@@polskaoperator376 Indeed. No one invents, builds these things out of thin air, or we as the race have seriously de-evolved.

[@mikewa2]

@@polskaoperator376 OK - so where are all the other machines? And where are all the sophisticated tooling needed to make such a machine. We have only developed accurate lathes etc in the last 3 hundred years. As i said there is a lot more to this.

[@polskaoperator376]

@@mikewa2 "Yea man, where's the first sticks that humans sharpened and fire-hardened??? What's that? You say they didn't survive and that's typical of technology made before year 400, Whatever man, as I said there is a lot more to this" The gears are most cast, even if they aren't the idea that humans 2,500 years ago couldn't make a good enough lathe with the knowledge of the time is absurd.

[@ccox2823]

What amazes me the most is how all of the ancient civilizations seem to had a clear and deep understanding about the connection between the human being and the cosmos (Greeks, Egyptians, Inkas, Mayas, Chamanic tribes, you name it). One would of thought that this understanding naturally would of keep progressing/evolving over time but it seems to me that exactly the opposite is true, I believe somewhere along the way for who knows which reasons we lost our track, just look at how today's society is so alianated with this way of seeing/understanding life. Yes we've come a long way in so many fronts (tech, med, culture, etc.) but I personally believe that if we keep on a regression regarding this stuff, as a species we're just doomed to fail.

[@jennifercrane4677]

Devolution.

[@RobJT]

As a civilisation we have far more understanding now. It’s only individuals who don’t, and it’s their own choice to be ignorant.

[@PDD555]

Makes me wonder if we knew our origins back then but now we don't

[@skyking4557]

Well,the Thing we discovered is Tiny fraction of artifact leave by some people,rather than the Society itself(we can only predict it using the artifact and written hustory which has many Error),ignorance is more crazy in the past shown by how they alienated People when they had a bit different trait than their people

[@lancer525]

It's the price we pay because of religions impeding our natural thinking. People shut off their minds when deities are brought into the picture.

[@dizzlx4662]

What a great monologue at the end. 4:54 can you imagine what the world would be like on that technological timeline. Very profound point about the zigs and zags of technological advancement. We truly can lose progress as a species. Technologies once enjoyed by all can be relegated to memories, relics, and artifacts.

[@merciatreasurehunting6244]

Probably a navigation device for cloudy nights

[@salamanca1954]

The person or team of people who made this computer must have known A) how to make it, and B) understand and have access to the astronomical knowledge that it calculates, to a fine degree, and how to encode it in the machine. It is spectacular.

[@anitarose1122]

Possibly archimedes

[@mediamannaman]

Yeah, good point. This was the culmination of multiple disciplines collaborating to design and build the device. That period had their own DaVinci's, Koeplers, Newton's, Einstein's, and von Brauns. And then we lost that technology for millenia due to wars and new empires being built. Makes me wonder if our current technology advances are in danger of being lost with today's global climate.

[@DannySullivanMusic]

totally. _100%_ correct dude

[@simongarrettmusic]

Not if you read up on it.

[@EthanAdey]

It’s called Semen Retnetion, after 80 day you start to become big brain

[@1981billiam]

There have been so many extinction level events. Ranging from nature and human intervention, so much has been erased from history. I love discovery.

[@joejoejoejoejoejoej]

Deliberately!!!!!

[@greekperspective2076]

They had knowledge of the solar system. It’s amazing to me why public school history teaches us that civilization only knew about the solar system for a few hundred years. They have ancient Sumerian tablets with depictions of all the planets around the Sun. Astronomy and knowledge of planets and seasons for thousands of years.

[@victoriabaker4400]

Stonehenge and many other stone- and earthworks around the globe are built so that on a particular day of the year (usually the winter solstice but sometimes the spring equinox), the sun shines through an aperture built such that only on that day does the sun reach it. That is very complicated, and proves how much was known.

[@iamnormal8648]

Because of the Anglo Saxons. When the British Empire was at its peak it influenced a lot of what is being taught as history nowadays. The core of the program is to glorify certain people and demolish others (those who are not in the in-club)

[@kingacrisius]

We've only had widespread acceptance of the heliocentric view for a few hundred years. Civilizations have known about the solar system for several centuries before that. Either your teachers lied to you, or you are simply misremembering what they said. It's likely that they just told you when many civilizations switched from geocentric to heliocentric.

[@greekperspective2076]

@@kingacrisius not true western education teaches us that the solar system was only recognized for a few hundred years. But clearly you have civilizations depicting our solar system in their history for thousands of years. My point is that ancient civilizations going back to before Christ were aware that we were in a solar system. But we are told that Copernicus figured this out in the 1500’s and so it’s thought in western education this way. Which goes back to the idea that only the west discovered everything. The west couldn’t give credit to the sumarians no no no that would mean that Asia knew about it before us and we can’t lose our superiority can we?

[@jumanuman7311]

@@greekperspective2076 wrong, they knew those bodies existed but not what they were. They just thought they were stars circling around our world, and not planets circling with us around a sun.

[@MediaArchive2-z9f]

Indiana Jones and The Dial Of Destiny of course brought me here. 😊