BC Faller Training Standard - Bucking (17 of 17)

[@worksafebc]

Find information and resources on manual falling & bucking here: www.worksafebc.com/en/health-safety/industries/forestry/types/manual-falling-bucking

[@ss229er7]

Are these 17 videos available in text format anywhere? These are an invaluable resource! I’ve learned a ton from them.

[@worksafebc]

@@ss229er7 Please see this resource online - there's a Part 1 & Part 2: www.worksafebc.com/en/resources/health-safety/books-guides/bc-faller-training-standard/part-1?lang=en

[@tonyalways7174]

Hard dangerous and ugly work in rough country and arduous conditions. These guys earn every cent they get and deserve twice as much IMO. Respect to all of them

[@bl9531]

I think you have to have done some logging to appreciate just how hard and dangerous it is. These men also are under a lot of pressure to produce as quickly as possible

[@janfilipczyk2994]

Jedno z nejlepších videí, které jsem zde shlédl. Většinou se tyto videa zabývají kácením stromů, které stojí, což myslím je jednodušší než řezáním kmene stromu, který spadl. Nikde jsem tu neviděl tak dobře vysvětleny ty dvě sily u spadlého stromu: komprese a tenze /compression and tension/ a jednoduché, poměrně rychlé prořezání kmene s uvědoměním si toho, co dělám. To je u každé práce nejdůležitější - uvědomit si, co dělám a co se stane. Když člověk neví, co se stane, obvykle špatně dopadne. To platí obzvláště u kácení stromů a další prořezávání kmene. Relativně dosti časo v lese přijdou o život lidi, kteří tam pracují roky. Proč? Nebojí se, nemají představivost, tehdy, kdy je toho zapotřebí? Obvykle člověk, který nemá představivost, se nebojí.

[@adelarsen9776]

Thank you WorkSafeBC for creating this valuable content for the world to enjoy and learn from. I found this series thorough and complete. Thank you.

[@anlissantomodachi1599]

This is a good instruction video. Calm, clear instructions. Nice graphics. And the guy is wearing all necessary protection gear: helmet, eye protection, ear protection, chain saw trousers, safety shoes. And he is using the brake to walk around safely. Thumbs up!

[@imustbegettinolder4434]

I'm getting kinda long in the tooth and I'd just like to say I have nothing but respect and admiration for those working in the logging industry.

[@laurencelance586]

Grandfather worked timber in northern British Columbia in the 1920s, but he never talked much about it and he never showed me the exceptionally important lessons taught here. Thyank you, BC Faller Training.

[@DriftmanX]

I don’t think the average person who’s never worked with a saw realizes how heavy the saws in this training video are. These are definitely some strong.

[@elonmust7470]

I ran ms660s with 32" bars, about 30lbs full of fluids. I can't imagine running a 100lb saw like the old timers did...

[@georgegucchi3680]

At 6:45 He hits the chain brake instinctively as he walks away. Good safe practice.

[@jankodera5811]

Basic cut : top bind 5:45 Bottom bind 7:06 Bucking: top bind 9:10 oversized tree, bottom bind 11:23 Heavy bind, top bind 16:06

[@svtirefire]

I don't speak much Canadian, but these videos are still very insightful. Thank you

[@DrJohn493]

I've been felling and bucking trees (for firewood and sawing lumber on a portable sawmill) up to 3 feet in diameter since high school, never had a lesson, and its a wonder I haven't been seriously injured or worse. Although I've taught myself a lot over the years, I really regret not having the kind of training depicted in this video and others by WorkSafeBC. They produce some of the best instructional videos I've seen for both professionals and nonprofessionals alike. You're never too old or too experienced to keep learning and re-learning.

[@flutist218]

Thank you British Columbia for this wonderful training series--from someone in Philadelphia.

[@Crunchifyable2]

After watching this I have a bit more appreciation for Canadian Lumber. People risking their lives so I can buy a $3 2x4.

[@Musicpins]

Sorry to break it to you but thats not because of the traditional manual lumber jack, they sit in machines now ;)

[@nakulah]

Martin Brixen every old-growth tree is felled by hand. They are way too big for machines, but yeah you’re probably right, most wood must be second/third growth by now

[@Musicpins]

@@nakulah Sure are :) and there is still alot of those forrests (thank god!) Its common here with 180-250 YO growth trees because of incidents that happens in the 80's where way to many picea abies - (Northern/european spruce) was planted. There was a storm and guess what happened :D

[@christophersmith2871]

@Timothy Hall Try 8$.

[@L0vE2LiV3Liv32L0ve]

Try double that price currently here in the US

[@Isontro]

Safety should always be number 1 priority. Its really good to rewatch these videos on a yearly basis to keep safety in mind. Not the reason I'm watching though. KZbin just shoving it down my throat in my recommended feed. I also never have cut down a tree.

[@Snagoot]

I doubt I’ll ever need this info but I’m drawn to these videos

[@nesustrejo6509]

The video makes it look easy. The trees I fall at work aren't that big but but they are more twisted and the ground is more uneven. Either way it's dangerous be careful people.

[@astrialindah2773]

Not sure why all the negative comments........this was very informative, and had great instructions and graphics!

[@2101case]

I've watched dozens of these. Comments are always the same, with everybody thinking they're an expert.

[@paulj312002]

its because there are a certain kinds of people that would rather subscribe to looking cool or like they know something the rest of us dont. Ive been fallin trees for a long time and I aint ever cocky about it. When you get hurt back the woods its usually because of some stupid mistake or not paying attention. I saw my brother get tagged by a little white birch that was bent from a big maple falling on it. Brother didnt see the birch under the snow and when he bucked up the maple the first cut let the birch go, all the force released and hit my brother on the chin, then scaped up his nose to the top of his head and sent him flying about 10 feet. He's been a cutter all his life. Cant let your guard down. All these ''experts'' would do well to remember an ex is a has been and a spurt is a drip. theres your experts, never have been has been drips

[@deliverybryan1138]

astrialinda H Amen 🙏🏻

[@michellepugh2859]

Cause this is where the real pro's are.👎👀 they don't have any videos to prove their skill, but they definitely arnt shy to tell you how "good" they are.

[@michaelferguson167]

Yes, an awesome job indeed provided you remember it only takes one mistake to end up cut or crushed........I love playing with trees but I choose to work for myself which means I don't have to hurry cutting or making decisions.

[@kivaswander5537]

These videos might save lives thanks!

[@frankburns8871]

It's always amazing, when learning any new job, activity, hobby, or anything, just how much there is to learn. You really don't know how much you don't know about things until you actually start doing them. And that seems to go double for seemingly simple things. You know neurosurgery is gonna be incredibly complex, but how much can there be to learn about cutting trees and logs, for crying out loud? Turns out, quite a lot. Sure, it's not brain surgery, but it's not exactly "One of these things is not like the other" simplicity either.

[@sillyface6950]

Frank Burns it kind of is. sure there is a lot about trees but there is a lot more on functions of the brain, nerves, ect. both can kill if they go wrong but in surgery every thing is much more fiddly and sensitive, a tiny margin of error has the potential to be leathal or at least life changing.(not to say that trees are not very dangerous as well but) and one more thing is that if the tree kills the faller then it is due to their own mistakes. if someone dies during surgery then it is not their fault but is the fault of the one performing it.

[@chriscoco7243]

I couldn't agree more with you statement.

[@suitinaute]

Excellent tutorials. 9:05 was what I was after.

[@2PurpleSwitchs]

very good ive been cutting for a while but I learn something watching this

[@goaheadmakeourdayscooterpe9644]

One of the most dangerous things you can ever do felling and bucking trees when down, being able to read which way it wants to go when cut. As a retired lineman I cut many trees off lines sometimes pulled down to the ground and ready to fly once tree is removed.

[@lutoborsowianin8792]

Thanks for the film materials - from the Poland, it is a great help a lumberjacks / chainsawers :)

[@BrianBoruish]

Great video. Thank you all.

[@Wilted_Brainz]

This guy's a "Smart Feller" wink Thnaks for the vid.

[@carlgoodrum9505]

great tutorial thanks.

[@spelunkerd]

Can somebody explain for me why the bore cut was done at 14:00? The only way to remember these sequences is to understand why they are chosen....

[@steppoffaith8426]

Yes sir. The compression wood is on bottom side (got to treat it like a hard leaner because of weight of log and drop distance) !! So the whole purpose of this bucking method is to set up a release,trigger,or kind of like a falling henge so remove as much material as possible without binding saw or splitting( kind of like a barbarchair) the log. So cut up the back is like setting notch,scoring the front and coming out the bottom is for creating your release in one motion keeping your curf or cuts lined up. Instead of cutting the back then doing a upcut that can be offset from your back cut and then doing a possibly offset down cut that you cant cut through fast enough to keep the very heavy log from splitting (got to look at that log like hard leaner) whick turn $1000 log into $21 a ton paperwood!!

[@steppoffaith8426]

Hard for me to explain by text not very good communicator by text!

[@daisydela]

Two reasons I can think of, maybe more. First, when you can’t cut from underneath because the log is on the ground, the boring cut is a way to undercut. Second, in commercial logging, preserving every inch of board feet of lumber is crucial. In this example, the cut was clean without splintering and wasting any wood. For trail clearing for example, where I’m not concerned about that, I may just drive wedges and cut straight through. If it splinters a bit, I’d just clean it up at the end.

[@w1984t]

That log gave him a parting gift. 15:46

[@EMo5ive]

Excellent video.

[@jboling513]

I like it. For the weekend warriors tho there's a lot of walking around with a running machine I wouldn't suggest.

[@sillyface6950]

people need to read the description. "some practices demonstrated were modified for filming and may not be consistent with the BC Faller Training Standards"

[@thomasgronek6469]

With all due respect, I humbly inject my observation and opinion: At 5:30 He is standing on the down-hill side of a BIG piece of timber, maybe this isn't the best place to stand. Thank you for this, and all of your presentations, you have a new subscriber.

[@wizardsuth]

I was thinking the same. That log could have rolled either way due to how it was resting on the other tree.

[@elonmust7470]

I love a heavy bind. Just TOUCH the back & POW!!!

[@jimforgrave6365]

At 1:40 he starts a plunge cut with the top end of the bar....isnt that the easiest way to get a kickback!? I'm not that experienced, so I'd appreciate any comments.

[@kellyroyer8476]

Jim Forgrave It is the easiest way to get a kickback. He is on slope,on the high side of the log and plunging into the bottom of the log so he cant possibly get the saw low enough to initiate the cut with the bottom of the bar. This is his only option. There are techniques to prevent kickback that reduce the risks.

[@gordonreed248]

Jim Forgrave Only the tip of the back of the bar is a kickback hazard. If you watch him start that bore cut he uses the straight part of the back of the bar, then works his way around to a bore cut while the tip is buried in the wood to prevent any kickback. To start the cut on the bottom he has done all he could to prevent kickback. If he started his cut on the top he would have had to get his bar out of a severe pinch situation.

[@paulj312002]

not if he knows where his kick back zone is and doesnt touch it...Gordon Reed's comment above said it best I think

[@shermanhofacker4428]

A fast moving sharp chain doesn't kick back.

[@olsonbryce777]

@@shermanhofacker4428 Dont spread lies

[@meyou245]

It only takes a second to look behind you and check for a clear escape path.

[@woodchannel0153]

Good information 👍👍

[@joebecker5593]

I noticed none of the folks are wearing chaps. Is that common in commercial logging?

[@dawydiak1]

They’re wearing faller’s pants, which incorporate the same material but provide protection around the whole leg. Much more expensive than chaps.

[@ahmadamiruddinabdulaziz3128]

i have already watching all the series of the video. can i ask for a certificate or endorsement?

[@ablebaker1275]

I knew logging was dangerous, hats off to the timber jacks. Didn’t think there was such an art to fall timber….

[@just-dice9027]

At 6:32 he says the top cut is "one quarter the diameter of the tree", then cuts a little more than half way through the tree (as you can see by the mark when both cuts are finished). Where is the "one quarter" bit?

[@kivaswander5537]

Just-Dice should be a third anyways..

[@kivaswander5537]

Cutting more than a third is dangerous business I believe

[@paulj312002]

another good vid.

[@sindrerudshaug]

6:34 "Top-cut, 1/4 diameter"! Reality from picture 6:48, top cut was 1/2 diameter. So, which is it?

[@אוריפלסי]

Yeah, all strait trees, we don't all have that luxury.

[@stevie6420]

Noticed that myself 😅

[@geoffreygreen297]

Yeah.... stand under the log while you cut the potential pivot. Really safe. Glad I don’t cut in BC.

[@aleksandarcrnomarkovic8360]

Great videos, very useful and helping. Tnx a lot good people! :))

[@Flickchaser]

Question- The logger has amazing traction and stability..at aprox. 16:45 his boots are close to the camera..anyone know the Mfg. or brand? It doesn't look like the usual Wal-Mart cardboard and glue garbage. There appears to be a small leather tongue covering the bottom portion of the laces.

[@wild8q]

that would be proper chain saw boots with inlay similar to whats in the chain saw pants to stop the chain going through

[@justinwilliams3237]

Flickchaser They look like a pair of Whites corkies to me [made in Spokane], but I could be wrong. They are not cheap and no those are not toe chaps, lol.

[@41odyssey]

most likely viberg or dayton caulks.

[@lakorai2]

Haix chainsaw boots. About $300 USD

[@BrianStocking]

Great video. Question, when does a Feller become a Faller? I thought it was, "you are felling a tree". If I'm Felling a tree am I the Faller?

[@lillyfitzgerald9996]

It’s BC, not America, different use of language.

[@markproulx1472]

I find tree falling and bucking to be simple. I pay someone who knows what the hell they’re doing to do the job. I’ve become accustomed to living; I intend to keep it that way.

[@אוריפלסי]

A puck coming at you at 90mph and getting smashed against the glass is much healthier? So think about watching the game on tv, it isn't the same, just like getting the wood delivered to your door, something missing.

[@Crunchifyable2]

That's how I see working with a chainsaw and trees. Some things I can do. Some are only for professionals with insurance. They have million dollar insurance policies.

[@dwoodog]

I'm cool with some little trees in the back yard, this was way way beyond me.

[@lepaul26]

12:23 Removing that pivot point looks very dangerous to me, no ? :-/ What if the tree rested to much on that point ??

[@mark70smith]

my same though!!!

[@torreyburke]

The tree looked like it was not resting at all on that point. The idea is that when the log dropped AFTER the cut it would hit that point and pivot.

[@Don.Challenger]

The assumption is if we could see the left hand side view we would note the underlying log and the stump were free and further to our camera view from the log to be bucked - perspective makes us think the bucked log is currently binding to them.

[@CadrachMor]

When setting up to buck a log, one never knows, one must simply identify possible hazards, predict the worst possible outcome, and make provision for all of it. It probably was not a pivot situation, the slope did not look steep enough for a log to swing that hard. They forgot to mention steepness of slope and its affect on how violently a log may swing, and weight of the log, and about a doze other indicators. For the purposes of the video, it presented like one, and had the potential. I like how he went at it: slow, methodical, predicting potential problems and making a plan for any problems.

[@mvblitzyo]

good training video

[@DRIVERR]

Дякую.дещо нові знання отримав.👍

[@brandonburdette7895]

I've done it for a living its a dangerous job I've had some really close calls in the woods logging

[@willett786]

We all know drop starts are used, but should they be shown in a safety video?

[@phoenixlove76]

I've always thought that about these videos. I've replaced enough parts on my saws to pretty much consider it a cardinal sin using one of my saws

[@mandanna09]

My Neighbour Al was a faller with 40 years of safe work he in conjunction with Worksafe wrote the safety Standards book

[@Crawlerjamie]

How did the saw not kickback at 1:55?? Seemed like the perfect situation it may kickback.

[@shermanhofacker4428]

A sharp fast moving chain doesn't kick back.

[@paulasmith7256]

Because he started with the bottom of the bar and not the top front quadrant,

[@russellschleife3651]

Don’t listen to that first comment cause that BS

[@kevino1489]

@@shermanhofacker4428 yes it does if that sharp fast moving chain hits a stationary object it can kick back but he's doing it correctly he knows what he's doing

[@nobodythatyouknow241]

Experience and knowing how to control your equipment.

[@mattynoordberg1698]

Friggin’ dangerous work

[@chig9357]

great info!

[@BPGM1989]

Today i went all alone to fall a tree, it was my first time and this happened to me, almost got killed, the tree just went against me, knocked me to the ground and thank god just went above me, otherwise it would have smashed me against a tree or against the ground. I feel so depressed, i though i could fall a tree all by myself and almost got killed by the tree, it started badly rigth from the begining, my chainsaw got stucked in the tree when i was making the last cut, so i had to cut it with na axe until it brake and fall, it didnt fall where i wanted and got entangled in 3 other trees, so it had several pivot points, then when i decided to untangled it by cutting the acident above happened, i only had time to protect my face with my arms, they are all bruised as well as my back. My self esteem dropped a lot, i dont think i will try it again without having someone more experienced then me at my side.

[@deliverybryan1138]

Primeiro Último be careful man !!!

[@carldekok9065]

It's hardly ever the big trees that hurt you...you got to learn how to read the trees ..on there lean..and look at the tops..and plan your falling ..its like a jig saw puzzle..

[@snorman1911]

Got some good sized trees there.

[@toadamine]

What saw is that? 390?

[@michaelpcooksey5096]

So bind = compression in their terminology. OK But this is the 1st time I've come across conceptualizing a cylinder as a 4 sided square log. So clock face 12, 3, 6, and 9 become the flat sides & their imaginary corners with the log in cross section become the 'corners'?.

[@matthewkendall7791]

Wild to think this used to be done with hand saws

[@jell-oputin8036]

This should be a video game 🎮

[@lillyfitzgerald9996]

Why.

[@Finom1]

What is the make, model and bar length of your saw.? Great educational videos.

[@briankleinschmidt3664]

A lot of these videos show people in a flat empty field. This man is in a more realistic setting. I hate having to walk the logs. I never stand on the log when cutting. That's too much excitement for me.

[@edpottinger849]

Anybody wanting to see proper safe usage of a saw watch this one

[@09rja]

That baby at 4:50 screams: trouble. (With a capital T.)

[@Finom1]

Just subscribed.

[@kurtcooper3699]

While I may not see eye to eye on every method of cutting that was not my intention. I need to brush up on proper standard safe chainsaw methods. Although I don't subscribe to cutting towards myself & guessing a 1/4 as I'm cutting there are other ways to cut the same tree without any further risks. These are good brush up techniques being taught overall.

[@MinusTheSparkPlugs]

That chainsaw he's using looks like a snow blower with all the chips coming out

[@nobodythatyouknow241]

A sharp chain will do that.

[@daddyrabbit835]

And right there 1:49, I would get my saw pinched.

[@elchaconaso]

even cutting trees is complicated

[@bradhorner]

Bind is involved in nearly every fu#$%ng situation. 9:23

[@steelonius]

That's funny!

[@stephenpaull4858]

What saw is that he's useing

[@chinengsung8561]

Hq 385 mybe

[@victormeldroo]

at 16.47 you can see the feller wearing boots with defined heels, absolute no go in the lumber industry, you can see him walk the grounded tree with a twist in his ankles due to the heels, just has well be wearing stilleto's. practice what you preach i say, aswell you only have a saw running when you are cutting never when walking over logs etc.

[@lillyfitzgerald9996]

Incorrect, nothing wrong with walking with a running saw.

[@OmmerSyssel]

@@lillyfitzgerald9996 you are plain ignorant!

[@thevictoriousyamani3928]

thanks!

[@donalddumas6987]

We don't have big trees like that in Northern Ontario.

[@AlabanzasyAdoración7]

why does he measure before he starts cutting?

[@yearginclarke]

What kind of nonsensical question is that?

[@EdwardT9]

yearginclarke because lots of people with no experience in this watch it, are curious, want to learn, and they ask questions.

[@tambourvideo]

To allow the longest possible length for cutting the log into lumber.

[@MrMEmEmEmEMEMEeeeeee]

Logs need to be cut to specific lengths for maximum lumber yield at the mill. If the faller messes up the length he is penalized by being paid less for those incorrect length logs.

[@nobodythatyouknow241]

He is measuring to maximize for grade and a specific length that the sawmills prefer.

[@ppak10]

Watching this video but I don’t even own a tree

[@VincentArboriste]

This is a very good video. I would like to point out that your demonstrator is walking around with a running chainsaw without the brake engaged. Still a great video nonetheless. Best regards

[@lillyfitzgerald9996]

Ain’t nothing wrong with walking around with a running saw.

[@jonnewell3989]

If only the timber was so soft here!

[@fullboostturbo1]

I thought it was a no no to use the top front quarter of the bar nose to make plunge cuts?????????

[@자연과벗삼은한량]

👍

[@Drumbinnisbrian]

excellent

[@juliaboeddeker1584]

very scientific ways to cut.. is that a Sthill chain saw?

[@mikewest712]

Julia Boeddeker if it were a stihl, this would be a repair video.

[@paulj312002]

no...its a husqy...id say his stihl is still in the corner where it belongs.

[@MelikeKTMs]

Mike West Stihl Guy here. You’re right

[@mertsilliker1682]

well done

[@Camocountry1]

Well looks like he gets paid by the hour that's for sure.

[@EdwardT9]

camocountry Whittle especially when doing a safety training video. Probably took all day to film this.

[@jozsefbodri6434]

Profi!

[@Steve-rz5fx]

Sucks I never really knew what I wanted to do for a living until recently started cleaning up downed trees after a huge windstorm. I'm 33 now and work a desk job. Hoping it's not too late.

[@carldekok9065]

I understand ..had the addiction since I was 15......66 years old now and still cutting trees ..just learn learn ..and shut out all your problems and listen to your senses...trust your sense..always have a bit of healthy fear..with confedence...all the best...

[@nobodythatyouknow241]

@@carldekok9065 definitely a healthy fear. It's served me well. Four decades in the logging industry for me.

[@julianalderson3938]

Seems lot of cuttin just for that' but bein trapped aint good. Always got think plan 2. Cheers

[@some1namedjoetree868]

chaps?

[@afrozilla420]

chaps are like pants that go over you're jeans that help stop the chain from cutting into you're leg in the event of an accident or chain coming off the bar I've has 2 close calls so I'm investing in a pair soon

[@Crawlerjamie]

Joseph Root I ain’t no cowboy!

[@nesustrejo6509]

Chaps have kevlar threads inside that come out and bind up the chain. Saw it happen at work once. Can save you a trip to the hospital and possibly a serious injury.

[@killingoldgrowthsince]

British Columbia Fallers don't wear chaps,they wear Fallers pants.

[@ryancouch9050]

Nice Chaps!

[@killingoldgrowthsince]

Hesnot warring chaps there Fallers pants.

[@haninhassan904]

Bonjour

[@doruum]

cine stie , stie!!!

[@kingkongkong2204]

Im still learning and I'm confused IyKZbin experts say to stay away from top tip of the chainsaw the kickback zone wasn't his first cut right in the kickback zone

[@stevie6420]

I'm not a professional but from my experience Because he held the bar pointing down and started on the lower part instead of halfway down he reduced his chance of kickback as the saw would have to push the user back before it could run up the log... Also if you look closely you can see he pushes the saw with his thigh to start the cut giving him more control and not just depending on his arms to hold it... Hope this helps

[@dewkeating]

That saw!

[@josephburkhalter5105]

Bucker...not bucket! Thank you spell checker JoeB

[@aekracing3726]

🇹🇭❤️👍

[@ExploringCabinsandMines]

Can't wait to see what happens when they ban gas engines will loggers go electric? no

[@OmmerSyssel]

Living under a rock? Leading chainsaw producers have long sold professional chainsaws, run by akku.. Pretty impressive tools!

[@ExcavationNation]

@@OmmerSyssel not at this power dude haahahahahahahah. But then again I saw a full zero turn riding mower powered by batteries. 😆