Beating every Paper Mario: The Origami King Boss in the fewest turns (most bosses in 4 turns) PMTOK

[@ZXMany]

You might also enjoy this video looking at if we can survive the Scissors Boss' 999 damage attack: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rnPCnJuaop2ibMk AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR GETTING ME TO 1,000 SUBSCRIBERS!!! :D Please consider clicking subscribe if you're not subscribed already! You might also enjoy this video: Can you beat the Fire Vellumental Boss without attacking it? - kzbin.info/www/bejne/r5uzhWmffKiCaa8 We face all 13 Paper Mario: The Origami King bosses in this video, defeating them in the fewest turns possible: Earth Vellumental - 0:23 Colored Pencils - 1:20 Water Vellumental - 2:44 Rubber Band - 6:26 Fire Vellumental - 8:15 Hole Punch - 9:43 Ice Vellumental - 11:35 Tape - 14:21 Boss Sumo Bros - 16:30 Handaconda - 18:23 Scissors - 19:28 Stapler - 21:37 King Olly - 23:32 SUBSCRIBE FOR MORE PAPER MARIO AND OTHER GAMING CONTENT: kzbin.info/door/fVPkqHdqDon3OfKn6Qm1kA

[@wilderduran5431]

You forgot to mention my comment about 2 RNG lineups. Stupid RNG..

[@ZXMany]

@@wilderduran5431 Tape is the most frustrating with RNG in my opinion :(

[@ukulelepichu4484]

@@ZXMany i laughed at your hyper beam refrence, now i just want the vellumentals turned into a pokemon team

[@ZXMany]

@@ukulelepichu4484 Glad you liked it! I'm planning on making some Pokemon videos/ streaming some Pokemon in the future if you're interested :)

[@ukulelepichu4484]

@@ZXMany nice

[@pokepress]

There’s a level of strategy to these fights that reminds me of how folks would analyze Punch-Out.

[@ZXMany]

Yeah, it's so cool seeing the strategies and thought that goes into planning parts of games to optimize it!

[@OrionAltHist]

If Punch-Out was really easy and simplistic, which it isn't.

[@Peashooterrealtrust]

I like how almost all the bosses take 4 turns

[@iantaakalla8180]

Even in The Origami King, Ice-types suck. This time, it’s because the Ice Vellumental is actually good at stalling.

[@ZXMany]

1000-fold-arm (fighting type?) is super effective on ice :)

[@trainerlsw2444]

@@ZXMany I would consider it! It would be 1-5 hit move! But if the move reaches 5 hits, the last hit results in a critical hit!

[@trainerlsw2444]

Wow...

[@nimbusttp_archive]

There’s no way this wasn’t intentional

[@nicholasmaximillian6548]

speedrunners be like: i like this information, thank you

[@simpumoon]

you single handedly help me get 100% in this game. I’ve been holding it off for so long because of these fights. thank you so much dude keep up the good work!

[@ZXMany]

Really glad I could help! Hope you enjoyed the game :D

[@laurakinney7199]

Fun fact about handaconca is it will show what move it’s using in rock paper scizzers by going slightly flat hand(paper)small fist(rock) and two fingers (scizzors

[@ozzgonzalez7165]

For the snake shadow hands thing, it's not luck. See when arranging the circles it will assume a "rock paper scissors" form, you just pick whatever beats it "paper-scissors, rock-paper, scissors-rock".

[@FortunAdlaich]

I think you pick whatever form it assumes but I might be wrong Update: Actually, I think it's just luck

[@SquidPartyDude]

2:26 Makes Sense, It became the worst in 3 turns

[@-earth-8077]

I did sumo bros in 5 mins and I never even new how to fight it

[@ZXMany]

Awesome!

[@OrionAltHist]

13 bosses in the entire game that you can so easily demolish with the same trick? Interesting. Rly good video btw

[@ZXMany]

Thank you for the comment! Glad you enjoyed it :) Hope you enjoy the other content on my channel!

[@OrionAltHist]

@@ZXMany Hey, ever played any of the Mario & Luigi games? Almost every attack in those games is dodgeable.

[@ZXMany]

@@OrionAltHist I've played a lot of the first one and a bit of the second one, they were really fun :) I struggled with the jump rope at the start of the first one for a while when I first played it as a kid haha

[@OrionAltHist]

@@ZXMany There's also a Superstar Saga remake on 3DS that I highly recommend

[@ZXMany]

@@OrionAltHist I'll have to give it a shot, thanks for the recommendation :)

[@justanotherguy8588]

The bosses in these are so creative.

[@pedroh.jota.p]

Zoumbee

[@jellyman1864]

Office supplies (+ kinda like a… uhhhhh… uhhhhhhhhhhh.. Oh yes! An avatar rip-off)

[@mailingcat]

Here’s how I defeated the water vellumental, On turn 1, I would lower him down, On turn 2, I would jump on him some more. On turn 3, I would trip after activating a on switch, On turn 4, I would touch a earth vellumental. Repeat until they die.

[@ZXMany]

Yeah, there are different approaches that work :)

[@leofrog9]

Turn 1: get on panel by jumping Turn 2: get fire vellumental by jumping Turn 3: use fire vellumental and win

[@CursedXyster]

@@leofrog9 fire vellumental is after the water vellumental though

[@jeffdixon7651]

1 hop for on 2 e 3 hop for f 4 f

[@cassielangelini5739]

@@CursedXyster i do not know

[@goommooster7572]

So, if you counted Tape’s 2 phases as 2 different fights, would it technically be shorter?

[@ZXMany]

Yeah, Tape is 6 turns total as a singular boss, but I wouldn't count each phase as an individual boss fight. Stapler technically has 3 phases (the different coloured staples), but we can completely skip phase 2 and 3 if we're quick, and it takes 4 turns in total to beat Stapler

[@goommooster7572]

ZXMany Oh, Ok!

[@ZXMany]

@@goommooster7572 Yeah, I wish Tape was a faster boss, it's one of the most difficult bosses in the game and that's partly because it's so based on luck haha. I wonder if we'll ever see it done in less than 6 turns total

[@jeffdixon7651]

Jomp on ki ole and he will dae

[@jellyman1864]

It would be okay because phase 1 is 2 turns and phase 2 is 4

[@MrMasquime]

I thought Handaconda tells you which sign he will do while you're placing circles around, i was looking at its hand.

[@ZXMany]

Yeah, someone told me you can do that! I tried to do that and I made a mistake, so I thought it was random. I haven't been back to check, but I think you're right, it would make sense that they do that :)

[@MrMasquime]

@@ZXMany Good vid' by the way !

[@ZXMany]

@@MrMasquime Thanks for the comment, really glad you enjoyed it :) There's more Paper Mario analysis (and memes) on my channel

[@idioticlight]

Doesnt it either win or loose deepending on you doing the action thing correctly?

[@bottle9781]

Whatever sign Handaconda uses you need to use the one that is weak to it like if it shows scissors use paper. At least that is what happens to me

[@V00doo1Xim]

you can kill the colored pencils boss without shutting the lid on him you just have to go to the front or the sides not behind the boss and hammer and repeat till he does the rainbow roll attack and do the boss like normal

[@bozzyo5171]

Show my thumbnail to Chnia Because it is a skull 2we know tho

[@misk-ivus2990]

These strats are really neat! For my own earth Vellumental 3 turn run, I hit the tail, the use a fire flower while It's in its shell, and then arms

[@ZXMany]

That's a really good idea, I wonder if that's faster/ if that's the new strategy that gets used now!

[@choboy46]

Is hitting the head needed in order for the 1000 fold arms to finish the Earth Vellumental?

[@MoonieMuses]

18:52 There is actually is a strategy for Rock Paper Scissors here that I found worked consistently for myself. If Mario and the boss draw say, both rock, there’s a good chance the boss will do rock again, so do paper. Since it lost at rock, it’ll do scissors, so instead do rock to counter it. It’s a very consistent pattern. Essentially, it boils down to, if the boss wins with something, or you two draw, there’s a high chance he’ll do it again. If Mario wins in a match, he’ll try and counter the thing you did. (Do scissors if you won with rock for example)

[@luked.6732]

Hey man really appreciate your content, helped me get through some of these tough bosses

[@ZXMany]

That's awesome, really glad my videos helped you out! Are you done the game now? What did you think of the game?

[@OrionAltHist]

They're small fry compared to say, some of the Mario & Luigi series' bosses.

[@buddy9848]

2:01 This attack here can be dodged if you’re standing in one of the two outer most rings. The boss will even have something to say if you do this the first time you fight it, “Argh, how did you get so far away!?”

[@WickedBowserJr]

Your videos are a great help for doing a no game over run, thanks!

[@ZXMany]

That's awesome, I'm glad my videos help you, thanks so much for the comment! Be careful when using some of the strategies in this video, because some of these strategies are riskier than other strategies just to get the boss done more quickly

[@WickedBowserJr]

@ZXMany Yeah, I’m aware, thanks. Scissors was the most helpful since I was afraid of facing the final cut move. And in any case, the home button and close software are a click away which I use if I suspect I’ll die. Anyway, great stuff, keep up the great content!

[@ZXMany]

@@WickedBowserJr Thanks so much! Hope your game goes well :)

[@colfdralegend]

Wow, y’all have really optimized these, huh? It’s impressive, really Makes sense that ice and tape would be the longest though, I’d imagine those two things would slow you down

[@ZXMany]

Yeah, I'm really impressed with what speedrunners have come up with in this game for these bosses! Especially Stapler, which normally has a red staples and gold staples part of the fight, that can be skipped entirely! And thanks for checking out the video :) There's a lot of cool stuff in this game as you look deeper into it, you can check out some of my other content if you're interested in more!

[@RaichuGamesFormalyBeef]

@@ZXMany I figured out the puzzle for water velemental

[@GamingReinvented]

Great video! Didn't know how quickly you could defeat most of these bosses until seeing it, with the exceptions of Handaconda, Boss Sumo Bro and Scissors. That said, you did make a small mistake with the Handaconda battle one. It's not luck. The boss actually shows you what hand signal it'll use in your turn, though it'll keep switching every few seconds or so. For instance, in your turn, you can see it's making the 'paper' sign, so scissors would be the correct response to it. Other than that, it's a great video, and everything's spot on. Seems like another channel for my next underrated channels list I think!

[@ZXMany]

Thanks so much for the comment! AH, I had a feeling that was the case with Handaconda!! I was looking closely at the boss trying to see if there was a hint with the hand sign that it was making, and I made a mistake once, I was thinking that Handaconda changes its choice similarly to how Scissors bounces and flips sometimes. And we're slowly building up the channel, trying to get up to 1000 subscribers before the end of the summer and we're on our way! :)

[@jeffdixon7651]

You can bet the handohkna in 3 tons yus 2 hands ise of 1

[@emmy_corgi8809]

I actually noticed the opposite! When the Handaconda puts out a symbol before the turn starts, it’s trying to trick you into choosing the symbol that would defeat it, so when the turn starts, you’ll use the symbol you believe will win, but it chooses the symbol that would defeat the symbol you chose, assuming you fell into the trap. So to win every time, I think you have to choose the symbol it puts up to try and deceive you with, because it will do the opposite assuming you’ve been tricked (example: if it puts up scissors, you should choose scissors because it will think you put up rock to try and defeat it, therefore leading it to actually choose paper, ultimately ending up with you winning because you chose the scissors instead of rock)

[@flynnmaxwell4089]

7:35 this remides me of when the chepp chepp in sticer star did 54 and i was on 55 hp

[@ukulelepichu4484]

agree

[@Aaaaaaaaaaaa4273]

I get what you’re talking about

[@ninjaydes]

I got really lucky then. The hand signs Handaconda was throwing out during the turning phase just so happened to match what it used during the actual RPS.

[@stoooyrsplayzstoooyrsplayz8447]

DUDE THE EARTH VELLUMENTAL REMATCH IS SHORTER THAN WHEN YOU FIRST BEAT IT!

[@rcdr898]

I was struggling with Stapler. Great tutorials!

[@ZXMany]

Thanks so much, glad they helped you!

[@staceymiles5273]

Wait does that mean the ice vellumental is the hardest boss fight in the game

[@ZXMany]

Great question! I'd personally say that tape is slightly harder because it's more luck dependent (i.e. You can get in big trouble even if you do everything perfectly for tape, but if you do everything perfectly for the ice vellumental, you're guaranteed a win) A long fight doesn't necessarily mean it's a difficult fight, but the ice vellumental does seem to be one of the hardest bosses in the game for people (it's currently the most popular boss fight guide I have on my channel)

[@ZXMany]

@HEW WAI KIET - You can beat the ice vellumental with 1000-fold-arms or a fire flower for sure, the pow block doesn't work, and I can't remember if other regular attacks/ hammers work, I haven't tested it out in a while :P

[@emmy_corgi8809]

So, I have a theory for the Handaconda boss. During the Rock Paper Scissors phase, if you pay close attention before moving the panels to choose what symbol you’re going to use, you’ll notice that the boss will make one of the symbols with its hand. So for example, before playing the game, it does the scissors symbol. The Handaconda is expecting you to look at that and choose rock, because rock defeats scissors, but what it’s actually going to do is choose paper. It will defeat you because you chose rock, and paper beats rock. So what you have to do is choose scissors, because the hand will choose to do paper because it believes you are going to choose rock, therefore it chooses paper. Basically what I’m saying is that you should pay attention to what symbol the hand is making before the turn starts, and then choose that symbol, because the Handaconda will choose the opposite (the one that gets defeated) I’m not sure if this is exactly true, but that’s just what I’ve noticed.

[@churgneygurgney9895]

Could've turned the outermost ring counterclockwise four times and the second to innermost counterclockwise twice for turn 3 of water vellumellum

[@ZXMany]

Yeah, there are several options for turn 3, but there's no solution yet that gets the extra attack/ double damage/ attack panel all in the same turn

[@akkalah1115]

Thank you so much you have helped me through this game I’m sad it’s come to an end today

[@ZXMany]

Really glad my guides helped you, thank you for the comment! How did you like the game?

[@scottbergeron2114]

There is a way, during the water vellumental fight, to at least do damage while passing either the 2 times panel or the extra move panel, just not both. I think this could be a great solution that could at most make the turns 4 instead of five. I will be looking into this though, so don’t worry.

[@ZXMany]

Yeah, you can either one or the other but nobody has found a solution for both yet! The world record still uses 5 turns. Maybe there will be a solution that we can find one day to get it done in 4 turns instead of 5, and that might set a new record :) Good luck!

[@scottbergeron2114]

I at least think that the third turn should be of importance. Maybe for healing or turning on the on switch. I think that healing would be good for this turn, and the next turn you go to a A+1 panel and attack, while healing.

[@duckgrow]

Ye it’s crazy full of Pokémon references lol

[@CrypticWaves]

DuckGrow hey nice seein you here

[@ZXMany]

Yeah! The Moltres was stunning

[@Dercide_Xorcist]

DuckGrow all the vellamintos lol

[@MystinaValeth]

18:58 I don't believe it is purely luck based, Handaconda will telegraph his next move by slightly forming his hand in the shape of rock, paper, or scissors. The only luck is that he doesn't change it right before you hit accept.

[@keithtorgersen9664]

Handaconda is not completely random with Rock Paper Scissors. It sometimes telegraphs its attack and if you’re fast enough you can attack it before it switches its hand signal.

[@OrangeStaringCat]

Nice, already completed the game but I’m still interested in this because this is a genius game! Almost 300 subscribers, keep up the good work mate!

[@ZXMany]

That's awesome, and thanks so much, appreciate the comment!

[@Dercide_Xorcist]

Derek van der Veen this is probably the best paper Mario game because like it's more action like the elavater and the pincels going in the elavater and the chain chomp the peach ship slug slime in the window I loved that

[@OrangeStaringCat]

Stephan Sanford yeah me too

[@goommooster7572]

Origami...an Kingdra used hyper beam! It’s super effective! Wait, nothing’s weak to normal! **insert pokémon narrating screaming, aka many of the word A on the screen.** This just came to mind when you compared big wave to hyper beam--

[@ZXMany]

Kingdra is fantastic! I've heard people use articuno, but that's ice instead of water unfortunately

[@goommooster7572]

Yeah, I just feel like it represents Kingdra more than Articuno because of its dragon-like appearance.

[@goommooster7572]

imagine if they actually made an origami pokémon game--

[@ZXMany]

@@goommooster7572 That made me laugh, that's a really good idea. And it would be full of origami references too, and everyone would constantly talk about how the Pokemon are made of Origami

[@goommooster7572]

I feel like it would work like the Gales XD Pokémon game that I can’t remember its name, where Pokémon are turned into shadow pokémon, and in this case it’s origami.

[@MadWeegee]

I didn't even know that the water vellumental had that flying bite attack. Pretty interesting!

[@ZXMany]

Thanks for watching! Glad you enjoyed it :)

[@evagarcia865]

So you’re telling me the hardest boss in this game is an origami Beartic rip-off.

[@ZXMany]

Some people found Moltres difficult too :^) The most RNG-dependent for me personally was Tape, especially if you're trying to speedrun that boss

[@evagarcia865]

ZXMany Yeah, Tape is pretty hard. As for Moltres, I found him annoying, more than difficult, because of the flames scattered on the field.

[@ZXMany]

@@evagarcia865 There's something interesting about the Moltres in The Origami King! You can almost defeat it without attacking it. You can put up a heart right in front of Mario (feathers never fall on hearts), and Mario will just heal every turn and not walk on any feathers. I have a video exploring if we can beat the Fire Vellumental Boss without attacking it if you're interested!

[@enderger5308]

16:48: XYZ - “It may seem difficult and like there are a lot of enemies to defeat.” Sumo Bro - “NO”

[@enderger5308]

Sorry for the typo, should be ZX.

[@charliegb5463]

Here’s the problem, the fire vellum fight is luck based, you may not get both the A+1 or the chest at all. If you do, you may not get the fight circle. The A+1 MUST be in the 2nd ring, if it isn’t then the strat will not work, close the game and reload it. The chest however, needs to be in the 3rd ring. We all know where the attack circle is meant to go. However, the molten wing count is a MUST when you are looking out for it. The letters are just wastes of time and space. Use the toads when your HP is in a dire state. Olivia can’t really help us. This is going to take a while as the A+1 and the Chest are in the same ring. Usually the 3rd ring.

[@DaSheepKiller]

Some of these bosses took me 1 extra turn because I cannot pull off the action command with the Fire Flower for the life of me.

[@ZXMany]

Glad you got it! Once you learn how to do it, it's pretty easy, there's a pretty big window: I first started by looking at Mario's hand, and pressing "A" once the fire ball appears/ starts to grow

[@DaSheepKiller]

@@ZXMany I didn't even know there was an action command for it before this video lol. I hope what you said helps when I try to fight more of these bosses!

[@ZXMany]

@@DaSheepKiller Good luck! I also have in-depth guides for each boss if you're struggling on any particular boss!

[@CorporateSalmon]

Awesome video. Great presentation and I love this game. Great job!

[@ZXMany]

Thanks so much for the kind comment, I appreciate it :) There's more Paper Mario Origami King content on my channel if you're interested in more (and more to come), and I'm trying to get to 1000 subscribers before the end of summer, it would really help out if you could subscribe!

[@CorporateSalmon]

ZXMany sure thing man

[@ZXMany]

@@CorporateSalmon Thanks so much, I appreciate that!

[@ch3mdah]

If you use the 1000 fold arms on color pencil on the closest ring you can save time since it takes some time for color pencils to crawl to you.

[@ZXMany]

Ah, that's really interesting! Yeah, I imagine you could probably set up the rings and get to the 1FA circle more quickly than the pencil case can crawl over to you

[@erickpoorbaugh6728]

So I guess you could say that the Ice Vellumental fight progresses at a glacial pace.

[@ZXMany]

I love this so much 😂 nICE comment (that's the best I could come up with on the spot, I kind of just *froze*)

[@LilMannreal]

Is it possible to rebattle the bosses because I'm about to get the game on Friday and I'm a boss battle fan and I just wanna know

[@ZXMany]

Yeah, there's a place in the main town where you can rebattle the bosses, and it shows the time it takes you to beat the boss, so you challenge yourself and try to beat the boss as quickly as possible. It's a fun game, I hope you enjoy it! I have all kinds of guides on my channel if you get stuck/ get to any challenging parts :)

[@pleasegetmeto100subs7]

Thanks a million! You are the GOAT

[@Cowbowguyvr]

tip: if the ice veelumental is in cases with ice no attacks will work but fire flower so if you accidently go on a attack panel use that

[@wilderduran5431]

I found the water vellumental to be the hardest. Not because of the rings. But because you skipped the ring movements. I think you cheated. I’m so dumb with this boss ok?

[@ZXMany]

In the first turn, the ring movements are: (1) rotate the inner ring so the x2 panel is lined up with the envelope, (2) rotate the second ring counter-clockwise once, (3) slide the x2 panel to the outer ring. The second turn is: (1) slide the x2 panel to the 3rd ring closest to Mario, (2) rotate the second ring clockwise twice, (3) rotate the outer ring to get an arrow to make Mario walk on the x2 panel There's also an easy solution to turn 4 if we ever find a solution to turn 3 Hope that helps!

[@wilderduran5431]

WAIT! I think I found the solution to Turn 3! Rotate the outer ring to the A+1 Panel Ring. (Move 1 / 3) Turn the X2 Panel to line up with the A+1 Panel. ( Ring Move 2 / 3 ) In the final ring, Line up the attack panel. Then you attack. I think that is the solution? Maybe not? I think not, but prove it yourself!

[@ZXMany]

@@wilderduran5431 Mario has no panel to start on that way :( The outer ring panel can't reach both Mario's first step and the A+1 panel in the same turn

[@wilderduran5431]

ZXMany I wish you showed us how. But I don’t understand all that. Yes, I fully understand turn 1, but I can’t understand turn 2 at all! It’s way too complex ok?

[@wilderduran5431]

I GOT IT! I PASSED TURN 2! I hope I can master it! 3:01 and 3:07 were achieved on this, A MASSIVE improvement from my 5:44

[@ancestral_artemis]

There’s is another way to beat the scissors in 5 turns Move 1: Chest and legendary boots Move two: A+1 x2 and legendary hammers Excellent raining Move 3: chest and legendary hammer again Move 4: ON switch and Ice vellumental Move 5: On switch and 1000 fold arms make sure you get excellent railings or the boss will still be alive.

[@ZXMany]

Awesome! Yeah, there are several ways to do it, and there are some really quick ways to beat the boss!

[@melissahuynh2409]

13 bosses in in paper mario the origami king but 13 is a unlucky number!

[@ZXMany]

It's the bosses who are unlucky because of how good we are after watching this video 😎

[@melissahuynh2409]

Your right ZXMANY!😎😎😎😎😎🔫🔫🔫🔫

[@ZXMany]

@@melissahuynh2409 Those bosses better watch out 😎 We're ready

[@melissahuynh2409]

Zxmany my real name is jayden pham im a boy its just my ipad has my moms Account! Oh and i made a origami king olly and it looks very cool!😎😎😎😎

[@MrTommybthebeast]

There is a chance you could beat Tape in 5 turns turn1 phase 1 fire flower to the front of the case turn2 phase1 fire flower to back of the case turn3 phase 2 1000 fold arms turn4 phase 2 chest and fire vellumental turn 5 phase2 1000 fold arms but I know it doesnt work 100% of the time.

[@amberbruhway927]

Handacondas Rock Paper Scissors phase actually has poses which show which action he’ll do in the Rock Paper Scissors thing, so it’s not really RNG. But still good video.

[@anim8ionbacon]

You just got a new sub.

[@ZXMany]

Thanks so much for that, I really appreciate that, hope you enjoy the content! Trying to get to 1000 subscribers before the end of the summer, so that really helps, thank you!

[@anim8ionbacon]

Thanks, Man!

[@stoooyrsplayzstoooyrsplayz8447]

what happens if you use a jump attack when the hole punching boss is not vulnerable

[@stoooyrsplayzstoooyrsplayz8447]

do it

[@slushie_p3511]

Omg, your video was able to help me beat the water vellumental boss. Thank you so much😭❤️❤️

[@573rainbow]

Here are the turns if you beat the Water Vellum in 4 turns: Turn 1: Same in video Turn 2: Same in the video Turn 3: same in the video but unsolved mystery Turn 4: Shiny Iron boots/Shiny Boots(x2 and +1A)

[@Zero_de_Nova]

Nice Video, Nice Voice! Really liked your Video! Did you ever play to make a Video about beating the bosse with the lowest HP lose?

[@ZXMany]

Thanks so much, really glad you enjoyed the video! That's a good idea! I know it's possible to beat several bosses without taking any damage, and it'd be interesting to see that for other bosses. I'm working on something similar right now, you can click subscribe to be notified when it comes out if you'd like! And subscribing really helps me out if you'd like to :)

[@thomassanchez9324]

How do you go to the bosses in the Battle lab

[@ZXMany]

It's at the center of Toad Town just to the left of the Museum :) You go into the basement there, and you can face bosses that you've defeated already

[@OrionAltHist]

What even is a "Vellumental"? Any relation to like an elemental or something?

[@ZXMany]

Great question! We aren't really given much backstory about them, they just don't like being folded into origami apparently ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@OrionAltHist]

@@ZXMany The game developers didn't put much thought into that anyway. Also, those papercraft battles from Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam would've fit pretty well in this game.

[@ZXMany]

@@OrionAltHist I haven't played that game yet, I'm really behind on games released in the last few years! How is that game?

[@OrionAltHist]

@@ZXMany It's rly good and way better than all of the post-2007 PM games. Also the last time that Paper Mario'll ever have a level up screen.

[@michellekennedy4736]

i used the earth vellumental on the ice vellumental and it broke his ice and kept me safe from his role attack

[@ZXMany]

Oh wow, that's really cool! That's really great to know, thanks so much for bringing that to my attention!

[@warislekhpt2-thBNK48fans]

That’s really helpful to make me beat bosses quicker in Paper Mario Origami King 👍🏼

[@Nora_Muse_]

Why not try to get x2 or a+1 to get as close as possible?

[@ZXMany]

In turn 3 of the water vellumental? You can do that, but the boss will still be defeated on the 5th turn anyways, so if you're speedrunning, it's just extra time that doesn't make the fight any faster. If someone could get a+1 and x2 and attack in turn 3, then the boss could be finished in 4 turns, and that would save a lot of time

[@dimipzc3420]

​@@ZXMany It's a bit more problematic than that; it's possible to get both the +1 and x2 attack on turn 3, but doing so leaves you in the outer 2 rows. Because of that, you are outside of hammer range, and hammer is the only way you can deal enough damage to 4 turn the boss. Considering I found a 3 turn kill for the Earth Vellumental tutorial fight and a faster method for the 3 turn Earth Vellumental battle lab kill, I was determined to figure out a way to 4 turn the water Vellumental, and I still have yet to find a method... in the battle lab. See, Water Vellumental is possible to 4 turn when you fight it in the shrine, as you can have more than 70 health at that point; in fact, you can have 100 health if you're a determined explorer and nab a +20 from the princess peach ship. Not that it's required though, as the 4 turn only requires 80 health and most players will probably have that if they've just been playing along and picked up the two +5 hearts in autumn mountain. More health means more damage, which means you can make up for the lost damage you lose from not being able to 2x hammer the boss on turn 3.

[@ZXMany]

@@dimipzc3420 Awesome! Yeah, I'm wondering if we can ever find a way to get a 4 turn WV in the Battle Lab, that would be a huge finding!

[@Poooob]

Zxmany can you help me defeat the rubber band boss please?

[@Poooob]

Maybe not?

[@ben_outof10]

Used these to get the treasure in the bossotronic fighter machine thingamy, it helped so much

[@A_rather_strange_mario_fan]

Uh, question. Who’s your favourite member of the legion of stationery? With me it’s probably rubber band (because it’s pretty funny lol) or tape.

[@ymasterwoodson9302]

You know we should ask mario about all this pain mario? Oh he's traumatized welp he'll see you in therapy goodnight

[@Doc_Animator_N]

Wow! You pulled off a Sword Art Online victory against Rubber Band.

[@starmanjuju4794]

Bro thx do. Much I was crying so much and kept saying "it's impossible I just can't win" but thx so much

[@oshmiver]

What happens if my attack panel is never in the right spot on handacobra, someone help!

[@reversedimage24]

3:57 Never noticed the attack was named wing ding... “Thinks of undertale wing ding language”

[@ronzstavo]

For Colored Pencils, wouldn’t getting an Excellent on the 1st turn hammer do more damage and remove the need for the 4th turn?

[@jeffdixon7651]

People not it will was tam

[@CrypticWaves]

Woo 300 subs🥳

[@ZXMany]

On the way to 1000!

[@leslieannchan7036]

I love your videos zxmany.

[@brookemason9672]

For the ice maze all you have to do is take 2pictures then draw it out then solve how you drew it out

[@ZXMany]

Yeah! That strategy can definitely work :) Some strategies also just bring an attack panel to Mario where he uses a fireflower to defeat the boss, so he doesn't even solve the ice maze 😂

[@rayan40397]

Thanks. That rubber band boss is so annoying.

[@ZXMany]

No problem! Yeah, rubber band can be really tough! There are more guides on my channel if you get to another difficult part, and subscribing really helps me out if you'd like to!

[@rayan40397]

Great! I subscribed btw.

[@ZXMany]

@@rayan40397 Thanks so much, really appreciate that!

[@kingcon6623]

What is the song in the beginning?

[@ZXMany]

"Toad Town in Trouble" from Paper Mario: The Origami King :) The part used starts at about 23 seconds into the song

[@kingcon6623]

@@ZXMany Thank you man. Congrats on the big 1k as well. Glad to be one of your subscribers!

[@ZXMany]

@@kingcon6623 You're very welcome! I had to do some digging for it, I couldn't find the song or the video file hahaha. And thank you so much! Hope you enjoy the content :)

[@jonathanbaenziger3182]

Guess these methods depend solely on luck most of the time. I tried this for the Hole Punch enemy and, it took a bit more than 4 turns to win. Took me 7 instead. Still, not that difficult of an enemy, all in all. I just didn't get the luck you did with the A+1 and X2 panels. Whenever I opened a chest to get them, they would always land on the exact same ring. Oh well. Got through the boss regardless.

[@chrissvideos5423]

What about king olly second phase and third phase?

[@ZXMany]

Great question! They aren't turn-based so I didn't include them in how many turns it takes to beat them :)

[@chrissvideos5423]

Oh alright

[@goldenyoshistar1]

Hmmm.... has anyone ever tried for the Ice Vellumental not damaging the boss enough to trigger the last phase but still using Thousand Fold Arms and only hitting him enough to that you could still use the Thousand Fold Arms again and not deal with the Ice Maze?

[@goldenyoshistar1]

would that save the time it takes to solve the maze?

[@ZXMany]

@@goldenyoshistar1 There's two strategies that I've seen people working on: (1) some speedrunners are trying to find out a strategy to avoid the ice maze, and (2) some speedrunners do enough damage so that when ice maze happens, they can finish off the boss by bringing an attack panel right to Mario and using a fireflower instead of solving the maze

[@jcj7123]

Fun fact you can know what MAnaconda will do in the rock papers scissors face by looking at its hand

[@GoldenYoshi1]

Consider me subbed! But hey... how did you turn off the music in-game? XD

[@ZXMany]

Thank you very much! Part of it is just removing all of the audio and putting another audio on top in video editing software. For another video, I made Paper Mario The Origami King except sped up by 5% every time someone says "Mario," so I wanted to record that without audio because the audio would get weird very quickly. One way of playing the game without in-game music is on an emulator like yuzu

[@mysterium3y3]

What if you turn on the rings and then get a hear next turn

[@sharpiefromWOW]

When I try to do the Colored Pencils battle, I can’t get the A+1 panel on the second turn! Do you know why?

[@ZXMany]

When you say you can't get it, do you mean it doesn't appear, or it does appear but you can't get it in your path?

[@sharpiefromWOW]

ZXMany It doesn’t appear.

[@ZXMany]

@@sharpiefromWOW Is there a treasure chest that appears in the first turn? Sometimes some panels are hidden in treasure chests and you have to pass by them for the panels to be available the next turn

[@sharpiefromWOW]

ZXMany I don’t think so.

[@ZXMany]

@@sharpiefromWOW I have two other ideas that might be the solution: (1) Are you doing the action commands for the hammer attack and blocking? For some bosses, the game thinks you're bad if you don't get action commands, so it makes the next turn easier. You can try using the hammer attack in turn 1 without the action command and/ or not blocking the boss' first attack (2) If the first idea doesn't work, maybe it's random which panels appear. In this video I had an A+1 panel in the second turn, but I just checked my guide video devoted to the Colored Pencils boss, and I don't have an A+1 panel there, which is a bit strange. I noticed that when I got a "great" action command on the first turn, the panel didn't show up, and when I got "nice" it did show up, so maybe (1) is correct Let me know if you try it and it works!

[@ivydarko9088]

In the cutout boss look at its hand it will do a synbol then it will do the opposite of it

[@cagandemircioglu8216]

Hole Punch is my favourite

[@ZXMany]

Hole Punch is a sweet boss, the level design was nice too :)

[@jellyman1864]

It’s funny how the final fight is possible in 4 turns because 2 vellums and 2 turns each vellum 2x2=4 turns

[@denischen8196]

For scissors, the video says to use Legendary Iron Boots, but it shows Legendary Boots.

[@angryfurybowser7429]

I was able to figure out that puzzle I did some careful movements and I was able to get the A+ one pin on the double damage panel and the Thousand folds arm Circle when it's ready for the next turn

[@PlagelKnigchenko]

Turn 2 in water vellum does not works. How am I supposed to place x2 panel there?

[@PlagelKnigchenko]

Nevermind, figured it out.

[@ZXMany]

Glad you got it!

[@dmadz3834]

Water Vellumental:right, up, x2, plus1, attack

[@arthurdabest8569]

In the handaconda, I was really lucky and won the rock paper scissors on turns 3 and 4

[@ZXMany]

That's awesome!

[@reddog6363]

What are you doing to get a "9" damage when using the fire flower in the Stapler boss. When I use it I only get a "6" damage?

[@ZXMany]

I'm guessing the difference is either a shiny fire flower vs a regular fire flower, or getting the action commands: if you look closely at Mario's hand, when the fire ball just starts to form, you can hit the "A" button and you'll get the action command, doing a bit more damage. Hope that helps!

[@The.Real.Strudl]

14:50 1 legendary hammer hit does the trick too

[@OrionAltHist]

Then ppl are just going to forget all about this game when an inevitable sequel comes out

[@ZXMany]

It's a pretty fun one :) Do you have a favourite Paper Mario?

[@OrionAltHist]

@@ZXMany 2nd & third games. Also really liked Paper Jam.

[@anthonypaglucci2978]

I was having trouble with hole puncher and I didn't know where he's weak spot was when I first got to his battle Diane looked on the KZbin and the KZbin said the weak spot on the hole puncher is the back so I went back to this boss and use the hammer and deal damage

[@carter.k7931]

I remember I defeated the water vellumental with the 1000 fold arms when I played this game

[@connorspratt9435]

IDEA: Fpr turn 3 on the w vell get the +1 attack to jump and hammer after that it will be on the ground then use the earth vellumental to deal 50 damage (this might work)

[@connorspratt9435]

I'm not certain because it probably takes flight again for its final attack

[@thegreenthundermrl6627]

What powers do u posses?!

[@aidenb200]

Everybody gangsta till the final boss turns into a legendary pokemon

[@charlescalvin4678]

I officially beat the Earth Vellumental, and Jean-Pierre Coloured Pensils the 12th. I am so happy

[@ZXMany]

That's awesome, congrats!!

[@charlescalvin4678]

@@ZXMany thanks! I'm in the water Vellumental's lair!

[@ZXMany]

@@charlescalvin4678 Good luck!

[@charlescalvin4678]

@@ZXMany well hey, thanks!

[@charlescalvin4678]

Stuck at the water wheel part XD