Beautiful flight to Orcas Island in the San Juan island chain of Washington State

[@v4yt126]

The W is silent in Greenwich ::)

[@JollyRogerAviation]

Lol I honestly didn’t know that 🤣

[@markberman8958]

Looks like you were pushing your fatigue envelope here to get the flight in for Tina. We all do it. Myself included. It’s always ok to say you know what honey I think we shouldn’t do the trip tonight. I’m not 100% and I think it’s definitely safer just to reschedule it. Better to live and fight another day than the alternative. As Pilot’s, it’s up to us to make the go no go final call. But often times your passenger will really appreciate the honest assessment even if it means an inconvenience. The Legacy demands that we’re 100% every time we climb into the cockpit. She’s one hell of a slick bird. Slippery, Speed for days and handling characteristics to match. But she can be unforgiving as all get out as well. Proud of you for sharing this with us. I already have a ton of respect for you and your flying. Sharing this teachable moment just increases it! Fly safe and keep cranking out these fantastic videos!

[@JollyRogerAviation]

Thanks for the comment Mark. I was running on adrenaline and Redbull and didn’t even really know I was fatigued / tired until I started messing up those calls. I agree with you on the go - no go call bring one of the hardest and I just decided last week to drive to a wedding instead of flying due to weather. I also think there’s different layers or levels of fatigue and I’ve operated at this level many times in the past. I think there’s levels that are acceptable as long as you acknowledge that you’re not in your A-game and to take it slow & conservative. Thanks again ✌️🤟

[@markberman8958]

@@JollyRogerAviation Completely agree and couldn’t of said it better myself. Fatigue is definitely relative and has layers that impact us all differently. You obviously know your limits and I’m sure you don’t push them. I just don’t want anything to happen to you guys for sure. You’re one of the best Aviation KZbin Channels out there and you’re just getting started on it. I’ve learned an awful lot from you in just a short period of time and want to keep doing so! If you’re ever up North you’re welcome to come fly anytime. Getcha up on the Amphib, Legacy and 39.

[@ericschaefer5407]

Good comment on fatigue , when we are doing snow operations on the runways and taxiways we are running 3 radios, it’s becomes pretty busy!

[@JollyRogerAviation]

It’s the “on autopilot” going through the motions that always makes me extra edgy!

[@christianreynoso2807]

Awesome job with the editing, loved the departure shots over the water!

[@JollyRogerAviation]

Thanks Christian. That tail cam picks up some pretty cool shots!

[@georgedreisch2662]

Thanks for sharing a important lesson. Outstanding crew coordination on Bean’s part. Need to get her a cushion. Most new to aviation people don’t start out IFR, for not being able to see over the glare shield. That said, I’m left going hmmm, how’d she keep it straight and level, when she had the controls… Good job Tina!

[@JollyRogerAviation]

Yeah I think I’ll try one of my race boat seat bottoms for her!

[@flyweldfabricate]

Good breakdown at the end. As a lower hour pilot I appreciate simple tips from more experienced pilots

[@JollyRogerAviation]

That makes me happy to hear. Stay safe! 🤟✌️

[@ShawnPossible]

Beautiful weather!! This is a rarity over there on the west side. Great video!! Keep them coming.

[@JollyRogerAviation]

For sure! Been a nice spring so far!

[@ShawnPossible]

@@JollyRogerAviation Need to make your way over here to MWH. Lunch is on me.

[@karlsandin4515]

be careful out there. as a full time instructor ive had to catch myself a few times, it sneaks up on you

[@JollyRogerAviation]

It really does. That’s why I feel the recognition part is the most important.

[@mljantz]

Such a cool plane. I wanted to see Skagit too 😁

[@JollyRogerAviation]

Skagit River?

[@mljantz]

@@JollyRogerAviation Skagit Speedway when you flew over it.👍

[@JollyRogerAviation]

@@mljantz ahhhhh

[@CLCIII]

Not sure whats happening, but I thought for sure that I watched this and commented on it yesterday. Of course I got a traumatic brain injury. Hmm. Deja Vu. 😂 As Always, May God Bless you and yours! 😇

[@JollyRogerAviation]

Ahhhh I messed up the edit so deleted it and fixed it. 🤟🤞👍

[@CLCIII]

@@JollyRogerAviation Nice to know that I'm not losing it! 🙃

[@paullewis252]

What was the beep, when you commenced going down the runway, just before the announcement angle? I got this impression it may have been a swear 🙂

[@JollyRogerAviation]

Funny….I’m not even sure. I’ll watch and see if I can figure it out.

[@good.morning.everyone]

Don’t fly fatigued, for work or pleasure.

[@JollyRogerAviation]

I get your point but it’s not always that black and white. There’s different levels of fatigue. I’d love to get 8 hours of sleep before a flight but I’m perfectly safe with 6 or maybe even 5. You just need to recognize that your own limits change when you’re not fully rested so that’s when I make more conservative decisions.

[@good.morning.everyone]

@@JollyRogerAviation I don’t disagree. I have flown fatigued and regretted it. I always file a fatigue report with the right people, but let me say that I’ve grown utired of regretting flying in a degraded mental state. You just never know when you’ll need 100%, and I don’t intend to find out I’ve come up short. I’d love to chat about this over a slice of pie or a beer one day, but I have a little more insight into this issue than you may be aware. I work for a cargo operation now and I used to fly for a certain airline that is headquartered at the Pythagorean Pond, and I’ve never been as fatigued as flying for them. Cargo gets a bad wrap, at least we respect fatiguing pairings. Just look at our fatigue call percentage per block hour. We’re not better at handling fatigue as pilots, we’re better at scheduling. Part 117 didn’t do much for rest rules, but it did make it look like congress knew how to fix a problem. Having flown under both rule sets, it’s not the rules that make the difference, it’s the pilot group and the company’s willingness to accommodate pilots in the quest for safe and reliable schedules.

[@dabenger]

Really great video. I think if you do a video like this that's a little self-critical, its important to clarify that youre a former fighter pilot with thousands of houra of experience flying jets and other aircraft, and that you have a really healthy, developed sense of your personal minimums. I know that from your previous videos, but it is not contextualized in this one. It might be ok for you to fly "fatigued" because youre a highly trained professional and that level of fatigue is still well within your personal limits, esepcially on a GA aircraft like this. But it would be a wholly different ballgame for a student pilot or newly minted PPL.

[@markberman8958]

There’s nothing “GA” about the Lancair Legacy. It takes precision planning and highly experienced inputs to stay ahead of the Aircraft. 230+ Knots with a wing area of 82.5 leads to a highly demanding airframe. It’s a true Pilot’s aircraft and requires respect, experience and humility. The second you disrespect the aircraft, conditions, human factors Etc is the second you end up dead flying the Legacy.

[@JollyRogerAviation]

I get your point for sure and will consider it. I’m a bit hesitant though as I feel like a lot of pilots kinda boast about their resume on social media and I don’t want to do that. I’m just another yahoo screwing things up lol . Does that make sense?

[@dabenger]

@@JollyRogerAviation I completely get that. But I think there is value in the "I'm a trained professional, kids don't try this at home" plug. It's not about boasting, but it is an opportunity to explain how personal minimums can expand and evolve with experience. I don't want to come off as too much of a critic. It was a great video, and I'm a big fan of the channel. It was just a thought. Student pilots and low-time pilots watch aviation youtubers to learn (even the ones who explicitly say their content is for entertainment only) so why not take a quick teaching opportunity?

[@vehdynam]

Thanks for the video , but flying with fatigue can;t be safe ( even though I am not a flier). Stay safe.

[@JollyRogerAviation]

There’s different levels of fatigue for sure. I know my limit and have definitely made a fatigue call or two to my airline when I know I’ve reached it. Most important thing in my opinion is just recognizing it!

[@dreamcreator2552]

So what level of experience does one need to fly a Legacy safely? Not everyone is a former military pilot. The accident rate implies perhaps “only military pilots should apply…”

[@JollyRogerAviation]

That’s a fair and good question that I honestly don’t know how to answer. I know the builder was just a recreational pilot and did just fine in it. I also see myself getting really behind the airplane when I’m not flying it regularly so proficiency would probably be more important than background. I’d definitely get dual time until YOU and only YOU feels comfortable enough to say….I got this!

[@dreamcreator2552]

@@JollyRogerAviation Thanks for the excellent reply. The problem is we are all human and subject to all that goes along with that…. 😀. If I end up pursuing this aircraft type your words will definitely echo in my mind and be reflected in my training/currency regimen. It’s good to know former fighter pilots are human too. Thanks for your service…

[@Pumpkin-Brain]

Wouldn’t a mid-air podcast with someone be kinda cool.?

[@fulltimber]

No

[@JollyRogerAviation]

Hmmmmm 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@thezeek2745]

Shouldn’t be flying fatigued AT ALL

[@JollyRogerAviation]

I get your point but it’s not that black & white. There’s varying levels of fatigue. Over my years, I’ve recognized what I can safely operate under and what I can’t. I have absolutely made the decision to not go flying because I knew I wasn’t fit to do so. Recognizing the onset and knowing your own limitations is the most important thing in my opinion.