Beaver dam removal went wrong 😟

[@beebop9808]

9:22 beaver behind pine tree rolling on the ground laughing his ass off. hahahaha

[@AFHProjects]

There is more than one.

[@beebop9808]

Lol

[@tinydancer7426]

Yeah, once the human was done, you could just faintly hear, "I have a dam to rebuild, hold my beer."

[@sixtoes2313]

Beaver's had grand stands set up. Big Louie the beaver; in the back taken bets.

[@vicyazzie1883]

And your worried about a beaver dam? Beavers all chilln getting tips from dumb ass human what not to do.

[@bobreital6991]

Anyone else see the 2 beavers drinking beer and laughing at him??

[@AFHProjects]

Yeah... They had good time.

[@ДэллемЖадный]

Бобры снимали это видео 😁

[@laszloolah6762]

@@AFHProjects pp0009

[@theirishman8356]

I did. Saw the bear too...

[@becky6467]

🤣

[@kennethhume8628]

Don’t worry about the arm chair critics . Most operators wouldn’t have the guts to put a problem like this on Facebook , 👍👍👍

[@AFHProjects]

Sometimes happens. Why to show only a good things.

[@makoshark40]

@@AFHProjects hell i dont think i would of tried crossing it myself id feel certain i would get stuck, theres what that top1% that might actually not get stuck in this and thats apparently every comment here in this comment section lol

[@mountainman5025]

@Scott Martin BEFORE THE DAMS WERE THERE

[@Ivansgarage]

Most operators wouldn't have drove in the creek..

[@MrWaterbugdesign]

Beavers for the win!

[@halfnelson6115]

You done the beavers a favor and dug em a nice new pond.

[@gagiotter4114]

I have come to learn that EVERYONE with an excavator will eventually find them selves in such a situation (might not even be their fault) so seing this and what it takes to get out is a really valuable. Thank you for posting and letting us learn.

[@AFHProjects]

Thank you!

[@ninaallen7849]

Just a tip when trying to pull yourself out use joystick while pulling and move yourself side to side to break suction while pulling also seems to give tracks lil extra boost

[@AFHProjects]

Yea, a did all that and I have never seen a excavator that got boost on tracks when you move your boom an tracks together. This excavator don't have extra hydraulic pump for tracks or something.

[@АнатолийБогданов-ч3р]

👍 Handsome excavator!!Pretty boy!!👍

[@lindamitchell-fox1926]

That my friend was a big ole’ mess. Glad you got out although it must have been so frustrating.

[@AFHProjects]

Yeah, that was stupid thing.

[@HWPcville]

Having no experience whatsoever, I have a curiosity question. If it were permissible, once stuck, would it have been possible to dig the opposing bank down to the level, maybe lower, of the stuck machine? Dig under the front tracks and place the drier dirt there for a base? Do this until the tracks could get traction and clear of the mud? Is what I described even possible? I know you were relieved once you got out. Thanks for posting.

[@AFHProjects]

It is possible. But in this case the water is flowing through and fills the hole. But we dug out the wet clay all the time and put the dry dirt back under the tracks. Basically we did this way.

[@jondano8249]

Great vid and great shots. Great getting it unstuck!

[@AFHProjects]

Thanks!

[@sauliusurbonas9892]

I believe this video will be a good lesson for beginner excavator operators on what not to do with an excavator.

[@D4m4g3d]

Reminds me of the time i got stuck next to a pond, the ground was soft under the surface but looked solid on top.... was just driving and boom sunk down to the frame.

[@dpd16790]

been there before myself... took a lot of digging but i got it out...

[@bouchee2007]

legitimate question. when you are stuck in a situation like that, i notice you kept trying to go forward and pull yourself out. why not swing around and try and push yourself out? and specific reason?

[@AFHProjects]

Hydraulic is stronger that way and you can lift the front same time.

[@rwwhite31]

There we're a few times that if you had turned around and pushed you would have come on out of there I've been bogged down in that same situation before

[@AFHProjects]

Yeah, maybe. I,m tried this many times with this excavator. It helps only when you can get a right angle for boom and stick. This machine is too weak this way.

[@FattyMatty024]

When you pull yourself you pick up the leading edge of the tracks to get up on things. In this situation you would just push yourself deeper especially in the bottom of a drainage ditch. I’m wet mud like that suction is your worst enemy.

[@AFHProjects]

@@FattyMatty024 Yeah, that's right. I know that well but as you see I didn't do that enough when I was going into the ditch. I realized this immediately when I reached the bottom and I knew that now probably I get stuck. I broke the bottom of the ditch with the tracks leading edge.

[@kristi.kervin]

Were the beaver dams causing damage to homes or roadways? Can you maybe explain why destroying their habitat was necessary?

[@AFHProjects]

Here we needed to remove the dam because we raised the water with pond dam and we didn't want to leave the dams under the water. Basically we removed the dams and raised water back up. So beavers got more water to live on.

[@tomortale2333]

BEAVERS AN OTTERS are considered to be pests + they chew down trees so u can't hug

[@musgaros4880]

To be honest that ditch did look ok to go across until you got in there my god you kept sinking but glad you got it out , I’ll remember this when I have something like that to do thanks for uploading 👍🏼

[@AFHProjects]

Thanks 👍

[@emptymaker9752]

I love your property! Indiana doesnt have that kind of beauty!

[@AFHProjects]

Thank you!

[@Sibbe2560]

I was one of the beavers which was responsible fore the construction of those dams. Although I wasn’t pleased you ruining my work, me and my coworkers had the time of our life looking at you getting stuck in the ditch and your struggle to get out. For your information: the construction drawings for some new dams are already there. The actual build starts next week. Cheers.

[@AFHProjects]

There is a water level up already with pond dam. So you can just chill. Cheers!

[@donbrashsux]

Where is this filmed.. it looks like a beautiful place

[@AFHProjects]

In Estonia.

[@donbrashsux]

AFH Projects .. very nice

[@ChironZore]

Love the flip-flops

[@tomortale2333]

MR. EXCAVATOR /great job NICELY DONE!

[@TerrellSpivey]

Wow!! That was interesting! Lol Never seen an oscillating bucket like that before either!

[@thomasdowell4368]

That was freaking awesome, truly 2 very professional operators, not their first time behind those LEVERS.

[@purabolea3744]

First time dam clearing for sure?.................stick with what you know.

[@davidmiller6010]

Amazing how the tire machine was able to come to the rescue of the track machine!

[@johnrichardson82]

It didn’t drive in the muck

[@rd-ch1on]

Thanks for the video. Glad you got out without too much damage. The only people who don't make mistakes are the ones that never do anything :) . How many hours did it take to get the machine out?

[@AFHProjects]

Thanks for this comment. It took all night long. 14h

[@leejproductions27]

Did you think about going up stream to where it is not so steep to get out. Sometime our lack of looking at all the solutions limits us.

[@AFHProjects]

I did, but I can't turn the tracks to go that way.

[@houstonfirefox]

I thought #beaversrevenge was something that once you caught it, you'd have to go to the doctor to get fixed? Oh well, heavy machinery is cool too! Nice job getting it out!

[@raeanker3078]

Houston Firefox Houston you actually made me spit my coffee out when I read your comment ,thanks for the laugh.

[@mbrent8673]

Cool you made your own dam

[@patriciaboyer2675]

Seeing you save your toy was awesome.

[@AFHProjects]

Thank you!

[@Towtruckzack]

Watch letsdig18 he’s always working in muddy ponds gotta have mats

[@AFHProjects]

I know, but I didn't get any because I thought that all is fine.

[@Towtruckzack]

It happens and will again its just part of it

[@mhenhawke5093]

Great video, glad you got your machine out. So do the beavers live in your pond now?. If you dont mind me asking how long did it take to get your machine out?. M. Canada.

[@AFHProjects]

Thanks! Yes they live in pond now. 14h of hard work!

[@mhenhawke5093]

@@AFHProjects Really 14 hrs, i thought it would of been like 3 days. Well done. Thanks for replying and sharing. Take care ,stay safe. M.

[@AFHProjects]

Yeah, at the evening around 16:00 I messed it up and at the morning 6:00 it was done. 8:00 I have to start another 24h shift at main work.

[@mhenhawke5093]

@@AFHProjects wow!

[@McBuggs.]

Have you ever considered Dynamite? ...It rids of Beaver Dams very quick and simple without wear and tear on mechanical equipment. I've seen one blown up and so I thought I'd mention this other option to you.

[@AFHProjects]

It's not so easy to use explosives in Estonia. You can't just buy it an use it.

[@lorenesleap2757]

Just love it when a beaver dam is destroyed. Love seeing the water flow the way it should.

[@AFHProjects]

Yes, I destroyed the dam because the water level is going up here due to the pond that I dug before.

[@fatbelly2438]

could you add a winch to the excavator for when you get in trouble..get yourself out?

[@AFHProjects]

Theoretically, you can do that. Everything is possible.

[@bryanleslie4409]

Looks like your dog is enjoying the water.

[@brainclerk4431]

Only when you've got in a pickle like this do you become an experienced operator , if you don't push boundaries you`ll never be confident enough to know it's capabilities and make a right choice !

[@AFHProjects]

It's true. I learned a lot.

[@TsunauticusIV]

That’s one thing you get to learn when working with companies over the years. Especially companies that like to hire inexperienced “cheap” “operators”. 😂 when I first started in the field I worked for a few of those companies. I got to see a LOT of crazy things happen. Drug addicts blacking out at the controls of excavators. One guy slumped over the swing stick and was spinning wide open for hours. Cops came. They tried throwing rocks at the cab to wake him up. Didn’t work. 😂 he finally woke up and stopped. Cop ran up and opened the door. Guy had a needle in his arm. Scary stuff.

[@brainclerk4431]

@@TsunauticusIV jeez what a story to tell, people are bonkers !

[@chiloeindomito8957]

Hola !! menos mal salio ....todo tiene arreglo, pero perder una excavadora no...saludos!!

[@AFHProjects]

@Chiloé Indómito Gracias!

[@johnmccrank7170]

Thats one dam that would have been better left alone, the amount of making good required far outweighs any improvements. Also the removal can cause flooding damage elsewhere.

[@theravedaddy]

Well unlike all the experts below i throughly enjoyed watching you get out of there! ....but then i ofter have to dig myself off the sides of mountains with hand tools.

[@jonathanbrady31]

Wow I see now that was a cluster ....*thank you for the videos I'll keep watching. Where is this located?

[@AFHProjects]

In Estonia. Cheers!

[@jonathanbrady31]

@@AFHProjects I'm OHIO,USA.. freedom

[@jonathanbrady31]

@@AFHProjects glad to meet you friend 👍✌️

[@jonathanbrady31]

@@AFHProjects below Finland, neighbors with Putin

[@AFHProjects]

Yeah, but I Love Estonia.

[@theholytoast]

That rapid's project is exactly the kind of noise that beavers make dams to stop. They'll be back.

[@joshandicoechea5866]

Damm good idea to lift The counterweight so you don’t swing in the mud put mud in the bucket and bounce that was awesome never thought about that been operating for over 20 years see you learn something new every day 🤟🏻👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@AFHProjects]

Yess... Something good in my video. 😃

[@luckyinday5921]

Next time bring big board to make a ramp just in case , safety first ! Beaver FLAG is waving in other side ! Congrats you made it... Beaver he's back ..run and swim for your life ...hahaha

[@yooper6161]

How nice! You destroyed the beaver ponds but then made them a nice new one under the bridge.

[@AFHProjects]

Yep... Need to fix that one day.

[@jerknamesmith5903]

No Dam Beavers were harmed in the making of this video. Makes this guy a home wrecker.

[@oacartg2183]

What if you just took the debris and got a hold of it and then set it into the water that's going downstream or would that just clog the stream down downhill I'm not sure but it seems like it would be the easy way to get rid of it at first when it first opens up there's that big giant waterfall or tidal wave if you will I don't know I could be wrong I could be absolutely wrong I'm not there I don't know I'm just wondering thank you very much I appreciate the content bye

[@BAC54746]

What is geotextile used for? Sides will move with the wind

[@AFHProjects]

To prevent erosion.

[@damianbutterworth2434]

They are bringing beavers back to the UK. Do they cause more problems than good?

[@AFHProjects]

They do both I think. Depends which way you look.

[@daciatravel.647]

Very nice work!

[@AFHProjects]

Thank you! 🤣

[@RoySATX]

I'm not a machine operator, haven't even played one on TV, but I have owned pickups (and a '91 Ford Festiva, my personal favorite) that I've gotten mudded up pretty deep before. Floor mats and dry brush always saved the day. I got the Festiva in a couple situations far worse than you have here where everyone was telling me to give it up and let it RIP as it was already mostly buried, but that silly smurf blue car never let me down and always managed to dig itself out once I sacrificed the floor mats and fed it some scrub brush! Don't tell the ladies, but we know it's all worth it if you're having fun.

[@bongodrumzz]

The best thing about getting stuck in a 4x4 especially in mud (hip deep) is having my sons along, oh boy did they enjoy it lol, we still talk about it today, 'The Day Dad Got His Truck Stuck' lol. Maybe I should write a book about it, might make a good kids story, apart from all the swearing lol

[@zzirSnipzz1]

Wonder if you had lifted the boom as far as it would go and the dipper right in when turning you might have been able to push yourself up properly looked like you were pulling yourself in were you placed the bucket no expert just something to think on if ever in that situation again always easy to think about different tactics watching a video tbf. Stay safe and take care

[@AFHProjects]

Thanks! It's too weak to push like this and you push the back of the excavator into the ground this way. If you pull, it's stronger and you can lift your front same time.

[@pnwRC.]

WOWZERS! That turned out to be a mess. At least you had another machine with witch to extract yourself!

[@ehsnils]

For a more spectacular dam removal - explosives. At least you got out of that ditch again. So how about a stronger bridge that can carry the machine in the future?

[@AFHProjects]

I will make a dam for beavers and that will carry some heavy equipment too.

[@wholebird]

Why is this trench there in the first place? A moat? Beavers are good for local hydrology and fire protection. Pretty wild experience! Glad you're okay.

[@AFHProjects]

This ditch is for water that comes from different places and lakes.

[@xDreadheadx]

Great save

[@KPearce57]

Another fine mess you've gotten into Ollie.

[@terrysweat4187]

WoW what a mess,, and I’m glad you said it first, and I’m not gonna say anything bad because after 37 years operating heavy equipment I’ve found myself in that same situation before and y’all rescued your machine that’s what counts. And I’m sure that you will think twice before trying to cross a simple looking ditch again. Great job guy’s keep on digging and get them beavers 🦫

[@AFHProjects]

Thanks! That was hard lesson for sure.

[@dungeondark]

Thumbs are relatively cheap. Next time you might want to consider mats. The thumb would help a lot for picking the debris out too. I would have been afraid to go into a bog like that without mats. I would have sunk out of site with my narrow rubber tracks too. Anyway, thanks for sharing just how easy it is to get jammed up. Things like that make me think thrice before jumping off in a creek.

[@AFHProjects]

Yeah, that was hard lesson for me too.

[@dungeondark]

@@AFHProjects Oh, well... you probably saved someone else a lot of grief. I had a similar experience in a sand pit with a 1 ton and trailer. Had t o drag it out with the excavator.

[@bryanjohnson8204]

Beautiful country but painful to watch, glad you made it out and shared.

[@AFHProjects]

Glad you enjoyed it! I will fix this place soon.

[@FLYBOY123456789]

puts some serious tracks on that "whatever" scooper..,.not slicks but some serious plates....that dig in...

[@ClinttheGreat]

FLYBOY123456789 Was thinking this myself.

[@AFHProjects]

Tracks are just fine.

[@davidchristensen6908]

Your right you posted a problem, that’s a plus for you. Let’s see it put back

[@brockshields9336]

I guess you ended up on the side of the creek you wanted to be. I was anxious the whole time watching you. I bet you were to. Were you able to re-secure the bridge?

[@AFHProjects]

Maby we make a dam there and pond.

[@caseyfouts5490]

it is pretty funny after the fact when it is not happening to you. I did something similar with an excavator a couple times. I noticed how you tried to pull yourself out the way you came. When i had done it my first time I only went about half as far as you were extended, dug my bucket blade in and lifted as high as i could go up before pulling while driving. Repeat as needed. Once my tracks were about a quater on dryer soil i swung around and pushed while driving. A lot less damage. But I can kinda see that the back of your machine might not have made it acceptable.

[@rwwhite31]

I agree there was a couple times he could have turned around and pushed and come on up out of that hole

[@AFHProjects]

Not enough power to push!

[@muleb384]

I once got a skidsteer stuck in some stuff like that. The more I tried to get myself out, the worse it got. I had to have a friend extend planks to me over the swamp so I could get out of the cabin. Luckily my neighbor was working his field with his big 9R with tracks, he was able to pull me out. Once nature patched in the area, it did make a nice little deep spot by the creek, kids can swim in it lol. My engine bay was hit too, full of swamp gunk, smells like a turtle's gym sock.

[@AFHProjects]

Yeah, I try to stick with the rule that if you cant make it better with in a hour then it's time to stop trying and get some help.

[@leroyaultmon2533]

I like your ambition you did not give up good work

[@athollmcnicoll256]

Well that is another fine mess you got me into Stanley - now get on the horn and get someone down here to get me out!

[@bevfrench3496]

the tread on that thing looks to be very smooth and i don't think it is just mud filling in.

[@AFHProjects]

It has at least 50% left. Thats not the case here. Yeah, the new ones are more sharp but it is what it is.

[@Wyrm1701]

You know, that dam is just sticks and mud. Plus, plenty of water there. So why not float a high pressure pump on the dammed water and use a water jet to disrupt the dam?

[@AFHProjects]

It's possible. They cut metal with water jet, so the dam is not a problem.

[@jeffreyhouston2043]

First time running an excavator ?

[@roadrash90]

Damn, I'm glad we don't have beavers in my country ha. Have you ever thought of making a bracket for the back of the machine to carry 2-3 wooden mats, or time for the bigger tracks. I used to work on the bogs in Ireland cutting turf, drawing/windrowing peat and ditch digging and we would have massive tracks on the xe 100s and trackers, you should look up on here Irish turf cutting and Bord na Móna stuck. Thanks for the great upload. 👍

[@AFHProjects]

Thanks for this comment. Some wooden mats would not do any harm, but so far not much needed. Maybe I will build some one day.

[@michaelmcneil4168]

I was thinking, a lot of the dam could have been fed under the machine with a dollop of hindsight.

[@andyjones6361]

Was it worth it?

[@AFHProjects]

Of course not.

[@charleswieand4445]

When you were in ditch before was that before beavers turned it all to mud . Could have sloped sides put dirt in ditch drove over then dug it out

[@AFHProjects]

Yes, but there was water in it. When I lifted the bridge in then yea, I put a little dirt into the ditch and dug it out later.

[@shammi8133]

Try to get a little mix of air and water going into pond if you are going to have fish all looks good

[@jasnihassanjasni6723]

Kena lapik dengan batang pohon baru mudah naik kan mesin tu bro 😊

[@silverload3622]

Did the beavers thank you for the pool you installed for them

[@AFHProjects]

I think they did. I destroyed they're dams, but I raised the pond level up there again. So they have now big open water. I think they are happy now.

[@SC-sf8xt]

Beavers are remarkable animals. Big machines are cool but for something so small it really alters the lwndscape

[@adjustablehammer3749]

Whats the tracking back and forth doing to do except dig you deeper

[@AFHProjects]

If you try to lift the tracks out from mud then you have to move them to brake the suction.

[@rogerbanham6875]

are you digging new foundations for a new bridge

[@AFHProjects]

The excavator is the new foundation, but I dug it too deep, so I had to take it out again.

[@PaulHigginbothamSr]

The hydraulic pump on the Hyundai is about half what it should be. Either the pressure is set too low or the high pressure release valve is damaged or contaminated. Makes the unit 1/2 the machine it could be. The drive motors wouldn't even spin the tracks in one direction. Someone good with hydraulics needs a day with this unit.

[@AFHProjects]

You may be right. It's not the new machine. The pump may worn out too.

[@briananderson8733]

That looked like fun. Went from safe, to about to do something stupid, doing something stupid, realizing stupid, calling in help and digging a deeper hole to get out, then your out. Congratulations. Did you learn anything? Go Beavers !!!

[@AFHProjects]

It's called experience. Learning the limits. Learning the hard way.

[@WhatDayIsItTrumpDay]

Why no toothed bucket? Hard to get traction in the ground without a toothed bucket.

[@AFHProjects]

It's not a big deal. I need grading bucket anyways.

[@excavatorfun6265]

this might sound crazy but i've got 35000 hours in the seat of excavators. It looks like that machine has weak hydros but if its possible in a situation like that for a last resort is to lift your machine completely up onto the counter weight , rotate your rails 90 degrees and walk down the ditch till you can dig your way up the bank

[@digndurt6936]

He couldn't break the suction enough to turn his carriage.

[@AFHProjects]

Wow... The seat hours. Yeah, the suction was so strong. i tried to lift it out but... Actually my plan was to help with this another excavator to brake the suction and lift from tracks but the other excavator driver with more seat hours killed my plan. I don't know why.

[@excavatorfun6265]

@@AFHProjects hahaha yeah I could see how weak that machine is, sometimes it's not the operators fault but the machine is just too weak, happy to see you're out without any damage

[@excavatorfun6265]

@@digndurt6936 I wasn't saying to rotate the upper structure, I was saying to lift the whole machine up standing it on the counter weight that was on the bank , doing that lifts the undercarriage completely in the air and can be rotated to the direction freely

[@butchlake5764]

how much time did you spend on getting the excavator out compared to removing beaver dams? LOL

[@AFHProjects]

14h. Beaver dams 2 maybe.

[@1stFlyingeagle]

Oh, do you not know about planks or first testing ground with a bucket?

[@AFHProjects]

I know that. But I was so confident because I was in there before when I lifted the bridge to place.

[@1stFlyingeagle]

@@AFHProjects Well stuff like this makes great teachers. :-)

[@helenhelps9619]

Better days to come. 👍

[@digndurt6936]

How much did that stunt cost you?

[@AFHProjects]

Fuel, door glass and a bit to other excavator driver for helping out.

[@randyhertzberg7549]

Just wait til the beavers get one of those TV shister lawyers for removing a dam without environment permit

[@oacartg2183]

Thanks a lot for the laugh man right on good call

[@dougpeterson5257]

Yup it happens sometimes. Luckily you had help getting out. I thought you could make it. More grip on the tracks and you would have probably made it.

[@AFHProjects]

My plan was to get it the other side and put some more logs under the tracks, but this solution wasn't my idea.

[@cl2984]

This remind me of the 'King of the Hill' episode when Dale and Bill get an excavator stuck in a hole and are stuck all day until Hank comes to help them extract themselves. After having this experience, you definitely should watch it because you can relate.

[@slappinshepple]

I enjoyed watching him dig in deeper by moving the tracks back and forth like it was going to magically get him out!

[@slappinshepple]

Of course with my above comment said, i would have never got that machine out.

[@jameslawrence3669]

The smart thing to do would have been use to mats start with. 2nd would have been to block the water from other side of bridge and then dug out deeper on other side.

[@AFHProjects]

Water came from other side.

[@jameslawrence3669]

@@AFHProjects yea i know that is why i said block water from other side in 1st comment

[@AFHProjects]

We blocked the water. But there was too much flow. Later it flowed pass by and the hole was too deep anyways to block something. We just dug it out as fast as we can. I needed to get the excavator out for the morning, because I needed to go to work. We finished it on the morning around 6:00. Started it at the evening 16:00. Worked all night long.

[@hijodejahguide]

Dont want to be rude, but you made a great pool/dam for the beavers there.

[@AFHProjects]

Yeah, they can take a bath there and laugh at me.

[@edajpaps5060]

Excavators: your finished.. Beavers: Hold my beer! haha.

[@rickeyburke2596]

Beavers were having a good laugh.

[@cwmbc]

Needs a better set of tracks. There no grip left on the grouser plates....worn smooth. Just like driving on slick tyres in the rain.

[@AFHProjects]

Yeah, there is around 50% left on it. I'm not a person who likes to waste things. For us, there is plenty of usage left. Fresh plates are always good...

[@tedwpx123]

Too heavy for the bridge?

[@AFHProjects]

Yeah.

[@charleswieand4445]

Crossing backed up mud ditch no no. Should hace dug ramp put dirt in ditch to drive overthen dug out maybe?

[@AFHProjects]

The ditch shores are fine. That's why I went there, but I rushed in and didn't check the bottom. there was soft blue clay. That sucked the tracks in imminently and made it all slippery. Your technic is the right and sure way to go.

[@smithgiovanni39]

Yes, well the tracks are smooth. It's like bald tires, nothing to dig into the terrain. Thats really the only reason I can see why it would've gotten stuck

[@AFHProjects]

Tracks are just muddy not flat.

[@markiootje]

and that all for an beaver dam wowww