Becker BK-7 vs Ontario Rat-7 knife review

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Donnie B All Day

Donnie B All Day

Күн бұрын

Comparing the Becker bk7 and the Ontario rat 7.

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@NGMonocrom
@NGMonocrom 6 жыл бұрын
Bit of misinformation there. Before the folks behind ESEE created ESEE, they contracted out to Ontario to make their designs for them. At first, things were going well. Later, there was a falling out between Randall's Adventure Training and Ontario. So, they decided, "Screw it! We'll make our own knives." And thus ESEE was born. Ontario though, still had the rights to keep making the knives, and they did. Why not, the designs are popular. Ontario couldn't make any of the newer ESEE designs, but the guys over at ESEE had to legally put up with the fact that Ontario could still keep cranking out the older models (such as the RAT-7, which is ESEE's model 6). The only change is that on the current production Ontario knives that were designed by the guys who created ESEE, the Randall's triangle logo was changed to a different one. Yes, it's a bit odd. But you're not dealing with Ontario making copies of the ESEE 6 under the name RAT-7. They are both the same knife with quite frankly very minor differences. (I own both.) The ESEE overall is maybe half a notch better than the Ontario. But the Ontario is a bit longer, and even though its black coating is not as thick, it is applied far better. Unlike the ESEE, you don't have large portions of the protective coating literally carved off in order to advertise the logo. What good is a nice, thick, protective black coating if big chunks of it are missing so the buyer is always reminded of who made the knife. I've seen ESEEs that have had significant rust on the blade.... all inside the frickin' logo! THAT, and the slightly longer blade of the RAT-7 is why I prefer the Ontario over the ESEE. It's the same knife. Among the BK-7 and the Ontario RAT-7, both are excellent knives. On both, you have to replace their crappy sheaths with good aftermarket or custom-made ones. You can leave the handle scales on the RAT-7 alone, as they are perfectly functional. If going with the Becker, replacing those moronically slippery smooth grips is an absolute MUST too. Easiest way to do that is just order the Micarta grips that are optional from the factory. Huge improvement! Absolutely worth the extra money. I have a handful of Becker models from Ka-Bar. My BK10 has custom G-10 grips. My other BKs wear the factory optional Micarta grips.
@DonnieBAllDay
@DonnieBAllDay 6 жыл бұрын
I hear ya. I just know that the RAT team was formed by Jeff Randall and Mike Perrin. Since the collaboration in 2002, things get a little goofy as you pointed out. I completely agree with you on the awful grip on the BK-7. I do absolutely prefer the Esee 6 however. I just get better edge retention on that blade. Thanks for chiming in though, I appreciate it.
@NGMonocrom
@NGMonocrom 6 жыл бұрын
+Donnie B All Day No problem. And, thank you for making a great comparison video.
@ackack1226
@ackack1226 6 жыл бұрын
@@DonnieBAllDay Becker is better
@DonnieBAllDay
@DonnieBAllDay 6 жыл бұрын
I do prefer it a little over the Ontario.
@woofman4796
@woofman4796 6 жыл бұрын
you are partially correct,, the rat 7 is just a tad longer than the esee 6, i have the 5, 6 and junglas
@mooregood2009
@mooregood2009 6 жыл бұрын
And that is how a comparison and review is done. Good job !
@DonnieBAllDay
@DonnieBAllDay 3 жыл бұрын
thans bro
@FangTech-yf3qy
@FangTech-yf3qy 5 ай бұрын
I owned BK7 for 10 years, and it has cut through just about everything. Including a down tree after a storm. Splitting wood and have accidentally hit rocks sometimes. The knife barely has any nick. Great knife.
@DonnieBAllDay
@DonnieBAllDay 5 ай бұрын
great blade for sure
@jamescooper2618
@jamescooper2618 5 жыл бұрын
In actual use, the becker handles work just fine, especially if you wear gloves. Sometimes, with a handle with a lot of traction, you have to wear glove to avoid a hotspot on your hand. I like the BK handles. They feel better to me doing heavy work. BK7 is a badass blade no matter how you look at it.
@DonnieBAllDay
@DonnieBAllDay 5 жыл бұрын
They are without a doubt. With gloves, the grips are flawless. I do all my reviews without gloves simply to give honest feel. Not everyone has the same gloves, so it keeps the reviews honest going barehanded. Even though they are a little slick, I prefer the shape. The finger swells are a great hold.
@jamescooper2618
@jamescooper2618 5 жыл бұрын
@@DonnieBAllDay Sure. Everyone is different. Take care!
@davevalerie6708
@davevalerie6708 5 жыл бұрын
I own the ESEE-6, as well as the BK-7, as well as most every other Becker, and ESEE made. Both are very nice. I find myself using the BK-7 more, only because the ESEE is so nice. But that is my issue. Can't say anything about the RAT, but the ESEE-6 I would put into that category. The BK is a great wilderness blade though, and tough as hell. Really can't go wrong with either.
@DonnieBAllDay
@DonnieBAllDay 5 жыл бұрын
No doubt doubt. Own 'em all, love 'em all. The Esee is nearly untouchable. Not sure if you ever checked out the Steel Will Roamer 305 or the Steel Will Druid 200, both in D2, but they are awesome. Did vids on both.
@brianf9619
@brianf9619 5 жыл бұрын
I own Both , and the bottom line is they are 2 of the Best Survival / Camp knives under $100.00 , you can't go wrong with either one. You can customized both of them , over time , the way you want . I bought micarta scales for my BK7 and got kydex sheaths for both of them. That said , I personally like the BK7 better for how I use my knives, its a little bit heavier , it chops better , and it Baton's better IMO , and the way the big thick handle scales are shaped , I can wrap my fingers around the front of them and choke up on the blade , I've been doing it for years , Gideons Tactical has a video on the BK7 and he shows you how to do it , I also love clip points ...
@DonnieBAllDay
@DonnieBAllDay 5 жыл бұрын
I prefer the bekker as well. I did a video on the be canine and followed it up with some homemade custom grips video
@brianhammond3584
@brianhammond3584 5 жыл бұрын
i own both rat 7 &bk7 i want to carry both but? there both great blades youll be happy with what ever choice u make
@DonnieBAllDay
@DonnieBAllDay 5 жыл бұрын
Definitely. I still give an edge to the Becker simply because the steel is better.
@gordomiguel1931
@gordomiguel1931 5 жыл бұрын
You can buy aftermarket micarta or G10 handle scales for the Becker.I have a BK10 with micarta scales.
@DonnieBAllDay
@DonnieBAllDay 5 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. There are tons of options. I'm thinking about just making my own.
@ChrisvilleUSA
@ChrisvilleUSA 5 жыл бұрын
Check out dogwood customs. They make some scales with glow crystals so if dropped at night, they are easily found
@johnnyeas1431
@johnnyeas1431 10 ай бұрын
The rat 7 looks like a camp knife. The bk7 looks like a bad to the bone tactical blade. Great review
@DonnieBAllDay
@DonnieBAllDay 10 ай бұрын
you aren't lying
@benjaminreyes7208
@benjaminreyes7208 3 жыл бұрын
I love my rat 7 along with rat 3 perfect combo but what I'd like is a 2" wide rat 7 and about 10 or 11 " long for chopping 1/4 " thick . Don't forget the choil. God bless and stay safe and Healthy.
@DonnieBAllDay
@DonnieBAllDay 3 жыл бұрын
Thats an easy design
@hoosierfatha
@hoosierfatha 7 ай бұрын
rat-7 is my next knife while i still can the becker is after that... great review. I have a few OKC knives they got their shit together with heat treating, they were the best in the business for carbon steel and air hardening tool steels...
@DonnieBAllDay
@DonnieBAllDay 7 ай бұрын
Good choices. OKC did a good job. Their heat treats were almost as good as Esee and Spyderco and thats a big compliment
@turtlewolfpack6061
@turtlewolfpack6061 4 жыл бұрын
I despise unfinished micarta. In my experience it tears up your hands with extended use and absorbs tons of moisture, getting funky and gross in short order. One advantage is that you can shape them yourself with sandpaper and it is a cheap material to make, probably one of the cheapest in reality even though it is touted as premium it is not.
@DonnieBAllDay
@DonnieBAllDay 4 жыл бұрын
They soak in your wilderness essence! haha
@turtlewolfpack6061
@turtlewolfpack6061 4 жыл бұрын
@@DonnieBAllDay lol!!!
@ryaandnice
@ryaandnice 4 жыл бұрын
TurtleWolf Pack Hmm. Can you sand micarta down to just where you want it, then seal it with something? A misting of flat poly??
@turtlewolfpack6061
@turtlewolfpack6061 4 жыл бұрын
@@ryaandnice yes you can. The Buck Selkirk has a beautiful polished micarta handle that I absolutely love.
@tim777us
@tim777us Жыл бұрын
The g10 grips they make for the Bk7 are sharp as the blade is. Those grips lacerate you. I'll take the micarta grips that Ka-bar makes for them over the g10 any day.
@TheJoeCool1964
@TheJoeCool1964 4 жыл бұрын
I tried them both, I bought the .. Rat 7 . I like it. It's best for me.
@DonnieBAllDay
@DonnieBAllDay 4 жыл бұрын
It won't do you wrong
@jeremydarkcountrysteckman9496
@jeremydarkcountrysteckman9496 4 жыл бұрын
Your reviews are the reason I bought this knife and the other I got an edge on the rat7 I can work with now and never needed the esee6
@DonnieBAllDay
@DonnieBAllDay 4 жыл бұрын
No one "needs" an Esee 6, but once you own one you "need" to keep it! Haha! Both of these are great options
@jeremydarkcountrysteckman9496
@jeremydarkcountrysteckman9496 4 жыл бұрын
@@DonnieBAllDay I bought both rat7 and esee6 because of your recommendation but I've never needed the esee the rat7 is a tank
@DonnieBAllDay
@DonnieBAllDay 4 жыл бұрын
@@jeremydarkcountrysteckman9496 its a great knife. The Esee is slightly better but both do the same job
@jeremydarkcountrysteckman9496
@jeremydarkcountrysteckman9496 4 жыл бұрын
The esee had a much better edge but not a big deal I tweaked the edge to my liking and it rips right through things I had to change scales to my liking
@DonnieBAllDay
@DonnieBAllDay 4 жыл бұрын
@@jeremydarkcountrysteckman9496 better edge, fit and finish, heat treat, coating sheath and warranty. All that and the RAT will still get you there
@mikedale1260
@mikedale1260 2 жыл бұрын
They made the rat 7 with diffrent steels diffrent price points.. the best way to tell is by checking what handles came with the knife.. The wood handles are bass pro shop exclusives and the steel is 1075 the 100+ dollar rat 7's with micarta handles are 1095 high carbon steel. I have the rat 7 in 1095hc and also the becker bk7 both steels are just about identical as far as edge retention hardness and sharpness altho I have not did extensive testing with each blade so far that is what I have experienced. The main differences are the thickness of each blade becker is thicker heavier and more robust great for chopping wood. the rat 7 is not as thick blade so it's easier to use has more of a elegant blade where as the becker is a tank. Excessively thick and a wedge shaped blade. the rat 7 can easily slice a tomato or do finer tasks and still baton or chop wood. Where as the becker bk7 falls short on doing finer or detail tasks. Another thing to remember is the newer beckers have a skeletonized handle and ive seen them break right where the front screw is.
@DonnieBAllDay
@DonnieBAllDay 2 жыл бұрын
The BKs always break at the same place. Its not too common but it happens
@bdwillis8284
@bdwillis8284 5 жыл бұрын
I have a BK 9. Agreed the grip is less than ideal, I never replaced the scales. I put some 3m antiskid tape on them, helps a bit. My biggest complaint with the knife is the abrasive coating on the blade. It adversely affect camp kitchen and butchering duties. I sanded mine off and polished to a mirror finish, slices much better. Just my 2 cents. Great video, keep up the good work!
@DonnieBAllDay
@DonnieBAllDay 5 жыл бұрын
Not sure if you saw my BK-9 vids, but I did a review, then did a video adding my own custom grips. Bad ass.
@bdwillis8284
@bdwillis8284 5 жыл бұрын
Looking for it now. Thanks!
@tim777us
@tim777us Жыл бұрын
Never thought of using one of the larger Beckers for preparing food. I use a Mora 612 as my accessory knife with the Becker. Might get one of the more tactical looking Mora knives to match the Becker.
@JesusChrist_IsTruth-LoveForALL
@JesusChrist_IsTruth-LoveForALL Жыл бұрын
​@@tim777us that's a good way I'd think of it. One knife, a good, smallish blade stainless steel for food prep, then a 2nd larger bushcraft knife for everything else. Then you can handle it all.
@ChrisvilleUSA
@ChrisvilleUSA 5 жыл бұрын
Dogwood customs makes bk scales with glow crystals so if dropped at night, they are easily found.
@DonnieBAllDay
@DonnieBAllDay 5 жыл бұрын
Did you see the ones I made for my BK-9?
@7JeTeL7
@7JeTeL7 4 жыл бұрын
should shown those knifes without handles; while becker has two HUGE holes in the tang, RAR 7 is basically one solid piece of steel and thus probably has stronger overall build
@DonnieBAllDay
@DonnieBAllDay 4 жыл бұрын
The heat treat is better on the BK7 is better so it kind of balances out. I've also never seen a tank break from being skeletonized. It is for weight distribution Nd is not a complete hollow so strength isn't really jeopardized.
@7JeTeL7
@7JeTeL7 4 жыл бұрын
@@DonnieBAllDay Wow, thanks for response, i do not know squat about steels, just saw this vid (kzbin.info/www/bejne/mGrRpJppodinmtU) where so called „tank“ (what a synchronicity) of all BK´s - BK2 - breaks (due to incredibly stupid use) just at its weakest point.
@DonnieBAllDay
@DonnieBAllDay 4 жыл бұрын
@@7JeTeL7 I'll have to give it a peek
@joeyoung3319
@joeyoung3319 Жыл бұрын
LANYARD on the Rat, slipping problem SOLVED.
@DonnieBAllDay
@DonnieBAllDay Жыл бұрын
Good
@josh44779
@josh44779 6 ай бұрын
The rat is my choice between the two because of edge retention and overall weight and feel especially when carrying
@DonnieBAllDay
@DonnieBAllDay 6 ай бұрын
For me it would be the BK, but both are great
@wayneprice2737
@wayneprice2737 5 жыл бұрын
Put packing foam in the sheaths it stops the rattle and helps hold the knives.
@DonnieBAllDay
@DonnieBAllDay 5 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. There are tons of homemade fix its. For the review I just have to be honest on my likes and dislikes prior to modifying.
@jimmydeshazo1312
@jimmydeshazo1312 Жыл бұрын
I love your videos. Thanks for everything
@DonnieBAllDay
@DonnieBAllDay Жыл бұрын
I appreciate that
@jamesondancy2183
@jamesondancy2183 5 жыл бұрын
Becker factory grips WORK great, no hot spots and good grip. There is a video where a guy covers the grips with oil and stabs trees....yeah crappy, right. The micarta grips are great, but not needed.
@DonnieBAllDay
@DonnieBAllDay 5 жыл бұрын
They are a bit slick however I have done nothing to mind yet and honestly I probably won't.
@anthonyschutz7201
@anthonyschutz7201 2 жыл бұрын
I think I'd go rat 7 simply because it's $30-$45 cheaper and they're really similar knives. Now I just have to decide whether or not I need a 7in knife.
@DonnieBAllDay
@DonnieBAllDay 2 жыл бұрын
The 7 has better scale too
@wayneprice2737
@wayneprice2737 5 жыл бұрын
Got some scales from the knife connection for my esee and rat knives awsome handles now.
@DonnieBAllDay
@DonnieBAllDay 4 жыл бұрын
I've been making some customs. I like them over the plastic BK grips
@eipi5173
@eipi5173 5 жыл бұрын
I prefer a stronger saber grind over a flat grind. Ranger bands on grip and a little 320 grit on the coating and ur set. BTW tell us blade thickness on ur reviews. Thxs for vid.
@DonnieBAllDay
@DonnieBAllDay 5 жыл бұрын
Ah, got it. Than you'll like the Becker.
@benjaminreyes7208
@benjaminreyes7208 3 жыл бұрын
That sounds awesome. Can't wait until then
@DonnieBAllDay
@DonnieBAllDay 3 жыл бұрын
soon
@brianhammond3584
@brianhammond3584 5 жыл бұрын
i hear what you say i have both rat 7 and bk 7couldnt deside plus the r tac 2 and bk 9 +many more those are my favrots great blades .when i leave in the morning its allways a tough desision what to carry great flik keep it up !
@DonnieBAllDay
@DonnieBAllDay 5 жыл бұрын
I feel your pain. I try not to carry the same blade more than 3 days in a row.
@benjaminreyes7208
@benjaminreyes7208 3 жыл бұрын
You make that design I know I'm buying one . Have a great day brother.
@DonnieBAllDay
@DonnieBAllDay 3 жыл бұрын
Deal
@DonnieBAllDay
@DonnieBAllDay 3 жыл бұрын
I just finished my take on what you're thinking... mostly. I'll try and post it tomorrow in my community tab
@saraqdanut9300
@saraqdanut9300 Жыл бұрын
Very nice explaining. Now, this is a good video wich according attention to details.
@DonnieBAllDay
@DonnieBAllDay Жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it
@Airik1111bibles
@Airik1111bibles 5 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing they get these sheaths for $2 cause they refuse to change regardless of complaints.... I freaking hate having to buy a sheath its rather stupid esp when some cheap China knives come with good kydex/plastic sheaths.
@DonnieBAllDay
@DonnieBAllDay 5 жыл бұрын
I agree. Do it right the first time. KA-BAR is not very good when it comes to making grips and aside from the leather sheaths, it's another place they're lacking.
@infernofella
@infernofella 4 ай бұрын
Ill go with the Becker
@DonnieBAllDay
@DonnieBAllDay 4 ай бұрын
Cant go wrong woth it
@bcwoodsman876
@bcwoodsman876 6 жыл бұрын
This a good and timely video. These 2 are on my short list as an upgrade over my SCHF52. Thanks for your thoughts.
@DonnieBAllDay
@DonnieBAllDay 6 жыл бұрын
Both are great but for me it would come down to the Esee 6, Steel Will Roamer or the Tops Silent Hero. I did vids on all three but you can't go wrong with either of these two.
@iordansilviu-cristian9403
@iordansilviu-cristian9403 Жыл бұрын
I love them but the sheath it s a deal breaker for me and i m so pissed off 😢 i wish they would come in a tactical plastic sheath
@DonnieBAllDay
@DonnieBAllDay Жыл бұрын
I'm with you
@njrtech
@njrtech 4 жыл бұрын
Kabar bk7 for me
@DonnieBAllDay
@DonnieBAllDay 4 жыл бұрын
It's honestly the better choice
@Ruger44Redhawk
@Ruger44Redhawk 3 жыл бұрын
I think I would take the Ontario for one major reason. The skeletonized handle of the Becker. I have the BK9 but hate the fact that they skeletonized the handle, especially for something that is supposed to be a chopper and I've seen the fracture failures on these handles. So full stock steel goes to the Ontario. However, I don't like choils and wish the Ontario's didn't have them and wish they were saber grind so those two go to the Becker. Question, have you reviewed the Ontario RD6 and RD7 and how they compare to these? Those are the two I have and prefer the 5160.
@DonnieBAllDay
@DonnieBAllDay 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure if I have them. I'll have to look
@bradirvin919
@bradirvin919 4 жыл бұрын
The only thing I would change in this review is at 10:01. You should have said "it's like splitting hairs" instead of "picking skin flakes". Otherwise, great comparison. Thank you.
@DonnieBAllDay
@DonnieBAllDay 4 жыл бұрын
I have failed you and for this, I will not eat ice cream for and entire day as punishment... Half day.
@llCarnivoreBushcraftll
@llCarnivoreBushcraftll 2 жыл бұрын
RAT 7 all day!
@DonnieBAllDay
@DonnieBAllDay 2 жыл бұрын
If the BK had better scales, it would be much Harder
@brianhammond3584
@brianhammond3584 5 жыл бұрын
2 great hunks of iron i think the cheep cases is just 2 keep the price down the case in canada is about $70 4 oi\4
@DonnieBAllDay
@DonnieBAllDay 5 жыл бұрын
I would spend a touch more for a great leather sheath. I see what you mean though, the price goes up crossing the border.
@Leo_Lex
@Leo_Lex Жыл бұрын
Ontario RAT 7 is trash, I bought two and both had blade is crooked and the edge is also crooked, they need to improve the quality standard a lot. Also, Ontario uses cheap 1075 steel that chips easily and Kabar 1095 Cro Van.
@DonnieBAllDay
@DonnieBAllDay Жыл бұрын
The Esee 6 is better, but the Rats have been 1095 for a while now
@shiro703
@shiro703 5 жыл бұрын
If I was in a survival situation. Which one would be better
@DonnieBAllDay
@DonnieBAllDay 5 жыл бұрын
Depends where really and the kind of weather/surroundings. Steel for steel, the Becker. If you are in an area with mostly soft wood like pines and firs, both steels are equal. Hardwoods need a better steel, so the BK is better there. Also temps. If bone stock, the BK grip is slick. Winter weather it's bad out of the box, too hot and sweaty, still slick. The RAT is better there. So in the woods, not in the winter where you have different trees and shade... Like a normal situation, the Becker.
@shiro703
@shiro703 5 жыл бұрын
Donnie B All Day thanks I just realized it would be better off for me to get a mora garberg and a bahco laplander since I'm 13 lol
@DonnieBAllDay
@DonnieBAllDay 5 жыл бұрын
@@shiro703 If you want just one, the Esee 6 is better.
@DonnieBAllDay
@DonnieBAllDay 5 жыл бұрын
@@shiro703 I do love that you're 13 and asking for survival situation. That makes you more of a man than most guys in college! Haha!
@shiro703
@shiro703 5 жыл бұрын
Donnie B All Day haha me my dad hunt unlike most people in my school no joke only 1% of my school hunts lol
@gaismaszeme7465
@gaismaszeme7465 3 жыл бұрын
Sand paper makes BK7 grip much better
@DonnieBAllDay
@DonnieBAllDay 3 жыл бұрын
Shouldn't have to
@terrencemccargish442
@terrencemccargish442 2 жыл бұрын
After using the Rat7 for quite a while I am unimpressed with the steel. Was looking at the steels earlier today after watching this video and there is a difference in the steel. According to the Ontario site the Rat7 is 1095, and the BK7 is 1095 CroVan. There's a big difference in performance in those two steels, the CroVan being a much better steel. Had I known that before I bought the Rat7, I would have bought the BK7 instead. 1095CV is what Cold Steel used to use in their CarbonV blades, and if you have ever owned one you know what I am talking about. 1095 isn't a bad steel, but 1095CV is a LOT better. For reference my Rat7 bent the first week I took it out to the woods. Still usable but the bend is there on the edge. Never had a 1095CV do that. The BK7 will be my next knife and I'll probably just let my boys beat the Rat7 into the ground. Not impressed with the steel.
@DonnieBAllDay
@DonnieBAllDay 2 жыл бұрын
I wish the BK7 was sold stock with real grips
@flashforce699
@flashforce699 5 жыл бұрын
Yes this one worked
@DonnieBAllDay
@DonnieBAllDay 5 жыл бұрын
One outta 3 ain't bad? Haha!
@ChrisvilleUSA
@ChrisvilleUSA 5 жыл бұрын
Come on donnie b I have both and, yes they are both phenomenal, you know the bk is a little better. No shade towards okc
@DonnieBAllDay
@DonnieBAllDay 5 жыл бұрын
Truth. Id take the Becker. After having both now for a year and using them, it's no longer that close. While Ka-Bar seems to be the worst of the best in the handle department, the steel is unarguable.
@randycisneros4111
@randycisneros4111 3 жыл бұрын
A little late coming into your review, great comparison and presentation, I have the BK 7 and the Esee 6 I was thinking about getting the Rat 7 so now I can decide if I really can use it to add my collection of survival knives. Has anyone ever told you that you look ,talk and act like Tom Sizemore from the movie " Heat". Thank you for sharing your reviews for all of us and a wise man ounce told me " A man can never own to many knives "
@DonnieBAllDay
@DonnieBAllDay 3 жыл бұрын
I hear that all the time. I'm the only one who doesn't see it
@randycisneros4111
@randycisneros4111 3 жыл бұрын
@@DonnieBAllDay That's funny, the sun glasses you wear in your videos adds more to the resemblance.
@DonnieBAllDay
@DonnieBAllDay 3 жыл бұрын
@@randycisneros4111 I need new glasses. Haha
@adods9824
@adods9824 Жыл бұрын
Too. Too many knives
@nathanwiedenhoft7328
@nathanwiedenhoft7328 5 жыл бұрын
Im trying to decide between these two exact blades at the moment. If you could only grab one on the way out the door which would you take?
@DonnieBAllDay
@DonnieBAllDay 5 жыл бұрын
The BK-7. But add the Esee 6, Cold Steel SRK in San Mai and the Steel Will Roamer to the fight and it's a different story.
@DonnieBAllDay
@DonnieBAllDay 5 жыл бұрын
@Mr. Shlock I also have the SRK in San Mai. Use it, love it. My Esee 6 is near flawless and one of my favorites. If you want a phenomenal user without breaking the bank, look at the Steel Will Roamer I believe 305. D2 steel a d remarkable.
@DonnieBAllDay
@DonnieBAllDay 5 жыл бұрын
@Mr. Shlock yeah, I just don't own kid gloves. Haha! Every knife I own, collectable or not, I use to the fullest of their abilities. The D2 being brittle or dulling? Never had an Issue. As a matter of fact, my Steel Will Roamer is used far more, even an EDC, than my RAT 7, and the 7 has taken a baby chip while the Roamer is still like new.
@DonnieBAllDay
@DonnieBAllDay 5 жыл бұрын
@Mr. Shlock I can only speak from experience. From actual use and carry, some of my D2 blade have held up the best of all I own. When knives are made where D2 is an option, I pay more to get it that way. The Esee Avispa, the Steel Will Cutjack and my TacticalGearz blade in D2 are some of my most used and most reliable along with my Roamer.
@DonnieBAllDay
@DonnieBAllDay 5 жыл бұрын
@Mr. Shlock I like when you chime in. It's nice hearing someone talk steel who doesn't try and convince me that the "Walmart" Bowies will do the same thing as the bigger names. I have found a few VERY worthy "budget" knives, but an Esee Jungles VS a Winchester Bowie is not even worth talking about.
@glbwoodsbum2567
@glbwoodsbum2567 5 жыл бұрын
Nice review. Is that a massive sycamore tree behind you?
@DonnieBAllDay
@DonnieBAllDay 5 жыл бұрын
It's the second largest in New England. Over 300 years old.
@glbwoodsbum2567
@glbwoodsbum2567 5 жыл бұрын
@@DonnieBAllDay Wow
@bashfulbrother
@bashfulbrother 5 жыл бұрын
how did you get the chips?
@DonnieBAllDay
@DonnieBAllDay 5 жыл бұрын
Chopping a log. Nothing crazy so it suprised me.
@trentcostello4358
@trentcostello4358 Жыл бұрын
Star trek fan huh!!! I knew they something a lil off bout ya.. could be worse sooo I accept you any ways
@DonnieBAllDay
@DonnieBAllDay Жыл бұрын
Only original Trek and the newer movies. The rest can go in the trash
@trentcostello4358
@trentcostello4358 Жыл бұрын
No ergo's vs wrong ergo's 😂😢😮
@DonnieBAllDay
@DonnieBAllDay Жыл бұрын
I cant call you a liar
@greekveteran2715
@greekveteran2715 5 жыл бұрын
BK 7 is by far the best knife,on the survival one tool option category. Only Falkniven A1 could come close,if it wasn't that chipy stainless steel they use and if it was at least one inch longer and if it had at least a handle close to beckers design,which it hasn't and so on. Rat 7 is at esee category,same steel same grind and very similar handles.Kabar's steel real name is Sharon 170-06 or SAE alloy 50100B (AISI designation) which is closer to O1 steel properties steel, rather than 1095.That's a marketing trick of course.There is no 1095 cro van steel out there but people,prefer that crapy steel which actually is my least favorite and imho, the most overated steel.,that's why ka-bar puts that fake name.That's the only complain I have from the bk 7,for what you pay,you get the best on the market at a great bargain price. PS Did you sharpen at least 2 or 3 times the edge and put a bit of convexing and polish before use?,.If not,you can get chips with any knife.cheers
@DonnieBAllDay
@DonnieBAllDay 5 жыл бұрын
While I agree it's better than many, in no way do I feel it's the best. If a knife brand new needs a small change to make it great, it can't be the best. The grip shape is as comfortable as they come, but stock, are very slick. Tape helps or even a full scale change. Also, the coating on the Becker is by far the weakest among the main competitors. As far as the steel, much better that the RAT, but I don't find it better than the Esee. What makes the Esee so great is the heat treat. Not too many can do it as well. And talking knives in the survival class, not many have performed better than the Steel Will blades. I'd put one up against just about anything. This of course takes nothing away from how great the BK is.
@greekveteran2715
@greekveteran2715 5 жыл бұрын
@@DonnieBAllDay Who uses coating? BK 7 cannot cut or slice with that coating on,it's there for the knife to get with no rust,until it riches buyers hand,rather than to use it.If you put some use,you will see that that slipery handle is better than any other, because it doesn't hurt your hand,no blisters etc on extended use,it makes the knife balance better and allow to have all the weight,where you need it, on the blade! You can put some rubber band from a bicycle,you don't have to spend any money.but that will make blisters to a softer hand.It has moe advantages than people think We compare what WORKS, better lasts more and can take more.Thats ,my experience and I have hurt a lot of knives at that category. ps esees are the most broken blades on that category,even more than rats,Cold steel follows. Bos on bucks and esees marketing trick is that they sell the best heat tretment. Ka-Bars marketing trick is the steel name. I insist,you haven't used both knives enoughe to compare and you are like we all are,brainwashed through what everybody sees on marketing tricks,called advertisments! Many choises out there,for any taste! Cheers
@DonnieBAllDay
@DonnieBAllDay 5 жыл бұрын
@@greekveteran2715 You like what you like and I'm not telling you not to. But any knife you need to customize to be optimal is not optimal to begin with. I love my BK 7 and I use the hell out of my blades. I'll put my collection by mass against just about anyones. I have around 300 blades and even make my own. I'm retired and use my knives daily. You talk about being brainwashed, but I'm left to wonder how many you actually own and use daily. Also, in what capacity do you use them. My knives get used and used a lot. From actual combat over seas to opening letters at home. I speak from long term experience from an onslaught of variety. You make a wise choice with the BK7, but there's no such thing as the one single best. If I made a video saying that one knife is the best in the world, I would be ignorant to do so, as would anyone else. And again, if a knife needs to be customized to be better, it wasn't better in the first place. I do like the name, "Greek Veteran" though. I served in Afghanistan with the Greek Army. Some good basketball players. We had a good time time together.
@greekveteran2715
@greekveteran2715 5 жыл бұрын
@@DonnieBAllDay We agree on that! I ve seen action too,,but not in Afganistan.I have been with US soldiers along for two years,at Souda bay on Crete Island of Greece.Even though Europes first sports game is Football (soccer),basketball is our favorite here in Greece,Great basketball level here,and that's one reason Giannis Antetokounbo,is a great overall player,he had good coaches here who saw first his talent! Sorry for being so exited about knives,knives are my passion since a little kid!
@DonnieBAllDay
@DonnieBAllDay 5 жыл бұрын
@@greekveteran2715 Sorry is something you never need to say. I'm with you my brother.
@woofman4796
@woofman4796 6 жыл бұрын
becker's are not bad except the hollow tang,, nope,, i buy esee
@DonnieBAllDay
@DonnieBAllDay 6 жыл бұрын
I completely agree. My favorite one brand trio has got to be Esee's Avispa, 6 and Junglas.
@woofman4796
@woofman4796 6 жыл бұрын
@@DonnieBAllDay i was a die hard ka-bar fan until i found esee, i want to add,, i have 3 folders, the rat 1, and 2 spydercos,, the tenacious and paramilitary 2,, i love spyderco folders,, i take my para 2 everywhere,, unfortunately i am getting arthritis in my fingers,, the spyder hole in the spyderco folders is easier for me than the thumb stud
@DonnieBAllDay
@DonnieBAllDay 6 жыл бұрын
@@woofman4796 you might appreciate Benchmades auto open knives they are fantastic. I carry the Esee Avispa almost daily.
@woofman4796
@woofman4796 6 жыл бұрын
@@DonnieBAllDay i've been looking at autos,, trying to convince my wife that another knife may be in my future,, that is a feat in itself :),, truthfully i'm considering getting another rifle,, or crossbow,, i have 3 22's and 1 30 cal rifle,, and 1 excalibur micro 335 bow,, but crossbows are over a grand if 1 wants quality,, the rifle i have in mind is another 22 ,, around 6 to 800 depending on the model
@DonnieBAllDay
@DonnieBAllDay 6 жыл бұрын
@@woofman4796 I like your style. I a totally did a couple reviews that are right up your alley. A crossbow from Dicks that was dirt cheap and accurate at 40 yards and a custom 10-22 I built with Ruger guys. Hammered in a nail with one shot at 50 yards and split an arrow.
@billpeart
@billpeart 5 жыл бұрын
All things equal, I'll take a bowie.
@DonnieBAllDay
@DonnieBAllDay 4 жыл бұрын
Me too
@rbo350
@rbo350 6 жыл бұрын
first time im watching your videos, I like the information but I wish your video wasn't so hazy, I wish the sun wasn't at your back
@DonnieBAllDay
@DonnieBAllDay 6 жыл бұрын
Ringo Star yeah bro I get it. Some are really clear some are just that way. I'm a one-man operation so I'm kind of stuck with what I have for weather and video quality. some are really good though.
@DonnieBAllDay
@DonnieBAllDay 6 жыл бұрын
Ringo Star besides. The more hazy it is the less of my face you have to see and that has to be a plus.
@willamxavier7305
@willamxavier7305 3 жыл бұрын
Becker is $25 more expensive
@DonnieBAllDay
@DonnieBAllDay 3 жыл бұрын
Better steel, worse grip, more money
@Imakebootysclap
@Imakebootysclap 3 жыл бұрын
and well worth the extra $25
@j.m.3038
@j.m.3038 3 жыл бұрын
About 75 in Europe...🤪
@mgsharnhorst
@mgsharnhorst 4 жыл бұрын
I have both. The Becker is awesome in the woods. I added a choil to the Becker and a set of micarta scales. To stop the sheath rattle, heat the plastic insert and mold it to the knife BTW, my Rat-7 also chipped.
@DonnieBAllDay
@DonnieBAllDay 4 жыл бұрын
I find that just ordering a better sheath was the way to go.
@dillpickle4558
@dillpickle4558 6 жыл бұрын
Where did you get the sheath?
@DonnieBAllDay
@DonnieBAllDay 6 жыл бұрын
Picked it up on eBay. The seller is cardinal_kydex. Just look up Ontario Rat 7 kydex sheath - mid carry.
@DonnieBAllDay
@DonnieBAllDay 6 жыл бұрын
I believe I found it on eBay.
@Imakebootysclap
@Imakebootysclap 3 жыл бұрын
I have had a few ontario's chip and seen many on youtube like the rtak chip.
@DonnieBAllDay
@DonnieBAllDay 3 жыл бұрын
I pet a small chip in my 7 while testing vs the Esee 6
@Imakebootysclap
@Imakebootysclap 3 жыл бұрын
bk all day I hate rat design. Ranger and night stalker where both way better.
@DonnieBAllDay
@DonnieBAllDay 3 жыл бұрын
I just wish they came with quality grips
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