I’m a brand new bee keeper and two people have asked me to trap out established swarms in a barn and stucco wall... this video is nice because it shows me that I’m not failing... it shows me how incredibly smart bees are! Patience is definitely a virtue when trying to get “free” bees!
@628DirtRooster6 жыл бұрын
They will definitely make you work for it.
@richardreid22856 жыл бұрын
I'm Glad I watched this! I have a Tree Removal to do and they Don't want the Tree harmed Being Newbie This helped tremendously!
@conspiracylibrary28486 жыл бұрын
My idea is to do what you did the first time, attach some type of hose long enough to connect to the funnel end, to the box opening. Love your videos! Lol i just rethought about that. They would then be able to go back to the old hive. Duhhh. Oh unless you connect it to another thing like the funnel. It will keep them going in one direction. The box would have to be escape proof too.
@southernexposure12310 жыл бұрын
Sorry that one didn't work out so good for you. Last year I learned about a bee tree in a homeowner's yard that's a 25 mile drive one way from my house. The entrance is about chest high. After trying a few trapouts in my own home town and seeing how much attention they can demand I decided to not go after the one that's 25 miles one way. I think my trapout (Bucket Swarm Follow Up) is sort of working - they're maknig honey in my box - I haven't seen the queen in that box yet. I walk to that tree from my house - so if nothing else I'll gain a little honey. I have two more trees that are close enough to get starts out of if I can steal a queen cell from one of my hives. All this is brand new to me and I have a lot to learn. Thanks for the video.
@628DirtRooster10 жыл бұрын
I'll take them on once in a while but they can be time consuming for sure. I've done a couple dozen trap outs and this is the first one that has gotten the best of me. I like the challenge they pose.
@southernexposure12310 жыл бұрын
You mentioned your dad wanted to continue because of the challenge. How did he do?
@628DirtRooster10 жыл бұрын
***** Haaa. I need to do a follow up video on that. He gave up too and with good reason. He had taken the cone off that I put on and another colony swarmed into the original space that I trapped them out of. He trapped the original colony out of the right side branch and they moved about twenty feet up the tree to a new hole then after he removed his cone another colony swarmed into the lower hole on the right side branch. In the end there were three colonies in that tree.
@southernexposure12310 жыл бұрын
That would be an interesting video. Anyway its a hot location for getting bees. If it wasn't so far to drive it would be worth keeping a box at the entrance of each hive and just take the honey.
@Danny656739 жыл бұрын
They may be too stupid to figure out how to simply go back into the hole they departed from, but they sure are good at finding new ways back into the hive.
@thebayouboy210 жыл бұрын
Sometimes you get em,sometimes you dont...kind of like credit, and a couple of other things I know of. Good vid,,,Thanks for posting,
@628DirtRooster10 жыл бұрын
Ha, that's right. Thanks
@hairymeatloaf8 жыл бұрын
One of those things that it seemed like a lot of work to do at first but if you had just put the screen all the way down the first time it could've been done. lol
@Fireater3039 жыл бұрын
You may have already answered this, but I didn't see an answer..... When using this method, will the Queen trap out as well? At what point will she leave the hive? How many days would this take when you have sealed the entrance? Thanks for the input!
@628DirtRooster9 жыл бұрын
Fireater303 If you have a good seal you can get them out in as little as a week and up to around two weeks depending on the size and strength of the colony. This is just my theory but the queen will usually come out when she is no longer being cared for. That being said, I've only had about a 50% success rate of getting the queen. Also she needs to be able to walk into the box. I've discovered that they will more readily accept and ten frame deep than a nuc box. I've had success with nuc boxes but I've also had them bypass the box and leave. I don't recall ever losing a colony using a full size box. Hope this helps.
@Danny656739 жыл бұрын
I was thinking, why don't you get some clay or other home-clay-like stuff, and just fill in that whole crevice right up to covering up the bottom of the screen-material? You could clear it out after the trap-out is successful. If you used that stuff that crumbles like dirt easily, that might make clearing it out easier. Oh, nevermind, I spoke too soon. You did screen off the whole lower section.
@ԳայանեՂահրամանյան-օ2ն9 жыл бұрын
The reason why it failed was because the hive was supposed to be positioned so that the tip of the cone was sticking inside the hive. Eventually the queen would end up in Your box.
How do you get the queen out or does she come out with the rest of them
@denniskillian97578 жыл бұрын
Have you ever thought of having the cone go straight into the nuc box with another hole for them to get out and forage. That way they would have to go through the nuc with nice comb and a little honey in there. Seems like they may like the new home better than setting up somewhere else and starting from scratch.
@628DirtRooster8 жыл бұрын
The cone through the box is a hassle and doesn't do anything special. When the bees who have been out before return they come back to the place they were already oriented to. When they return to a box without their queen the do everything they can to get back to the original hive. It's only when they give up that they start looking at other options. The size of the box helps determine if they'll stay or not. This was the last trap out I used a nuc box on. I've had much better success with a 10 frame box.
@markreed62386 жыл бұрын
Life would be dull without a missed shot now and again! Great job though
@628DirtRooster6 жыл бұрын
If it was easy it wouldn't be interesting.
@JustMe-JustBecause6 жыл бұрын
I’m gonna do my first forced abscond Fromm bee tree this weekend. Bulldozer is coming Monday so no time for trap out. How long should I keep the bees locked down after relocating to my yard? I’m familiar with the Dirtrooster 48 hour rule but would this apply? The bee tree is only 300 yards from my yard and since it’s coming down, I was thinking of cutting it open and trying to save some cone. Is it worth the effort? It’s a large colony. They emptied my 4 gallon top feeder in 3 days.
@billcoley85204 жыл бұрын
If that is tin and metal caulk that is some good stuff.
@walnutvalleyoutdoors50708 жыл бұрын
Randy will the queen come out of tree on a trap out or will you have to re queen the hive.
@MegaDavyk7 жыл бұрын
Every trapout I have done is just like this, more trouble than they are worth.
@628DirtRooster7 жыл бұрын
We usually get them but you are 100% correct. Way more trouble than they are worth. I turn most of them down.
@samanthasimental37884 жыл бұрын
Would it work to use plastic wrap to wrap the tree or would they chew on that.
@628DirtRooster4 жыл бұрын
They probably couldn't chew through it fast enough.
@julieenslow59156 жыл бұрын
Rooster....wait. "i'm gonna borrow a hand grenade and blow this tree up." BORROW? LOL
@628DirtRooster6 жыл бұрын
Yeah because no one will sell you one. LOL
@julieenslow59156 жыл бұрын
You are too funny!!
@lewiemcneely91437 жыл бұрын
Sneaky bees. Win some, loose some. You tried, but you never know. And it IS a way of life, remember.
@628DirtRooster7 жыл бұрын
They got me this time.
@Johnfor310 жыл бұрын
Have you ever used a box that bottomless so they can get into it very easy I made a box like that and have had good luck with it on a suborn hive that was in a brick house. I had it set up so I could just slide a bottom in.
@628DirtRooster10 жыл бұрын
Never have tried that.
@Johnfor310 жыл бұрын
I think it is more like a natural hive to them and they move in faster
@628DirtRooster10 жыл бұрын
John C I will be modifying my next trap out box but it will be so that the entrance of the box is closer to their hive entrance. This was the first trap out I did that they didn't go in the box and I've done quite a few. The bottomless box might be the route I take.
@mushious10 жыл бұрын
Beequick in the new hive and hope they go into the box?
@628DirtRooster10 жыл бұрын
We talked about that but because of the way the tree was the only thing we could spray would be the entrance
@gazinta6 жыл бұрын
You cant borrow a hand grenade. You can borrow the PIN, but the hand grenade must be purchased.
@JarodShapiro5 жыл бұрын
Its like Wil E Coyote chasing the Road Runner lol The bees didnt fall for your Acme box
@blackhead577 жыл бұрын
Hey Dirt Rooster, can the Bees chew their way throigh spry foam? Thanks, Paul
@628DirtRooster7 жыл бұрын
Yep, pretty easy too.
@mohamedhachi93128 жыл бұрын
628DirtRooster ..what have you maked in box.....thanks
@628DirtRooster8 жыл бұрын
+Mohamed Hachi The box has five Langstroth frames with plastic foundations and some lemon grass oil.
@426superbee410 жыл бұрын
Its hard to get em away from brood comb and honey, if you can trap there queen you'll got em hehehe idk either leave them be, and get some swarm off of them or cut the tree down. i seen scouts was looking at the box
@628DirtRooster10 жыл бұрын
This guy wanted to be a beekeeper. He's just going to have to settle for having them in a tree.
@426superbee410 жыл бұрын
what i would do too if i like the tree and can get swarm off of them cheers bro
@jodyreeder48208 жыл бұрын
Where all bee's ever trapped? & what size hole did you make, for the trap out?
@628DirtRooster8 жыл бұрын
I usually put a hole in the cone that my pinkie will fit in. To my knowledge they are still in that tree.
@rchopp10 жыл бұрын
Well that's a bummer, I guess the bees just weren't having it this time..
@628DirtRooster10 жыл бұрын
This is a first. Guess I'll have to learn to live with the disappointment. LOL
@jecustomknives10 жыл бұрын
Man those must love those trees lol cool vid my friend! :)
@628DirtRooster10 жыл бұрын
They sure didn't want to live in what I offered them.
@justatool9 жыл бұрын
Is there any type of vacuum made for this type of extraction?
@628DirtRooster9 жыл бұрын
***** None yet.
@uncleharley110 жыл бұрын
Had a trapout on an old house where they kept getting back in so I ended up switching to a Hogan style trapout were they had to exit through the trap and were free to come and go I also put a big tarp up to help cover all the holes once they were used to coming and going through the box I dropped a frame of eggs in and installed the cone and they never tried to go anywhere else after that, sometimes you have to get really creative
@628DirtRooster10 жыл бұрын
If I ever have another one give me trouble like this I'l have to give that a try.
@amathonn6 жыл бұрын
I'd say the frame of eggs/larvae is the secret.
@AftabSatti-d4vАй бұрын
What is time this praces
@628DirtRoosterАй бұрын
I don't know what this means.
@joegravel24889 жыл бұрын
may i ask why those boxes are not bigger (like 4 feet by 8 feet )
@majesticroofingllc9277 жыл бұрын
your cone exit where upper then being pointing to the nuc.
@yoinkrust9 жыл бұрын
are u in america or australia
@628DirtRooster9 жыл бұрын
Brendan Morton We're in America
@pappysride9 жыл бұрын
How do you get the queen out?
@628DirtRooster9 жыл бұрын
Phill Jowers She walks out and hopefully walks to the box. Sometimes we don't get her for whatever reason and we just requeen the colony.
@NatashaFenwick7 жыл бұрын
did you ever get the bees out?
@628DirtRooster7 жыл бұрын
Got them out of that hole but they moved farther up the tree.
@ikeishaoliver24076 жыл бұрын
They don't want to cut the trees down too many holes for the bees, you gonna lose this one
@628DirtRooster6 жыл бұрын
I did lose that one. The bees went up to another hole. I'm working on one now though that I pretty much have done. There will be a video.
@TheRedneckprepper10 жыл бұрын
I guess some times ya win n some times ya have to move on . mother nature ! look i think i can post comments !
@628DirtRooster10 жыл бұрын
So glad you dodged the tornadoes. Hope all the rain didn't wash you out.
@matchfishinguk69866 жыл бұрын
Queen at 4.17
@JOCKATEO8 жыл бұрын
should have covered the tree with plastic tarpaulin
@628DirtRooster7 жыл бұрын
LOL
@Briannajea7 жыл бұрын
what about the queen
@628DirtRooster7 жыл бұрын
Sometimes you get her and sometimes not.
@lost941338 жыл бұрын
put a queen in the box you bring
@628DirtRooster8 жыл бұрын
+lost94133 They won't accept her.
@johnlamarca94395 жыл бұрын
Won't a smoker get them out? And into your man-made hive? Just smoke both trees.
@628DirtRooster5 жыл бұрын
No that won't do it.
@426superbee410 жыл бұрын
hehehe i don't chase bee's they come to me lmao
@matthewpillsbury74039 жыл бұрын
why didn't you just screen the entire area all the way down from the start?
@larkbird92478 жыл бұрын
first thing I thought of, too!
@jessicaporter34926 жыл бұрын
he said he didn't really want to do that but I'm with you, he should have just gone and done it anyways.
@keithcoffin91614 жыл бұрын
would it do any good to put a brood frame and a frame of honey in the box Randy ?
@justtube46025 жыл бұрын
Was it really successful?
@628DirtRooster5 жыл бұрын
Yes and no. We got them out of one hole in a tree only to have them move to another. The tree had so many places for the bees to run we just gave up on it. So in the sense that we trapped them out we were successful. They just outsmarted us another way.
@dafrogtoad10 жыл бұрын
Sigh..SOMETIMES...
@PopsShack10 жыл бұрын
I think we can chalk this one up to the bees. There's no way you can win here.
@628DirtRooster10 жыл бұрын
Yes Sir!
@628DirtRooster10 жыл бұрын
Pop's Shack Sometimes they just aren't worth the effort.
@captainjjz71417 жыл бұрын
What about the queen? How do you get her out?
@markwelsch9404 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great video! Did your Dad win or did the bees beat him too? I had a similar problem with my first tree trap out in 2019. It was an old maple tree with many cracks into the hive almost 10 feet long from top to bottom and 5 feet from side to side around the tree. Lucky for me I could get lots of old metal screens for free from local hardware stores where they fix screen doors and windows. When I was done, that tree had more screens on it than most houses! I would not give up and finally got all of the bees out of that tree. I learned to look very closely at cracks in the tree and if I couldn't see where it ends, assume bees could get through it to the hive. After several weeks of trial and error I filled that hive with smoke, hoping I could all of the cracks with smoke coming out of them. To my surprise the only place smoke came out of was on the other side of the tree from the bee hive entrance and about 9 feet lower. There was a large, hollow opening where a large branch had been removed many years earlier. I put a screen over that 8 inch hole immediately. But I never saw one bee show any interest in that hole. Maybe the cracks inside the tree were large enough for smoke, but not large enough for bees, to get through.
@mmdirtyworkz8 жыл бұрын
Would it be possible to put the "tunnel/funnel end" of the wire inside the trap box? That way they would have to go through it and might like it more as they explore it?
@628DirtRooster8 жыл бұрын
Doesn't really help. They will always try to go back to the original hive until they realized there is no hope and then they explore other places to live. This can take days. I've set up my trap and come back two days layer to place a box and still caught them.
@mmdirtyworkz8 жыл бұрын
628DirtRooster ok, thanks for the feedback, much appreciated!
@sallietillman19977 жыл бұрын
I like to know how you make the trap, I have tree need to do trap out as well, mine tree is more nice, my tree is just round hole I use my bee vac but did not get all of them, like to do it this time with trap out.
@beebob1279 Жыл бұрын
Can't win them all.
@jessicaporter34926 жыл бұрын
I think I would have picked a new bee trapper to do this job after all this time.
@danameable10 жыл бұрын
at least you got swarms still to cold up here grrrrr that's it make room i'm moving in
@628DirtRooster10 жыл бұрын
Stop and pick up some milk and laundry detergent on the way. It'll save me a trip. LOL
@danameable10 жыл бұрын
lol
@papasplace210 жыл бұрын
We live and learn.... who'd have thunk it.....lol Take care
@628DirtRooster10 жыл бұрын
I've been shut down by bees. That's just insane.
@billcoley85204 жыл бұрын
Omg to funny
@thatchersthatcher44497 жыл бұрын
I made a tunnel from the tree to the bottom board of my box. The bees then traveled through it get in and out of the tree. Two weeks later they moved the queen into my box and I got a new hive.
@628DirtRooster7 жыл бұрын
Nice! It's always fun when they go that easy.
@amathonn6 жыл бұрын
Have you ever succeeded with just lemon grass oil and no brood in your trapout box?
@628DirtRooster6 жыл бұрын
Yes, I typically only add old brood comb or freshly waxed foundations and maybe some lemon grass oil.
@smokeydabeecharlescoleman83658 жыл бұрын
That's too funny!!!
@628DirtRooster8 жыл бұрын
+Smokeydabee Charles Coleman This was the last time I used a nuc for a trap box.
@Tatorhead12345 жыл бұрын
Impeach trump and on your channel....
@628DirtRooster5 жыл бұрын
What??
@Tatorhead12345 жыл бұрын
@@628DirtRooster sorry, I mean to say "you had an impeach Trump ad on your video".
@628DirtRooster5 жыл бұрын
@@Tatorhead1234 Oh! LOL I didn't know where you were going with that.
@AlexanderSilver19969 жыл бұрын
Been practising with your editing again? haha
@628DirtRooster9 жыл бұрын
Alexander Silver Ha! Had to cover DaFrogToad's face. He's shy. lol
@auricom84728 жыл бұрын
Smart Bees
@628DirtRooster8 жыл бұрын
+MIDNIHT SUN For sure!
@watchmanwatcher8 жыл бұрын
Are these first year learners? A good mentor could show you how easy it is if you learn to do it right.