Beethoven's Farewell To The Piano

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The Music Professor

The Music Professor

11 ай бұрын

In 1824, Beethoven, having completed his ninth symphony, returned to his own instrument, the piano, for the final time. He had signed off on his final piano sonatas the previous year, declaring the piano to be “after all an unsatisfactory instrument”. However, he seems to have been in a happier mood with the Op 126 bagatelles. They were conceived as ‘a Cycle’ of pieces, arranged in a specific order and it seems likely that he intended them to be played together as a complete set. When Beethoven sent them to his publisher, he wrote. “They are probably the best I’ve written.”
This G major bagatelle follows the extraordinary, stormy B minor bagatelle (which we will look at soon in another film). The G major, like its predecessor, makes use of syncopation, but in a wonderfully innocent way, like a lullaby with a slightly surprising sense of swing. The whole piece is written in a 3-part texture, with two low voices (starting in parallel thirds) accompanying the melody in the outer sections, and, in the exquisite central episode, two upper voices (also starting in parallel thirds), with a distinctly Italian character, singing a duet over a rocking barcarolle accompaniment. This passage would appear to have had a marked influence on later Romantic composers, especially Felix Mendelssohn’s ‘Gondellied’ pieces of the 1830s.
Beethoven’s handling of form is, as always, ingenious and unexpected. The opening section shifts unexpectedly to E minor with a half-close on a unison B, which then pivots surprisingly into the C major of the barcarolle middle section. This Venetian episode is also surprising in the way it progresses, from artless simplicity and stillness, into a climactic passage with an increase of harmonic turbulence (as if the gondola is encountering more difficult waters) and then dissolving quite unexpectedly into a tiny refrain of the opening, like a memory.
The score in this video comes from the 1825 first edition. There is a missing tie in the upper staff from bar 12 - 13, and another in bar 19.
Beethoven: Bagatelle in G major Op 126, no. 5.
Pianist: Matthew King.
Another film about the B minor Bagatelle Op 126 can be seen here: • Beethoven’s B Minor Ba...
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Edited by Ian Coulter ( www.iancoultermusic.com )
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@OctopusContrapunctus
@OctopusContrapunctus 11 ай бұрын
As a composer myself, I am even more amazed by the genius of beethoven in composing universally beloved and sentimental music even during of his tinnitus, even during his deafness. He was truly "A man battling against his fate".
@themusicprofessor
@themusicprofessor 11 ай бұрын
Yes, he wasn't going to let the very great difficulties of life get in the way! In all the portraits of Beethoven, you can see the determination in his face. The famous striving quality in his music is therefore understandable, but the intimate, vulnerable element that's also there is really wonderful, and moving.
@pjflynn5978
@pjflynn5978 11 ай бұрын
@@mtv565ranked by who? I love dearly all three of these composers, but to a degree it is subjective as to who is “best” among the three. They all composed during completely different eras and revolutionized music in their own unique ways!
@downfromkentuckeh
@downfromkentuckeh 11 ай бұрын
How does one get into composing music
@Yama98989
@Yama98989 11 ай бұрын
​@@downfromkentuckeh Studying music theory. Downloading music composition software (DAW). Creating the first projects within the software.
@OctopusContrapunctus
@OctopusContrapunctus 11 ай бұрын
@@mtv565i truly don't understand why people continue to compare composers. If you mean in contrapuntal way, for sure. Because countrapuntal was the main concern in bach. My suggestions is that you listen something other then baroque and classical my friend
@BrandonCuringtonOfficial
@BrandonCuringtonOfficial 11 ай бұрын
Beethoven's such a genius he composed an end credits piece for his life.
@Sora-o
@Sora-o 11 ай бұрын
Lmao
@jrgptr935
@jrgptr935 11 ай бұрын
Das ist aber mal schön gesagt!
@elemusic19
@elemusic19 5 ай бұрын
I feel like the "replacement finale" for opus 130 perfecrly fits that description considering that is was his last full composition.
@marcraider
@marcraider 5 ай бұрын
but this was his credits and farewell for piano solo@@elemusic19
@altekamerad
@altekamerad 11 ай бұрын
Beethoven is a literal music mastermind... It's sad that he couldn't have led a happier life.
@freedustin
@freedustin 11 ай бұрын
Happy people make nonsense music tho. Usually just a bunch of chants over the most basic stuff ever.
@franz9002
@franz9002 11 ай бұрын
​@@freedustinMozart: 🗿
@altekamerad
@altekamerad 11 ай бұрын
@@freedustin that is true, but Beethoven didn't deserve what he got.
@Warstub
@Warstub 11 ай бұрын
@@freedustin Even when the often happy Mozart wrote nonsense music it achieved more complexity than the best works of his peers.
@freedustin
@freedustin 11 ай бұрын
@@franz9002 difference was he wasn't just copy pasting something from 200 years ago...and chanting "I'm the best! Sex me up!" for 5 minutes over it!
@VallaMusic
@VallaMusic 11 ай бұрын
can not resist putting in my 2 cents as a composer myself - I love, love, love this kind of writing - it's the kind of music I often like to write - one grows as a composer - one cares less about impressing others - cares less about making grand, dramatic statements - one craves simplicity & intimacy - one knows the music will attract little attention or praise - only listeners in the same state will resonate
@themusicprofessor
@themusicprofessor 11 ай бұрын
Yes. Thank you for your wise comment. Simplicity and intimacy are enormously important and so hard to bring off!
@emanuel_soundtrack
@emanuel_soundtrack 11 ай бұрын
when it is the only thing the composer can do it is not intimacy, it is limitation. So the great things he did is what gives intimacy to this.
@VallaMusic
@VallaMusic 11 ай бұрын
@@emanuel_soundtrack truly one of the most bizarre music comments I've ever read
@izzyk867
@izzyk867 11 ай бұрын
@@VallaMusic does he mean that because Beethoven is known for ‘big’ (great) music, the fact that he is just as adept at this type of intimate music is what sets him apart as a composer??
@VallaMusic
@VallaMusic 11 ай бұрын
@@izzyk867 personally i don't want to bother wasting any of my brain time trying to figure it out - and if I start ranting about what I think of the academic world and their opinions of what constitutes 'genius' and 'great' music, then I will get myself too worked up
@tarikeld11
@tarikeld11 11 ай бұрын
I like his farewell to Sonatas even more. The second movement of Sonata No. 32 is like an ascention to heaven
@themusicprofessor
@themusicprofessor 11 ай бұрын
No one is going to debate that point! Beethoven's final sonatas contain some of the greatest music ever written by anybody ever.
@fatitankeris6327
@fatitankeris6327 11 ай бұрын
Great stylistic variety as well, things never heard before given to listeners to look forward to in the future.
@ericb7937
@ericb7937 11 ай бұрын
I have loved 32 no 2 for over 10 years and then today I discovered this one. What a gift
@mystogan6556
@mystogan6556 11 ай бұрын
Yes, very true! It sounds like a happy ending at the end.
@tarikeld11
@tarikeld11 11 ай бұрын
@@ericb7937 Yes, his bagatelles are simple but sublime!
@krisjustin3884
@krisjustin3884 4 күн бұрын
Beethoven could and still does speak with notes as we speak with words.
@TimothyAsbridge_TENOR
@TimothyAsbridge_TENOR 11 ай бұрын
This is how music analysis should be taught in the institutions.
@ComposedBySam
@ComposedBySam 11 ай бұрын
Such a fulfilling farewell. I can imagine beethoven composing this while remembering all of his struggles in the past with tears in his eyes and with a gentle smile on his face...
@nikbivation
@nikbivation 11 ай бұрын
I could watch hours of music if they were narrated like this. Thank you!
@themusicprofessor
@themusicprofessor 11 ай бұрын
Thank you so much!
@Jantsenpr777
@Jantsenpr777 11 ай бұрын
"Exquisite skill creates the illusion of utter simplicity". That's exactly what I was thinking: this seems so simple, and yet, it's so marvelously crafted. It reminds me of late Brahms, where he was able to take the most economical raw materials and make consummate masterpieces of them.
@themusicprofessor
@themusicprofessor 11 ай бұрын
Absolutely!
@boundaryconditions1119
@boundaryconditions1119 11 ай бұрын
I am not a good pianist, but I have played some of the late bagatelles, from Op 119. It's astonishing how much he gets from so little material. And at the same time, calling them "Bagatelles". His farewell to the piano is simultaneously dismissing it, and elevating the simplest of music to astonishing heights.
@themusicprofessor
@themusicprofessor 11 ай бұрын
Absolutely right!
@ihaveacoolnickname
@ihaveacoolnickname 11 ай бұрын
For an artist, the gift of being able to encapsulate the sublime into the simple is one of the rarest of them all. You can search all your life and never find it.
@islaadele1212
@islaadele1212 11 ай бұрын
Imagine having such supreme talent and yet being cursed by not being able to hear your own creations. I read that he had the legs cut off his piano so it was close to the ground and he could instead feel the vibrations. That's heartbreaking.
@johnchessant3012
@johnchessant3012 11 ай бұрын
This is awesome! Composers' late works are endlessly fascinating to me
@zerois2801
@zerois2801 11 ай бұрын
Indeed their stylistic evolution and growth is a joy to see
@themusicprofessor
@themusicprofessor 11 ай бұрын
Late style is an endlessly fascinating topic.
@Baseline_truth
@Baseline_truth 11 ай бұрын
Bagatelle: 'a thing regarded as too unimportant to be worth much consideration.' 😅 I think not. Lovely bit of 🎶
@demertzis2694
@demertzis2694 11 ай бұрын
0:44 this note here hits in the heart omg
@themusicprofessor
@themusicprofessor 11 ай бұрын
Yes!
@alenkapintar8660
@alenkapintar8660 11 ай бұрын
I love Beethoven's music. One of the great composers. Never enough of his music.
@DeflatingAtheism
@DeflatingAtheism 11 ай бұрын
Incredibly gorgeous! Beethoven’s genius could find the incredible beauty in both complexity as well as simplicity!
@themusicprofessor
@themusicprofessor 11 ай бұрын
Exactly!
@drmichaelshea
@drmichaelshea 11 ай бұрын
I’ll always love Beethoven.
@basedokadaizo
@basedokadaizo 11 ай бұрын
i like to compose music. i am teaching myself music theory. it is slow. i listen to other, better artists, and i somehow hope their spirit will descend into my hand. but i could never reach the heights this man had. he struggled far more than i do now, yet gave us such beauty. i know it's no good to give up just because others are better. but i just wish i could feel whatever took him over in those moments, with a pen and paper handy at the fortepiano.
@paulograca3937
@paulograca3937 11 ай бұрын
Beethoven is simply a genious
@tchaffman
@tchaffman 11 ай бұрын
And yet he's just as human as all of us
@paulograca3937
@paulograca3937 11 ай бұрын
​@@tchaffmanfact
@greyshadow37
@greyshadow37 6 ай бұрын
This is the type of music that I like. He'll always be an inspiration to me.
@alexhenderson3364
@alexhenderson3364 11 ай бұрын
I havent even watched the video yet, but I'm shocked by the uncanny timing of this. I'm reading Gödel, Escher, Bach, A Golden Braid, and Just finished the section going over this hidden B-A-C-H at the end of his last piece. Didnt speak it out loud, didn't search for more info, and now I'm recommended a video by a KZbinr I've never seen, talking about this topic. Uncanny.
@themusicprofessor
@themusicprofessor 11 ай бұрын
At some point, we will look at Bach's final contrapunctus in the Art of Fugue, where his name appears as his final unfinished fugue subject... (it is a bit mind-blowing!)
@sirwan505
@sirwan505 11 ай бұрын
A great book by my favourite author. If you haven't already, you ought to read his book Metamagical Themas (this is a very cute anagram), and read up on his articles of music and pattern and his 'Variations on a Theme is the Crux of Creativity'. They are two fantastic articles on the very nature of 'originality' in ideas and he sheds light on some Beethoven and Chopin in these works. They very much allude to what Beethoven is doing here, especially the 'Variations on a Theme' article!
@fredhoupt4078
@fredhoupt4078 11 ай бұрын
The masters last bagatelles are supreme art, sublime, simple, compact, perfect gems. Coming into existence right after the mountains of the 9th, it seems like the exhausted and increasingly I'll master seeks to catch his breath, find a little balance. I agree that they greatly influenced the next generation of composers.
@themusicprofessor
@themusicprofessor 11 ай бұрын
Excellent comment. Thank you
@joestephens7105
@joestephens7105 11 ай бұрын
Love it! Thanks for reminding me of this beautiful piece!
@maryannpost8146
@maryannpost8146 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing this. I needed to hear this today. Love to all!
@darb.musica
@darb.musica 11 ай бұрын
Beautiful. Great analysis, thank you
@synchro505
@synchro505 11 ай бұрын
Outstanding. So fortunate to have found this channel. Many thanks.
@zainmardini9573
@zainmardini9573 11 ай бұрын
My favorite bagatelle by Beethoven is the bagatelle that comes right before this one (Op.126, No. 4), for I am a huge sucker to the fast tempo, and intense, militaristic sound. However, this one is very good too!
@themusicprofessor
@themusicprofessor 11 ай бұрын
There will be a video about 'the one before' soon...
@federicoprice2687
@federicoprice2687 11 ай бұрын
Sublime. Thank you, Prof, for the reminder of this beautiful piece ❤
@steve29roses
@steve29roses 11 ай бұрын
The Bagatelles have a special place in my heart although it hadn't occur to that this was his farewell to the piano! Thank you for sharing.
@themusicprofessor
@themusicprofessor 11 ай бұрын
Well, it's not the absolute farewell because there's another bagatelle after it!
@juankliss
@juankliss 11 ай бұрын
Simply made my cry with joy
@user-kz8bi9zy7r
@user-kz8bi9zy7r 4 ай бұрын
I love your works...thanks Beethoven
@JonathanOvnat
@JonathanOvnat 11 ай бұрын
Wonderful 👏
@harpsitardo
@harpsitardo 11 ай бұрын
Great video on this fascinating piece. I still find this opus so gratifying to play.
@themusicprofessor
@themusicprofessor 11 ай бұрын
It's wonderful. I think Beethoven intended the Op 126 cycle to be a self-contained set, almost an equivalent to a sonata - a different way of doing things. It was a pioneering thing to do. They are marvellous pieces.
@harpsitardo
@harpsitardo 11 ай бұрын
@@themusicprofessor I think you're correct about that: not only does it make musical sense, but Beethoven himself seems to have had that goal (he wrote a note on the sketch of the first piece, "Ciclus von Kleinigkeiten", indicating the cyclical nature of the pieces).
@ryebread7224
@ryebread7224 11 ай бұрын
I really enjoy your commentary/notes in this video!
@FRumpelstiltskin66
@FRumpelstiltskin66 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for making this video
@timothy4664
@timothy4664 11 ай бұрын
My favorite bagatelle. I have always felt this work ought to be performed with a slightly slower tempo as it suits the composition's contemplative nature. This piece is easy to play but requires refined technique and sensibility to perform.
@themusicprofessor
@themusicprofessor 11 ай бұрын
It seems easy but it's really difficult! I know what you mean about slower tempo, and I certainly used to play it slower. However, I'm convinced that Beethoven's 'Quasi Allegretto' implies a bit more movement than it often receives from pianists.
@bartremmelzwaal5775
@bartremmelzwaal5775 11 ай бұрын
I'm ashamed that I wasn't aware of this opus... thanks, beautiful
@colinsoder
@colinsoder 11 ай бұрын
I had never heard it either! So beautiful, playful, relaxing, and pleasant. Like an early morning walk through a meadow
@hnrysml
@hnrysml 2 ай бұрын
wow I hadn't heard this before and I absolutely loved it, and you can totally feel immediately how it inspired the songs without words
@johnnyMcSheep
@johnnyMcSheep 11 ай бұрын
This melancholic joy with a happy ache is why I subbed to this channel
@themusicprofessor
@themusicprofessor 11 ай бұрын
Thank you so much! Wonderful comment.
@izzyk867
@izzyk867 11 ай бұрын
That’s a beautiful description.
@TrainFlood
@TrainFlood 4 ай бұрын
Sitting here crying at this piece. Thank you for sharing this
@JamwebMusic
@JamwebMusic 2 ай бұрын
The simplicity makes it so beautiful 😢
@philipthonemann2524
@philipthonemann2524 4 ай бұрын
It is a beautiful little piece!
@franciscocanizaressanchez-3638
@franciscocanizaressanchez-3638 11 ай бұрын
Outstanding video and explanation. Perfect music!❤
@organforheartevarosemarier9773
@organforheartevarosemarier9773 11 ай бұрын
Beautiful ❣❣❣
@chjxb
@chjxb 4 ай бұрын
your videos are good. Genuine and to the point.
@darrenpursuingtruth2895
@darrenpursuingtruth2895 11 ай бұрын
Great video. All the bagatelles (there are three sets) are gems, or as someone once described ‘chips from the masters workbench’. The final set of bagatelles by themselves are enough, in my estimation, to mark Beethoven as an exceptional composer.
@themusicprofessor
@themusicprofessor 11 ай бұрын
Absolutely. If he'd written nothing but bagatelles, he'd be considered a very significant composer!
@deanedge5988
@deanedge5988 11 ай бұрын
beautiful
@mduftube
@mduftube 11 ай бұрын
Your analysis in the description is excellent
@BenTrem42
@BenTrem42 6 ай бұрын
_How very lovely ... and sad._
@user-iu2uq4zu9v
@user-iu2uq4zu9v 11 ай бұрын
Beautiful content! No matter how familiar I am with a piece I will always watch your relevant video and find something new!
@themusicprofessor
@themusicprofessor 11 ай бұрын
Thank you. That's a lovely comment!
@jacquesracine9571
@jacquesracine9571 10 ай бұрын
Wow. It’s like all the pain is gone. He’s free.
@jacquesracine9571
@jacquesracine9571 10 ай бұрын
I could have also said ‘My horse for the score”
@jacquesracine9571
@jacquesracine9571 10 ай бұрын
Wonderful channel. Thanks for your great work. Very captivating.
@ZootBurger
@ZootBurger 11 ай бұрын
Brilliant ❤❤
@gimenezagustin
@gimenezagustin 11 ай бұрын
I didn´t know this piece, thank you very much.
@papertoymonsters2748
@papertoymonsters2748 4 ай бұрын
Beethoven did with 2 voices what most couldn't with a 100
@blacksky492
@blacksky492 11 ай бұрын
That was magical
@themusicprofessor
@themusicprofessor 11 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@UMVELINQANGI
@UMVELINQANGI 11 ай бұрын
Charming
@DressedForDrowning
@DressedForDrowning 7 ай бұрын
Wow, this one is great. Now I know who my favorite composer is.
@beethoven_makes_memes_lol
@beethoven_makes_memes_lol 5 ай бұрын
I cried Super hard because this is just.. Sad..
@joeross9478
@joeross9478 11 ай бұрын
I have recently subscribed and I love your channel. I have discovered several composers I had not heard of before and some music I really like. Even better I like the way you present your material. The comments are very much an addition. It's funny you both seem like a professor and you don't seem like one at all. Also I like the fact the scores are hand written. Thanks much.
@themusicprofessor
@themusicprofessor 11 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for your encouraging comment. Simultaneously 'seeming like a professor and not seeming like one at all' - yes, I think that's very perceptive. I'm glad that's how it comes across.
@fatitankeris6327
@fatitankeris6327 11 ай бұрын
This score is printed
@quantum3667
@quantum3667 11 ай бұрын
Loving the content on your KZbin channel! Thank you so much for posting such high quality visuals alongside the sheet music, it really helps in internalizing and understanding the compositions deeply and from a different perspective. I Really hope you get 10x the amount of views/subs, it is well deserved!
@themusicprofessor
@themusicprofessor 11 ай бұрын
Thank you so much!
@quantum3667
@quantum3667 11 ай бұрын
@@themusicprofessor Of course! Could I suggest a video on maybe the Rebecca Clarke Viola sonata or Joseph Jongen's concertino for viola and piano? Both composers have some outstanding and underrated works, and I'm sure some people would be interested in discovering such pieces!
@mk_9116
@mk_9116 11 ай бұрын
So glad i discovered ur channel! Your videos are short and right to the point, unlike other channel when i have to watch 40min of nonsense. Keep it up. And, as a violinist, i hope i can see something related to my instrument. Im sure im not the only one. Something like Brahams, Dovrak or Sibelius violin concerto. That would be one hell of a video
@themusicprofessor
@themusicprofessor 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for the encouragement!
@TrebleWoofer1
@TrebleWoofer1 11 ай бұрын
I played the last Eb bagatelle during my last year as an undergrad as a farewell to college. I went back and did my masters in music and currently teach, research, compose, yet Beethoven's music is STILL so captivating and interesting the older I get - - he just gets better. And let's not forget the man was deaf the last 10 years - - truly an unrelenting man
@diannalaubenberg7532
@diannalaubenberg7532 11 ай бұрын
Oh, my!
@VRnamek
@VRnamek 11 ай бұрын
you often find waltzes and other dances in his sonatas, like in pastoral or appassionata. But I think if there's a single Beethoven piece who really foreshadows and inspired the young romantics was his short sonatina op 79, often called Cuckoo, especially the andante... must have caused quite an impression on those kids
@themusicprofessor
@themusicprofessor 11 ай бұрын
You're absolutely right - that little barcarolle had a big impact on Mendelssohn, and it is very similar in character to the middle of this bagatelle.
@benedicvelasco
@benedicvelasco 4 ай бұрын
It's a shame Beethoven never wrote for the guitar. What wonders he would've made with it.
@wmadmw
@wmadmw 11 ай бұрын
0:54 passage really reminds me of Shostakovich's 2nd Waltz, amazing!
@themusicprofessor
@themusicprofessor 11 ай бұрын
Interesting. Another comment said the same. They are both in C and have a similar momentum but DSCH (being minor) is surely more melancholic.
@juliannadoyle8976
@juliannadoyle8976 11 ай бұрын
What is DSCH stand for please?
@marcraider
@marcraider 10 ай бұрын
@@juliannadoyle8976 I think he is refering to Dimitri Shostakovich
@andresfranzchavez113
@andresfranzchavez113 6 ай бұрын
Actually, if you just whistle the main melody of this section you'll notice more clearly how similar the melodies are (apart from the harmonies). You can almost take one for the other
@connormedberry4901
@connormedberry4901 11 ай бұрын
Less is only more once you know what more is
@ShaunakDesaiPiano
@ShaunakDesaiPiano 11 ай бұрын
0:56 you know what this reminds me of? Shostakovich’s arguably most famous piece, the Waltz from the 2nd Jazz suite.
@orgue2999
@orgue2999 11 ай бұрын
Ouch
@ShaunakDesaiPiano
@ShaunakDesaiPiano 11 ай бұрын
@@orgue2999 why ouch?
@themusicprofessor
@themusicprofessor 11 ай бұрын
I can see what you mean - both tunes share a similar C tonality, and momentum, but Shostakovich's waltz is minor, and generally more melancholic!
@ShaunakDesaiPiano
@ShaunakDesaiPiano 11 ай бұрын
@@themusicprofessor oh totally, I agree. I meant also the melodic line and phrasing of the Beethoven, compared with the Shostakovich
@karolcpm-
@karolcpm- 11 ай бұрын
Beethoven just wanted to put the piano's music to sleep; or better yet, the piano itself.
@DressedForDrowning
@DressedForDrowning 7 ай бұрын
About 2 weeks ago I heard this piece for the first time and fell in love with it. Now I have a question to @The Music Professor, sir. As I understand, the piano in Beethoven's days sounded a bit different as today's pianos sound. How could he have composed such wonderful marvellous sonatas and pieces? Had he had some better versions of piano sound in mind? And can you make a comparison how a piece sounded in Beethoven's days and how it sounds today?
@themusicprofessor
@themusicprofessor 7 ай бұрын
The fortepiano evolved very fast during Beethoven's lifetime and Viennese makers like Nannette Streicher (who was a close friend of Beethoven's) were adapting their pianos to the performance idioms that Beethoven's music required of the instrument. Even so, the pianos of Beethoven's lifetime had a very different sound and action from a modern Steinway. In many ways, their beautiful, fragile tone, and subtle variety of tone is much closer to Beethoven's imagination than the sound of the modern piano.
@mottobel8502
@mottobel8502 11 ай бұрын
Oh that A sharp..
@themobiusfunction
@themobiusfunction 11 ай бұрын
1:01 This C# creates a sharp dissonance (augmented octave) and yet it doesn't sound out of place at all!
@themusicprofessor
@themusicprofessor 11 ай бұрын
Great comment! No - it sounds fantastic!
@kent.1337
@kent.1337 11 ай бұрын
you should do a vid on the first bagatelle from that set
@themusicprofessor
@themusicprofessor 11 ай бұрын
OK
@Stashi1808
@Stashi1808 6 ай бұрын
I'm composing a leider based from my a favorite poem by Longfellow. It begins in Dm goes thru Bbm and ends in Bb I really want the Bb to sound like this. I thought it'd be easy, but how could Beethoven write such stuff? It's awe-inspiring. I feel the opposite from Beethoven. Writing for voice is easy for me where as piano with voice piano as backup that is, is like "child birth!"lol Is there any book on deconstructing Beethoven bagatelles? If so, which would you recommend? Or any books on "his Musical Majesty's" music. Thanks
@themusicprofessor
@themusicprofessor 6 ай бұрын
It's a good question. It would be good if there was a book called "how to compose like Beethoven" but there isn't! The best way to learn though is to imitate initially. So you might like to look closely at a Beethoven bagatelle and see if you can do the same kind of thing your way...
@Stashi1808
@Stashi1808 2 ай бұрын
Thank you! I finished it! And, though I may revise it a few times to come, it's exactly what I wanted. Someday I hope that a baritone and soprano will preform it, for now it is just a voice sound on my free composing app. I'll upload I today.❤
@LouisEmery
@LouisEmery 11 ай бұрын
What piano(forte) was this played on? Now and then, it's nice to hear Beethoven's piano music on an instrument for which he may have known the sound.
@themusicprofessor
@themusicprofessor 11 ай бұрын
I have had the great pleasure of playing a Nanette Streicher fortepiano that Beethoven probably played (housed at the Cobbe Collection in the UK) but actually this was recorded on a modern grand piano. I was pleased that, on the recording, it does almost sound like a fortepiano though.
@qwaqwa1960
@qwaqwa1960 10 ай бұрын
How about the "bagatelle" discovered ~15y ago in his Missa(?) ms...? (or a late 4tet was it...?)
@themusicprofessor
@themusicprofessor 9 ай бұрын
I'm not aware of this...
@KVSGamer
@KVSGamer 11 ай бұрын
Beethoven's last word to his piano was a rest
@malcolmdale9607
@malcolmdale9607 3 ай бұрын
I seem to be the only one that is not convinced that Beethoven wrote this. It is nothing like the style of any of his late works.
@themusicprofessor
@themusicprofessor 3 ай бұрын
erm...given that we have it in his manuscript and he had it published in 1825, I'm not sure how to convince you further. Actually the style is similar to several passages I can think of. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bagatelles,_Op._126_(Beethoven)
@PaulJoseph
@PaulJoseph 9 ай бұрын
Great presentation! Also, at 1:56 the key signature incorrectly states D instead of G.
@themusicprofessor
@themusicprofessor 9 ай бұрын
The middle section is in D and this is taken from the first edition - I suspect it's an engraver's error.
@themobiusfunction
@themobiusfunction 7 ай бұрын
@@themusicprofessor actually the middle section is in C
@Fagocytos1s
@Fagocytos1s 11 ай бұрын
I really enjoy and appreciate your content, as it reminds me of the importance of learning the actual history and story behind each composer's piece, with which to imbue one's own performance of it. Thank you for enhancing both my own performance of pieces and my appreciation of them!
@themusicprofessor
@themusicprofessor 11 ай бұрын
Thank you so much. Wonderful to hear that it's helpful. Yes -it's so important to know the context of the music we play: it makes it all come alive!
@Fagocytos1s
@Fagocytos1s 11 ай бұрын
​@@themusicprofessor Totally. It's what we're all taught by our music/instrument teachers but when we move on, as I have, a lot of us forget that and just interpret a piece and it's story solely from what we hear. Historical study is integral to musicianship, not just the act of performance.
@nachito2002
@nachito2002 8 ай бұрын
There Are Two Musical Pieces That Could Be Possibly His Last Works: 1) String Quartet No. 13 In B-Flat Major, Op. 130: Negative Reaction To The Work's Final Movement At The First Performance, And His Publisher's Urging, Led Beethoven To Write A Substitute For The Final Movement, A Contredanse Much Shorter And Lighter Than The Enormous Große Fuge It Replaced. This New Finale Was Written In The Late Autumn of 1826, During A Relapse Into Severe Illness, And Is The Final Complete Piece of Music Beethoven Composed Before His Death In March, 1827. 2) Bagatelle In F Minor, Kullack f. 51/52: This Was Written In 1826, A Year After The Six Bagatelles. IMSLP Says This Could Be The Last Composition For Piano, Actually Uncatalogued. 3) Instrumental Draft, Biamonti 849: Written In 1827, It Contains Sketches For The Last Movement of His String Quartet No. 13, Op. 130. According To An Annotation By The Highly Unreliable Anton Schindler, These Are The Last Notes Written By Beethoven, Ten or Twelve Days Before His Death. Based On Its Location, This Fragment Is Indeed One of The Very Last Musical Writings, If Not The Last, Of The Composer, And Cannot Date From Any Earlier Than November 1826. The Intended Instrumentation Is Unclear, But Since It Appears On Two Staves Piano Was Conjectured. This Item Has The Final Biamonti Number.
@themusicprofessor
@themusicprofessor 8 ай бұрын
There is also a sketch for an unfinished string quintet and several incomplete sketches for a 10th symphony. I recall that Beethoven also spoke, near the end of his life, about wanting to compose a requiem and an overture on the theme B.A.C.H.
@FindleyOcean
@FindleyOcean 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for introducing me to this piece! Now was Beethoven completely deaf when he wrote this?
@themusicprofessor
@themusicprofessor 9 ай бұрын
His hearing was very poor at the end of his life, although I believe he could hear some sounds, and I believe he still made use of ear trumpets when composing.
@sherylbegby
@sherylbegby 11 ай бұрын
Does anyone know anything about the authenticity of this piece? I inherited a ton of sheet music as a kid, but this one had "Definitely not by Beethoven" clearly written in the margin. And if you search for this piece on the internet there's plenty of doubt about its authenticity, although it is described as a "popular parlor piece in the 19th and early 20th century" in some places.
@themusicprofessor
@themusicprofessor 11 ай бұрын
Sorry but I think you need to check your sources on this one. The Op 126 bagatelles are as authentic as the 5th Symphony. These are essential late works, with absolutely no query whatsoever of authenticity. His handwritten manuscript can be seen online (on IMSLP) as can the 1st edition, which was published under his supervision in 1825. The manuscript and published materials are all in the Beethoven Haus in Bonn, if you want to check on their reliability! www.beethoven.de/en/work/view/6442185083846656/Six+Bagatelles+for+piano+op.+126
@emanuel_soundtrack
@emanuel_soundtrack 11 ай бұрын
i wrote this
@Veepee92
@Veepee92 11 ай бұрын
Are you sure you're not confusing this with the Sonatina in G major? That one has dubious authenticity.
@eriksatieofficiel
@eriksatieofficiel 11 ай бұрын
@@themusicprofessor How do we know about the authenticity of the 5th symphony though?
@themusicprofessor
@themusicprofessor 11 ай бұрын
I suspect the confusion is with a piece called 'Adieu for the Piano' which is a very pretty Romantic piano piece in F major, published in the 1830s and attributed to Beethoven for commercial reasons. It's a lovely waltz in a moderate tempo, with a charming tertiary shift to A major, that's not unlike the kind of thing Beethoven does on occasion. However, it has a Romantic salon character that Beethoven's music very rarely (if ever) has. It's still a nice piece though and not too difficult to play.
@andresdaniel6711
@andresdaniel6711 11 ай бұрын
La Romanesca.
@BenjaminCherkassky
@BenjaminCherkassky 10 ай бұрын
1:09 How did it inspire a genre? Barcarolles have been popular since at least the 1770s. And Mendelssohn's Venetian gondola songs are very different in tone
@themusicprofessor
@themusicprofessor 10 ай бұрын
In the 1820s Mendelssohn studied late Beethoven more than any other composer.
@harryk4840
@harryk4840 11 ай бұрын
Lo es
@majorpayne8373
@majorpayne8373 4 ай бұрын
Was this a French bagatelle?
@curtmcd
@curtmcd 11 ай бұрын
I was expecting the one in F major called literally "Adieu to the piano".
@themusicprofessor
@themusicprofessor 11 ай бұрын
"Adieu to the piano" is a little early Romantic F major piece with a pretty melody. Probably not by Beethoven.
@Gustinante
@Gustinante 2 ай бұрын
There seems to be a mistake at the end of the score, 'cause you're playing in G major but the score is in D major. 1:58
@themusicprofessor
@themusicprofessor 2 ай бұрын
Yes - it's the first edition from 1826. The key signature is wrong.
@bealreadyhappy
@bealreadyhappy 11 ай бұрын
I don’t understand why do you say it’s his farewell to the piano? please explain thank you
@themusicprofessor
@themusicprofessor 11 ай бұрын
If you read the video description, below the video, it gives a very clear explanation! This is the 5th piece in Beethoven's final set of Bagatelles Op 126, his last major piano composition.
@louisvalencia5244
@louisvalencia5244 6 ай бұрын
Letzer Musikalischer Gedanken ?
@museprof
@museprof 11 ай бұрын
If Bach had written this, the melodic gesture in the right hand in bar 2 and elsewhere would be an obvious example of the Kreuz (cross) motif, and the parallel thirds and 3-part writing would be candidates for Trinitarian symbolism. What are your thoughts on whether Beethoven intended these to be Christian symbols?
@themusicprofessor
@themusicprofessor 11 ай бұрын
It's difficult to know - he's not explicit about it. He is explicit in the great sonata Op 110 in which the finale appears to be a symbolic representation of death and resurrection.
@jrgptr935
@jrgptr935 11 ай бұрын
Erstens: Hätte, hätte, Fahrradkette. Zweitens: Wenn Bthvn nichts darüber gesagt oder geschrieben hat, dann wissen wir rein gar nichts darüber, was er gedacht haben könnte. Er könnte eben durchaus an die duftenden Bratkartoffeln mit Zwiebeln, die es um 18 Uhr zum Nachtessen geben sollte, gedacht haben.
@brianbernstein3826
@brianbernstein3826 11 ай бұрын
By FAR the strangest part of this happens at 1:20. The C major section ends in key of G, with a D major chord (dominant) and the lightest, weakest G major chord ever…. then back to C. It’s a very rough and unconvincing transition
@themusicprofessor
@themusicprofessor 11 ай бұрын
It is unorthodox certainly, but quite typical of the harmonic innovations of Beethoven's late style, in which standard progressions and harmonic rhythm are often deliberately subverted, standard cadential formulae are avoided and curious elisions occur instead of more conventional transitions. These are all recurring things throughout the music of his final decade - and absolutely what he intended: not the result of technical deficiency.
@brianbernstein3826
@brianbernstein3826 11 ай бұрын
@@themusicprofessor Agreed. It actually reminded me a bit of what he does in piano sonata 28 movement 1... the first theme is in A major yet we never get a tonic cadence. At the end of the first phrase he immediately does a "just kidding it's actually a dominant chord"
@themusicprofessor
@themusicprofessor 11 ай бұрын
Yes, it's an extraordinary piece, that one.
@mtrsoftwareservices
@mtrsoftwareservices 11 ай бұрын
Okay, now I'm sad. 😢
@themusicprofessor
@themusicprofessor 11 ай бұрын
Beethoven's too life-affirming to be too sad.
@eriksatieofficiel
@eriksatieofficiel 11 ай бұрын
It's been known for many years that Beethoven was dead though.
@user-ce6sr1my6k
@user-ce6sr1my6k 11 ай бұрын
0:47 Tchaikovsky)))
@themusicprofessor
@themusicprofessor 11 ай бұрын
Interesting. Which piece?
@mystogan6556
@mystogan6556 11 ай бұрын
​@@themusicprofessormy guess is Waltz of the Flower. Could be wrong but that's the closest one
@houdacookies
@houdacookies 11 ай бұрын
Plz can someone give me the opus and number?
@themusicprofessor
@themusicprofessor 11 ай бұрын
It's on the video description
@lawrencetaylor4101
@lawrencetaylor4101 11 ай бұрын
Merci for the gift of Beethoven. I go walking in the woods listening to Beethoven Symphonies instead of the silence of nature. Without his music, I would be like Luigi, since there are no more birds, insects, worms. We're going through a mass extinction. Beethoven loved nature. He would be outraged at modern man. We don't deserve the Ninth. My Radiology professor always talked about Beethoven when he presented Paget's Disease, an abnormal bony growth after adulthood. Often the first sign is that the hat has become too small. His bony ear canals became narrower, crushing the auditory nerve. First came the tinnitus and then deafness. He also suffered from joint pains. And he gave us these gifts.
@gerdprengel7616
@gerdprengel7616 11 ай бұрын
These bagatelles are gorgeous, but what really were Beethovens last notes for piano is this melancholic tune (with my variations):kzbin.info/www/bejne/i3yZeKKolremmqs from 1826 with an harmonically interesting bass line
@themusicprofessor
@themusicprofessor 11 ай бұрын
I don't know this sketch. It's very intriguing - especially the enigmatic opening (B flat minor). I'm imagining he only sketched the first 16 bars or so?
@gprengel
@gprengel 11 ай бұрын
@@themusicprofessor yes, there are only these bars. I hope, also my variations do speak to you ... I am very fascinated by Beethhoven's sketches and developed quite a number of them, for example this string quartet based on Beethoven's last project, a string quintet in C-Major, here the first movement: kzbin.info/www/bejne/f3TNpnh5qd95g8k :-)
@themusicprofessor
@themusicprofessor 11 ай бұрын
Thank you. I do know this opening material, and hearing it on strings does make sense of it in a way that Diabelli's published piano version doesn't.
@gerdprengel7616
@gerdprengel7616 11 ай бұрын
Yes, the Diabelli Version does not really catch the beauty of this introduction which reminds me much of the Namensfeier overture. And what do you think of the Allegro?
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