Beethoven - Symphony 3 in E♭, Op.55 ("Eroica") (Color-Coded Analysis)

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The Real Ed Chang

The Real Ed Chang

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@TheWindWaker333
@TheWindWaker333 11 жыл бұрын
4:34 - 5:11 If there was any one time when the Romantic era began it must have been when Beethoven wrote this. Especially 5:05. I can't imagine anything like it being written before Beethoven.
@TheCaoth
@TheCaoth 11 жыл бұрын
7:18 -- "I said, 'That damned horn player! Can't he count properly? It sounds infamously wrong!' I think I nearly had my ears boxed - Beethoven did not forgive me for a long time." -- Ferdinand Ries, 1838
@목사님-h8v
@목사님-h8v 6 жыл бұрын
2nd and 4th mvts are ALL wrong. The CORRECT structure is listed below: II. Marcia funebre. Adagio assai A: (c) - a (c) - a' (c - Eb) - b (Eb - c) - a" (f - c) - b' (Eb - c) - a''' (f - c) - codetta (c) B: (C) - a (C - G) - b (C) - a' (C - C) A: (c) - a (c - f) - c (f - g - c) - a' (c - Eb) - b (Eb - c) - a''' (f - c) - codetta (c) CODA (c) IV. Finale. Allegro molto - Poco Andante - Tempo I - Introduzione (Eb) - Thema (Eb) - Variation I (Eb) - Variation II (Eb) - Variation III (Eb) + Transition - Variation IV (c, fuga) - Variation V (D) - Variation VI (g) + Transition - Variation VII (Eb, fuga) - Variation VIII (Eb, Poco Andante, 1/2) - Variation IX (Eb, Poco Andante, 2/2) - Variation X (Eb, Poco Andante) - Coda (Eb, Poco Andante - Tempo I)
@MoiAussi18
@MoiAussi18 4 жыл бұрын
Many thanks for this. Very useful.
@danielkelly5910
@danielkelly5910 8 жыл бұрын
I love the tempi - nothing bloated, nothing attempting to sound monumental - just the fierce energy of the music itself. Does anyone know the orchestra and conductor?
@PastorG-bm1ch
@PastorG-bm1ch 4 жыл бұрын
los 43 minutos de mi vida mas perdidos. Gracias profe de música
@Timrath
@Timrath 11 жыл бұрын
Strange how the pitch gradually dropped during these 43 minutes. Play the first 10 seconds and then the last 10 seconds and have your ears blown away by almost half a semitone.
@isaach4296
@isaach4296 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe because the orchestra has been playing for so long that their instruments gradually becomes out of tune?
@telemachus53
@telemachus53 5 жыл бұрын
It may have something to do with fact that the tempo has significantly slowed down. Prob. a fault of the up loader.
@NeutronDance
@NeutronDance 8 жыл бұрын
can anyone point me towards a performance where the exposition is repeated? thanks
@danieleriksson5728
@danieleriksson5728 8 жыл бұрын
that kinda threw me off aswell, i'm not sure i like the fast tempo they perform the piece with here either.
@VRichardsn
@VRichardsn 6 жыл бұрын
_i'm not sure i like the fast tempo they perform the piece with here either_ This was recorded following Beethoven's metronome markings.
@NN-df7hl
@NN-df7hl 2 жыл бұрын
Ed, could you kindly tell me how the A theme differs from the B in the scherzo? I can hear no difference. It all sounds like one main theme.
@lvbandmore
@lvbandmore 2 жыл бұрын
The A theme is the small beginning at 27:17. This is followed by 2 B themes at 27:29 & 28:34 which are modulated and expanded versions of the A theme. I suppose it could also be perceived as one long theme section if you like.:)
@NN-df7hl
@NN-df7hl 2 жыл бұрын
@@lvbandmore Thanks, Ed! And by "modulated" I guess you mean the B section is in a different key?
@lvbandmore
@lvbandmore 2 жыл бұрын
@@NN-df7hl Yes!
@sprcow
@sprcow 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting this. Great refresher before seeing B3 live.
@makytondr8607
@makytondr8607 9 жыл бұрын
+Alex Pritchard And also a good refreshed after seeing it live :)
@mahmoodiaco
@mahmoodiaco 10 жыл бұрын
Really its the best movement of all symphonies all time. i tried to recomposed some of its notes in my phone
@WeepingWillow6497
@WeepingWillow6497 12 жыл бұрын
What key is the second theme of the scherzo in? The section you label as B.
@RohrDC
@RohrDC 6 жыл бұрын
42:26
@los_audaces
@los_audaces 6 жыл бұрын
how to download this video whit te notes?
@NgChongZheng96
@NgChongZheng96 12 жыл бұрын
Those horns dayum
@rw1993n64
@rw1993n64 11 жыл бұрын
yes and this symphony was dedicated to the celebration of napoelon, before he crowned himself emperor.
@yinge101
@yinge101 11 жыл бұрын
37:10 Yep, it's over now. LOL JUST KIDDING.
@VRichardsn
@VRichardsn 6 жыл бұрын
Classic Beethoven.
@joannahague7363
@joannahague7363 9 жыл бұрын
This is really good and clear, however for the benefit of trad music theory, it would be great if you could re-label 1st theme etc to 1st subject. I think that what you call the 2nd theme which is in F is part of a dominant prep for the 2nd Subject in Bb (your theme 3) This reappears at 4.03 and that's one of Beethoven's bits of mis-direction because it leads, not to full-on 2nd subject development, but as you rightly say to what might be the first Romantic era fugue. Well music theorists will always disagree, and I know that you are trying to keep things simple.
@makytondr8607
@makytondr8607 9 жыл бұрын
+joanna hague I was thinking about that too. Some of the "themes" were rather just "motives", or "subjects", but who cares about the words, MUSIC is the most important thing here and I am pretty sure the author of the video just wanted to make the things simple for everyone ;)
@makytondr8607
@makytondr8607 9 жыл бұрын
+joanna hague Also the "fugue" should rather be called a fugato :)
@bmort1313
@bmort1313 8 жыл бұрын
I understand you, but sometimes something can be too dumbed down to the point of being just plain wrong. Mis-interpreting the music, for public purposes or not, is equivalent to pissing on the score and throwing it onto Beethoven's grave. Because this piece is not one to be misinterpreted, mainly because everything is so simple and in front of you, and disregarding it is a sin beyond murder. And from what I can see, this analyst has more urine in him than a camel.
@chito049
@chito049 11 жыл бұрын
thank you for posting this video!!!!
@aayeung90
@aayeung90 12 жыл бұрын
This will definitely help me for my music history final :-]
@HarbingerGunner
@HarbingerGunner 12 жыл бұрын
not going to lie. it was tempting for me
@hannibaltheundeadcat
@hannibaltheundeadcat 12 жыл бұрын
Currently my favorite symphony. Certainly my favorite of Beethoven's works, it seems under-appreciated compared to his other more famous compositions.
@tongwilson
@tongwilson 13 жыл бұрын
Great!!!!
@4Clan8975
@4Clan8975 3 жыл бұрын
Yo it’s still good
@WeepingWillow6497
@WeepingWillow6497 11 жыл бұрын
That's what Beethoven said about Napoleon isn't it?
@WhiteMaskPianist
@WhiteMaskPianist 11 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!
@profViolino
@profViolino 9 жыл бұрын
Excellent! thanks ;)
@tmz714zmt
@tmz714zmt 12 жыл бұрын
0 dislikes! Great! Shows just how amazing this symphony is! Now watch a hater come along right after I post this...
@Valbuenium
@Valbuenium 12 жыл бұрын
6:18 ♥
@tasoscheilaris4680
@tasoscheilaris4680 7 жыл бұрын
For me this is the most thrilling part of the First Movement.
@colterOfficial
@colterOfficial 4 жыл бұрын
bruh classic music moment
@cdiegorodriguez
@cdiegorodriguez 10 жыл бұрын
That funeral march is WAY too fast! 15 minutes? Are you kidding me?
@VRichardsn
@VRichardsn 6 жыл бұрын
Leibowitz followed Beethoven's original metronome markings, which is why Leibowitz's rendition of all 9 symphonies sound faster than usual.
@stonewallbaron09
@stonewallbaron09 6 жыл бұрын
Natural Selection Beethoven disagrees with you, and Furtwängler
@stonewallbaron09
@stonewallbaron09 6 жыл бұрын
Too fast for you maybe, but not for Beethoven, you know, the man that wrote it..
@stonewallbaron09
@stonewallbaron09 6 жыл бұрын
Natural Selection It is awesome no doubt, and I do enjoy different interpretations. But, that still doesn’t change the fact that Beethoven composed it to be played much faster. We all call Beethoven a great genius, and then virtually everyone ignores his tempos. I think Gardiner nails it, but Furtwängler is a badass for sure
@rw1993n64
@rw1993n64 11 жыл бұрын
So he is no more than a common mortal! Now, too, he will tread under foot all the rights of man, indulge only his ambition; now he will think himself superior to all men, become a tyrant!
@Ultraempoleon
@Ultraempoleon 11 жыл бұрын
Who In Gods name Dislikes this
@MKH-dh8td
@MKH-dh8td 6 жыл бұрын
Vive l'Empereur!
@maxcohen13
@maxcohen13 12 жыл бұрын
WAAYYY too fast.
@VRichardsn
@VRichardsn 6 жыл бұрын
This was recorded following Beethoven's metronome markings.
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