Before and after video on a 18' SunTracker with a 60HP

This video shows how Hydrofin hydrofoils lift this boat for a faster, more efficient, and better ride.

[@jacobellis8135]

Finally.. This has got to be one of your best videos. Although that full installation video was pretty good but I still think this one is better. What a cool demonstration.

[@fryloc359]

I'd like to see an after video with a dozen people in the bow.

[@jacobellis8135]

I haven't seen him do one with a bunch of people but he did put out a video with a boat-load of sand bags.

[@robvlob]

Submarine?

[@cwjarvis3]

A dozen? I don't think you're going to safely put a dozen people on a pontoon boat rated for six. With or without fins

[@fryloc359]

@@cwjarvis3 who said anything about being safe? Half the time I see a party barge its overloaded.

[@lvdriver4]

Looks great I may need to upgrade

[@cliffcampbell8827]

With bigger wings, the boat should be able to get on plane quicker. The trade off would be a lower top speed from the increased resistance. There might be a way to improve efficiency with slight modification to the leading edge of the wings. Play around with some different designs to see what works best.

[@kk4pqr]

Awesome idea. What if you close the underside so the wind tunnel works better with let turbulence?

[@hydrofin]

This is a good idea. We have that done on our demo boat.

[@ctom4932]

That's a neat device. What's the speed change? Getting reduced fuel consumption for the distance covered? View of acceleration from underneath without it installed? All that splashing and spraying of the underside, is that a plywood floor? Some paper thin aluminum sheets to block it would lengthen the floors life.

[@Jessiejam-44]

Very Cool!

[@cwgreen1938]

I never seen an 18' pontoon boat with a 60hp Mercury go as fast as yours does without the hydrofin. With the hydrofin it looks like it took a long time for it to get on the plane and get up to speed. I have a 20' Sun Tracker with a 70hp Evinrude and it will only go about 25mph with only me in the boat. I had thought about getting the hydrofin but it would be almost as cheep to trade for a tritoon.

[@rickhale4348]

Surely it's not that expensive. There isn't that much to it material wise. Even with servos to adjust the plane it wouldn't be that much.

[@hydrofin]

The parts are about $2,400 and labor for install is $1,500. Not bad for a 6-8mph speed increase

[@tylerberryman24]

Your playing with the trim during these too? I gotta ask cuz that’s some good results

[@scottmcintosh2988]

Barry Davis attached a hydrofoil to a Canadian Destroyer also made the Davis Rotor to generate electricity and produce pure hydrogen and oxygen for NASA

[@foreman3737]

that's pretty cool.

[@davidoneal4819]

Kind've curious what that would look like if you were to run aground or hit stump/log ect. Is the boat's pontoons going to be ripped open when the fins catch or dig in? Not a bash or jab just genuinely curious how they would hold up in an incident of that nature.

[@hydrofin]

Hey David. Great question. We’ve got hundreds of these foils installed on boats around the country, in Canada, and Australia. Out of all of those, we’ve had about 5 people hit submerged objects at cruising speed (between 20-30mph) and none caused damage to the boat or required replacement parts from Hydrofin. The entire system was engineered for strength and durability but will break off if the loads exceed 2,500 lbs at the tips of the foils. This is to protect the integrity of the boat since the foils can be easily replaced. I hope this helps.

[@timtanimura9583]

great video, do think this will my engine cavitation. at full speed the engine starts winding out. I have a 75 hp on tracker 18dlx

[@hydrofin]

You may need a different prop. Boats with Hydrofin ride higher in the water which increases RPM’s 200-400. But, we’ve don’t lots of your boat so know Hydrofin works well and would make a big difference

[@taliesinangling3564]

It’s so funny seeing pontoon boats trying to go fast

[@Jkur2009]

Yeah, except these days some of them are actually stupid fast.

[@craigs1266]

I see them all the time. Usually with twins or triplets.

[@nedkent5239]

45mph in a pontoon drives like a bread truck in high wind conditions. You take ur hand off steering wheel and ur spinning out.

[@chrissullivan4496]

COOL

[@RG-od8ri]

Seems like it’s best for long, full speed runs.

[@darinb4794]

2 questions... I have a 2022 suntracker 20 PB w/ 90HP mercury. will the higher ride effect my motor mount position? will weight distribution dull any effects? ( front heavy with people, rear heavy with my ice chest mounted?)

[@hydrofin]

Hey Darin, you should not have to change the position your motor is mounted. Weight distribution will have some effect but you will be able to find the "sweet spot" with your trim as people and weight move around the boat.

[@kevinhoffman6592]

Cool

[@jbmcdonald5646]

What took so long?

[@markhonea2461]

What a great idea! The most surprising thing I noticed was the plywood construction of the hull between the pontoons. Really?

[@Clutch_Kick187]

Most all pontoons are marine grade plywood floors.. Mine is 20yrs old and looks like new.. And my boat sits on the water 5 months a year before being stored on the trailer in a garage.. They don't rot unless you let it sit in with water on it for long periods of time..

[@charliejohnson5458]

My biggest concern would be if you hit anything. Would it rip a hole in the pontoon?

[@TG-ln8iz]

Each pontoon has different chambers

[@charliejohnson5458]

@@TG-ln8iz i know that. My concern is what it adds to the draft when the boat isnt moving. I love the idea and wish it was possible to get, but we have a fishing pontoon boat and would probably get damaged pretty quick by a stump or sand bar you cannot see.

[@hydrofin]

On most installs the wings will draft only 2-4 inches below the boat. Your motor will be much deeper in the water. The system is designed to withstand a fairly substantial impact, but at the same time has fail points to ensure no damage will be done to your boat in a worst case scenario.

[@wallacegrommet9343]

Look out Haulover Inlet!

[@seangrey3505]

I do the same thing with the trim button up and down seem to do the same thing for me

[@hydrofin]

Hydrofin dramatically improves the trim ability of pontoon boats.

[@rickhale4348]

With the front lifted up like that I'd say a sudden strong head wind could be a problem. Likely flipping the boat. Not a criticism but just an observation. Very nice and I bet the ride was much improved. You don't have to go very fast to feel it on water.

[@alexnutcasio936]

Oh please, it’s going to take a lot more than that to flip the boat…..

[@rickhale4348]

Actually not. The hydrofoil effect lifts the boat and a strong wind at the correct angle could do the job. The boat is already exposing much of it's surface are. I've had wind do a number on a boat off the coast of Florida. It's just speculation and caution.

[@alexnutcasio936]

@@rickhale4348 not likely at those speeds. Blowovers rarely , if ever, happen on pontoons.

[@rickhale4348]

@@alexnutcasio936 Your probably correct. It was just a thought.

[@chuckfowler8875]

Before your running on slight chop after your running on glass beleave it or not that will make the boat ride different and the way it cuts through the water you need to demo on the exact condition then we'll see.

[@hydrofin]

It takes time for the adhesive to cure, so with customer boats it is often hard to replicate the exact conditions. We do have videos of our demo boat that the "before and after" were filmed within the same hour.

[@doolittleranch8302]

AWESOME!!!! How much???

[@hydrofin]

check out our website shophydrofin.com to learn more and see our pricing! We are also having a Black Friday special so be on the look out for more info on the deal!

[@alkalk8938]

Add 3 more big passengers, 14 poles 2 anchors an 80gallon belly live well a huge cooler with 2 cases of beer another battery to run accessories 20 gallons of fuel and the before and after would be 10mph and 11.5mph.

[@Zzus321]

Ya forgot the 1/4 cord of wood ahh

[@hydrofin]

Check out some of our other videos and you will see Hydrofin does great with varying load sizes!

[@robvlob]

But at 10mph with hydrofin you would only need 15-19 gallons to run the same distance as 20 gallons without. Having marginally less weight could also marginally effect full economy and speed.

[@jent7930]

did you have to raise or lower your motor after the installation?

[@hydrofin]

No, but we did change props to to higher pitch. That helped keep the RPM’s in line w mfg. specs

[@randallmason9687]

Cool idea! Now put at least a 225hp on it, and let the horse's run!!

[@neiljuedes1661]

Can I put this on my pontoon if I trailer it on a trailer that goes in between the tubes ?

[@hydrofin]

Unfortunately any trailer that lifts the boat from the deck will not work with our system.

[@Alniemi]

Wow I never knew the bottom of those pontoon boats were just some wood! I can’t imagine that lasts very long even with coating, I’m surprised it’s not aluminum or fiberglass

[@toolshed2ndbatt]

It’s made with marine grade plywood. And yes sir, it last. Some people do buy an aluminum underpinning. My uncle’s pontoon was bought in 1992. He has never worked on or replaced the deck. Like anything else, proper use and care.

[@quedogkualum]

The floor last long as you let it air dry after every use

[@czrider3999]

G3 is all aluminum. Great pontoon boats

[@chadmartin3690]

I’m getting a sun tracker 20 party barge built. Will be ready in September. How much would it cost for that setup? I really want the best top Speed as I can get and I will have 6 people minimum on the boat at all times. It will have 90hp

[@Simonvawt]

Hi Chad, I don’t work for Hydrofin but, I can provide a rough estimate for you. A 20’ pontoon with a 90hp engine could see 19 to 20 mph depending on your setup. With the Hydrofin system installed you could see 28 to 29 mph. Again, this just a rough estimate. Your boat will also handle and ride much better. I encourage you to call or email Jason. I’ve talked to him personally and he’s a really great guy. His team has also made several other videos that cover a lot of details and customer reviews and testimonials. Hope this helps.

[@hydrofin]

Hey Chad, we have installed our system on several Sun Trackers and have seen great results every time! Reach out to us to learn more about how it will perform with your boat specifically and we can also discuss price.

[@yowsa52]

@@Simonvawt All I get is 20mph with a Yammie 90 and 21' part craft. Be nice to see higher 20's

[@alext4124]

Hey Chad, I am in the same "boat" as you with the prospect of a 20' PB with that many people as a minimum. How does your boat do loaded with that many people and gear? These hydrofoils seems to help, but I am not sure if I'd "need" one or not

[@craigs1266]

​@@SimonvawtMy 28 ft Commodore with 90HP Mercury (4blade prop) will do 19/20 mph with 3 adults.

[@howardbeetz1886]

How they do around stumps?

[@hydrofin]

Hey Howard, our wings are designed to withstand a fairly substantial impact. The system is designed with fail points, so if you did hit something hard enough to break off the wings no damage would be done to the boat.

[@howardbeetz1886]

Ok thanks. Would be on Toledo Bend and its a land mine of stumps

[@hydrofin]

Also keep in mind the tips of the wings will only be 2-4 inches below the hull. Your outboard will be much lower than our system. If you can keep your motor safe our system should stay safe too. I know this can be a challenge at times!

[@JohnBraman413]

where do you get this at? how much is it?

[@hydrofin]

Shophydrofin.com or $200 off on Amazon right now for a limited time

[@hoytoy100]

Good. Now does the product improve the performance of the boat? Faster? More economical? Safer? Better for towing sports? Why would I want this product?

[@j_rainsgoat3929]

Obviously planning out the boat would help fuel, speed etc.

[@locomojoboy2]

I literally thought that was Jar Jar Binx in the bottom thumbnail....

[@Charliefox71]

Dude, I see it!

[@craigsmithx]

How does the boat turn?

[@hydrofin]

Amazing. The hydrofoils are installed in a “V” shape which makes the boat lean into the turns. We just posted another video on KZbin that shows a boat carving turns. Hope this helps

[@craigsmithx]

@@hydrofin Thank you for the reply!

[@JKCrane]

$2500?

[@evo9860]

Hit the first stick floating just below the surface and I bet your investment is destroyed. Love the concept though👍🏼

[@hydrofin]

Our system is designed to withstand a fairly substantial impact. Also your outboard motor will be much deeper than our wings, so if you can keep your motor safe you won't have to worry about Hydrofin.

[@jamescraig8601]

My main question is. Why don't you tel😂us what this costs? Is so expensive you know most people won't buy it?

[@danielburris4096]

How about the difference in speed.

[@hydrofin]

This particular boat went from 19mph up to 25mph. The boat was propped wrong and only getting around 5100rpms, so hopefully he will get that figured out and add even more speed!

[@WD-yx4fd]

Not sure why you weren't trimmed up on the first video to show the actually difference at speed. May just be that its a 60hp....dead

[@dandixon4034]

It would be nice to actually have some statistics to compare before and after oh, and why don't you include the cost most of the time when people don't include the cost it's because they want too much for what they have

[@Simonvawt]

Hi Dan, If you visit the channel and watch some of the other videos, Jason provides loads of statistics on fuel savings and speed improvement. He also has buyer reviews and testimonials. The system is a little over $4K with installation and it takes 7 to 8 hours to install. I think one point that Jason may not stress enough is the handling. Based on the testimonials, this makes a pontoon handle like a tritoon without the added weight and less cost. I have a pontoon that is maxed out at 115 on rated HP. My boat tops out at 25 mph with just me and a full tank on board. (When) I get Jason’s hydrofin system installed, I will be able to hit 35 mph. I hope this helps.

[@hydrofin]

Hey Dan, to add on to what Simon stated. We do have several other videos we hope you check out. Also price has gone down a bit and you will be able to get this installed under $4k. We are in the process of updating our website and will have more price info. available soon!

[@joshuabrezinka9615]

@@hydrofin can you do the same comparison, but have 8-10 people in the pontoon?

[@stevenelenz4599]

Try loading it on a trailer

[@hydrofin]

Check out our website to see pictures of a boat with our system sitting on a trailer. With simple modifications trailering is not a problem. shophydrofin.com

[@dave0366]

For what it cost and just as much to install....I'll just go buy a faster boat!!!!!!!

[@slabbusterrtr7690]

Pontoons aint made to go fast even though now days they putting 2 and 300horse motors on them it dont look right

[@bpdubb]

Only 15,000 cheap dollars!! Buy it now!

[@hydrofin]

Not sure where you got this price from... You can have Hydrofin installed under $4,000!

[@kathrynvoorhies3303]

@@hydrofin I can add a 3/4 length OEM toon with built in strakes for less. I'd have more weight carrying capabilities too.

[@ezzymo1]

IF NOT A SCAM BRING THEM TO LAKE OF THE OZARKS I WILL INSTALL THEM ON A PONTOON SAME DAY...BUT YOU WONT

[@hydrofin]

If you wish to purchase our system we will gladly come to the Lake of the Ozarks to assist with your install.

[@chuckfowler8875]

That outboard is to small for that boat unless your and 80 year old couple.

[@hydrofin]

We don't pick the customer's boat. We just help them go faster!

[@454MCM]

I can’t believe a 2021 Suntracker uses a wood floor. No aluminum sheet to separate it from the water. 👎🏼👎🏼

[@dave0366]

All cheap pontoons have exposed marine grade plywood on the bottom. I have a 1996 Lowe and the wood underneath still looks new.

[@northarkboers]

My 21ft Suntracker Fishin Barge has aluminum floors. They went to AL and changed back to marine grade plywood to keep it quieter I was told. Glad mine is Aluminum

[@NATJWIL27]

@@northarkboers I had both wood and alum. aluminum is a lot noisier.and the wood deck doesn't flex as much. both are good.

[@frankshanks9726]

It’s still a lame pontoon even with hydrofoils.

[@NATJWIL27]

not lame just inexpensive.