BEFORE You Pull On Ellen W-Engine Banner! Ellen Joe Build Optimize!

[@CyanTril-Zenless]

UPDATE: They made her W-Engine even STRONGER than the one in the closed beta by giving it a second stack of critical rate boost from basic attacks. This furthers the gap even more from Cannon Rotor not to mention other options. Since they made some changes I will let you know which options to go for once we get all details on W-engines hopefully they buff a lot of the free to play ones since they are ASS at the moment. Link to update x.com/zzz_en/status/1807270359902875878?s=46&t=3gNcUKww2o_hNG1nvV9CCA

[@carlosx8603]

The beta Ellen WE(based on the image in the vid) gives the same total Crit Rate as the new one they posted it just got spread differently. Beta has 24+20, but the new one has 24+10+10 so they both total 44%

[@Tsukuruya]

Issue with waiting for Miyabi's W-Engine is that we don't know if Miyabi's role is Attack. She hasn't been in any recent CBT for a long time and nothing states she couldn't possibly switched to Anomaly or Stun if anything.

[@HomieFran]

Similar to how ayaka was with genshin impact when that first launched everyone coped and waited and she ended up releasing in 2.0

[@walnutlover6510]

I heard Miyabi is an Anomaly.

[@DDeathTheKid]

bro i don't care as a vergil main i know the patience we need so im ready to save up o already have op boi Van Lycoan plus in Cbt miyabi was a Ice Attacker and she was perfect like that so highly she stays as that

[@Frostborne2778]

Miyabi was ATK in CB1, and she looks like an attack. If you see a girl Vergil hundreds of etherials in less than a second, that screams “DAMAGE CHARACTER” more than anything else.

[@DDeathTheKid]

@@Frostborne2778 you got it wrong not girl vergil his secret daughter if you get the meme

[@andreesprz1316]

I’ll pull based on what 5 star character I get from the beginner banner so if I get lycaon I will be going for Ellen and her weapon

[@Nikorasu737]

My plan as well!

[@yukikitsune121]

That's the plan😁

[@DDeathTheKid]

you can wait for miyabi she was a ice attacker in cbt and she can solo easily

[@revitz2908]

When I played Genshin back in the day I always maxed constellations. Started playing HSR and only pulled a 1 copy of the character and their equipment. Never felt like anything else was needed. Love these videos though. Should definitely do this for every character.

[@CyanTril-Zenless]

That was a mistake I also made! I felt it took away the fun of the gameplay for most of the game since you kinda just breeze through it. And ever since I stopped nothing has really changed I still breeze through it more or less just with a bit more thought when it comes to building teams. Which makes the experience more enjoyable for me at least and I don’t spend any money at all outside of battle pass and monthly pass. But there are times when the change is so strong on an early dupe that it makes it worth it which hopefully videos like this help.

[@deathn0te541]

Since engine doesn't have a special motion effect or skills, ai would rather save my currency only for summoning units so i can try more gamplay options

[@josephorelien3192]

Her name is Joe, yes you pull on a joe

[@foxyrouge8775]

Dude that W-engine is devious looking😭😭 It creeps me out for some reason😔

[@walnutlover6510]

Let me confirm this. We do not have 50/50 system in the weapon banner and in the worst-case scenario, we spend 80 pulls for the desired limited weapon?

[@Egalia_1]

W engines are a 75/25 chance to get the one on the banner, but like characters the next 5 star you pull *will* be guaranteed to be the banner engine

[@walnutlover6510]

@@Egalia_1 Thx i didn't know about this 75/25 chance. My luck was bad recently so I have to think again.

[@t11fa25]

​@@Egalia_1 so if i didnt get the featured w engine ill get it in the next 5 star? is it like hsr lightcone banner?

[@KudosForYou]

​@@t11fa25 yes

[@OHershelWalkerO]

Didn't pull her W e but say if the banner goes away and the next new W engine banner comes on will I still get her engine in the next banner or it has to be this banner

[@DDeathTheKid]

I am True and Loyal to Mama Ice Queen Miyabi Aka Vergils Daughter Vergil how many kids do you have? Vergil Yes Im Motivated now

[@futurewarriorhero123]

I thought another good w-engine for ellen that's more accessible would be the starlight engine. thoughts?

[@neko9KO]

Great video guide! Keep up the good work for more zzz content

[@kanna2746]

I think getting it is worth because it’ll be good for Ellen but any other ice dps it is literally a stack stick high atk ice dmg with crit on top of crit

[@Egalia_1]

Usually characters don't need their tailored weapon till you get to min maxxing territory but even getting an array of general use or decent ones will be great for your account. I myself will pull for both Ellen and her W drives and use whatever I get to clear content (also can use her W drive for Ver- I mean Miyabi)

[@CyanTril-Zenless]

I agree but this gap is pretty bad right now because a lot of W-engine are already tailor made even for 4* characters which makes this a bit harder. We have a lot of content coming up so hopefully they added more F2P options that provide good main stat's and passives

[@999satyam]

A quick "Everything you need to know about ZZZ" video would be nice. Like for someone who has no idea about what the game is, what gacha games are etc. Talking about the pity system, weapon & combat system etc. Talking about the characters and lore, gameplay loops, all in one quick video.

[@CyanTril-Zenless]

Ah I see so like a brand new beginner video. I can see if I can make one but I already have videos lined up for this week so it would be too late if I was to post it probably. There might be some other creators who made a video on this topic thought so if I see anything I will come back here.

[@kilo4139]

Good video, thanks for the tips

[@moviescores9315]

Wait so it's not 50-50 anymore like other hoyoverse games??

[@CyanTril-Zenless]

No it hasn’t been for their weapons since honkai star rail

[@leedevee]

Nice overview. But isn’t Cannon Rotor a Battle Pass exclusive W-Engine? Or maybe I’m mistaken…

[@Leo-kc2kp]

nah you're right it's a battle pass weapon, which is sad coz it's the best a rank weapon for attacker

[@luanrigaud8854]

@@Leo-kc2kp soo that recommendation is kinda bad, idk if we have other options tho

[@Leo-kc2kp]

@@luanrigaud8854 check out prydwen, they have every weapons from cbt 3, if i had to say, i would say that "housekeeper" is the best f2p weapon for ellen, it gives 40% crit damage and energy regen, it also gives physical dmg but Ellen doesnt give a shit about that tho (but yea her sig weapon is miles ahead f2p options)

[@CyanTril-Zenless]

Yes that’s why I mentioned it’s a huge gap between other options!

[@TaviiCatniss]

Pretty much, IF you're going for the BP you can save yourself 70ish pulls

[@TheVoyagers.]

How about bangboo

[@allydelmarklabrador8938]

Thanks ❤

[@TaviiCatniss]

Can yoy please talk about the craftable W's

[@CyanTril-Zenless]

Okay that video should be coming out in the near future!

[@lxnky-]

Is Miyabi a S rank? Was she not a A rank in CBT or am I misraken? Or is this game different where the A classes have their own weapons? I am not too familiar with this game's system I apologise