Before You Use The Passion Translation Watch THIS

[@karenjantzi7662]

Revelation tells us cursed is anyone who adds or takes away from the Word. Use your discernment, Family of God. Thank you for this word. ❤️

[@forexchic]

Omg I'm soooo bored. Facts first before your drama

[@andrewrollout1657]

@@forexchic Troll alert.

[@lishayost44]

Revelation tells us (paraphrasing) "Do not add or take away from this book" meaning the book of Revelation. Of course you could assume that it would probably not be good to add or take away from any of the books of the bible... However, more than anything, it is best not to change the actual meaning of the words in the bible. However, lots of passages in the bible are interpreted in many different ways, and oftentimes passages have more than one meaning behind it. So alas, I guess we'll see in the end what God thinks about everything ;)

[@cottontop33]

@@forexchic Already cursing God's name, saying his name in vain? "OMG"? Read Revelation 22:19 "And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book."

[@pennymchugh3146]

"Tears streamed down Jesus' face," took the passion right out of "Jesus wept" because the subject changed from Jesus to tears.

[@darthnocturnis3941]

My senior pastor used the Passion translation for a little while. He enjoyed the language and he leans charismatic himself. However, as he read it, he did start to see the strange disconnections. At about the same time, I presented him with what I had learned about the translation from you, Pastor Mike, and he very readily put it down. What you were talking about regarding the label "translation" and the immediate assumption we have about translations being put forward by a team of people is absolutely true. And language like this really appeals to people who lean more charismatic; though I would hope and pray that those who have a good understanding of the Bible will see the deception before too much damage is done.

[@kedb621]

I can’t speak to the Greek New Testament, but as a Hebrew speaker (and reader) the first time someone mentioned this translation I opened it up to Ps. 1 and literally the first verse i was like “this is the worse translation I have ever seen” the absolute ignorance in the translation and additions to it were astounding

[@angiewoodward4166]

Wow! That is important insight! Thanks for letting us know:)

[@joanizavalani]

As a native greek speaker, I was curious enough to see how they translated the Gospel of John and they butchered one of the most important chapters of Christian theology (John 1). Translating λόγος as 'The Living Expression' is crazy. Also, in Revelation they changed Alpha and Omega to Alef and Tav. They are really holding tight to the belief that the NT was not written in greek. Scary to see how people are accepting this so-called translation.

[@christiansRstr8]

The Youth Pastor at my church (who i am good friends with) used a verse from the Passion translation in a talk he gave. This lead me here. He is an honest guy who just liked the way the passion translation sounded and thought it would be good for middle school kids. I will now be sharing this with him. thank you so much for the work you put into this video.

[@jevenator]

How’d it work out?

[@jedmusic5241]

What happened next?

[@prico3358]

What did he say?

[@Haggai2.9]

Did he welcome you sharing? 🤔🤗

[@davvvis9296]

the lead pastor of my church used TPT so I shared this video with the campus pastor at my church. his response was "ur right it should be used as a paraphrase instead of an actual translation" but then one of the other pastors used it again later. I shared it in a group message with a men's group I'm part of and everyone just ignored it like they didn't want to start anything . frustrating that people don't take this seriously because they don't want to stir the pot.

[@basicforge]

When I hear people say things like, "I really like the way this verse reads in translation [pick your favorite]." I cannot help but think, does God like the way it reads?

[@mattcarney9946]

God's Word also specifically states in Galations 1:8: "But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed." NKJV

[@MicahMarieDowning]

@@mattcarney9946 I’m interested in how this “translates” in the passion version.

[@imamjimjamlawrence]

I bought a harmonized Gospel book, from a discount store. I started to read it and immediately thought it was worded a bit oddly. Wouldn't you know it's the passion translation. Now I'm here. Stay sober and vigilant, brothers and sisters. Peace be with you all

[@lindadechow3703]

Initially, I was also very seduced by the Passion Translation. I researched, only superficially, Brian Simmons, and was misled by his claims of authenticity. I will say this, although I like to think of myself as a completely logical thinking person, when I received the Passion Translation, it felt really odd to me, I can't really explain it. I packed it up, shipped it back and kind of felt a relief when it was gone. Having spent these past few years as a reborn Christian, and studying every single day-only the approved translations, I think I have perhaps developed a discernment. That is amazing to me. The Lord by his Holy Spirit really does guide me, even when I don't expect it. Thank you for your continued enlightenment, Pastor Mike. I really appreciate it

[@Leese1801]

TPT was given to me from a friend. I was so touched by the sentiment, but after reading the KJV and NIV there was something that just didn’t sit right with this “ translation”. I would cross reference the verses and I too felt the Holy Spirit was telling me to Put it down and stop reading.

[@maxbolser8496]

I felt this exact same thing! Always felt weird in my spirit about it, never knew why.

[@virginiaposthumus3741]

I agree with what you say Amen.💕🙏💕

[@ronnieoverby]

It's been marvelous to me how many books I've owned or had access to, wanted to read but was _prevented_ from reading them, later finding out that they would have been damaging for me to learn from.

[@not_milk]

@@ronnieoverby that's a great reason to stick to writings that have stood the test of time! Obviously the Bible, but if you're going to read outside of that, sticking to established believers from history can really help. Reading all the way back to the earliest Christians can also give a lot of insight into how the church has developed over time and either done better or strayed from the truth in different areas. Scripture is the only writing that won't fail though!

[@garfd2]

🛑 Wait, the publishing house is called BroadStreet?? Like, Broad-is-the-Street that leads to destruction? That's a whole red flag right there in plain sight! 😅

[@angaur410]

LoL, yeah👍

[@nonplayablecharacter4815]

Garfield Davidson 🤣🤣🤣

[@ravissary79]

Ouch.

[@closerthanabrother9703]

Haha, I thought the SAME THING when I heard that

[@patriciamccool5243]

I thought the EXACT same thing when I heard it. I mean what “Christian” organization names themselves “Broadstreet”?? Prayerfully it’s because their offices are located on a road called Broad Street somewhere. 😳😳

[@dinahmonahan7161]

I received a Passion Bible as a gift and the giver said that Simmons had spoken at her church and he presented his translation as the most accurate and inspired. As I was reading it I came across the words that man is created a little lower than God. I knew that was NOT in scripture and went to a credible translation to verify the verse. That was enough for me.

[@Lisa-my-friend]

I don't believe in the Passion Translation either, but you're talking about Psalm 8:5. In that verse the literal Translation is that man is "created a little lower than Elohim." The Strong's Concordance definition of the word Elohim is: Strong's Definition: Plural of H433; gods in the ordinary sense; but specifically used (in the plural {thus} especially with the article) of the supreme God; occasionally applied by way of deference to magistrates; and sometimes as a superlative: - {angels} X {exceeding} God (gods) ({-dess} {-ly}) X (very) {great} {judges} X mighty. Brown-Driver-Briggs' Definition: (plural) rulers, judges divine ones angels gods (plural intensive - singular meaning) god, goddess godlike one works or special possessions of God the (true) God God

[@JC-li8kk]

That is not completely inaccurate. You can easily make the case that “God” here is actually more accurate than some translations that read “Angels.”

[@Uncledl]

Hebrews 2:7-9 New King James Version 7 You have made him [a]a little lower than the angels; You have crowned him with glory and honor, [b]And set him over the works of Your hands. 8 You have put all things in subjection under his feet.”

[@gagbagtoboyz]

Wrong is wrong. And the tpt translation is wrong.

[@jaden_skywalker]

@@Uncledl That's specifically refering to Jesus tho right?

[@lesliehunter1340]

Melissa, you said this is a "channeled" translation, and that's exactly what this is. Before I became a Christian, I was into New Age teachings. I am now sensitive to the language of the New Age and this absolutely smacks of it. This passion angel is demonic to be sure!

[@emf49]

I also was into New Age and because of that, I am greatly troubled by the many ways in which it has infiltrated the church. Unfortunately, so few seem to notice.

[@nikao7751]

@@emf49 ii think it's more thatt people don't care than notice.

[@larrywaddell7332]

@@emf49 To many folks indoctrinated by Oprah

[@LoveYourNeighbour.]

@@emf49 "So few" actually do the WORK of educating themselves, about Christian literature. We should all TEST the material out there, that's being marketed for Christian consumption. 23 Minutes In Hell, and many other books like it, have SOLD lots, in the Christian community, but have done LITTLE to sharpen our much needed discernment!

[@LoveYourNeighbour.]

@@nikao7751 Unfortunately, people often assume if it claims to be 'Christian,' then it's GOT to be! We need to take MORE SERIOUSLY the scriptural references about deception infiltrating the Christian community. It's not only 'OUT THERE.' It's sometimes within our own churches TOO!

[@Quarton]

"I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you to live in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel- 7 which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God’s curse! 9 As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let them be under God’s curse!" ~ Galatians 1:6-9 (NIV) Enough said.

[@Imjustsayin99]

Roger Quarton We need to see what the Passion version says about this passage!

[@AFrayedKnotCrochet]

The NIV leaves out 16 scriptures, which inevitably changes the gospel... stick to KJV if you want the true gospel... GBY

[@Imjustsayin99]

@@AFrayedKnotCrochet If it has anything to do with working for my salvation, I'm in! I love to work.

[@lisafosse5044]

@@AFrayedKnotCrochet Yes, the King James bible is incorruptible and forever settled in heaven. Always be leary of someone who says you must have intimacy with God. That word is not in the King James bible. Intimacy is between a husband and wife. We love God with a pure love. Keep standing sister.

[@brando3342]

Amythyst 7 Which 16 scriptures?

[@jasonfischer1315]

I am an AG Pastor in Iowa and I will be addressing those who use dreams to prop themselves up and preach another gospel (Preaching through Jude). I will be using TPT as an example. Thank you for this video.

[@michaelschuster4407]

Hey, I am a congregant of an AG church in Iowa, do you think this is spreading throughout the AG? I fear it might be.

[@emmystump9163]

@@michaelschuster4407 I believe it is. Attended an AG for 20 years.

[@1954mill]

We’ve been visiting an AG church and their pastor is utilizing this book and we’re about to leave because if AG is using this widespread as you suggest, there’s not really any point for us to bring this conversation up with the pastor. We’re retired Church of God (Cleveland) ministers ourselves.

[@Stevensonbenson]

“Oh we’re just so spiritual we don’t need education and knowledge an understanding of anything, the Holy Spirit will tell us everything”

[@soldierofchrist4ever]

Sadly, this or some variation thereof is exactly the mindset that many develop.I pray that all of us would just stop taking for granted things like a sound mind, or worse still, instead of giving thanks to God just being lazy in our studies and letting such a blessing go to waste. May we hear the exhortation of the Apostle: "Therefore I urge you, brethren, by the mercies of God, to present your bodies a living and holy sacrifice, acceptable to God, which is your spiritual service of worship." (Romans. 12:1) † NASB † Soli Deo Gloria!

[@HH-lr2zt]

Why does The Passion translation sound like a high schooler trying to make his creative writing project long enough to meet his teacher's requirements?

[@JayyVee41]

😂😂😂 so true

[@solitarypawn5076]

You have faulty thinking.

[@GH-el9ch]

I see nothing wrong with it we are to be passionate about the Lord , its a good thing. I haven't looked at much of the verses in the Passion Bible yet but the one I did check looked fine...similar to the Amplifies Bible.

[@chrissysconvos]

🤭

[@melindamercier6811]

G H if you see nothing wrong with the changes shown in this video, you may need to consider whether or not you truly understand the context of what you’re reading. It’s completely different in many ways, but of course most things will sound “similar”, otherwise it’d be easily seen for the deception it is.

[@nocoincidencesm1660]

"But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God's curse!" Galatians 1:8 This is the same very old satanic tactic we were warned about many times that seems to work with too many. Same thing as Mormonism (Book of Mormon) after an "angel" told someone he had new, illuminating words from God; Islam - an "angel" told him of new, illuminating words from God (Koran). The ones who don't have some angel telling them something, just cleverly "mistranslate" some things, as in the New World Translation. If you're satan, these should all be expected and not surprised. Looks like this type of thing will probably increase as satan knows "his times is short" and yes, we need all the "truth tellers" as we can get. Prayers and support for Mike and all who have him on their channels!

[@ingela_injeela]

"Jesus Calling" also new information from "Jesus" supposedly.

[@zachstachey9207]

I’m a pastor and I say THANK YOU!!!! I love the truth. I’ve had people sending me scriptures in this bible and the Holy Spirit wouldn’t even allow me to hardly read it much less read it with the Spirit of God in mind. This is dangerous for the children of God. Reminds me of the Joseph smith vision

[@petronellajonker8493]

How many times us the bibel changed by translation? By using other words that was in the Origenal bible, and that is giving another meaning to the verse? U really dont no what u talking about, i can show u lots of places in the bible that was changed by translation, and lits that was simply leaving out of the bible, i do think the time if traditional scary religion is gone, GOd is ONLY LOVE, so please dont misled the people from the truth

[@petronellajonker8493]

The truth will no longer be kept secret by some churches

[@SusanRichardsDay]

@@petronellajonker8493 God is also a great Judge and will bring true justice soon .

[@petronellajonker8493]

I can just wonder what u have to say of so many translations taking and putting things in the bible, so really, can u speak about the passion translation? The word tell u to test the spirit, even if i read one of rhe normal translations i go back in history to see whats the truth, shall i give u only 2 examples? Then u can go and research for yourself, specailly if u a paster u should no this, i do believe in the Spirit, holy ghost, and the father, i dont believe they one, like the churches say, no where in the origanal bible stand they one, people said they one, and they put it in the bible, go back in history yourself, how sad, couse the bible clearly specifi they 3, another one is babtise, if u go back in history u will c thet catholic churhes started to babtise babys, no where in the bible stands babys must be babtise, just a thought for the day💕, oh ja, and to the one that thinks Jesus is coming soon, u still giing to wait very long my dear, but how a about a relation ship with God, a personal one, threw Jesus your savior, for your end can come tomorrow, humans must stop judging others, i do like the passion translation

[@DrDoerk]

​@@petronellajonker8493 God is most definitely not only love

[@sherrylhenning5630]

THANKS, MIKE!!!!! I visited a local church that uses The Passion. I was using my trusty little NIV. The Passion wasn't even close to what my NIV said. Even The NLT, even though it loses a lot of umph, because the language has been simplified, still matches my NIV. I'm all for "the Bible that you're willing to read, is the right one," and not brand loyal. I warn people against The Passion. Every time I come across quotes/readings from The Passion, I find more gross errors, not just rewordings. I know a couple of people who follow your channel that have a lot of influence. Thanks for keeping this scholarly. Hopefully they will listen. I'm minimally educated so I don't blame them for not listening to me. Its been really sad to watch them get sucked in by the teachings that are in The Passion. Thanks again for doing this video! HUGZ & PRAYERS!!!!!!!

[@janadoak6720]

It isn't a lack of your formal education, it's THEIR blindness. They won't listen to me either, and I have formal education. BTW, it looks to me like you ARE educated. Your paragraph was cohesive and well written. Not all education comes from the classroom. Many of our founding fathers (US) were home schooled. I have met many folks who never went to college and were well read and brilliant. If you are not there, you are well on your way. And you have a lot of wisdom too.

[@sherrylhenning5630]

@@janadoak6720 Hi Jana! Thanks! Yes, the school of hard knocks and a love of reading makes for a fabulous education. The wisdom comes from God, reading His Word, and an interesting, colorful life. I'm 58, which also helps! (chuckle, chuckle..) Ah yes, The Good Ole' Boys Club, although not as active and set in their ways as they used to be, they still have a ways to go before they fully accept women are their intellectual equals. To their credit, they have come a long ways in a very short time, bless their hearts! They're doing their best, and doing a pretty good job of it too! They only have to be about 5 years older than me to have been raised with the idea that women have fluff for brains. A major societal change takes time. Thanks for your encouraging words! HUGZZ!!!!

[@janadoak6720]

@@sherrylhenning5630 I thought so. I'll see you in heaven if not sooner. Hugs back to you.

[@JC-li8kk]

I’ve heard bad things about NIV too, but haven’t done a deep dive into it to see if the claims are valid. More appalling than any translation I’ve read is how certain leaders in the church have decided to interpret them, or should I say, misinterpret them.

[@WonbyGrace2]

I about wore out my NIV when I learned who did the NIV and those two men do not even claim for it to be a translation so beware. We moved to kjv

[@highlightning6693]

At 3:18, it seems clear that Brian doesn't understand where we get the word "passion" from. It comes from the Latin "pati", which is to "suffer" or "endure". Therefore, "The Passion" of the Christ literally means "the suffering/enduring of the Christ". Not "the great euphoric emotion of Jesus from the heavenly realm of joy". This only goes to further prove the NAR movement's obsession with emotion, particularly euphoric emotion. Edited for typo.

[@lysamyles2024]

As a truth seeker, this was very insightful in order to equip myself on how to discern false teachings. Especially with the times we are in now. Thank you so much.💜✌🏾💜

[@Yesica1993]

One translator, some angel named "Passion" and added stuff - good grief! Why is ANYONE giving this any attention?! How did this thing even get published? The fact that anyone who calls themselves a Christian would accept such a thing is mind boggling. Doesn't anyone have basic discernment anymore?!

[@1kings18apologetics6]

God sovereignly decreed the creation of aberrant Scripture so that Christians would know how Jews feel.

[@larrywaddell7332]

@@1kings18apologetics6 I didn't know Jews are Calvinists. Unfortunately, you won't find too many Calvinists on this channel.

[@melissayoung4776]

The obvious answer would be "No." Spiritual discernment comes through the Holy Spirit through seeking Yahweh 's Holy Scriptures, because the Holy Spirit will not contradict the Word-Our Lord Jesus who became flesh, but testify of Him! These false prophets and false teachers are the very ones God speaks of in Jeremiah: "Thus says the Lord of hosts: “Do not listen to the words of the prophets who prophesy to you. They make you worthless; They speak a vision of their own heart, Not from the mouth of the Lord . They continually say to those who despise Me, ‘The Lord has said, “You shall have peace” ’; And to everyone who walks according to the dictates of his own heart, they say, ‘No evil shall come upon you.’ ” Jeremiah 23:16‭-‬17 NKJV

[@TMcConnaughhay]

I just ran across a post on fb from someone I always thought was a strong Christian who is now quoting verses from this translation :-(

[@dondayton5452]

@Clouseauish Curious as to why you think "Jesus Calling" is blasphemous? I find it to be a good daily devotional.

[@b2manufacturing]

Jesus wept seems more passionate than “tears streamed down his face” “wept” Is more than simple tears, the word wept carries more than what you can see, it carries more emotion. Plus if you translate the “tears” version into other languages it could be misrepresented as something got caught in his eye and it began to water, so this translation is playing with fire

[@JC-li8kk]

That’s the problem with doing a new translation. You start changing things just for the sake of changing things. In order for the reader to feel they are reading something new or “getting their money’s worth” you really don’t have a choice. So now you are not trying to be accurate, but trying not to disappoint the audience. If your translation is identical to others then really what was the point? It sounds like anyone who would take on such a task is hungry for some sort of human recognition & finding a grand purpose in life. The Bible has basically been translated as much as it can possibly be translated without losing integrity of the original text. If you want to add commentary that would make more sense & be less dangerous because you aren’t declaring your words to be the infallible words of God. I would be much too terrified to do my own translation. The risk far outweighs the reward.

[@xTwilightWolvesx]

@@JC-li8kk It depends on the intention of the translation. The original languages are difficult to translate into English, so often a choice has to be made. You either take each word in its most literal form, or you take the whole verse and phrase it in a way that the reader will understand what the original intention of the verse was. Various translations do a bit of both to different degrees. Bibles like the NASB add footnotes for alternative translations so you can make up your own mind on what the passage means. If you’re worried that you aren’t getting the real truth of God’s Word, try learning Hebrew, Greek and Aramaic, and study from the manuscripts yourself. It’s time-consuming, but it’s the only way you’re going to get the complete truth out of God’s Word.

[@kathyh.1720]

At around 29 minutes in, mention is made of Mr. Simmons' background with Ethnos 360 (formerly New Tribes Mission). However, what he did was just a basic analysis of the linguistics of the language, and I mean BASIC linguistic analysis: trying to figure out the phonology and the morphology and the syntax of the language. This is NOT in ANY WAY Bible translation! Not even close. Not even close. (Yes, I said that twice.) (My credentials? M.A. and Ph.D. in linguistics, and having taught a few summers for SIL International, sister organization of Wycliffe Bible Translators.)

[@sirstan808]

Loved your emphasis, Kathy, Loved it!

[@JewandGreek]

Do you know Brian Simmons and did you work with him in Panama?

[@Scripture-Man]

Great comment! :-)

[@prico3358]

Not even close? Did she say that? Are you sure?

[@khaccanhle1930]

I know plenty of people from Ethnos, NTM. It is a very conservative organization, they believe that tongues have ceased. They are almost anti Charismatic.

[@brunoversacirealtor]

"New Information?" When it comes to the Bible, if it "new," it cannot be true because if it is True, it cannot be "new.". You're welcome Brian.

[@jac4YouTube]

This reminds me of 2 Timothy 4:3,4......"for the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths." From the ESV

[@evelynfrederick]

I really appreciate the ground work you did with this. You've always had a sound perspective. I experienced a spiritual breakthrough after the truth of this video settled into my heart. Thank you!

[@rebajohnson8035]

In the Bible God told us not to add or take away from his word. I think this perfectly sums up everything that you guys are talking about in this video.

[@generallyawkward8947]

THANK YOU! I didn't like the Passion Translation and felt like it was sketchy but I haven't researched it yet and this has helped seal the deal of not trusting it

[@visionvixxen]

So sketchy. It’s craaaazy! I ve never thought about how different translations could be , but I read this and literally wondered what it was😂

[@trishwragg788]

As soon as I hear an angel inspired, my alert buttons are triggered

[@visionvixxen]

Yep -sounds like Mormonism, JW and Islam..

[@matthewcooper4248]

Never heard of this translation so I'm glad you're bringing this up.

[@Alec_Cox]

@@BloodBoughtMinistries Great take! I agree with your post 100% Its pure Garbage. It actually inhibits a person from reading all 66 of the books that make up the Bible, which means library and short for Bibliography.

[@Alec_Cox]

Don't bother with it. Stick with KJV or KJ21 (21st century King James Version) if you hath troubles with Thou and Ye being used. They are the only ones that correctly do not leave out or change the contextual meaning.

[@sven179]

@@Alec_Cox Though the KJV mistranslates some references to the deity of Christ, e.g., 2 Peter 1:1.

[@matthewcooper4248]

@@sven179 2 Peter 1 King James Version (KJV) 1 Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to them that have obtained like precious faith with us through the righteousness of God and our Saviour Jesus Christ: How is this mistranslated?

[@sven179]

@@matthewcooper4248 The last clause should read "of our God and Saviour Jesus Christ." The Greek construction uses both words 'God' and 'Saviour' of Jesus, whereas the KJV seems to separate the two. The reason for this is that this grammatical construction in Greek (the Granville-Sharp construction, after the one who discovered it) hadn't been discovered yet at the time the KJV was being translated. I'm not saying this to say the KJV is bad or that you should stay away from it. It is a very good translation. What I was trying to point out is that it's not the perfect, be-all and end-all of translations, which seemed to be what Alec was getting at. Nothing like The Passion 'Translation', I'm just going against KJV-onlyism.

[@KeriHilson-gi7rt]

My grandad gifted me TPT Bible years ago, it's the first Bible Ive ever had. I finally gave my heart to the Lord 2years ago and so I've been reading it believing this was GODS word. My husband's been a Christian for a long time so I would converse with him about the things I was reading and sometimes he would tell me he didn't think I was reading it correctly or I didn't understand..... Since giving my heart to the Lord Ive been aware that false teachings are out their and I try to do research but I thought TPT would be okay because my grandad gave it to me but my heart is overwhelmed listening to this! The last thing I wanted to do was believe something that isn't true

[@karenl9408]

Good people are mezmerized by this book. Pray people!

[@sheRoyals]

I appreciate this respectful and accurate information about the Passion Translation. I just left my church over their use of this bible, connection to Bethel teachings and this whole Kingdom now theology.

[@theguerrerofamily9699]

I have a dear friend that became a woman’s pastor in her local church. They read from this Bible. She didn’t go to theology school or anything. I never knew this about the passion translation! I’m in awe realizing this.

[@tripnine7365]

“Whoever speaks on their own does so to gain personal glory, but he who seeks the glory of the one who sent him is a man of truth; there is nothing false about him.” -John 7:18 NIV I see a lot of ‘speaking on their own’ in this translation... very sad. I will not be using TPT anymore.

[@marosialvarez8918]

May God continue to raise servants like you two to alert his people on deceptive teachings, translations, and theology. Saddens my heart so many believers are either ignorant or unwilling to inform themselves about trendy 'spiritual' individuals and resources bring promoted. Unfortunately, even mature Christian's and church leaders are being caught up in the bandwagon of personal revelation teachings

[@ReasonedAnswers]

Thank you for this thorough look into the Passion "translation" - very helpful and informative. You are one of the very best Bible teachers out there and I love all the work you put out.

[@QZigZagg]

I know that there are translations that are very inaccurate and watered down. The Passion Translation surpasses all of them when it comes to inaccuracy.

[@jerardosc9534]

Que Nos More than the NWT???

[@MuMu-fu7qe]

@@jerardosc9534 Yes!

[@QZigZagg]

Jerardo SC most definitely

[@theladygunsmith]

and the Message

[@jerardosc9534]

Que Nos Cant see it worse than the NEW WORLD TRANSLATION but havnt read too much of it. May you show some examples of verses or chapters on how its worse than the NWT???

[@mitch.brendamoncrieff1957]

So blessed & so thankful for you both ! Discernment & true Biblical teaching is so important as this NAR & Bethel movement keeps spreading . We need to keep praying for God to continue to expose the false doctrines & teachers .

[@simplyme1675]

Thank you guys so much for putting this together! It has helped me and opened up my eyes! God bless all that you do. Keep preaching the real Bible

[@doughefft2642]

All the research Mike did about this is spot on. I was there in Panama as a New Tribes missionary pilot. I knew Brian and Candy. I loved and admired them, and I was devastated when they went off the theological rails and returned to the US. And Kieth and Wilma…. Fabulous, Godly people who had a great influence on me and my family in those days!

[@ClarifyingChrist]

I've never read the passion translation before...but this is definitely an informative video on the subject. Way to bring a ton of knowledge, Mike.

[@jaynaysay1273]

Wish I had known this much earlier! Can’t believe even 3 years later you version still has this translation on their app and no one has talked about this besides you it seems. Thank you Mike for caring enough to look into this!

[@melissahasart4969]

Mike, we can count on you for good research. Thank you for your work into showing the problems with the Passion translation.

[@helmuthuneke1775]

Some of those followers of Simmons are acting like sectarians, getting real angry especially when confronted with Revelation 22,18 Unmask the works of the enemy YAHUAH bless you brother

[@christinam3313]

This is very true.

[@Top-Jimmy]

Thank You for revealing this. The red flags shall fly! - May The Lord bless you in abundance. Greetings from Western Australia.

[@juliamckenzie1734]

Every time I hear these verses I'm like uh, uh no thank you, my inner alarm bells go off that this changing of scripture and it's not okay.

[@visionvixxen]

Seriously. 😂. It’s so wacky and so off that quite frankly, I’m almost more comfortable reading straight up new age than this mish mash of mixing all this and one man’s interpretation of the Bible Together

[@joshsweetdude]

I'm glad you stepped up to question all this. Good job Mike!

[@stitchmom0582]

Thank you for your diligence and obedience. God bless you, Brother!

[@rebeccadrum3137]

Thanks, I never knew. I never have, nor am I ever going to read that translation. You keep me aware.... Thank you, both of you, and God bless... VIDEOE IS SHARED...

[@Joesfosterdogs]

Translations like this display clear discernment about its users. If you are a "pastor" using this translation, well, it says everything about who you are! RUN from that church. Only those who stay are naive...but he (pastor) needs to be warned before departure...he is deceiving his flock and that alone should concern a true believer.

[@jeremiahkirkman4875]

Thank you for doing the interview/making this video. Has opened my eyes to the debate/concern over the TPT being so much more than translation vs paraphrase!

[@tnt0northtravelministriest627]

Thank you Pastor Mike, for your due diligence

[@emf49]

Thanks Mike. I just watched that interview yesterday and found it very enlightening. I have seen your other videos on this translation but in this interview you elaborate much more about Brian Simmons credentials and the sectarian view of The Passion translation. This will be very useful for the Body of Christ.

[@louonUT]

I have been warning people from day 1of hearing about the Passion Book . This show about it , is again perfect. Keep warning and educating .

[@samanthacook2688]

Thank you so much for this. Before I stopped going to the Salvation Army in Dunedin, New Zealand there was a Sunday where a Passion translation passage was used. The sermon and thus the lesson felt to me like the underlying message was "Here is the Old Scripture and let's see how these various and newer translations put it." The Passage translation appeared to be held in very high regard by the leadership and none of my acquaintances supported my view that the Passage scripture was so different to the original text that God's point, if you like, was utterly twisted if not lost altogether through the distortion of the meaning of the language. Not to mention all the extra wordage, not that that is a bad thing in itself. At the same time, for me personally there appeared to be a bright yet somehow creepy glow emanating from the Passion translation words on the paper, more so than the text from the other newer translation which was from The Message. Then the discussion was centered around which translation do we prefer rather than "What is God trying to teach us?" It's slippery and subtle and left me feeling somehow bereft. Not because no-one else agreed with me, it was just that all the different translations represent such a giant rabbit hole to fall into. To me, it's a sign of the times.

[@toomanyhobbies2011]

Many have been deluded by Satan. Mohammed, Smith, Simmons, etc.

[@denagardner8319]

Thank you so very much for all the information you share in this video. I truly learned so much . I honestly used TPT as a cross reference tool . Yet after listening to everything you two had to say . I truly believe, I will never use as a cross reference ever again. Again thank you so much

[@Seasonedwithsalt68]

Thank you for this video...I actually watched your first one and immediately after...put that book on the shelf! I will admit, I was so drawn to the book, waited patiently for it's delivery...first the size, the color, and how floppy it was...it felt so good in my hand. Then the ease of reading captured me, as well. I had no idea the story behind it until my gut began to turn into a knot, which brought me to YT for some research...which brought me to you and now, you're a daily watch in some form or fashion!

[@ingela_injeela]

Yeah, that familiar "knot in the gut". Thank God.

[@tnt0northtravelministriest627]

More people need to be aware of this, and teach to have understanding of proper methods and reasons for how Bibles should be translated and why.

[@Acadian.FrenchFry]

Wow I had heard that it had problems, but this is insane! Pure heresy! I do hope more people raise the red flags on this and warn others.

[@LoveYourNeighbour.]

I AGREE! And I appreciate your "passion!"

[@brotherandrew6227]

More great work Mr. Winger. You are serving God well. Keep up the good work. Be careful, Stana would love to take you down. Stand fast.

[@piscesrenewed479]

Btw, I didn’t realize you are in American Gospel: Christ Crucified! So cool! How did I not hear that you were in this? Anywho, so glad you were part of such a great documentary series.

[@nikao7751]

I didn't know that either. I've seen some of but now I'll definitely have to re watch. God bless

[@pateunuchity884]

Such a great movie!!! Wow, good on you Mike.

[@JewandGreek]

I guess they learned their lesson from stacking the deck with Calvinists in the first movie.

[@pateunuchity884]

@Jew and Greek Bethel is a sinking ship. It IS good to want to see tainted theology and heresies demoted and denounced. God is protecting his people with these warnings. You don’t promote this kind of teaching do you?

[@emf49]

How can I access that film? There seem to be a few versions on KZbin.

[@kcdw3495]

I really wish more people would make video's like this...

[@stevenpeach6971]

Melissa and Mike, what a good and thorough job! I am definitely passing this video on to my friends. I've seen people sharing so many quotes from this on FB. I was always suspicious of it when I first heard it, but couldn't put my finger on what was wrong. You both did a clear and articulate critique of the TPT, exposing the falsity of it. Thanks so much. God bless

[@rsilkw2]

I’m grateful for the time you took to break down the concerns with TPT and giving some context for how it came about. I watched a video from another channel asking if TPT was heresy and just left feeling like the issue at hand was never truly addressed. If this is as serious as an issue we think it is ( which I’m in that camp,) we need to really examine it.

[@chiaratiara2575]

Revelation 22:18-19 'For I testify to every man that hears the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add to these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.' The most striking thing I'm picking up, is that the 'translator' has not been straitened / disciplined by the word of God which we already have in both testaments, including Who the Holy Spirit is, and what His role is, according to Jesus, which is why the suggestion that 'Jesus' gave him new revelation is such a plausible device.

[@Petra-RockorPebble]

A lady from my prayer group send me Psalms62:5-6-7-8 and I thought it was beautiful as I-never heard of this version. I than read further in Psalms and it became obvious that this translation took liberties with the choice of words. Now this video made it clear to me to not use this translation at all. I use the NKJV.

[@subrje5546]

Wow, thank you for this. Proverbs 31:24 - סדין (sheet) עשתה (made, feminine form) ותמכור (and has/will sell/sold) וחגור (and belt/clothing) נתנה (she gave) לכנעני (to the cannanite) ESV: She makes linen garments and sells them; she delivers sashes to the merchant. KJV: She maketh fine linen, and selleth it; and delivereth girdles unto the merchant. Proverbs 31:24 NIV: She makes linen garments and sells them, and supplies the merchants with sashes. Passion "translation": "Even her works of righteousness she does for the benefit of her enemies" Seriously?? This cant even pass as a commentery!

[@Austin1990]

Interesting that no other translation mentions that the source text mentions a Cannanite. I can see where TPT is coming from, and it likely does capture the essence of what is being communicated. I have inly read Ephesians in TPT, and I thought it was a beautiful translation, albeit a very dynamic one as opposed to a literal translation. It expanded on Biblical language that I understand naturally after many years of studying the Bible, language that flies over the heads of people new to the Bible. It seems like a very good introductory translation. Greek and Hebrew words are very rich, and I get so much out of learning about the source texts, and TPT is longer as it attempts to flesh out the richness of the source text and, as I said, expand upon the language based upon other Biblical context. I have not personally found a blatant falsehood in the translation. And, I feel that dynamic translations should always be referenced with literal translations.

[@toomanyhobbies2011]

Thank you for a prime example of translation heresy.

[@toomanyhobbies2011]

@@Austin1990 You're deluded. How can you ignore the evidence from the post?

[@Austin1990]

@@toomanyhobbies2011 TPT is a very dynamic translation. I found more blatant interpretation issues in this video, blatantly misrepresenting the KJV and NIV translations. But, the commenters are just eating it up like a cult without any thinking of their own. Some of the interpretation strategies employed here would have condemned Jesus’ interpretation of the Old Testament.

[@OrangeMonkey2112]

Great video you two. This is the type of information people, especially on KZbin, need to hear. Most the KZbinrs are not highly educated on scripture and can be easily mislead. Most are new or haven’t been trained properly and the passion bible could easily sound correct. So again, thank you so much for doing this video. God bless both of you

[@lindararey8641]

I think it's important for folks to understand that The Passion Bible isn't really a translation in formal understanding. It's not something I would ever refer to. But if we're going to be honest, this "translation" isn't any worse than a lot of sermons that are preached from most pulpits every week. I'd like to see that called out as well.

[@opalstardust]

The Passion Translation starts with Psalms...like, where's the rest?? It's all relevant and the OT gives you all the history you need to understand the rest. You can't have a Bible without the OT.

[@RyanPackard]

Multiple rollouts book by book means more money for the author and publisher.

[@somethinggood9267]

This is important work you guys do, thank you. I had no idea

[@marshameyer413]

A pastor at my church (Assemblies of God) quoted a passage from the Passion Bible. I am concerned where my church is moving. My husband and I came out of a church that was following the NAR specifically Bethel and Bill Johnson so we are sensitive when we hear something like this.

[@Godsbelovedkid]

My grandma has the passion translation and then bill Johnson what’s up with them?

[@sjking1111]

Friend, please find a new congregation. Your discernment is from God that something is off.

[@Lisa-my-friend]

57:08 "If you look at how the Bible was written, it is absolutely genius how God did this because he uses dozens and dozens of authors on purpose to make a unified book. He didn't want one author to write the whole book because this would happen... If you take one author writing any spiritual book you get this bias, you get this one-person Theology. So, I think God in his wisdom had many authors to avoid this."

[@energizer7354]

😳 seeing how TPT seems to be bias to the thought of the translator cause doubt of its validity, how easy is it to apply to the rest of scripture and it’s writers. What a dangerous seed of doubt.

[@Lisa-my-friend]

@@energizer7354 The original writings were God-breathed. A valid translation expresses the meaning of the word or phrase from one language to another. The Passion Translation adds words and phrases that were never in the original writings. There's a very big difference.

[@robertdavis1836]

Ironically, "Jesus Wept" carries more passion (and depth of meaning) than the longer passion version.

[@Imjustsayin99]

It could be the same fallen angel that Joseph Smith encountered. This angel seems to pop up in history every now and then. Jesus may have directly warned Paul about this angel.

[@arthurbrugge2457]

Maybe. But it's just as likely that he is simply a false prophet, guided by his own pompous ego.

[@LoveYourNeighbour.]

@@arthurbrugge2457 My own personal first assumption was: this is simply an opportunity for financial gain, on his part. Of course, I would never be able to conclusively prove it...

[@pearladams4817]

This could also be the source of the 'Satanic Verses'.

[@TheKlh54]

Thank you so much for this video! Keep speaking out. Love you both.

[@loveistheway.2882]

I’ve been wondering about this lately!!! Thank you!

[@lynnekirkup984]

keep up the good work...we have so much feely-good-to-the-exclusion-of just plain TRUTH in God's Word today...

[@valentinogal781]

Thank you both so much for your thorough explanation on this matter. We should be very concern, and educate as many as possible on these false teachings. God Bless you both.

[@greentree730]

Thankyou!!!! Please keep being His Light!!! The truth says free...

[@ParadeTheGospel]

I like how you point out "Jesus wept" isn't truly the shortest verse in the bible ;) I actually researched that myself when we came across the other verse in 1 Thessalonians recently and got me thinking... hmmm let me compare this and Jesus wept in the greek and sure enough, the 1 Thess verse was shorter! By like one or two letters, I don't remember off hand. But I felt like I made this amazing discovery haha

[@veritatemdicam4585]

Thanks so much for this. I have a friend (attends Bethel Church) and she posts scripture using the Passion Translation frequently. Every time I read one something bugs me. I've been very skeptical of the verses she posts but I'm not skilled enough nor do I have the time to really research. So this program is so useful! Thank you~

[@judycarney42]

Thank You, truth matters! I say this because I could lose a friend or two if I enlighten them with this truth.

[@abidinginchrist3139]

Thank you Mike and Melissa for your wisdom. I had a lot of concerns about this translation when I watched your first critique. I had asked Dr. Brown what his thoughts were. I was disappointed in his lack of concern. I hope he has a chance to do more research and change his position. God Bless you both!

[@QZigZagg]

“Thou shall not add to words which I command you, nor shall you diminish from it...” Deuteronomy 4:2 This scripture by itself trashes the Passion Translation

[@alexblack6634]

I wonder how he translated this verse?

[@jennifermcculloch5324]

He hasn't gotten to exodus yet

[@Charles.Wright]

That argument doesn't really hold water. Yes, the conclusion that TPT is garbage is true, but how are we to even understand the verse you wrote without it being translated into English? There is necessarily a change - sometimes additive, sometimes subtractive - when translating.

[@magdzioczek]

Thank you so much for doing this video! Great work on this. Thankful to God we still have teachers like you pastor Mike .

[@virginiaposthumus3741]

Thank you so much for exposing error. God bless you and your ministry in Jesus Name Amen. 💕🙌💕

[@michaelturnage3395]

The King James, the CJB (the complete Jewish Bible), the Interlinear Hebrew & Greek Bible, the Aramaic Targums, and the Interpretive New Testament are the main study materials I use.

[@fairlyvague82]

Wow! I almost bought the Passion bible today online because the artwork is gorgeous and I just assumed the translation was arrived at in the usual way. This guy sounds like he’s saying the word of God isn’t quite fancy enough for him?!

[@markscott4830]

As a person of Charismatic religious background I heard his translation of the phrase Tribulation and can only describe it as butchery. What he did was to change the meaning of verses to fit his own beliefs. This is not negativity but a warning

[@soldierofchrist4ever]

So the translation isn't the only thing faulty, though it is indeed faulty, but as is the translation methodology, the single translators theology, and all the presuppositions under girding the whole thing! Got it. In all seriousness though great video brother! Soli Deo Gloria.

[@lesliebee8918]

❤️ “...in the desire to mobilize the people of God ...then good theology can be sacrificed on the altar of pep talks.”

[@enhancedcalm]

Perhaps you are wiser than I, but I don't think we need to couch our words in delicacy and niceties when it comes to this translation and author. This translation is anathema

[@TheKlh54]

I’m shocked that any pastor would even use this “bible” without researching for themselves!

[@StephenKluever]

Hey Pastor Mike. Thanks so much for your insight and willingness to bring this stuff to light. This last summer you inspired me to do my own digging into the passion translation and so glad I did. The result is around 200+ pages of notes and sources of scholars, pastors and regular people for around 25 main issues with the passion translation. I also created a shorter document around 80 pages to summarize the info. Your comparison chart was what started my interest in this subject. I made an expanded one with about 50 + words comparing the top 10 major versions, which branched into a whole bunch of other areas and issues. I came out of some major Bethel and IHOP teaching years ago so have a heart for this stuff for helping other people to see. If you ever have a bit I would love to chat with you about it. Let me know and would love to share it. I can give you some contact info or you can direct message me if you would like. I know you are a busy guy though so it's ok if you aren't able to :) God bless and keep up the good work! Thank you for your balanced approach to this sort of stuff and for keeping a good heart about it. It really shows through in your videos the care and genuine concern you have.

[@MikeWinger]

Hey Stephen, if you go to my KZbin page and click on the “about” tab, you’ll see a spot where you can send me an email. I’d be happy to hear more!

[@juliemayes2027]

Stephen Kluever would you please please make your work available to see this subject is so very very important even as a published book to buy or ebook thank you

[@philipguyott3352]

I would also love to see your notes if you were happy to publish them. Thank you

[@StephenKluever]

@@MikeWinger I just sent it over to you! Would love to hear your thoughts on them if you get some time :)

[@StephenKluever]

@@juliemayes2027 O wow thanks for the interest! I eventually do want to write an E-book about it. Once I have them more organized I would be happy to get it out to others in that format. I am starting an Apologetics website as well soon so I will have some of it on there (not trying to plug that or anything on someone else's channel haha) If there is a way to direct message me on here Julie I could try to send you some of what I have thus far.

[@stefaniecawley6810]

Ive had deep concerns of The Passion Translation and The Message

[@justinj_00]

TPT makes The Message look interlinear Eugene Peterson is very up front with the fact that The Message shouldn't be used for any legitimate study beyond casual reading and recommends a word-for-word translation to his readers of The Message I fundamentally dislike The Message and it does a TON of things that rub me the wrong way, but it doesn't even CLAIM to be a legitimate translation like TPT does

[@stefaniecawley6810]

@@justinj_00 even so hordes of Christians and Christiab leaders use it as legitimate scripture. I agree with you and even brought that to a pastor’s attention a couple years ago. She got quite defensive, rude, and it basically ended the friendship/mentorship. Was part, but not the beginning, of the end of my relationship with the church. She was reading the Message daily, staff was, and eventually many of the church members. The church haa been spiraling since. And then she (eventually they) started diving right into TPT as soon as it came out and she gets aggressive whenever anyone says she shouldnt be using that either 🤦🏻‍♀️. The whole “Im the one with the title you arent, you arent qualified to know what you’re talking about” mentality 🙄🤦🏻‍♀️🙏🏼

[@Ke-na-le-Moemedi]

@@justinj_00 The Mesaage is not even good for casual reading. It changes the very words of Jesus and downgrades God from being almighty. Eg.when Jesus taught on prayer, He said (Matthew 6:10) "Your kingdom come. Your will be done, On earth as it is in heaven." The Message says: "Do what’s best- as above, so below." That last line is from the occult. There is no way Jesus would have blurred the lines between light and darkness. The Message is not a book inspired by God. Psalm 24:1 says "The earth is the Lord’s, and all it contains..." The Message says "God claims Earth and everything in it..." Can you see how the Message downgrades God? In the Message, God claims what doesn't belong to Him. The Bible says everything belongs God. There are plenty more examples...

[@NazSBG]

I get angry when I hear Christians quoting from the message!

[@No.Good.Guy.]

Thanks guys for gathering the info for us

[@gwenmichigander277]

A while back I got a devotional that uses verses from the passion “translation”. I hadn’t used it, but just yesterday (which is when I found out it used verses from TPT), cracked it open and flipped through it and compared one the passages it used from TPT to my KJV, and I noticed the extra words. I found that quite odd. I decided to watch this video, and now I know why! I will likely get rid of the devotional, and I won’t be going anywhere NEAR the TPT.