High Temperature All Metal Bi-metal Hot End Upgrade Ender 3

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CHEP

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@bek8758
@bek8758 3 жыл бұрын
You are a life saver chep. On this summer i started printing since then you have been great tutor. Thank you so much Mr.Chep
@jjclarkson3261
@jjclarkson3261 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Chuck. You missed an important step: Reset your Z-offset (Nozzle offset from probe). Since nozzles will not always end up in the exact same position, it is a very important to prevent damage and have an accurate offset. Great video! Much more help than the Slice Engineering Q-code
@dugy40
@dugy40 2 жыл бұрын
Also run pid
@dugy40
@dugy40 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve heard you should season this. What say ye?
@andycrighto3740
@andycrighto3740 Жыл бұрын
What about e steps?
@comedyclub333
@comedyclub333 4 ай бұрын
@@andycrighto3740 Well theoretically possible the change in E steps shouldn't be that high so there's a good change you wouldn't notice it.
@melvin5312
@melvin5312 3 жыл бұрын
I have this one on my printer for about 200 hours, and its great so far. Nice to see you recommending it.
@Bellacera2010
@Bellacera2010 2 жыл бұрын
I've bought an Ender a year ago. Just few months ago I learned differences between shape, walls, density etc... You're my new Guru!
@lff12
@lff12 3 жыл бұрын
Great to see this reviewed. I liked it a lot after installation, it really improved experience with PETG, Colorfabb NGEN etc, but I struggled to get the ideal retraction. In the end e3d were doing a sale on Titan extruders, so I turned my ender max into direct drive, and changed retraction to 1mm and tuned the esteps manually. This seems to have improved things a lot - literally zero stringing, no artefacts on Benchys etc. And PETG still printing great.
@vanloggins
@vanloggins 2 жыл бұрын
I made the mistake of buying the mellow bi-metal heatbreak, their design is not great because they don't have it setup so you can easily slot your filament down into the tip of it, so it winds up jamming up whenever I try to swap out my filament on my Ender 3. The only solution that even remotely has worked for me was to take the ptfe tube out of the coupler going down into the hot end, feeding the filament through and then hitting it with a lighter to soften up the tip so I could stretch it to a fine point, which I am then able to fit down into the tube inside the heatbreak. I'm tired of following this process so I just ordered the copperhead c-e bimetal heat break based on your recommendation Chuck. Thanks for posting great informative videos to help folks out.
@funddesexgluma
@funddesexgluma 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Chuck, thanks for making this video, after watching this I concluded the heat break was a better option for me than going with an all-metal hot end. I did run into a few issues with the installation on my Ender 3 Pro, related to the heat break being longer than the stock one and pushing the nozzle lower; sharing in case others are in the same position: - The M3x16 bolts that go through the bottom of the hot block and into the heat sink are now too short - I asked Slice about this and they recommend just using the grub screw to attach the hot block to the rest of the assembly - I had to shim my CR Touch with a few washers between it and the bracket, because the nozzle was now below the probe - The part fan is now blocked by the hot block, so I quickly remixed a longer shroud to account for it; it's part - 369993 on Printables
@LargeKid
@LargeKid Жыл бұрын
What kind of washers did you use and how many? I am running into that issue now.
@rpg01x
@rpg01x 2 жыл бұрын
Let me start by saying I have been running straight Capricorn tubing and have never had a failed print due to a clogged nozzle. I thought I needed this so I bought the Slice heat break and installed it yesterday. Used my standard slicer settings in Cura and the print failed due to a clogged nozzle in about an hour. Today I changed the retraction distance and minimum extrusion distance window to 3mm. Default is 5mm. The print made it several hours but failed again due to a clogged nozzle. The Slice heat break was removed and I am back to printing with the original set up. Wished I would have read more of the reviews before I bought this. Can't wait for my Prusa MK3S+ to get here.
@FilamentFriday
@FilamentFriday 2 жыл бұрын
Did you verify the nozzle and heat break had no gap between them? That’s usually the issue.
@rpg01x
@rpg01x 2 жыл бұрын
@@FilamentFriday Yes. I heated the hot end up, cleaned out the threads by threading the nozzle and head break in and out. I made sure that the nozzle and the end of heat break had solid contact. Thanks for all of your content CHEP.
@cosmefulanito5933
@cosmefulanito5933 11 ай бұрын
@@FilamentFriday Bi metal do not work ok with PLA and bowden setups.
@rbrdly
@rbrdly 3 жыл бұрын
Shipping to Aus was far too expensive, 👎but Slice helped me find a local retailer. Good service 👍
@ShahriarFarkhan
@ShahriarFarkhan 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this! I just installed one last night and this video helped sell me on it. Your instructions helped because I couldn't find any on Slice's website, LOL I just found your video on the ABS corners. I'm about to try printing that for the first time.
@EngineeredKaos
@EngineeredKaos 3 жыл бұрын
Another mod for my Ender 3s thanks to CHEP. I added this on my Ender 3 with the BGM style direct drive and so far so good. I’ll be ordering a second one for other Ender 3, and probably convert that one to direct drive as well (I had the parts for nearly a year but have been too busy printing to stop and upgrade it). Thanks for all your great videos and profiles!
@larrychaffin1208
@larrychaffin1208 Жыл бұрын
I see no mention of retraction distance or speed with adding this new heat break. Can you please update with info on if the standard retraction 6.5mm is too much or not. Or if it need to be reduced.
@gillyboy1566
@gillyboy1566 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for more tips they are genuinely appreciated a fan from the UK
@damondarnell
@damondarnell 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Everyone Great Video CHEP I just did this upgrade on my Ender 3 Pro run my first print with the upgrade and it looking great NOTE BLTOUCH USERS RESET AND ADJUSTS YOUR Z-OFFSET that is all thanks again for the great video I will be doing with to my NON PRO Ender 3 tomorrow.
@DwellerDesert
@DwellerDesert 2 жыл бұрын
Chuck, love all your Friday episodes. After watching this one, I went ahead with a hot end upgrade. Now a couple of frustrating weeks later, I think I am about the same print quality I had with a PTFE tube to the nozzle. I've watched other all metal hot end upgrade videos. It'd be nice if anyone mentioned potential issues with all metal hot end. Like stringing, blobs, and clogs. Cause it's been a pain. My 2 cents. You can leave them on the Take a penny, Leave a penny jar.
@FilamentFriday
@FilamentFriday 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve had none of those issues. Mine printed better right from the start. Same profile.
@frits183
@frits183 2 жыл бұрын
I have the same problem! Do you have a solution 🤔
@Sambo726
@Sambo726 2 жыл бұрын
Works great. Just don't forget to adjust your retraction!!!! I was banging my head trying to figure out why I was getting stringing, clogs, and binding,. Duhhhhhh the filament is not as deep inside hot end anymore. I had to drop my retraction down to 3 from 5.5 to get it to start acting right to be able to do a heat tower then retraction tower.
@jeffaltavilla6261
@jeffaltavilla6261 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Chuck, just ordered one today from Slice Engineering
@Traderhood
@Traderhood Ай бұрын
Awesome tutorial! I just changed mine. Thanks.
@90sarcadefighter5
@90sarcadefighter5 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Chep. New to 3d printing and new to the channel which is fantastic I must add. Your descriptions and walkthroughs are perfect. I've just purchased one of these for my newly acquired CR10s pro v2, and, just now have purchased a micro Swiss nozzle to accompany it. I hope it'll be a good combo which will minimise clogs amd the such. Keep up the good work 👏
@FilamentFriday
@FilamentFriday 3 жыл бұрын
I think you’ll like the heat break. As far as the nozzle, I’m not sold on it. And I suspect you’ll have to run it hotter than brass.
@lynxxlynxx
@lynxxlynxx 2 жыл бұрын
I ordered one yesterday before watching this video. I noticed some strange stringing I never had in my past prints. I removed the fan cover and a big petg blob was all over the hotend! After removing the goo and disassembling the complete hotend, I found that the original heatbreak was cracked. Ordered a new hotend and a bi-metal heatbreak. Didn't want to go for an all metal hotend from micro swiss. The original fullfills all my needs and I think it will not give me more benefits.
@JamesThompson-xl4yu
@JamesThompson-xl4yu 4 ай бұрын
I use the same finger ratchet you use. Good info and this will also work for ender 3 v3 se.
@chadblows
@chadblows 2 жыл бұрын
I just installed this upgrade last night. With the stock heat break I was able to peak at 9.62 mm³/s flow rate and now I'm reliably at 16.84 mm³/s. The main mod I did was mounting the stock Ender 3 extruder with the SpeedDrive direct drive mount on thingiverse.
@damondarnell
@damondarnell 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Everyone Great Video CHEP I did this upgrade on my Ender 3 Pro running prints with the upgrade and they looking great NOTE BLTOUCH USERS RESET AND ADJUSTS YOUR Z-OFFSET I personally also readjusted my E-Step also again great video CHEP
@damondarnell
@damondarnell 3 жыл бұрын
​@@AkiraFurball Wow. lol Well first off I said I personally readjusted my E-Step I didn't say that it was 100% needed. I am glad that you seem to be able to use the defaults on your creality printers but with the changes I have personally made to include the one in the video I personally decided to run some calibration test after making this upgrade and came the personally decision that I needed to adjust my E-Step because I personally saw a change in how much easier and smoother the extruder was able to push the filament through after this upgrade. I would be very interested in CHEP thoughts on this.
@svdworkis
@svdworkis 2 жыл бұрын
i've had some frustration with this heatbreak clogging on my ender3. it works awesome if you make no mistakes and operate your printer flawlessly. but certain common mistakes seem to easily clog it - filament runout, or leaving the heat on for awhile after swapping filament, or leaving the heat on if you left it for a second to warm up while you do another task, or even if you leave the heat on for a bit to re-level. even with good thermal pasting and the heatbreak fan running the whole time. these are all things that happen to me at least once in awhile, and recovery is fairly laborious... a complete hotend disassembly, and possibly a ruined heatbreak. i tried clearing the clog by heating to 260 for awhile and trying to push the clog out with a 1.5mm allen key, or an accupuncture needle from the nozzle side, and it just wouldn't budge. as a last ditch i disassembled, removed the heat break, and torched it and then finally was able to remove the pla clog. heh the bimetal kinda works TOO good. i may have ruined it by torching... but so far it seems to be printing ok again. i've read about others having clogging issues with this heatbreak also. i wonder if this is what inspired your recent heat creep video. i know you have had a lot of issues with the design with ptfe down to the nozzle, but frankly so far this bimetal thing has caused more show-stopping issues for me than ptfe-to-nozzle ever did, and i'll probably go back to that (or upgrade to a v6 hotend). it might be that the printer i use this in is kinda full time pla, i don't really do petg or abs on it... perhaps those are not as finicky with this heatbreak, which is kinda counter-intuitive.
@losangelesrccrawlers3738
@losangelesrccrawlers3738 Жыл бұрын
Same, more issues after installation then before with stock setup
@svdworkis
@svdworkis Жыл бұрын
@@losangelesrccrawlers3738 it hasn’t happened in awhile. maybe i’ve not made any mistakes in months (seems unlikely). i think i heard heatbreaks can be take some run-in to season like some people say with their build plate (i’ve never really studied but i’ve heard some build surfaces work better after some use)
2 жыл бұрын
@CHEP, why do you install the nozzle first??? This is not how the manufacturer's (Slice Engineering) instruction describe and this is also error prone. The proper way is to screw in the heatbreak first, until the top of the lower thread of the heatbreak are flush with the top of the heatblock. This ensures that the heatbreak is screwed-in deep enough that the MK8 nozzle *will* bump into it prior the MK8 nozzle shoulder bumps to the bottom of the heatblock...
@stevenc485
@stevenc485 2 жыл бұрын
I just did this mod to me Ender 3 V2 and let me tell you it was not easy to unscrew the stock heat break from the hot end. I had the hot end set up like you in vice grips, but even when heated to 240C I couldn't budge it with needle nose pliers. The stock heat break seems like hardened steel. Finally was able to remove it with a small pipe wrench lol.
@pantherpigeon3048
@pantherpigeon3048 Жыл бұрын
ahh good so its not just me. who cant undo it
@MCsCreations
@MCsCreations 3 жыл бұрын
Oh... Pretty impressive indeed, Chuck! 😃 Thanks a lot! Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
@JoeMalovich
@JoeMalovich 2 жыл бұрын
I did this and am having endless heat creep jams where the filament slows down but doesn't stop all the way leading to underextrusion. I've done everything I can think of and research about to stop this from happening.
@FilamentFriday
@FilamentFriday 2 жыл бұрын
Check your fan for failure( spinning too slow)
@JoeMalovich
@JoeMalovich 2 жыл бұрын
@@FilamentFriday I had replaced the fan with a new one from creality (24V) as the old one had developed bad bearings. I have replaced my part cooling solution with the thingiverse thing# 3468243 sans fan guard but the problem persisted before changing the cooling. I also have the dual gear extruder (tuned e-steps), new ptfe tubing, and a hardened nozzle for abrasives. Hotend temperatures remain steady so it's not a PID issue and I used thermal paste between the heatsink and the cold end of the heatbreak. I have also tried setting retractions to 1mm without improvement. I am able to manually push filament out past the section where it swells up in the heatsink so I know i'm not dealing with swollen and stuck filament at the beginning of a print. No swarf clogs either. I have tried PLA and PETG from different brands. When I start the printer after a failed print and manually extrude it takes a 20-30 seconds of extrusion and stepper slip (not extruder slip) to clear the swollen section of filament from the cold section before the filament flows smoothly again. Yes I am using the slice engineering heatbreak you link to.
@frits183
@frits183 2 жыл бұрын
Do you have a solution 🤔 i have the same problem 😟
@JoeMalovich
@JoeMalovich 2 жыл бұрын
@@frits183 I just gave up on that solution and upgraded to a Hemera Revo. It is by nature all metal and they will soon be releasing hardened nozzles for abrasives too.
@ShadeDead16
@ShadeDead16 3 жыл бұрын
You are a hero! :) Always watch your videos!
@stuartpollock84
@stuartpollock84 3 жыл бұрын
This was possibly the single best upgrade I made to my Ender 3s. I absolutely hate the design having the ptfe tube butt up to the nozzle, it caused so many issues. As soon as I swapped to these those issues have completely disappeared.
@dangerous8333
@dangerous8333 3 жыл бұрын
That was probably a different problem. Since most people are printing with Bowden tubes perfectly fine. I've had zero issues with my Bowden tube. Even before I upgraded it to a Capricorn tube. Only reason I'm getting the all metal hot end is to print at higher temps.
@FallOfInsanity
@FallOfInsanity 3 жыл бұрын
Do you find that it helps prevent the gap clogs? Or does it still need to be super flush?
@garylangford6755
@garylangford6755 3 жыл бұрын
What issues did ir solve?
@atistang
@atistang 3 жыл бұрын
@@dangerous8333 I wouldn't say that's the only reason. Changing nozzles is easier too since you don't have to go through extra steps to ensure the PTFE tube is butted up against the nozzle.
@burgerdad5681
@burgerdad5681 3 жыл бұрын
what retraction settings do you use now?
@facelessfan
@facelessfan 2 жыл бұрын
Will this work with the Creality Spider 3.0 Pro All Metal Hotend
@24631
@24631 2 жыл бұрын
My ptfe tube was shot too so change it to capricorn tubing and install my bltouch to 🙂
@erklid2882
@erklid2882 3 жыл бұрын
I knew this could be possible Thanks for confirming this...sir CHEP
@papyro6830
@papyro6830 3 жыл бұрын
Two weeks with a filament oiler installed and you will never have a problem again,I almost bought the internet BS till I tried it and was blown away. I went from constant jams,and failed prints to never having a malfunction since. Just try it and thank me later
@FilamentFriday
@FilamentFriday 3 жыл бұрын
Already showed that: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hXiaiJhuaLJoncU
@AndyDillbeck
@AndyDillbeck 2 жыл бұрын
I put one on yesterday and it does seem to help a whole lot. One thing I noticed was blobs of what kind of looks like burned oil and plastic on the print. It didn't seem to really hurt the quality at all, it just looks unclean. Possibly I put a little too much oil on the sponge, or maybe I need to run it hotter until the tube is fully cured? If you have a tip on that I would be grateful. I'm already much more happy with it than I was 2 days ago when I almost switched back to the stock tube, before I saw your tip.
@jesseburson
@jesseburson 2 жыл бұрын
I can't use capricorn. Filament always seems to not go through it well. Ends up clogging at the end of PTFE
@cache4pat
@cache4pat 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this addition, for my adventure into using PETG. And, who knows, I might get brave and try ABS. I have functional parts tgat I made in PLA, and they did not 'weather well'; so I am hoping a material change will improve those.
@scottbroady7640
@scottbroady7640 3 жыл бұрын
I'm running a titanium version of the heat break on mine. I took a chance on it and it works great. One of the draw backs is I have to do a cold pull after every print otherwise it will jam the next print if it cools down
@infiniteefpv
@infiniteefpv 3 жыл бұрын
That means ur heat break ain't working very well lol
@haysoos123
@haysoos123 3 жыл бұрын
This is why you want to avoid buying cheap heat breaks. It's one of the most critical parts of the machine, and it has to be machined really well and be designed properly. Either that or hotend cooling situation is not very good. Having to do a cold pull every print isn't a sign of a properly working hotend.
@ILEFTCAPS0N
@ILEFTCAPS0N 3 жыл бұрын
Couldn't you just modify your gcode so at the end of each print it retracts a lot, and at the start of a print it advances an equal amount?
@VinnyBagODoughnuts
@VinnyBagODoughnuts 3 жыл бұрын
Makes me want to pull the trigger on the Aguila. I currently have an Anet AM8 with a genuine E3DV6.
@rp479
@rp479 3 жыл бұрын
Aquila with the new Alex jyers firmware is amazing.
@someramdomguy99
@someramdomguy99 3 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video on putting a ender 3 v2 in a encloser? I’m worried about the power supply getting to hot. I have no idea how to relocate it outside of the encloser
@tay802hall
@tay802hall 3 жыл бұрын
Love your videos and that is going to be next on my Ender 3 v2.
@FilamentFriday
@FilamentFriday 3 жыл бұрын
You’ll like it. Use the link for discount.
@marks47
@marks47 3 жыл бұрын
You're tempting me to try ABS again... Bad man!
@mwhiten100
@mwhiten100 2 жыл бұрын
The heating block for this has dimensions that I can't match to any silicone socks in the marketplace. Why didn't they use the standard heating block? Seems the only way to get a silicone sock for this is to buy another hotend kit.
@PantherU
@PantherU Жыл бұрын
How the hell did you have the hand strength to screw that new heat break in by hand?!?!!
@kkuenzel56
@kkuenzel56 Жыл бұрын
I bought the Slice Engineering heat break after seeing this video. I tried it right away and my print quality dropped considerably. I went back to stock Creality setup and the print quality was back up to the quality I expected. Yesterday, I had to replace me fan motor so I decided to try it again while I had it apart. I put the Slice heat break in with a brand new Microswiss M2 nozzle that I bought at MRRF this year and reassembled it and again it prints like crap. I had re-leveled the bed. Tried slicing a quick print in the latest Cura and Simplify 3D and 2 different rolls of PLA filament. For some reason, whenever I stray away from the stock Creality setup, print quality goes down the toilet. Any input would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!
@gustavrsh
@gustavrsh 3 жыл бұрын
Why add the thermal paste between the heat sink and the break? Isn't the function of the break to NOT transfer heat to the heat sink?
@fritzwalter1112
@fritzwalter1112 3 жыл бұрын
In my case, I got a lot of clogs because of heat creep. The thermal paste between the heat brake and the heat sink helps with cooling the heatbrake
@FilamentFriday
@FilamentFriday 3 жыл бұрын
The purpose of the heat sink is to draw heat away from the heat break top section so filament won’t preheat and expand. Thermal paste helps that process.
@zajecar2420
@zajecar2420 3 жыл бұрын
What about trianglelab one?
@Medievalfan94
@Medievalfan94 2 жыл бұрын
Printed PETG at 230°C for a few hours daily for a week and noticed the extruder starting to skip steps, the infamous clicking issue on Ender 3 style printers. I pulled out the PTFE liner and it was burned severly and obviously was on the best way to clog up completely. Now I ordered the Bi-Metal heatbrake from Slice Engineering to cheaply convert to an all metal hotend and I will see if this eliminates this problem.
@FilamentFriday
@FilamentFriday 2 жыл бұрын
It will
@zve3332
@zve3332 2 жыл бұрын
How did you increase the max temp? I assume it is capable of higher temps now?
@garylangford6755
@garylangford6755 3 жыл бұрын
Just the video i needed!
@eatthecheese9713
@eatthecheese9713 3 жыл бұрын
Is this a replacement for an all metal hotend to do nylon?
@lakitu6422
@lakitu6422 2 жыл бұрын
If you screw it on just right you can use it with bl touch. I screwed the heatbreak so it was flush with the heatblock but I would recommend going 1/2 or 1/4 turns back from it to make more room. I was left with .5mm z offset. As long as you put the bed clips in strategic spots (if you have the low profile ones to go with the creality glass bed). If you don't check the bed clips you can have the print hit them causing G112 error.
@dominikslovak1897
@dominikslovak1897 2 жыл бұрын
Can you show us, the same change on the Ender 3 S1?
@michaeldavis2421
@michaeldavis2421 Жыл бұрын
Hi Chuck, I really enjoyed your videos, i purchased the HB from Slice however I noticed that the nozzle goes in 21/2 turns. Should i relevel and change Z offset?
@LogicMathh
@LogicMathh 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@gasparigi
@gasparigi 3 жыл бұрын
1:50 lock the end of your filament to prevent tangle in future printings.
@weekendwireless
@weekendwireless 2 жыл бұрын
Is there anywhere else to get these from ? I am from the U.K. ?
@heroflying
@heroflying 3 жыл бұрын
Great video... Would you recommend after doing this, wouldn't a PID autotune be a good idea?
@edumaker-alexgibson
@edumaker-alexgibson 3 жыл бұрын
100% definitely. Any changes at all to the hot end, even a fan replacement, it's worth doing. If you've never changed your machine, it's worth doing!
@kei2142
@kei2142 3 жыл бұрын
If the slice engineering is too expensive a all metal throat can be had from the usual Chinese supplier for maybe 8 bucks a piece. I deal with clogging by burning cooking oil inside the filament path before installing it.
@DeltaruinsX-o
@DeltaruinsX-o 6 ай бұрын
What heat sink is that because the one I have doesn’t fit the heat break
@buder5116
@buder5116 2 жыл бұрын
huh 5:08 that paste can't be bought anywhere in canada :S
@Smokeisprogress
@Smokeisprogress 2 жыл бұрын
is the V2 the same as the Ender 3? Title says Ender 3
@carlocorrado03
@carlocorrado03 3 жыл бұрын
I'm looking at the slice website but they don't have just the heat break. They seem to sell the heat break and a hot end in a kit. Am I missing something? Seems a little misleading to send you just the heat break and not sell it that way. In canada BTW
@jjclarkson3261
@jjclarkson3261 2 жыл бұрын
FYI. The link lands on a page WITHOUTH just the heatbreak. I think they are trying to upsell through confusion. Might be a conversation you want to have with them ;)
@FilamentFriday
@FilamentFriday 2 жыл бұрын
Which link did you choose? There is one for the heatbreak alone and another for all products.
@GlenEdwards
@GlenEdwards 2 жыл бұрын
I just got a cheap one off ebay which looks like brass with a stainless threaded part down the bottom. It has only about 5mm space for the PTFE tube to go into it, which is much much less than the Slice Engineering model you've got here. I wonder if that's a good thing....
@FilamentFriday
@FilamentFriday 2 жыл бұрын
I talked about those in the video. I don’t recommend them.
@peterwolfik5827
@peterwolfik5827 2 жыл бұрын
How to change the printers max-out temperature after installing this heartbreak? In the firmware?
@LargeKid
@LargeKid Жыл бұрын
I got extremely worried for a minute after i installed the heat break. I also noticed it is to tall for the cr touch. I did the auto level and adjust my z off set. Then i had to go to work. Guess just have to keep on it when i print just in case if i have to change the z offset. That would have been a nice tidbit of info to have. Very glad after came back to read the comments to see if i was the only one having that issue. Do they make some kind of back plate or something to make it higher up?
@jordanfunk661
@jordanfunk661 3 жыл бұрын
Love chep, but can’t support Slice Engineering as a company. They didn’t deserve their patent on the mosquito and they have gone after small companies (like so small that they are operating out of their garage) for selling similar products.
@avejst
@avejst 3 жыл бұрын
What a great application, and simple upgrade 👍. Thanks for sharing your experience with all of us 👍😀
@EvoKeremidarov
@EvoKeremidarov 3 жыл бұрын
what was the temp in the heat break prior to upgrading to the new one? that would've been nice to show as before and after.
@ethzero
@ethzero 3 жыл бұрын
Came to the comments to makes this very point.
@EvoKeremidarov
@EvoKeremidarov 3 жыл бұрын
@@ethzero hopefully he can make a quick follow up
@FilamentFriday
@FilamentFriday 3 жыл бұрын
The PTFE went all the way thru to the nozzle on the first heat break so the temp was whatever the nozzle temp was. So at 250° C the temp on the end of the PTFE was 250°C.
@jbronks2009
@jbronks2009 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, I just bought this for my Ender 3 Max. Question I have, do you need to do a PID autotune after installing this? How is that done on an Ender? Thanks much.
@FilamentFriday
@FilamentFriday 3 жыл бұрын
You shouldn’t need to. I didn’t.
@john-andrewthomson1151
@john-andrewthomson1151 2 жыл бұрын
WHAT WOULD YOU SET YOU RETRACTIONS TO
@sekazi
@sekazi 3 жыл бұрын
Do you have to change your retraction when using these?
@jonathanlarsen4177
@jonathanlarsen4177 3 жыл бұрын
0.5 - 2mm Retract MAX Perhaps you'll need to print 5-10°C hotter, not necessarily though.
@dugy40
@dugy40 2 жыл бұрын
cant find it on their website. theirs has the heat block with it for 99 dollars. not seeing just the tube. direct link for ender 3 v2?
@ronm6585
@ronm6585 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@richardcaracoza6782
@richardcaracoza6782 3 жыл бұрын
Did your retraction settings change?
@scoulp5189
@scoulp5189 3 жыл бұрын
it's a shame not to take advantage of this modification to try to raise the temperature and print nylon at 300 ° by modifying the ender. Is it possible ? could you make a video on it? it would be great to print nylon carbon on an ender
@devondecenzo2658
@devondecenzo2658 2 жыл бұрын
Hello CHEP what tool did you use to measure the tubing? And if you have a link that would be great! I want to make sure I have all the right tools to work on my 3D Printer so any others you want to throw at me would also be great. Thank you for the videos and the help!!!
@dugy40
@dugy40 2 жыл бұрын
also i cant find red capricorn tubing. didnt see a link here
@St00p1dHead
@St00p1dHead 2 жыл бұрын
Would there be an advantage or disadvantage if you installed this upgrade and did the hot end fix from another one of your videos?
@kkuenzel56
@kkuenzel56 3 жыл бұрын
Just bought this heat break and installed it last night. Although I print primarily PLA, I thought this would be handy if I chose to print with other materials. However, after installed this my print quality went way South. I've re-leveled the bed, tried different temps and retraction settings. Pretty disappointing for printing PLA. I'll be switching back to my original setup.
@facundogomez4892
@facundogomez4892 3 жыл бұрын
I think i have the same problem. The quality is not so good. I have stringing issues and i can't adjust the retraction distance because at more than 3.5mm the hot end gets clogged. So i'll try to use the oil dispenser trick. If it doesn't work, i'll be switching back to the original setup too.
@facundogomez4892
@facundogomez4892 3 жыл бұрын
I'm talking about PLA, didn't try other materials yet.
@AndyDillbeck
@AndyDillbeck 2 жыл бұрын
@@facundogomez4892 Did you ever get it working right? I'm having similar issues with under extrusion (possibly because of clogging) when doing a lot of retraction after the upgrade.
@bo2o
@bo2o 2 жыл бұрын
getting a lot of stringing also been trying all speeds and retractions. nothing works yet. spent a lot of time.
@facundogomez4892
@facundogomez4892 2 жыл бұрын
@@AndyDillbeck Yes, i managed to make it work reducing the retration distance at 1.6, retraction speed at 40 and increasing noozle's temperature at 215°C. I reinstalled the bi-metal and the noozle tighter, so i't doesn't loose material, and i installed a new aluminum extrusor, wich took me some time to adjust it right. The problem is that there is stringing (looks like you have to accept it for pla and bi-metal), but there is no clogging and It worked continuously since then.
@BigDan1190
@BigDan1190 3 жыл бұрын
100% the best first upgrade you could do to these printers. Probably the most common issue new users have is clogs because the PTFE isn't sealed well against the nozzle, an all metal heatbreak solves this issue.
@24631
@24631 2 жыл бұрын
It cost me 57$ cad for montreal Canada I cant wait to install it on my creality ender max that is clog after a 3 weeks of printing 😁
@blakebuhlig7573
@blakebuhlig7573 3 жыл бұрын
Did your E3V2 not come with a silicone sock on the heater block, or did you intentionally remove it?
@FilamentFriday
@FilamentFriday 3 жыл бұрын
I removed it.
@curtislincoln6044
@curtislincoln6044 9 ай бұрын
Chuck, thank you for all your videos. I installed this upgrade. The printer printed fine once. I tried the 2nd print and it was plugged . The extruded was tapping. I could not clear the plug until I pulled the hot end apart an used a small drill to clear the plastic in the heat breaker. After I got it clear I tried again and the printer plugged again after on successful print. I am printing pre foamed Lw pla to print airplanes. This material is a little coarse. Just wondering if you have any idea how I can fix this. You’re a busy man so I understand if you don’t get time to respond. You have really helped my 3d printing with your videos
@FilamentFriday
@FilamentFriday 9 ай бұрын
I’d contact them to see if there is an issue. It shouldn’t do that.
@Juhsga
@Juhsga 2 жыл бұрын
I am looking into hotends for my Ender 3 V2. The Red Lizard Dual Gear Extruder, Red Lizard K1, Sprite Extruder Pro Kit 300℃ High Temperature, Spider High-temperature Hotend, Pico Hybrid Hotend, and the Dragonfly. I want to print Nylon CF, and TPUs in the future. Hope you cover these in the future!
@Panin2001oca
@Panin2001oca 8 ай бұрын
Which did you go with and how did it go?
@Juhsga
@Juhsga 8 ай бұрын
@@Panin2001oca hello, I haven't had a conclusive result in my search for another hot end and truth be told now they're better printers that are so much better than the Ender 3 V2 I'm not sure if it's worth do any upgrades to it any longer. I did buy a cheap dual gear extruder from Amazon that replaces the original with the nicer blue tubing but that's it. This is just a expensive hobby at the moment so I am not actively printing and only printing utility items.
@Panin2001oca
@Panin2001oca 8 ай бұрын
@@Juhsga okay thanks anyways. I bought an ender 3 with the intent of buying a “bad” printer and making it work 😅 kinda enjoy the pain plus I feel good when I don’t have issues while my friends with better printers do. Also the challenge of upgrading rather than buying complete is fun. I’m trying to print nylon on a, as stock as I can get, ender 3
@Juhsga
@Juhsga 8 ай бұрын
@@Panin2001oca it's fun to tinker and upgrade as long as you can afford it and does teach you a lot. I would like to tinker more but it's just too expensive to do so.
@Anontesla
@Anontesla 2 жыл бұрын
Chep thank you!! I have a question, will it work with nylon and or the carbon fiber nylon, and is the part as good as the all metal micro Swiss hot end ? Thank you again for all your videos and your time and knowledge!! Hope today finds you smiling!!
@FilamentFriday
@FilamentFriday 2 жыл бұрын
If you modify the firmware to go above 260°C
@NanceLvr
@NanceLvr 2 жыл бұрын
Where is the firmware update?
@24631
@24631 2 жыл бұрын
I order one 2 days ago for my Ender Max as soon it get here i'll change the tubing for capricorn and i'm going to install belt tension upgrade after i'm thinking about the dual z upgrade, have you find something for using a touch screen on the max ? 😉 great videos and thank you
@direhavok8732
@direhavok8732 2 жыл бұрын
Did you have to adjust setting of BLtouch using this item?
@FilamentFriday
@FilamentFriday 2 жыл бұрын
I think I adjusted Z offset a touch.
@customsrusprincalifornia2284
@customsrusprincalifornia2284 2 жыл бұрын
Have you tried the dragonfly all metal hot end?
@FilamentFriday
@FilamentFriday 2 жыл бұрын
No
@jager9633
@jager9633 2 жыл бұрын
Man I've been having a lot of problems with this thing. I I just can't get through a full PLA print without a clunking extruder and clogged nozzle. I'm pretty confident I installed it correctly but I think my base model ender 3 fan setup just isn't cutting it. I set my nozzle to 210C and used a meat thermometer (not sure how accurate this is in a hot end) and measured 52C where the Bowden tube ends and over 60C in the narrow tube going to the heat block. Manually pointing a 5015 fan at the hot end lowered these temps 15-17C. I'm also aware that retraction tuning is pretty important in metal hot ends, but my benchy with only 1.5mm of retraction started clunking an hour in. This was at only 185C. If anyone has suggestions or a similar experience with the base model Ender 3 and this part I'd love to hear about it. I have a supposedly better hot end fan coming tomorrow. I do believe this is a well engineered, well built component but I'm about ready to ditch it for the stock setup with a capricorn tube. I'll edit this comment if I can get it working. EDIT: Well, I hit a major SNAFU. The new fan performed the same as stock so I decided to rebuild the hot end and make sure I used enough thermal paste around the heat break. I managed to break the nozzle with the copperhead still attached, leaving my $30 heat break fixed to a useless heat block. I might try to extract the nozzle but I'm leaning toward just throwing my Ender into the nearest river.
@FilamentFriday
@FilamentFriday 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a bad fan. It should get that hot. The 5015 fan kinda proved your theory.
@papyro6830
@papyro6830 3 жыл бұрын
Online experts say a filament oiler is BS and a bandaid to improper assembly of your hotend. I disagree greatly, every jam,plug,and issue they create magically vanish with one installed. And after two weeks you can throw it away because it won't need it anymore. They need seasoned just like a cast iron skillet,its crazy easy and suddenly none of these issues happen at all.
@FilamentFriday
@FilamentFriday 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve said that before: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hXiaiJhuaLJoncU
@jony9259
@jony9259 4 ай бұрын
Hi Chuck, do you remember where you got the stl file for the v slot extrusion covers? I remember you made a video about them but I can't seem to find it. Thanks. I've looked on thingiverse but I'm not finding the same stl.
@FilamentFriday
@FilamentFriday 4 ай бұрын
Like these? www.thingiverse.com/search?q=V+slot+covers&page=1
@jony9259
@jony9259 4 ай бұрын
@@FilamentFriday thanks for replying. I'm looking for a specific model, I am not sure but I seem to remember you featured one in one of your older videos. I've tried a few others but they don't fit as well.
@diaman_d
@diaman_d 3 жыл бұрын
i'd love to get one but it seems hard to find for my ender5 where i live.
@truthteller5539
@truthteller5539 2 жыл бұрын
Great review, I do have a question, did you have to reduce your retraction distance when using the bi-metal hotend.
@FilamentFriday
@FilamentFriday 2 жыл бұрын
No, didn’t change it at all.
@jeffaltavilla6261
@jeffaltavilla6261 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Chuck, while watching your video to install my new heat sink, i noticed you don't have the rubber shroud around the heat block. Is it necessary to have that on, I trimmed the pointy part off to make easer to change the nozzle.
@FilamentFriday
@FilamentFriday 3 жыл бұрын
It helps clean it when filament ends up there and also helps a little with temp stability but it’s so minor. But for videos I just take it off.
@jvianneyjr
@jvianneyjr 2 жыл бұрын
Could I use PLA into this bi-metal hot end?
@lakitu6422
@lakitu6422 2 жыл бұрын
My prints have a wood grain texture on them after installing this. Is there a way to fix this?
@frits183
@frits183 2 жыл бұрын
Do you already have a solution 🤔 I have the same issue 😟
@lakitu6422
@lakitu6422 2 жыл бұрын
@@frits183 Sadly no. I've even tried asking on the q&a section of slices website and still haven't gotten anything. Best I got is that the boron paste didn't make a difference.
@FilamentFriday
@FilamentFriday 2 жыл бұрын
Did you run a new PID on it after installing?
@lakitu6422
@lakitu6422 2 жыл бұрын
@@FilamentFriday Yes I did. Temps are only off target by up to +- 0.3 degrees afterwards so I'm not sure if it a temperature problem or something else.
@frits183
@frits183 2 жыл бұрын
@@FilamentFriday I did now also and no big divererence I go try a other hotend and hope this will work
@naldrich50
@naldrich50 3 жыл бұрын
Are you recommending the Slicer engineering Heat Break over just getting a new All Metal Swiss Hotend?
@FilamentFriday
@FilamentFriday 3 жыл бұрын
Yes.
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