David Mitchell sets out on a polite but firm inquiry into the confusing world of manners. Copyright BBC and David Mitchell
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@sirderik8 жыл бұрын
I will quote a other comedian here: Dara O Briain: " the reason we say elbows of the table to our kids is because our parents said elbows of the table to us, and the reason they said elbows of the table to us is because there parents said elbows of the table to them, and frankly that's how religion gets started". I think elbows on the table is fine wear i am from. of course that's because we have a table large enough to have 4 plates of food and some pots and stuff without cramping every cm off space.
@sirderik8 жыл бұрын
just something i missed but i have edit away that.
@sirderik8 жыл бұрын
Harrylechat01 well you found a other off. but i am not editing that becuase. it dose not mather.
@sirderik8 жыл бұрын
Harrylechat01 i wrote cm before off, so if you really care, them it is just your own fault. it was worng gamma that i bet you din't care about, or notice.
@sirderik8 жыл бұрын
Harrylechat01 are you bored? o do you think this is a engaging conversation of any sorts especially when you are behaving childish.
@annemariefleming8 жыл бұрын
It's OFF, not of...the table.
@Nole13238 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad you uploaded this. I was randomly searching 'David Mitchell' to see if anything new had come out and this made my day. Thank you :)
@philosyche8 жыл бұрын
+Nole Haha, that's exactly what I did!! xD
@samuelterry63548 жыл бұрын
+philosyche Same here.
@linussandstrom5298 жыл бұрын
same :)
@lealy448 жыл бұрын
+Nole me also, exactly what I did. Thanks :)
@MusabJilani8 жыл бұрын
Lol, same!
@ningus8 жыл бұрын
'Sorry is social lubricant' couldn't agree more, I say sorry so many times a day
@PiratesAreSoCool8 жыл бұрын
+Ning Dingus I notice the British say "oop sorry" a lot
@ningus8 жыл бұрын
we do
@DanGolag8 жыл бұрын
+Ning Dingus Often when I forget to use actual lubricant.
@ericwolff60598 жыл бұрын
+Terrach Wilson , and us Kiwi's too.
@ningus8 жыл бұрын
Gal Dagon hahahah, thats too funny
@phyvo7 жыл бұрын
This is the best youtube recommendation I have ever gotten.
@4Pssf2w7 жыл бұрын
+burtlangoustine1 that's because mole people run KZbin
@barbaraclark53202 жыл бұрын
5 years later and this still holds profoundly true
@Rinuzzi7 жыл бұрын
Mitchell please talk more about everything
@decodolly15355 жыл бұрын
Is You Tube broken? It has recommended something which actually interests me. That can't be right.....
@JervisGermane Жыл бұрын
I think it's very illustrating that the woman "from" Nigeria was actually born and raised in the UK and yet was still "from" Nigeria. Even she thinks of visiting Nigeria as "going home" rather than visiting a foreign country. I'm not trying to pass judgment on it because I know it's a difference in values, but it isn't in interesting? In the US, where you're from, where your home is, those are concepts that apply to a person as an individual. I'm not from the same places my parents are from because we all three were born and raised in different places. In the UK it seems to be more tied to where your family is from, where your ancestry is, rather than where you personally have lived all your life.
@11Kralle7 жыл бұрын
Elbows on table is bad manners because: 1. I say so (my fathers explanation) 2. One puts his weight on the table and starts to shake the whole thing as soon as one changes position (my grandmothers explanation) 3. You suggest/convey the bad manners of your family every time you're invited to other tables (my mothers explanation) 4. You build up to a bad posture of your upper body that way (my explanation) 5. You cannot use your weapons properly - I loved the german girls 'don't put your hands under the table'-explanation. Never heard that myself, but it sounds just right...
@easyTree777 жыл бұрын
11Kralle and so we have it - when two alternate versions of the same behaviour (elbows on table) are both seen as mannered by different cultures we see that it's non universal and therefore relatively useless in an environment populated from people from many cultures.
@11Kralle7 жыл бұрын
easyTree77 Is there a culture in which the elbows have to go on the table? Those who sit on the ground or haven't any furniture would have to lie down for that... Got to read my "Grobianus" for some real clues :D
@easyTree777 жыл бұрын
11Kralle *shrug* if not there should be - if only to demonstrate that it's meaningless - if people don't know why it's (for any particular rule) considered ill mannered, in a way which can be coherently explained such that transcends culture - what value is it and how would one escape mockery by a leading class whom you wish to emulate?
@timmartindale755 жыл бұрын
@@easyTree77 No culture sees it as good manners. It's either neutral or deprecated. And you meant alternative not alternate (and no, they don't mean the same thing).
@Hoganply7 жыл бұрын
The civilising process may have saved lives, but it may also have contributed to various neuroses people have today. Just a thought. I can imagine social evolution is a little too quick for our brains to cope with it.
@TheLordSod7 жыл бұрын
Hoganply nice photo 😉
@grandad19827 жыл бұрын
I'm one of those people who always says sorry in public when someone else bumps me or is at fault. I hate myself for it but not as much as I hate them for not saying sorry!
@angledcoathanger7 жыл бұрын
After 10 minutes I'm still on the razor's edge of not finding this interesting to enough continue listening to. It's exhilarating. Will I keep listening? Will I turn it off? No one knows...
@andywatts86549 ай бұрын
After two lines I’m bored of reading you
@Uneekname7 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. I love David Mitchell
@janslavik5284 Жыл бұрын
Creepy thing is KZbin recommended this to me on the first week of january... 6 years later 😳
@jenniferpearce1052 Жыл бұрын
Just a couple weeks later for me! But I know I've listened to this before.
@wotmot2238 жыл бұрын
I do so like David Mitchell
@nightknight72087 жыл бұрын
That last point about bumping into someone and it's both your faults, and you apologise and the other person doesn't... yes, David, I completely agree. It sends me into an internal rage (of course I'm too polite to vocalise said rage, but still).
@under0ath1097 жыл бұрын
'I've got to look interested, keep nodding, nodding, and a bit of eyebrows.'
@das07167 жыл бұрын
Most Americans say sorry quite a lot, same as the British.
@evanhadkins55327 жыл бұрын
If you think manners have declined read The Civilising Process. Most rude people are better than the aristocrats in medieval Europe. The details are quite disgusting. (Roughly his view is that civilising means educating what we should find disgusting.)
@morbid1.3 жыл бұрын
it's 2021... I would love to hear David's angry logic monologue about state of this fucking planet.
@0xCAFEF00D7 жыл бұрын
This would be so educational to so many people. And when you think about who's the people are that's trying to set different standards of social conduct right now and the way they do it you find it all to have flipped on its head in certain ways. But of course I find myself in a position where i consider my manners the correct set of manners, so any change from any side will seem inappropriate to me. Except I really feel elbows on the table is way better than someone hiding a weapon.
@rush202364 жыл бұрын
Listening to this in the first week of January 2020. It's well written, concise and a joy of listen to.
@danwoodhouse92907 жыл бұрын
6:13 "DONT CHEW WITH YOUR MOUTH FULL"??? How else are you going to swallow your food?
@Daracurtin8 жыл бұрын
David mitchell, I dunno what it is but I can listen to this man talk for hours. Maybe it's my love of history and intelligent comedians... Also as a poker player and straight male I can't help but be jealous of his wife Veronica cohen Mitchell
@benwherlock98698 жыл бұрын
*Victoria.
@benwherlock98698 жыл бұрын
Coren
@robertheal51377 жыл бұрын
She's quite hot, all things considered.
@njits7895 жыл бұрын
I LOVE Mrs Veronica Cohen Mitchell... in a completely appropriate way.
@TheSmart-CasualGamer5 жыл бұрын
Victoria Coren Mitchell.
@653j5217 жыл бұрын
I have heard many times that Brits think American clerks who are cheerful in dealing with them are fake and hypocritical, when in fact the clerks often feel that a bad attitude at work makes it harder on everyone, but a smile and a cheerful word often bring a smile and a cheerful word in return, perhaps even from some of the less grumpy Brits. :) It is seen as acting like a grown up and not dumping personal problems on the public. I don't know why our trying to make life less grim is so unacceptable to Brits. How dare we differ from them! But then Americans don't understand chronically apologizing to someone who bumps into us and in fact in big cities it is seen as a sign that a criminal is testing us to see if we would be an easy target, which is why NYers are snarly if you touch them but go out of their way to help you if you are in trouble. Manners don't travel well, whether by region or class. One person's best behavior is another person's outrage. It's only a social lubricant with your own kind. It's social dynamite if you insist on imposing your manners on others who are outside your group.
@AndrewMottershead5 жыл бұрын
Quite nice to hear a bunch of well educated and clear thinking kids who know how to express themselves...
@Kermi1706 ай бұрын
David’s voice feels like a warm hug/cuddle, even though David would feel awkward if he had to give you one in real life!
@TimwiTerby7 жыл бұрын
Would it be a breach of manners to point out that you got the pronunciation of Norbert Elias wrong and Steven Pinker got it right?
@remlatzargonix13297 жыл бұрын
Timwi Heizmann .....no, but you could fuck off?
@the_Giovanni_Jian2 жыл бұрын
17:25, I can sense the nervousness of Mitchell when talking to that bloke.
@simonakhara39637 жыл бұрын
Unbuttoned shirt showing your chest hair might be considered bad manners, or at least bad taste...
@remlatzargonix13297 жыл бұрын
Simona Khara ..especially for women. Girls, your hairy chests are off-putting!😂
@Prog4Prog7 жыл бұрын
Mitchell should team up with Armando Ianucci, Charlie Brooker. a match made in heaven
@burtlangoustine17 жыл бұрын
Fuck YES
@christonamtb40897 жыл бұрын
In a gay way?
@Prog4Prog7 жыл бұрын
Christ On A Mtb ?????
@christonamtb40897 жыл бұрын
+Prog4Prog would that programme be the three of them queering each other up?
@Prog4Prog7 жыл бұрын
Christ On A Mtb I'm thinking more of a satire comedy show mate but whatever floats your boat..
@MairaCanalesIllustrator6 жыл бұрын
As a Canadian, I really felt a great connection to this, particularly that last bit in which they discussed saying “Sorry” all the time and being a little bit scandalized when someone doesn’t say it in return.
@danwoodhouse92907 жыл бұрын
you could run through lists and lists of the rude things that people do mobile phones must be top of the list men who go to the toilet in the pub and leave the toilet door wide open old people in the post office who have to waste time telling the clark about their daughters holiday when the clark doesn't even know who her daughter is(no prejudice intended, but ive never seen a young person do that) people who have to shout to someone else from a distance rather than walk over to them that's 4 - any more for any more
@fisharmor7 жыл бұрын
Stopped listening after the assertion that medieval people regularly murdered each other over simple arguments. If you invite that comparison you invite me to investigate what goes on today - and I'm betting for every instance in the entire medieval period we can find documented, I can find ten from the last decade. Even if the comparison were true, the only reason to do it is to pretend we've got things better societally than medieval people did. It shuts down investigation into how they really lived. It pushes us further into the blunder of not knowing history and therefore repeating it.
@zedex12267 жыл бұрын
I'd take that action if we adjusted for population increase. We're safer now than ever and i'd wager that extends to dueling, fighting words, etc. it wouldn't be a sporting wager if I had researched this aforehand so there's that.
@fisharmor7 жыл бұрын
"Safer now than ever".... really? At the age of four I was allowed to roam freely wherever I wished. In the street, back in the woods out of sight... anywhere. Admittedly I was a bit older (8) when I was allowed to roam freely in New Orleans, which has never been known as a paragon of safety. My 7yo daughter got me slapped with actual criminal charges when she walked around the block by herself, on the sidewalk, without my knowledge. I've confirmed with the county police on three occasions that they can charge me with felony neglect if a child less than 9 years old in my care is left unattended at all, for any length of time. Did they start doing this because of an overall perception of how safe we all are? This all happened in the last fifteen years. Someone really ought to tell the authorities how safe things are. They don't seem to have gotten the memo.
@zedex12267 жыл бұрын
how many people do you know with miner's black lung? been chased by a sabertooth lately? how many of the kids you went to school with got polio? the consumption? I agree that our collective worry does not reflect the lack of things to worry about.
@fisharmor7 жыл бұрын
I think I see the problem. You're focusing on where I said "pretend we've got things better societally than medieval people". Let me clarify. This is a broadcast about manners. The clear implication was that medieval people thought murdering each other over pub arguments was within the realm of good manners. What I intended to say is, not only is this laughably untrue, but it didn't happen then any more than it happens today, where we ostensibly do NOT consider it good manners. The only point in making this assertion is, indeed, to make it sound like medieval people were less mannerly than we are. But it has a secondary effect of shutting down investigation into how they lived. For instance, did you know about the industrial revolution - of the 12th and 13th centuries? Did you know that 700 years ago there were churches that had astronomical clocks that predicted eclipses? How many medieval buildings still exist in their mostly original form, centuries later? How many 20th century buildings of note are already falling apart? Frank Lloyd Wright couldn't even build houses that kept the rain out. The point is, nobody knows any of this stuff unless they're a nerd for it. The entire era just gets dismissed because "they murdered each other at pub". There is a hell of a lot to learn from those people - yes, even in the realm of medicine - and none of it gets learned if the overall attitude is willful ignorance for reasons which are demonstrably false.
@653j5217 жыл бұрын
You were making good points then ruined it by doing exactly what you were blaming others for doing, making statements that were laughably untrue, about Frank Lloyd Wright being incapable of building houses that kept the rain out. (Do you have a link for that? Perhaps a study of every one of his houses that showed that not one kept the rain out although he never gave up trying to remedy that with no success?) You would be more persuasive if you stuck to facts, particularly when you are arguing that people should stick to facts. :)
@gilwood75307 ай бұрын
I couldn't imagine anyone better than David to do this series
@zzoerowan20769 ай бұрын
I'm an American (not that kind) and i completely agree about the importance of "sorry". ...but i am a bit of an anglophile. What infuriates me? Strangers who respond to a stepping-aside and a friendly smile by hurrying past and scowling affrontedly. Makes me want to trip them in the next aisle. I don't. Usually.
@stumbling7 жыл бұрын
I zone out quite a lot and always feel guilty that I've ignored someone by accident.
@pixiniarts7 жыл бұрын
I zone out on purpose gives people a nice big hint that they are boring several kinds of fuck out of you.
@simonestreeter15187 жыл бұрын
Why hint? Just ask to change the subject, or excuse yourself, or otherwise use your words. Grownups know how to do that.
@doktoren997 жыл бұрын
Too bad this isnt on itunes. Would be nice to listen to this while walking with my legs.
@raymond9426 жыл бұрын
The market trader describing foreigners as "give take take". Kinda reminds me of the British empire >> give, take take, land theft, enslave, genocide. If Britain didn't do all that, perhaps the foreigners wouldn't have to know your country. Remember, if it wasn't for these foreigners slave money, britain wouldn't have funded much of the industrial revolution, railways, banks, umiversities, Stately homes, cathedrals, etc..
@JustOneAsbesto7 жыл бұрын
I don't know who David Mitchell is, but based on this picture, he's the English Rhys Darby. Rhys Darby, is of course, the New Zealish Brady Haran. While, obviously, Brady Haran is the Australian David Mitchell.
@simeonheath-moss70237 жыл бұрын
i've no idea who david mitchell is supposed to be in these other countries
@JustOneAsbesto7 жыл бұрын
They're just dudes who look similar to one another.
@TheBenjaminValentine7 жыл бұрын
As soon as I heard the good professor's name, all I could think of was, "What? Old Stinker Pinker?"
@alexbecker16618 жыл бұрын
This needed more attention in the media..
@easyTree777 жыл бұрын
Alex Becker this *is* the media now
@mariamakinen26517 жыл бұрын
Manners maketh man? N a woman. Take my word...the golden book of behavioral code. Hugs to you.
@dawnrazornephilim7 жыл бұрын
Agree with the phone thing, I haven't had one for 5 years and am doing fine. It's crazy when you have a few mates over for drinks and there is the one person constantly on their phone, I feel like telling them to bugger off after trying to get a conversation out of them, whilst feeling resentment in my failure to do so.
@Evija30007 жыл бұрын
And when one person gets on their phone often others see that as a reminder or invitation to look at theirs too. And in the end I'm left feeling like a needy puppy because I'm too polite (or shy) to ask others to put the phones down.
@phoenixdk7 жыл бұрын
Brilliant subject!
@rizandro7 жыл бұрын
Could be hiding a weapon if you don´t have the arm on your table? Hahaha!
@georgielancaster1356 Жыл бұрын
Hands under the table I was always told could give men the chance to grope or scratch, or worse. Far better to see the hands, and if a woman is groped, she is able to rule out a number of possibilities. I suspect men possibly handling their weapon under the table, is a metaphor, that someone didn't realise was a metaphor.
@rexmundi22377 жыл бұрын
The Phone Zone - that's a book waiting to be written.
@rotwart7 жыл бұрын
This is from 2016 - not 2017. You can see from the upload date.
@jimcameron98487 жыл бұрын
Ms. Goodnut, a short question - do the points made in this video apply universally in your view? I grew up in Canada and my grandmother had very strict rules on manners that I do not see in my new locale, Arizona.
@653j5217 жыл бұрын
Not at all. That's why you will probably violate a rule when you first visit another culture or subculture.
@stalfithrildi7 жыл бұрын
Leave the cutlery alone, Mitchell, or the Dee-Dar Mafia will 'ave thi.
@simeonheath-moss70237 жыл бұрын
'don't chew with food in your mouth' eh?
@timmartindale753 жыл бұрын
Resting your elbows on the table gives the impression you're not interested in the meal, fed up, too tired to sit up straight. It portrays a nonchalance toward the meal, those who prepared it and those who share it with you. Slumping in one's chair gives the same impression.
@juliaokami7123 Жыл бұрын
Excellent explaination!☺
@thatfriggingbathroom26567 жыл бұрын
Good show. Big fan of Mitchell but had to laugh when he kept interrupting the woman who talked about her children learning to wait their turn in speaking
@Grymbaldknight7 жыл бұрын
I disagree with the part about people in the middle ages randomly stabbing one another in pubs. Not saying it never happened, but casual murder has always been legal - not to mention socially frowned upon. Peeing in the corners of rooms was, however, commonplace, as - presumably - was eating with your mouth open and putting your elbows on the table.
@AltName73 жыл бұрын
Without doing a second pass of your comment, you have implied that murder is still legal.
@haitharu7 жыл бұрын
were not born megalomaniacs its just that to our parents we are everything and we come before everything so once we get to school we have a hard time figuring out were not actually special and just one more xd
@blackbird56342 ай бұрын
John Cleese said: "The English are the only people on earth who start every sentence with 'sorry.'''🤣 *One important thing that can keep you ALIVE in prison, (And David is famous for NOT having a system for this) is saying you're sorry, or ''excuse me.'' It may seem odd, but most physical confrontations CAN BE avoided with a sincere apology. -Bureau Of Corrections (USA)🥰
@amandab.recondwith80064 ай бұрын
I was appalled by the manners (or lack of) from friends I've made in Sioux Falls after living in Houston and traveling the world. After years of feeling disgusted and judgmental, I finally decided I was living in a different world now, and it was better to ignore my feelings and concentrate on the feelings of others. They're good, kind people, and their manners are not intentionally backward. So, I go with the flow. When I want to return to my familiar snobbishness, I can always fly off to visit friends in San Francisco, New York and London. In the long run, this has proved to be very satisfying. I have diversity, cosmopolitan company, and down to earth reality. What is there not to like?
@monomakes7 жыл бұрын
Oh the rising intonation in the childrens' speech :/
@0ut0fafricaa3 күн бұрын
18:06 In some cultures, such as Indian, there is no cultural expectation to say to please. It’s not a manners thing…it’s a culture thing. In China, if you stand around giving everyone else personal space you will always be last.
@gilwood75307 ай бұрын
My new favorite is a person on the phone or at a shop telling you unpleasant news (WE ARE OUT OF THAT ITEM) will say "WE are so sorry " "WE'RE SORRY"
@findkip7 жыл бұрын
Cool
@funnylad7 жыл бұрын
I wonder if David shoots himself in the head at the end of the 27m 32s chat about manners.
@mightytaco1234 жыл бұрын
I’ve always said “even the fucking Nazis had god damn manners”
@Thisandthat890811 ай бұрын
It probabaly took up th 6th or 7th caveman until the first "The youth of today..."
@hallelujah887 жыл бұрын
I always say the English confuse etiquette for manners.
@remlatzargonix13297 жыл бұрын
abadani56 .....yawn, maybe telling you to fuckoff is good etiquette, but bad manners?
@dawnjulietflower7 жыл бұрын
Yes the self bubble, the space we consider to be around ourselves, the gap between one and another person we do not know. It is different sizes in different cultures. In Australia it is twice as large as in the UK!
@3122tan7 жыл бұрын
Dawn Juliet Flower I agree we have a LARGE stay out personal area, but we also have a high proportion of people willing to violate that and are seemingly ignorant of it. It drives me nuts. I just want to turn to them and say, 'I keep shuffling away because you are breathing down my neck. Please stop taking it as in invitation to shuffle closer toward me again, as you seem to be doing' But I don't 😒
@zedex12267 жыл бұрын
consider the quietness of Japanese manners and culture. They've had centuries of cities that are so closely packed that sometimes the only privacy you can have is if those around you all agree to ignore you and vice versa. I recently smiled when I listened to a podcast where some comedians/minor celebrities were just noticing, as if discoving for the first time, that aspect to the difference between New York city and L.A.. The beauty that comes from passing your doorman every single day and never once exchanging a word, yet you and they are CLOSE members of a shared community.
@3122tan7 жыл бұрын
Zedex 12 yeah I've heard that about New York, the anonymity of that sort of encounter. As an Australian, I'd simply die of awkwardness to walk straight past someone holding a door for me or even just standing there at work, and not acknowledging them. I found it hard enough in the UK where shop assistants may or may not even so much as say hello. When they didn't, and just grabbed your purchases and put their hand out for your money I would be wondering at first what I had done wrong, and just hating the awfulness and plain awkwardness of the encounter.
@zedex12267 жыл бұрын
I've moved back and forth often between seattle and the very rural surrounding parts of Washington state. I really appreciate smaller cities and towns where it's somewhere in between what you describe. if I feel like being an emotional shut in, I may. at the same time it is not amiss to strike up conversation with strangers. I only recently became aware of ya'll's BNS's. I like that, both the modern versions and the historical roots of them. it reminds me a bit of some restaurants around that have a communal table available. where you just sit down, a bit like taking a seat at the bar, but everyone is facing one another, total strangers, and sharing a meal, making the acquaintance of the other patrons. that seems like the sort of thing that would mortify a "stuffy" englishman but then I remember they have pubs.
@georgielancaster1356 Жыл бұрын
@@3122tan I think I read that Arabs are very close, to the point of great discomfort, to Westerners. But then there is huge distancing between Arab males and females, at least as adults.
@novinophobic59958 жыл бұрын
Don't chew with your mouth full? I've heard don't chew with your mouth open or don't talk with your mouth full. What am I missing?
@nbrader8 жыл бұрын
I noticed this too. I guess that would be my pet peeve: People perpetuating the misuse of phrases and language. I understand that's what happens to language over time, but it's frustrating to see it happen. A person who says "Don't chew with your mouth full" has clearly either misspoken, misheard or learned the phrase from someone who similarly made a mistake. In any case, I'd prefer it if they made the effort to think about what they said. It isn't just children who do this. Edit: Admittedly, the phrase could be used to mean something like "Don't overfill your mouth", but even then the advice to not chew is utterly unhelpful and I fully expect is only in the phrase to begin with due to the mangling of the two phrases you mentioned.
@GoodWoIf7 жыл бұрын
My peeves are mostly about language. People get very particular about it and like with mislearnt manners, some people mislearn 'rules' and then try to foist them on other people. I get really irritated by people 'correcting' others on 'x and me' thinking it's always 'x and I', when really it's only that when the person is the subject of the sentence rather than the object. "I went to the shop. They overcharged me." ergo "Dave and I went to the shop. They overcharged Dave and ME." There are a load of other 'rules' that don't even exist.
@novinophobic59957 жыл бұрын
Mike Knowler I think you missed the point of this post. "Don't chew with your mouth full." Simply doesn't make sense...... it has nothing to do with manners. What exactly are you supposed to do with a mouth full of food.....
@novinophobic59957 жыл бұрын
This is true, you should not fill said cavity with food. A full mouth is equally obnoxious. Eat like a human not an animal. I was just picking on his vernacular.
@novinophobic59957 жыл бұрын
I've been doing it wrong....all this time! ;)
@thumper86847 жыл бұрын
I started listening because I thought it would be a short piece. Oh hell.
@thumper86847 жыл бұрын
Oh, Jesus. Where's my fucking Ritalin when I need you!
@thumper86847 жыл бұрын
Is this tedious to anyone else? Am I alone?
@thumper86847 жыл бұрын
I don't knoww who he is talking to now but they are an idiot.
@thumper86847 жыл бұрын
And yes that is grammatical you fucks.
@johnrigler8858 Жыл бұрын
Pardon my boardinghouse reach!
@Mr-zx8fu7 жыл бұрын
As with most things these days this appears to be dominated by upper middle class voices. Yes, this is entirely a prejudice of mine but there are a highly disproportionate amount of these voices given prominence in the Uk. News. Newspapers. Comedy. Comedy writing. Drama. All highly populated by voices from a roughly similar and specific kind of background. Yes, the working classes are visible too but for the most part, if you think about it, they are predominantly reserved for the finger pointing programs. Programs like Jeremy Kyle, reality tv - the point and judge genre of television. That's where your average working class joe and Jane are given space. When it comes to who are given the opportunities to write, create, present those who mound news and determine what's should matter in life etc, they are upper middle class voices.
@jenniferpearce1052 Жыл бұрын
I'm reading this just as David is interviewing the man about the story in the Iceland. And the piece kicked off with the butcher at the market. I don't think those are upper middle class voices, are they? (I'm American, so I don't have quite as nuanced an understanding of UK accents and class).
@karicoleman35487 жыл бұрын
Fantastic.
@cheekymonkey39297 жыл бұрын
manners maketh a man 💝
@Juanotubi8 жыл бұрын
There's not such thing like high criminality in the 60's whatsoever... Mitchell completely ignored the lack of West manners in indigenous communities. I would say let's go back to the 60'S! if you'll pardon the pun...
@dismalsage7 жыл бұрын
i think elbows off the table is to prevent the table from shaking
@TheOldMan-757 жыл бұрын
Maybe people should just buy proper tables instead of handing out safety guidelines.
@dismalsage7 жыл бұрын
lol i like a nice sturdy table i can put my elbows on too
@pixiniarts7 жыл бұрын
I must put my arms on the table and slouch more often when I have the terrible misfortune of dining in Wetherspoons the food is always fucking dreadful and the service poor, I'd really like my body language to communicate my deep sense of dissatisfaction and disappointment.
@pixiniarts7 жыл бұрын
Go to rougher pubs, they have all bought sturdy antique tables as the quality is up to the inevitable constant punishment... Plus the chairs that come with the tables of such good build quality are usually up to the job of being used as rudimentary projectile weapons and bludgeoning implements without disintegrating.
@easyTree777 жыл бұрын
pixiniarts truly enlightened =)
@johnline7 жыл бұрын
'don't bother come out', 'don't bother come out'.. you know what's worse manners than anyone glued to their phone are people born and bred in the UK deliberately speaking broken English.. Perhaps your underwhelming stereotypical company is what's driving them away from social contact with you.
@countertopconfessions99755 жыл бұрын
You are a wanker
@Majoofi7 жыл бұрын
The reason for not putting your elbows on the tables is that it makes it hard for waiters or servants to reach in and serve or remove items from your setting.
@lornacameron-burnett504011 ай бұрын
When I was a waitress I was standing with an ridiculously large, heavy bowl and plate containing a ridiculously small amount of soup, attempting to serve it to a woman deep in conversation with a colleague. I waited politely, despite having the rest of the table of 12 to serve, until she finally leaned back a little, removing her arms from the table, giving me a look like filth. Unfortunately, although her arms were suitably cleared out of the way, she left her enormous bosom resting on her place setting. Yes, bosom, not boobs- after a certain age and size we qualify for the more matronly term. As I endeavoured to pilot the bowl to the table, the outer rim of the unnecessarily, enormous plate just grazed the front of her chest as I slightly misjudged the landing trajectory, mistakenly expecting the lady to vacate the space adequately. The soup slopped, but was not spilled. Maybe vessel size proved its worth after all. I, of course, apologised profusely- it was a bit of a posh gaff- a country hotel- and the lady was the type to slaughter her neighbour for using the wrong fork, and was rude and dismissive enough to prove to onlookers that she was very well bred, indeed, as only the truly posh can afford to be complete and utter bottoms to the general hoi polloi. I think that the whole affair was due to a glaring omission in most books on etiquette- there are many mentions of elbows but it would be impolite to raise a lady's frontal pillows. It is too private, or perhaps too much of a given. Perhaps what the whole book of good manners could be boiled down to, if we blow away the chaff of etiquette, is be considerate. Like the chestily well-endowed on a crisply laundered tablecloth, it covers most of it.
@Majoofi11 ай бұрын
@@lornacameron-burnett5040 Beautifully told.
@joonks73737 жыл бұрын
ConfusedConfucius say: The table of no elbows is to improve posture or to enforce better posture. It is easier to slouch/get comfortable when the elbows are on the table. Placing the Wrists on the edge of the table makes the elbows tuck into the ribs.
@zetetick3957 жыл бұрын
Heh Bless! Those kids; I can just imagine their mum vetting them the night before Dave (and crew) comes round. XD
@stevewynnearts3 жыл бұрын
Throwing knives good or
@VicVegaTW8 жыл бұрын
With like
@sbooder8 жыл бұрын
Can we not add 'Not talking with Australian high rising terminal' to any future manners list please? Every child in the interviews seemed to be afflicted with this annoying trait.
@SarmonOflynn8 жыл бұрын
No?
@sbooder8 жыл бұрын
OK!
@marksieving79258 жыл бұрын
Personally, I'd like to add, "Don't carp on about the way people talk" to the list of manners. Vocal accents are not a question of manners, and one accent is no better or worse than another.
@scipioafricanus58717 жыл бұрын
Only the Queen's English will be an acceptable way of talking.
@timdaughte7 жыл бұрын
It's called Australian, but it derives from Irish and Scots. Irish speakers invariably rise at the end of sentences while Scottish speakers tend to rise at the end of (primarily) stressed words. In America we call it "valley girl."
@FrankieBoi30003 жыл бұрын
7:43 Oh elbow elbow elbow maybe you should get an elbow CD David
@occamraiser10 ай бұрын
Absolutely true David. Civilising children starts at school. Which is why home schooling and religious schools are wholly unacceptable.
@dlon453910 ай бұрын
Home schooling and religious schools belong to the set of schools. As you pointed out.
@Fluxquark7 жыл бұрын
Where does Stephen Pinker's accent come from? English isn't my first language so I can't quite place it.
@trevor_19637 жыл бұрын
He sounds like a well educated Canadian. And after a brief spot of research, it seems he's a well educated Canadian.
@reploid1233 жыл бұрын
that end with the sorry was much a Mark thing to say
@AndrewMottershead5 жыл бұрын
Poor Oshan... and his etiquette minefield.
@turinhorse2 жыл бұрын
England definitely has better spoken and mannered children than the US. probably a lot brighter as well.
@jenniferpearce1052 Жыл бұрын
I doubt they're brighter, if by "bright" you mean having native intelligence. There are well-mannered kids, raised by attentive parents, in any country. It's pretty easy to find shotty kids in either country
@shinthemouth26637 жыл бұрын
I say sorry to strangers but not much to my friends, my friends know that I care about them and only want the best for them so it is pointless to say sorry to them, the word please is like that too
@jenniferpearce1052 Жыл бұрын
Oof. Your friends and family are the ones you should say it to most.
@tomas.bednar7 жыл бұрын
Lick the spoon, do it! I know you want to!
@Vesnicie7 жыл бұрын
Was one of those kids named Kale?
@inqquire3837 жыл бұрын
Where's this restaurant?
@annafoley12927 жыл бұрын
This won't play for me - any ideas??
@the-chillian7 жыл бұрын
If the picture isn't moving, that's what you're supposed to see. It was a radio program. There's no video to go with it, so it's a still pic of Mitchell at a table.
@Muck0067 жыл бұрын
As with everything there is a way to "overdo" manners ... and this is called political "correctness", which made it bad again.
@Evija30007 жыл бұрын
21:18 love this part.
@bg6b7bft7 жыл бұрын
Don't chew with your mouth full? You're only supposed to chew with it empty?
@hornyfuckinturtle7 жыл бұрын
You don't fill it full
@y_fam_goeglyd7 жыл бұрын
bg6b7bft It's become a bit of a joke as it's easy to trip over your tongue and mix up "don't chew with your mouth open" (I *so* wish someone would hammer this into footie managers as they chew gum during a match so much that you can tell which ones still have their tonsils!), with "don't speak with your mouth full". Also, as has been noted elsewhere, someone who stuffs their mouth to absolute capacity, looks bloody awful! So not chewing with a full mouth isn't so far out.
@sbrock6385 Жыл бұрын
Thank you 💗
@livb69453 жыл бұрын
"Etiquette is a French word" So is manners. Manières....
@casualfocus13717 жыл бұрын
Were talking about brainwashing here right?
@nsoper197 жыл бұрын
Wonder why children are born so selfish?
@a.mostert8007 жыл бұрын
Because self interest is a healthy and normal attitude to have.
@nsoper197 жыл бұрын
A. Mostert So why do we consider it bad manners when we get older?
@a.mostert8007 жыл бұрын
For the reasons explained in the video. If everyone acted on their innate self interests - or hedonism - it'd be utter chaos.
@pixiniarts7 жыл бұрын
Its why they stay selfish become little shits and grow up to be massive arseholes that's the bigger question... And quite how they frequently find them selves in managerial positions.
@nsoper197 жыл бұрын
I don't understand how it can be considered healthy and normal but also utter chaos?
@Maffoo7 жыл бұрын
Oh my god, what are those names at 6:46? How middle class can you get?
@Karl0sis7 жыл бұрын
I feel like the evolution on manners was much simpler than that. Humans of every strata emulate their aspirational peers, it's what almost all marketing is based on.
@rhuntsinger88992 жыл бұрын
Europe civilized the world. There is no argument and you know it. All of modern life comes from Europe and its child, America. Look around your world - everything was invented and developed by America and Europe.