Behind the Scenes #3 Chandler Limited REDD Microphone

[@EandVEntertainment]

Btw, all of the spoken vocals were through the REDD Microphone in normal mode.

[@SeemoreDunkan]

Dude it's hypnotic listening to you sing opera...:) nice!

[@EandVEntertainment]

Thanks so much!

[@PartTimeGenius]

Thanks for taking the time to do this video. The Neumann sounds like a Neumann. Chandler sounds like a good modern tube mic.

[@EandVEntertainment]

Agreed.

[@BlakeAaronHenderson]

Wonderful voice, sir! Thank you for taking the time. I preferred the U87 on the crooning sample but the REDD on the operatic sample.

[@EandVEntertainment]

blake Henderson thanks so much. I think either was a toss up. The REDD was a really nice mic to get to play around with.

[@HarvinderSingh-yy8th]

Only U87ai.

[@MixmanD28]

What fabulous singing!! Thank you for demo'ing these magnificent mics with such great music.

[@EandVEntertainment]

Thank you so much! I love this stuff.

[@the-matrix-has-you]

This mic sounds both like ELaM 251 and U47 type with type selection for the price its 2 mic in one! Great Mic from Chandler Limited❤️

[@channeloram]

This is a great demo video, thanks

[@EandVEntertainment]

channelORAM you’re welcome. I’m glad you enjoyed it.

[@alieustiansamateh6401]

Great demo, great mic and great singing of course! Thank you very much for this!

[@EandVEntertainment]

Alieu Stian Samateh thanks!

[@songwritersgunfighters453]

The REDD low contour setting fit the operatic piece the best to my ears

[@EandVEntertainment]

Joey Boswell Low Contour definitely works in that context.

[@RooftopRecording]

Your singing is truly beautiful! The mics were interesting too.

[@EandVEntertainment]

Thank you so much!

[@duaneadam]

Preferred the Chandler on low volume sections but thought it was harder on the ears in the louder parts. Possible the Chandler isn't broken in and the Neumann was? If it opens up on louder passages it would be near perfect. Easy to see why the u87 is so popular though, it never seems to do anything poorly.

[@JimCaputoMusic]

Well done and very thorough. This should certainly be helpful to a lot of people.

[@EandVEntertainment]

Thanks Jim.

[@monkeyxx]

Wow, really interesting results. I love what the U87Ai does. It's just so clear and "basic" sounding but not to any fault. I can see why it's a standard "workhorse" and I want one now. That said, the Chandler just has a way of making the voice sound more big and present, it adds interest to the sound, where the U87 kind of just stays all the way out of the way. Sort of an enhanced version of the truth. So I guess ultimately I preferred the Chandler in this shootout, for that reason.

[@EandVEntertainment]

Thanks Monkey Dangus. I've been playing around with my U87ai a lot lately. It has this transparency and cleanness that really works. It's also a bit of a chameleon and can really change character depending on the preamp you use. The Chandler has a finished sound. It's a little bigger than life. I like it. It's nice.

[@martinjohnbutler]

I jumped around back and forth to get quick comparisons this time, and the Neumann's definitely thinner when you try it that way. That's not necessarily better or worse. I prefer bigger and the like the way a tube handles harder hits in a smoother way. The Chandler almost compresses itself naturally. I love the 87, used it everyday for 15 years but would take the Chandler over it in a minute.

[@ericlarkins]

Wonderful singing, great demo, thanks!!

[@EandVEntertainment]

I’m glad you enjoyed it.

[@rockyAQ04]

The REDD was good. It really worked on the operatic piece. However, my ears perked up every time the U87 started up. There were some beautiful moments where the voice really rang out and gave some expressive and interesting tones. The REDD was more controlled, which could be nice, but it loses some of the magic.

[@LichtrauschBerlin]

what a great voice! Thank you for this.

[@EandVEntertainment]

Thanks so much!

[@jacquesanthony1858]

That Chandler Mic is fire brother

[@EandVEntertainment]

It was certainly a nice mic.

[@iPokerrr]

Fantastic review/test and incredible singing!

[@EandVEntertainment]

Thanks!

[@smith_grind5269]

No contest to my ears. The U87 sounds good, but noticeably thinner, less rich and one dimensional in comparison to the Chandler.

[@shanelandstrom1597]

The REDD 47 without the Low-Contour on sounds best by quite a bit to me, and I mostly just listened with the background music in the mix and it really stands out when listening in the mix, that the REDD no LC is what I'd use for your excellent voice. Not sure what the LC is doing, taking out some low end maybe? The U87 sounded kinda harsh or brash in comparison. The REDD sounds huge, smooth, with some umph in the low end. I'm very interested in the REDD again. This is the first clip i've heard of it and I've looked in the past, but for a long time just couldn't find anything. I'm also interested in the new TG mic. Thanks for this video!

[@ramonfelizjr]

Great video , great information , truly I can understand you touch the key points also beautiful powerful control voice , I will love to see your voice doing a shoot out like this one using : Bock 251 , chandler Redd and telefunken U 47 . Exactly using same method like this video . It will definitely understand what mic is the right for me . Thx 4 your hard work .

[@EandVEntertainment]

Ramon Feliz thanks. I have another review like this coming out shortly. I’ll do a few nice shootouts this summer I think. I have a FleA49 and access to a FleA47. I’m also going to be posting a shootout from a big studio with a bunch of vintage mics. Subscribe to see them when they come out.

[@zip7806]

Thank you. Also, your nice into jazz reviled to me that I need to decouple my monitors :)

[@AaronStrumpel]

oh man - great singing! both of these are incredible. the 87 is just a bit rounder, familiar, and i love that personally - i sing through a flea 48 superfet so of course i dig that darker thing...but that REDD is big city classy and i'd love to get that in the studio at some point. like any creative tool, a different guitar, etc, it would likely guide a performer into some new spaces they haven't sung into.

[@EandVEntertainment]

Aaron Strumpel thanks! Yeah the REDD is really nice with a unique sound. The FleA 48 FET, huh? I just finally picked up a FleA 49. I too like the weightier sound. I haven’t even had a chance to feature it on the channel yet. It may be my favorite microphone for my voice. I had so much luck with my Advanced Audio CM49 and got a chance to work with a FleA 47. The U47 has never really been right on my voice, but after hearing the quality of FleA’s 47 I went out of my way to try their 49 and got hooked. How is the 48 Super FET? I’ve heard good things, but haven’t tried one yet.

[@songwritersgunfighters453]

This is awesome! great review!

[@EandVEntertainment]

Joey Boswell thanks so much.

[@theredcicadas4622]

Amazing singing voice. Thanks so much for the video.

[@EandVEntertainment]

I'm glad you enjoyed it. I hope it helped.

[@theredcicadas4622]

@@EandVEntertainment Definitely! I just ordered a REDD and this video helped tremendously with the decision.

[@EandVEntertainment]

@@theredcicadas4622 that’s awesome. I didn’t end up keeping the REDD, but I have some friends pumping out some great sounding recordings with it.

[@GreenHypnotic]

Great video! REDD for the win!

[@colindayo]

Never mind the mic, what a voice!

[@EandVEntertainment]

Colin Day thank you. 😁

[@colindayo]

Elegant & Vintage Entertainment I just ordered one. Let’s see how it performs on voiceovers.....

[@EandVEntertainment]

Colin Day awesome.

[@protoolstdm7298]

nice the REDD distortion that the fet u-87 doesn´t

[@EandVEntertainment]

Ricky Home Studio *Brasil, I agree. Tube mics do something special to the sound.

[@ytb917]

great vocal demo! thank you for letting us know the chandler mic was used for the narration. is there any way you could do a quick voiceover (non-singing) of the u87 vs. the chandler? the u87 is the top voiceover mic in the world. voiceovers are usually done at a mic distance of about 4-12 inches away from the mic, in a reasonably echo-free environment. i'm guessing the chandler in the narration portion of your video might be further away than that. i've never seen a chandler voiceover demo, and the u87 is sitting right there as the perfect comparison. if you have a few minutes to do a quick comparison, that would be awesome!

[@EandVEntertainment]

I didn't double record the voice over. I just used the Chandler for this video and decided to purchase a FleA 49 instead of the Chandler after doing this demo. There is some U87ai voice over done on my Behind the Scenes #1 Microphone shoot out. I go through each mic in the shoot out and all dialogue is done with the microphone being talked about. You can see that here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iafGopqZZreJla8 In my personal opinion the U87ai and TLM170 are my favorite voice over microphones. They are really neutral in that context and don't add too much flavor. The TLM170 is very warm and neutral while the U87ai adds a little air to the sound. Whenever someone has recorded VO here they are put in the optimal spot in my room where the vocal performance was done and the microphone is about 8-12" from them unless they are doing a "voice of god" kind of VO. The Chandler has a sound it imparts on everything you record with it. It was about 2 ft from me just out of the camera shot for the VO for this, and y control area isn't the best for recording, especially when it was set up like this.

[@richs.820]

@@EandVEntertainment What made you decide to go with the Flea49? I was looking at both of these mics and was trying to find the one that has more of a sony C800G sound character such as brightness and the way it sits in the mix. Thank you for your time to put these videos up and the responses.

[@EandVEntertainment]

@@richs.820 I was looking for an old school sound, sort of a modern Mario Lanza kind of sound. I owned an Advanced Audio CM49 which I featured in a few videos and loved it, so I got my self in front of a couple of real deal M49s as well as U47s and U67s and on my voice the M49s kept giving me that sound I was looking for on most styles that I sing and the U67 seemed to fill in the gaps when the M49 didn't. The FleA 49 is really close to a real deal M49. I was lucky enough to demo a few of them through different retailered before I bought mine. If I had opted to put an AC701K in it I think it would have just sounded like a brand new M49. I tried one with the ac701k and it was incredible sounding. I have never been too interested in the Sony C800G as its not typically a microphone you'll see up on people in the genres I record and I personally tend to prefer warmth to presence in the recordings I make. The Chandler is more like a fat sounding Sony C800G or ELA M251 and if that's the sound you're looking for I would try to get in front of the Chandler. Golden Age Pro just announced their take on the C800G with their first high end microphone the GA-800G. It's still 4k though and I haven't heard clips of it yet. On a budget, if you don't mind the wait, check out Stam Audio's version of it. There are some nice clips of it on KZbin next to the real deal. Stam makes good sounding pieces, but they have a horrible back log and it can take a while to get your gear.

[@dirkchurlish4074]

thank you for the informative and enjoyable demo. i have never liked operatic singing and i was going to skip over that part, no lie. but on the low contour REDD i was smiling! i still don't like opera, but i do like you singing it, especially through that chandler. and i liked the body on the normal REDD setting for the croon vox. never been a fan of U87s. i was set on acquiring a FLEA superfet yesterday, but now i have to consider the REDD mic very seriously. twice the price though :/

[@EandVEntertainment]

Wow thanks. Not sure if you’ve seen it, but I also have a video on the FleA 47 & 49. It’s pretty in depth. I haven’t tried their super FETS yet though.

[@Daviddosi]

9:14 Damn i looked a whill for a microphone that Can Thake powerful highs like that for a long time now. Might have to get this bad boy now 😏 great singing man!

[@EandVEntertainment]

David Dosi thanks!

[@tyoung]

Incredible voice man. Did you have the REDD running into an external mic pre?

[@EandVEntertainment]

Thanks for the compliment. No. For these tests I just used the built in preamp.

[@markwilson1446]

What did do on the Redd chain to handle the mic self noise?

[@EandVEntertainment]

@@markwilson1446 nothing. I didn’t feel the mic was overtly noisy.

[@markwilson1446]

Thank you

[@gilgillis2445]

Excellent voice!

[@EandVEntertainment]

Thanks so much.

[@the-matrix-has-you]

I wonder what is the Mic Pre used for fair comparison?

[@EandVEntertainment]

I believe I posted it in the description. Neumann U87ai was recorded through the on board Apollo preamp. It was then run through the WAVES Abby Road Studios REDD.51 Console Emulation. The Red is using its built in preamp.

[@massimocesareAnnaloro]

BRAVO!

[@EandVEntertainment]

Grazie!

[@dirkchurlish4074]

Did you try that $9k Telefunken U47 reissue? Any impressions of it?

[@EandVEntertainment]

I haven’t. From clips I’ve heard of it I’ve generally preferred the FleA 47, but that’s not the same as having heard it in person. There is a good shootout of the two on the Tube Tests channel. Audio Test Kitchen also has clips of the two for comparison.

[@aaronjohnson1379]

wonderful

[@EandVEntertainment]

Thanks.

[@francocarrieri1988]

Christ you can sing.

[@EandVEntertainment]

Thanks!

[@TheJoecoool]

THANK YOU GREAT JOB 👌

[@EandVEntertainment]

joe kh Thanks! It was a lot of fun.

[@17th_Street_Preacher]

Sometimes less is more..U87;)

[@EandVEntertainment]

I don't disagree. Thanks for commenting.

[@WizardsMachine]

I vote for the REDD on all examples. However I've never been an 87 fan. The upper mids always bother me. Of course it has everything to do with who's singing into it, but 4 out of 5 times, I will shy from the 87. Thanks for the nice vid.

[@EandVEntertainment]

Thanks!

[@kofiassor2164]

Beautiful singing...oh, so music is not doomed after all! Thank God. Any way both are great, but the chandler is better bang for the buck given it is infused with the preamp already at $4,800 compared to the $3,500 Neumann

[@EandVEntertainment]

Thanks!

[@tareq5911]

Can't believe I'm gonna say this, but the u87ai sounded better on the 1st song. The Chandler was a bit muffled, and sounded hotter during louder parts; which is strange given it's supposed to be a slower tube mic. The chandler sounded better on the operatic part.

[@shubhshinde4438]

Hello 👋 can you please recommend me a tube mic under 500 to 600 USD or I should go with the Neumann tlm 102 for all purpose.. please reply thank you 😊

[@EandVEntertainment]

There are a lot of variables in this question. What kind of music are you making?

[@shubhshinde4438]

@@EandVEntertainment bollywood, pop and classical

[@EandVEntertainment]

@@shubhshinde4438 that’s a broad range of different kinds of music. I generally don’t use the same mics for classical as I do for pop. Bollywood can lean either way. I would like for something middle of the road, but in your budget that’s difficult. The TLM 102 might not be a bad choice. I would want some kind of U67 style mic for a tube mic, but there aren’t any in your price range. A U87 style mix might not be a bad choice either, but they are on the modern bright side. For pop the WA251 or Avantone CV12 are good choices. For more classic warmth the WA47 isn’t bad, but isn’t always the right choice.

[@shubhshinde4438]

@@EandVEntertainment well thank you... I think warm audio WA47jr is a good choice 👍

[@CheickMaurice]

Redd is killers

[@flacopico]

I LIKE REDD BEST

[@EandVEntertainment]

Carlos Orduña Palacio cool!

[@CrustPunx]

The room is not muffled, those panels on the wall don't solve anything. And it's not clear what kind of preamplifier is in there. If there is a preamp, it's dead and not plugged in. According to this singer it would sound about the same on a $50 t.bone 450. Why pay more if it won't make much difference anyway?

[@EandVEntertainment]

Sorry for any confusion here. The Chandler was only using its internal preamp as designed, and went into a line in on my Apollo. The U87ai went straight into my Apollo using its preamp without an emulation. I didn't feature any specific one on this video, as I wanted people to hear the mic and not be influenced by the sonic character of a premap. So I used a clean preamp with the U87ai. Yes, those panels weren't the best and have been upgraded since. Still they helped tame a lot of room echo. Also, the styles of music I work in, a slightly live room does better than a completely dead one.

[@richlodato106]

On the operatic vocal the Neumann wins big time. Too much air on top on the Chandler. Pop vocal the Redd wins! MHO.

[@DangerousOne326]

U87ai > Redd. By a mile too. I was kind of shocked.

[@EandVEntertainment]

DangerousOne326 thanks for commenting. It’s funny, I’ve received a lot of different opinions on this video. It always seems to be about personal artistic aesthetics. Personally I think I could release an album made with either of these and not have any one say “it doesn’t sound professional.” The U87ai cuts better, but has less weight and dimension.

[@kanduagbimson2338]

They both sound great, but the u87 gets the nod in my opinion.

[@TheBunkerStudiosAudioPro]

The U87 sounded great but the Redd with low contour mode killed the U87 AI especially in the mix. The U87 had a hollow quality that some might call clarity. I own the redd and it is fantastic. The U87 is great as well. There was just too big of a difference in the mix with the low contour mode. The Redd was commanding! I still love my Neumann but prefer U87 Classic over AI. Great voice and lived the operatic! Thats where the red really kicked in for me.::: 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 for the video.

[@EandVEntertainment]

Thanks!

[@francois936]

I'm shocked that I liked U87 every time which I should not like. I got moved emotionally by U87 though REDD didn't... REDD catch nice highend but less emotionally good mid range.

[@EandVEntertainment]

I don’t disagree with you. Both Emily and I preferred the U87ai we owned and the FleA 49 we had tried a week or two before. The Neumann style mics do something special that sound “like a record.” At the same time I’ve heard so,e fantastic recordings made with the REDD. So I guess it was just something about how it captured my voice.

[@Zhadou]

The u 87 sounds so dull 😂

[@EandVEntertainment]

@@Zhadou neutral is probably a more accurate description, but yeah. Tubes do something beautiful in microphones.

[@hotelink8954]

I want

[@EandVEntertainment]

It's nice!

[@vvonderpage]

87

[@909elle]

no wonder the u 87 is the standard ,nothing wrong with redd ,i is very good too ,but ...

[@fullalbums5675]

Chandler is sibilant and bright, sounds like a MXL microphone, amazing what marketing can do though

[@EandVEntertainment]

I'm not sure what you're listening to this through, but that's not what I hear at all.

[@fullalbums5675]

I listen through PMC IB1S with BURL dac, and you? Maybe you should upgrade your monitoring before buying new mic.

[@EandVEntertainment]

Nothing that crazy. Event 20/20s from an Apollo. Well, I guess one mans present is another mans bright, and one mans warm is another mans dark.

[@martinjohnbutler]

Elegant & V, listen to this, see if you still think it sounds like an MXL. I've used most high end vintage mics before, and the REDD hangs with them, an MXL is a joke in comparison, sorry to say. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qWOcZGqcaNmAe9U&lc=z22dglfiakvlthzkbacdp435sf1zqnyjzgehj0ndjmdw03c010c&feature=em-comments

[@jonathanmera3084]

Gotta jump in here and say i dont hear the sibilant nor bright sound. I think the chandler redd sounds present in a pleasant way. Simply an awesome mic. If anything the Nuemann TLM 103 would be sort of the bright sound, non the less it's a good mic as well.

[@gaboonschoolofmusic9848]

your voice is not working sorry ......needed a diffrent singer

[@EandVEntertainment]

Ha ha. Can’t help you there it’s my channel. I’m not sure what you mean that my voice is not working, but I understand if the video doesn’t feature what you need for your own music. I do think that the RED was not my favorite mic on my voice.